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Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by yommen: 10:27am On Jun 10, 2024
jmoore:
No mention of prepaid meter for all customers. The crux of the matter is that most Nigerians are paying for darkness.
For darkness? Yet many of you were crying over shutdown of national grid last week.
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by SoNature(m): 10:27am On Jun 10, 2024
happney65:
When will states start generating,transmitting and distributing it's own power and fixing prices good enough for the distribution companies and also for the customers

That is what I want to know not all the story written above
It's a work in progress because many states are already taking steps to achieve that. We have seen on Nairaland that Ekiti, Oyo and Imo States have already launched their state power regulatory commissions.

The major issue here is that power is capital intensive. That's why many states will end up buying from those that have it in excess. This national grid thing is no longer working.
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by lexy2014: 10:27am On Jun 10, 2024
happney65:
You are just complaining like the average Nigerian who likes complaining endlessly. Our argument before was for the sector to experience real privatizion like that of telecoms. Now it has been done by Buhari telling states they can start generating and the likes.

Whether we like it or not,It is a step in the real direction. Things won't change overnight and there are states that have already started the process. That is what I'm saying.

Saying Govornors are so dull they can't do this and that is what I don't understand. Most of the roads you pass through,are done by the state government. I don't know where you're talking from,but in the past 10years state government have being more responsible than the past.

Can they do better? Of course Yes. Do we have Govornors that are nonesense? Of course Yes

But we have better and responsible Govornors nowadays than the past

P.S Nigeria is a developing country and you don't expect things to change overnight but it's a process and development is doing better at the state level than the past
who are the "we" that had any argument about any sector experiencing "real privatisation"?

you still have not answered my questions:

do you think investors is a magic wand?

is that how things are done?

which investors have any of the 36 state governors brought so far?

like I asked, if governors are so dull to the point that they cant provide things as basic as good education, good health, good roads, water, jobs and other social services, how then are you expecting them to "start generating, transmitting and distributing it's own power and fixing prices good enough for the distribution companies and also for the customers"?
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by jmoore(m): 10:33am On Jun 10, 2024
yommen:
For darkness? