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TenQ:
Expanse2020


I am still waiting for you

Focus on the highlights in Yellow in the hadith.
1. Did Allah change his shape or not?
2. Did he take permission from you Muslims to change his shape?
3. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
4. Is Allah entering into his creation?


Are any of these untrue?

TenQ:
This is not the question:

Does Allah have the power to enter his creation without ceasing to be God?

It's a simple question!

TenQ:
See how you avoided answering my questions after I answered Allah yours.

It's a big deal that Jesus didn't have a human Father except you can state exactly what Allah was trying to achieve! So tell me for Adam that doesn't have a parent is that not the most big deal.....
Atleast Jesus had mother to cater for him as a toddler .. what Adam who was just be a man from the beginning Abegii let me hear word
If you can't, then you have no case!

Did Elijah go to heaven according to Islamic doctrines? Yes Elias (A.S.)is a prophet in Islam and he went to the heaven and not only him, Idris(A.S) went to heaven and prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) went up and come down too so tell me the big deal...

Even if he did, that is not the issue except you can find anyone else who has a combination of unique miracles all accumulated in a single person.
According to Islam
1. Jesus alone had a mother without a Father so in the bible who is father of Jesus; Joseph or David,🤣🤣🤣🤣
2. Jesus alone is a co-creator of Life with Allah
Jesus not co creator unless you put it as your taught ... So in the bible Jesus call himself co creator of life abii
During the time of Moses in the Egypt when he went to a seclusion place to fast for 40days... The children of Israel were seen worshipping a bull which of the sorcerer have put with sand and told them to be bowing to before Moses come back..so what is the big deal on that
You have never see a magician summon a life beautiful bird from ordinary birọ, handkerchief.. so what did it do that no one have ever done
3. Jesus is the only one one who Allah took to himself (above the seventh heaven) show me in the bible where there is 7th heaven in the bible and if there is nothing like that prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) reach the 7th heaven but meet Jesus in 3rd heaven so Jesus was not in 7th heaven.

4. Jesus is the only one who went bodily to heaven without passing through death. Is a lie did Elijah die before going to heaven

5. Jesus is the only spirit of Allah and the only word of Allah ehen he is not a spirit of Allah rather he is a spirit among spirit from Allah

6. Jesus is the only one who spoke as a baby (meaning that he wasn't truly a baby) did he speak as a baby in the bible please show me


Just find me any human being that has one quarter of this characteristics.



Unfortunately, you refused to answer my questions for the same questions you asked me. I have answer it already


Is it because, they don't have any answer in Islam?

Expanse2020:
I have answer your questions

Expanse2020:
Allah have the power to do anything
so tell his creation is not a problem but it will not because he doesn't need it when he can easily do anything from up..he didn't need to enter any creation to come down.. Allah is not limitless like another God...wick Gods

Expanse2020:
According to Islam
1. Jesus alone had a mother without a Father so in the bible who is father of Jesus; Joseph or David,🤣🤣🤣🤣

Expanse2020:
2. Jesus alone is a co-creator of Life with Allah
Jesus not co creator unless you put it as your taught ... So in the bible Jesus call himself co creator of life abii

Expanse2020:
During the time of Moses in the Egypt when he went to a seclusion place to fast for 40days... The children of Israel were seen worshipping a bull which of the sorcerer have put with sand and told them to be bowing to before Moses come back..so what is the big deal on that
You have never see a magician summon a life beautiful bird from ordinary birọ, handkerchief.. so what did it do that no one have ever done

Expanse2020:
3. Jesus is the only one one who Allah took to himself (above the seventh heaven) show me in the bible where there is 7th heaven in the bible and if there is nothing like that prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) reach the 7th heaven but meet Jesus in 3rd heaven so Jesus was not in 7th heaven.

Expanse2020:
4. Jesus is the only one who went bodily to heaven without passing through death. Is a lie did Elijah die before going to heaven

Expanse2020:
5. Jesus is the only spirit of Allah and the only word of Allah ehen he is not a spirit of Allah rather he is a spirit among spirit from Allah

Expanse2020:
6. Jesus is the only one who spoke as a baby (meaning that he wasn't truly a baby) did he speak as a baby in the bible please show me

TenQ:
God is the Father of Jesus in the Bible.
But Jesus is also a descendant of David through Mary


Allah gave a challenge.
Quran 22:73
O humanity! A lesson is set forth, so listen to it ˹carefully˺: those ˹idols˺ you invoke besides Allah can never create ˹so much as˺ a fly, even if they ˹all˺ were to come together for that. And if a fly were to snatch anything away from them, they cannot ˹even˺ retrieve it from the fly. How powerless are those who invoke and those invoked!
Is this untrue?

