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tctrills:
Top 10 food exporting countries are, The US, Netherlands, Brazil, Germany, China, France, Spain, Canada, Italy, Belgium.

Agriculture is not up to 10% on any of their GDPs.
So what exactly is your point?
Please educate yourself on the issue. We don't need Agriculture to be 20% of GDP before we become a food export giant.

In Nigeria, agriculture used to be our major source of income hence Nigeria is one of the few countries where food items are cheap.

Declining in Agriculture % means we are producing less hence the ridiculous high price of food items

Easy this time

Our 20+ % Agricultural GDP revenue is still what makes food items to be so cheap compared to those countries you listed

helinues:
Easy this time

Our 20+ % Agricultural GDP revenue is still what makes food items to be so cheap compared to those countries you listed

Wrong again. There is no correlation between the two. Food is always cheaper in the poorer countries and in countries with highest percentage of hungry people

tctrills:
Wrong again. There is no correlation between the two. Food is always cheaper in the poorer countries and in countries with highest percentage of hungry people

The more food you produce, the cheaper the price of food.

Basic economic studies.

helinues:
Easy this time

Our 20+ % Agricultural GDP revenue is still what makes food items to be so cheap compared to those countries you listed

Here is a second comment to help you think differently.
The question you should be asking is,
Why is Belgium, a country smaller that Oyo state and with Agriculture less than 1% of it's GDP exporting much more food than Nigeria.
If you can solve this, then you have solved your problem.

helinues:
The more food you produce, the cheaper the price of food.

Basic economic studies.

Then why is food cheaper in Nigeria than in US?
The countries with the cheapest food are some of the countries with the lowest Agricultural production
1. Afghanistan
2. Kyrgyzstan
3. Algeria
4. Syria
5. Nepal

Lindlady:
And after that you started shouting ebin pawa o

Hahahahahahaha
TKO

tctrills:
Here is a second comment to help you think differently.
The question you should be asking is,
Why is Belgium, a country smaller that Oyo state and with Agriculture less than 1% of it's GDP exporting much more food than Nigeria.
If you can solve this, then you have solved your problem.

You don give zombie assignment
We wait for answers but I doubt any reasonable response

lexy2014:
Why should he not compare Nigeria to qatar?

Is it because of taxes that Nigeria is not doing well?

The taxes that have collected so far, what has been done with them?

Is it my governor that made the post I responded to?

The person you responded to, is he the person that collected the tax money that you are asking him to explain what your government did with it?

ozo13:
something that should have been a good topic for the youth to discuss una don turn am to politics again.isokay

They hardly think since the day their messiah lost

blacknp:
The person you responded to, is he the person that collected the tax money that you are asking him to explain what your government did with it?

Why should he not compare Nigeria to qatar?

Is it because of taxes that Nigeria is not doing well?

The taxes that have collected so far, what has been done with them?

Is it my governor that made the post I responded to?

if he is not the one that collected the tax money, why is he complaining about whether people pay taxes or not?

CrossRhodes:
You don give zombie assignment
We wait for answers but I doubt any reasonable response

I believe helinues is beginning to do some reading and research now. Sometimes we need to open these people's eyes.

helinues:
Meaning agriculture have been declining hence the high rise of prices of food items .

Why should things we don't import like yams, garri be selling at ridiculous prices?

fulani herdsmen drove people away from their farms

Let me do a break down from what i told byva norther farmer.

Majority of our farms grow cash crops. The few that grows food items prefer to sell it to neighbouring countries, most of them Nigerians (foreign exchange) because it brings higher profit.

Now the neigbouring countries (mostly Nigerians) sell it back to Nigeria they add all the custom duties + transportation and they will still make their own profit again o, hence making it terribly expensive.

Corruption at the MAX



quote author=helinues post=130375771]Meaning agriculture have been declining hence the high rise of prices of food items .

Why should things we don't import like yams, garri be selling at ridiculous prices?[/quote]

If Agriculture is huge like this, then why is food so expensive?

Lindlady:
Do you have any farm? What do you do for a living?

What the meaning of this useless question?

How many people are farmers in developed world?

Just asking the government to protect the farmers in Nigeria from bandits and security men extortion as the transport their goods for sale is now an issue for you.

Useless block head people everywhere in Nigeria and no wonder Nigeria is jaga jaga.

Thank your God that we are the one controlling the economy of your country otherwise people like you would have been dead and buried.

BlowYourMind:
Tinubu singlehandedly defeated bitter grieving obi,

moneyissweet:
Thank your God that we are the one controlling the economy of your country otherwise people like you would have been dead and buried.

Hehehehehehehe is that why your people are committing suicide, being killed, and selling their babies to feed themselves?

Globad:
Which countries are doing well without taxing their citizens and how are they funding their budgets?

Don't forget that income tax is not the only form of tax in a country. Also, don't compare Nigeria to a country like Qatar.

why taxation is important, in Nigeria's case you can't guarantee that massive taxation would make any difference in the citizen's lives, btw taxation should be to maintain what you have, what do we have as a nation, let the govt first build better healthcare, schools and all round general better society, then you tax the people to maintain that.

BluntCrazeMan:
My brother,, the data is not there.

The data you are requesting if not there should also be a function of the NBS, the nation's bureau of statistics.

It is not a question of scaling the tax net, infact that is the easiest thing to do but because the country has a habit is squandering and actively encourages this by its inactions, lack of will to make policy in that direction, witch-hunting for the sake of it, ethnicity or blind loyalty, instead of prioritizing and making transparent every movement of funds, and delivering consequences on time for erring action and enforcing a system which adequately rewards the fulfilment of KPIs and expedition of related legal and judicial processes, and also following up on the facility/infrastructural maintenance cycle (they always tend to stop at project end cycle) even though the project costing and evaluation of the qualifying bid may have included the maintenance cycle for a minimum number of period service delivery... Talking about the facility management cycle portion, I have not see a wide spread network of infrastructure marshals work whether in the police, military police or civil defense operatives to prevent realtime vandalism and destruction of property, instead they priotize redundant and needless work functions and following politicians about. Just this morning, a thieving person attempted to steal cables from a transformer located around the vicinity of the international airport, now where were the marshalls or surveillance structure to make sure that I did not happen in the first place or provide a record to go after the erring entity post-incident?


Simply put they are not output centric, because if they were, I assure you even your opinion would be inadequate in comparison to the solution-centric filters they will put in place to make sure things work. When, enough Nigerians wake up, the place will be to hot to tolerate deliberate wastage of time, human and material resources.

It is a systems problem.

Even the remission processes in some spheres may contain loopholes known to parties who feel they are greater than the law and the rest of the land by cornering a good chunk for private use. If you have ever been to for example Oshodi, one of the biggest LCDA in Lagos, any sensible person can easily estimate the amount of tax remission possible with the existing methods meanwhile its use is not seen because, the roads are bad and don't get repaired until it has cost the state(not even LCDA because the effects are cascading) billions in losses over and over again.

The Nigerian community, private, public or even legal does not often enforce and insist accountability from projects monitoring units of their state governments so that every bid winner defends project delivery against funds release for said projects so that every movement of fund is tracked and adequately and correctly released. When they do, the probing, tribunal, dispute resolution or judicial processes frustrates the solution and participants take advantage of the processes to extract as much funds as possible not paying attention to the end result and adequate and speedy delivery of judgement.

Haven't even mentioned "double taxation" and how they let all manner of "illegal taxation" thrive, from street urchins, to unknown gun men, bandits and terrorists and even from law enforcement. No adequate identifiers to let all parties know when a certain tax is illegal or not, deliberate opacity and high handedness to coerce their victims to comply. smh

alternative source for tax info:
https://nigerianstat.gov.ng/elibrary

Lindlady:
Do you have any farm? What do you do for a living?

I really appreciate the north. Agriculture was the mainstay of Nigeria economy until discovering of oil. Still agriculture is still leading. Over the years if successive government and even state government from Southern Nigeria has taken agriculture serious, Nigeria could have been feeding some part of the world now. They have been contributing to the economy and yet some people will be saying they don't contribute nothing. Can we survive without food.