Jesus crated a bird in the Quran as attested by Allah
Quran 3:49
and ˹make him˺ a messenger to the Children of Israel ˹to proclaim,˺ ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make for you a bird from clay, breathe into it, and it will become a ˹real˺ bird—by Allah’s Will. I will heal the blind and the leper and raise the dead to life—by Allah’s Will. And I will prophesize what you eat and store in your houses. Surely in this is a sign for you if you ˹truly˺ believe.
Are you blind to see that he did all this by Allah's will../b]



From which Maudu hadith did you find this?
I am sure that you don't even realize that if this is true, then Allah is false.
If this is true, Quran 22:73 is false.
🤣🤣Maudu hadith ko Mad nii
What do you say?


Are you denying your religion?
Where is Allah, is he below the 7th heaven or above the 7th heaven[b]? You can lie to urself
Did Allah not say that he took Jesus to himself?
Allah took Jesus to heaven but not the 7th heaven
because was in third heaven

There is no cock and bull story like this in the Bible. Ehen just like Jesus is God but also son of marry and marry giving birth to God, but Jesus also servant, messanger of God Abi himself 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣



Are you faulting the claim of Islam?
How did Allah take Jesus up to himself?


Can you then explain why your prophet called Jesus
1. Ruhullah and
2. Kalimatullah
(Sura 3:45, 4;171)
If you open your eyes what was there is the Spirit from God and not only him is spirit from God

Can you tell us what they mean?
Muslims can tell lies for Africa!


Is it a lie that Jesus spoke as a baby in the Quran? No but did he speak as baby in the bible too🤣🤣🤣

The Bible doesn't have such cock and bull stories!... Just like the God is looking for Adam in the garden while Adam hide from God and the are playing hide and seek🤣🤣🤣

Just find me any human being that has one quarter of this characteristics.
Of the characteristic of God that was capture according to the bible by a mere men🤣🤣🤣 or a characteristic of a man shivering on the cross crying like a baby on the cross

Unfortunately, you refused to answer my questions for the same questions you asked me. I have answer it already
Is it because, they don't have any answer in Islam? I have already all your questions...

TenQ:
Are you sure Allah can enter his creation!?

If he enters his creation, will he carry his throne along or his throne will be vacant?

You very well know that Allah is limited.
Would you Muslims see Allah on the judgment day?
If you will, then Allah is limited.

The Sun is big, but because we can see it, the sun is limited. So is Allah!

Expanse2020:
A God who was poor that wear only a robe through out his life but given wealth to human..does it make sense🤣🤣🤣🤣

TenQ:
Does your God need rich clothe to be rich?

The Christ who could bring money out of the mouth of a fish is not who you think!

The Messiah who multiplied five loves of
bread and two fishes is not who you think

Phil 2:7
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Does your God need to dress big to be himself?

Expanse2020:
Ehen Jesus take money from fish mouth ehen

And also share the boos make everybody shayo🤣🤣🤣🤣

Expanse2020:
Can you hear yourself out
The Sun is big, but because we can see it, the sun is limited. So is Allah!
🤣🤣🤣🤣But you should try go to the orbit to see how the sun is big and hugged it for a sec..

Why did you reason like a kid.
Allah is not limited like those God kill by Jews and Roman.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

TenQ:
Anything that can be seen is finite in size: don't you know this?

If you can see it at a location, it can not be anywhere else thus finite.
Allah is very finite sir!

TenQ:
You are confused that its not in the Quran!

Why does Allah need 8 Angels to carry him!

Expanse2020:
Jesus share boos from bible naw, shey u de wine nii...
Why does Allah need 8 Angels to carry him!

This is a stupid question coming out from stupid mouth nawẹ. Na today the dem they carry king inside palanquin talkless of the KING OF KINGS...

TenQ:
Are you saying that it is untrue that the throne of Allah is carried by eight Angels?

Expanse2020:
But Jesus or God is finite too right

Expanse2020:
Can you read the message I sent to you back🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ọmọ i sorry for the way you assimilate and think in that faculty of your head oooo
Chaiiiii

TenQ:
God by His Spirit is Infinite.
Everything seen and unseen exist in Him!
Acts 17:28
‘For in Him (God) we live and move and have our being.’


Allah cannot be over the 7th heaven and below the heavens at the same time, can he?
This is why he is limited.(Use your brain to think) He controls everything in this earth from heaven or have you seen your God before did he appear to you and give you money 🤣🤣🤣

Allah cannot enter his creation without ceasing to be God! He doesn't need to enter a being form before he did his work.... Your God thàt enter a human form become powerless, limited and was killed like a rat from his creation don't you find it absord!