BluntCrazeMan:
**((Meanwhile,, why didn't I see the Oil-&-Gas sector.?? Was it deliberately avoided.?? Or is it that the Oil-&-Gas sector is not really a major contributor to the economy.??))

Agriculture contribute over 40% to the GDP. That means, the North contribute over 40% to the GDP via Agriculture alone. Oil contribute less than 30% to the GDP.

BluntCrazeMan:
This trend only shows that by 2033, ICT-Sector would become the largest contributor to the Nigerian Economy by far.

**((Meanwhile,, why didn't I see the Oil-&-Gas sector.?? Was it deliberately avoided.?? Or is it that the Oil-&-Gas sector is not really a major contributor to the economy.??))

PDP government was into trading and ict

Lindlady:
Ebola Tinubu has destroyed Nigeria beyond redemption.

Th.nder fire your obirodent miscreant mouth

helinues:
Meaning agriculture have been declining hence the high rise of prices of food items .

Why should things we don't import like yams, garri be selling at ridiculous prices?

Agriculture has been declining because several irredeemable zombiés in Nigeria keep praising and voting in APC government that has failed woefully to tackle insecurity and ensure security of lives of farmers and farmlands.

You're one of those praising and voting APC government in Nigeria.

Globad:
Which countries are doing well without taxing their citizens and how are they funding their budgets?

Don't forget that income tax is not the only form of tax in a country. Also, don't compare Nigeria to a country like Qatar.

So give tax to corrupt selfish politicians and government officials ?

What have they done with the oil money? Do we have stable electricity and basic infrastructure?

Tax collection is for developed countries and even in those countries it is proportional to the income. The poor people in developed countries pay no taxes. They get more benefits.

Meanwhile,, why didn't I see the Oil-&-Gas sector.?? Was it deliberately avoided.?? Or is it that the Oil-&-Gas sector is not really a major contributor to the economy.??

😆 🤣 😂 Oiye n Gas money only exist in our mind.
Money wey dem don share finish, same way dem share those Oil well..
Abeg which account NNPC dey remit money into.
Under buhari NNPC no remit shi shi.
All I know be say life and death na siamese twin, you no fit separate them.
Only God be the Supreme judge

Lindlady:
And after that you started shouting ebin pawa o

You better go find work and stop trolling people here .. you just wasting away

Lindlady:
Ebola Tinubu has destroyed Nigeria beyond redemption.

In what way as regards the numbers presented?

Agriculture's contribution is simply too large.

The larger your agriculture share of the economy, the lower your per capita income. Most advanced economies have the sector only contribute less than 5% of GDP.

Would you imagine Buhari wanted agriculture to account for 90% of GDP! Nigerias per capita income would be a third that of Niger Republic.

Ochyes:
Many Nigerians are facing hard times, you wanna increase it??

The current amount being paid as “Tax” in Nigeria is not amongst the first-twenty of the major problems in Nigeria..
But I can tell you that the current methods of taxing is amongst the first-ten problems in Nigeria.
We need to set our priorities right in this country.

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LandMann:
You have been conditioned like in Pavlov's dog and bell experiment to believe that more taxes is what the government needs to solve Nigeria's problem.

But what you don't know is that tax is an easy way for government to be extremely lazy and unproductive.

Also, tax discourages productivity.

There are countries doing well without taxing their citizens

Stop giving the corrupt and useless government in Nigeria ammunition to kill the people

It's like you misunderstood my point..

Efficient Taxing Systems is what I am talking about.. Not increasing the Tax..

Please go back and read my submission again.
Thanks.

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antiMuhamad:
Are you dreaming or what? Nigerians pay income tax. I am very sure of that. pay as you earn is one of them that is heavily imposed even on private workers. Go do your research again abeg no come dey yarn nonsense here.

I would need you to give me the percentages of the Nigerian employees and that of the business-owners who consistently pay their income taxes in Nigeria..

Just two percentages alone are all I need here.
One for the Nigerian Employees (both public and private);
And the other for the Nigerian Business Owners.