Expanse2020:
You see you are olodo
Allah didn't need to enter any of his creation before he control the beings.. he only have to command and everything follow the order
Be it and it's be ...
He is nearer to us than our Jugular vein
✌️

TenQ:
He is unable to enter into his creation!
QED!

It's not about needing to, it is about ability to do!

Sorry!

Expanse2020:
When I can control dog from wherever I am, did I need to touch it to control it or enter it to control it... please try to think and stop reason like a kid ..
Your God wey enter human body was nail to a plank by his claimed creation to bad

TenQ:
God is called the Almighty for one reason, there is NOTHING impossible for him.

I have shown you that Allah is not Omniscient
I have shown you that Allah is not Omnipotent
I have shown you that Allah is not Omnipresent

Exactly like Iblis.

Can your Allah be above and below the heavens at the same time?
You know the answer: It is a big NO!

Sorry.

Please go sleep!

Expanse2020:
So it's true that you acknowledge that Jesus is limited and that why they capture, torture him and nail him to plank..
Thanks I have deduce what I want to know from your comment
✌️

SIRTee15:
Unfortunately muhammed copied some old testament verses in the bible and put them inside koran without understanding the context of those biblical verses.
That's how Islam became an eternal violent religion while Christianity and Judaism has moved away from the old testament laws.

AntiChristian:
Which verse be that?
And do you have proof that verse reached Arabia during the Prophet's time?

SIRTee15:
There were Christians in Najran during the time of Muhammed.
Waraka, khadijah's uncle is well versed with the scriptures and was even translating the injil to Arabic.
Muhammed used to travel to Syria for trade, there were lots of Christians in Syria at that time.

Torah had an Arabic name- tawrat. If the Torah hadn't reach the Arabic peninsula, how come Muhammed knew what's called taurat.

There were 3 Bani Israelites tribe in Medina during the time of Muhammed and they surely had the Torah.

AntiChristian:
This is not proof he copied from any scripture! When did he meet Warakah? How many times?
And when he traveled to Syria was he listening to the Bible as you have it today?

AntiChristian:
Revelation brought it. What Torah did they have? The Book of Genesis, Deuteronomy, Numbers, Leviticus, Exodus, etc. right?

SIRTee15:
Waraka having the injil proved Muhammed grew up very much aware of the Jewish and Christian scriptures.

The Syrian Christians had the Peshitta bible which was written in Aramaic. The bible was already circulating as far as 4th century.

That's how U Muslims expose your ignorance.
The dead sea scrolls written in 250 BC- 850 yrs b4 Muhammed included the Torah which included genesis, exodus, Leviticus, numbers and Deuteronomy.
The Torah was in scrolls and included the Pentateuch.

U guys better go and read about biblical textual history. Muhammed is about to be exposed as a fraud. Just watch out!!!

AntiChristian:
And you think that Injeel is the Book of Matthew to Revelations right?

AntiChristian:
Which translation of the Bible was circulated in the Peshita? And how did Muhammad understand the language? Give us the full gist as it happened in old school Arabia 1500 years ago!

AntiChristian:
Dead Sea scroll is dated around 200BC - AD 68!

And the biblical manuscripts of its content are useful to my case! FIXED

Here are some of the extra biblical books found among the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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1. Serekh ha-Yahad or Community Rule
2. The Damascus Document
3. Sefer ha-Milhamah, Rule of War
4. The Book of Mysteries
5. Ben Sira (Wisdom of Ben Sira, Sirach, or Ecclesiasticus)
6. The Book of Tobit
7.Enoch
8. Jubilees
9. Book of Noah
10.Testament of Levi
11.Testament of Naphtali
12. Sayings of Moses
13. Genesis Apocryphon
14. Prayer of Nabonidus

Are all these part of what you call the Old testament? If you can remove one then all is faulty!

Na these you claim Muhammad copy?

SIRTee15:
According to your hadith, waraka had the injil...yes or No.
Ask your hadith which of the book Waraka was translating to Arabic with the help of Allah.
Ignorant Muslims all over the place.
You better don't start digging about the Muslims imaginary 'true injil' or I will bury you n dislocate your faith.

I said Peshitta is the Aramaic translation of the Hebrew OT and koine Greek NT bible. Are U dumb or what?
When Muhammed travels to Syria for trade n business, how does he communicate with the Syriac people? Sign language

Thank God u were honest enough to say some of the books in the dead sea scrolls. Here is a non exhaustive list of books found in the dead sea scrolls that includes the PENTATEUCH