If you paid attention,, I'm talking about accurate robust data here, and not whether there are people who are paying or not..

What percentage of all the supermarket employees in Nigeria are paying their taxes?

What percentage of all the shop attendants in Nigeria are paying their taxes??

Do These Businessmen who own long threads-and-chains of shops pay their taxes?

One thing you should know is that...
“There is no robust/all-encompassing tax database in Nigeria”

If not,, why could someone buy a Bentley Vehicle in Nigeria, (and even had the tax duly deducted),, and yet the TIN of the person who bought the vehicle and paid the Tax was not captured??
((Not to talk of the TIN of the seller being captured too.. Thus, the government can never get to know WHO bought WHAT - and then, when, where, and how..))

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lexy2014:
All the income and sundry taxes that have been paid so far, what has been done with them?

Is it because government does have data to track the amount of money in the system according to you that economy is in shambles?

What is the benefit of all this data you are talking about?

One thing you should know is this:
“Accurate data helps both the people and the government to properly track how much Tax that were collected, and how the money was used by the government.”

With Accurate Data, the government will always be on their toes, so as to always do their best in order to be better than their past records.
But where there is no data,, there won't be “PAST RECORDS” to be compared with..

SO, WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU SAYING.??

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opeldavid:
Shut up.

Dullards Are EVERYWHERE.!!

And you are one if them..

BluntCrazeMan:
The current amount being paid as “Tax” in Nigeria is not amongst the first-twenty of the major problems in Nigeria..
But I can tell you that the current methods of taxing is amongst the first-ten problems in Nigeria.
We need to set our priorities right in this country.

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It's like you misunderstood my point..

Efficient Taxing Systems is what I am talking about.. Not increasing the Tax..

Please go back and read my submission again.
Thanks.

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I would need you to give me the percentages of the Nigerian employees and that of the business-owners who consistently pay their income taxes in Nigeria..

Just two percentages alone are all I need here.
One for the Nigerian Employees (both public and private);
And the other for the Nigerian Business Owners.

If you paid attention,, I'm talking about accurate robust data here, and not whether there are people who are paying or not..

What percentage of all the supermarket employees in Nigeria are paying their taxes?

What percentage of all the shop attendants in Nigeria are paying their taxes??

Do These Businessmen who own long threads-and-chains of shops pay their taxes?

One thing you should know is that...
“There is no robust/all-encompassing tax database in Nigeria”

If not,, why could someone buy a Bentley Vehicle in Nigeria, (and even had the tax duly deducted),, and yet the TIN of the person who bought the vehicle and paid the Tax was not captured??
((Not to talk of the TIN of the seller being captured too.. Thus, the government can never get to know WHO bought WHAT - and then, when, where, and how..))

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One thing you should know is this:
“Accurate data helps both the people and the government to properly track how much Tax that were collected, and how the money was used by the government.”

With Accurate Data, the government will always be on their toes, so as to always do their best in order to be better than their past records.
But where there is no data,, there won't be “PAST RECORDS” to be compared with..

SO, WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU SAYING.??

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Dullards Are EVERYWHERE.!!

And you are one if them..

you didnt answer my questions.

1. All the income and sundry taxes that have been paid so far, what has been done with them?

2. Is it because government does have data to track the amount of money in the system according to you that economy is in shambles?

3. What is the benefit of all this data you are talking about?

lexy2014:
you didnt answer my questions.

1. All the income and sundry taxes that have been paid so far, what has been done with them?

They were squandered and embezzled (even by the third-party collectors of the taxes) because there is no accurate data to track the Taxes from the Source to their various destinations.

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2. Is it because government does have data to track the amount of money in the system according to you that economy is in shambles?

YESS..
The amount of leakages in the economy accounts for up to 56% losses Year-On-Year.
((This is the reason some people would always say “the economy is bleeding”.. It means that lots of leakages into private pockets are happening, and they were not even noticed.

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3. What is the benefit of all this data you are talking about?

Read the responses I have given above.

You can now choose to rephrase your No-3 question if you're not still not satisfied.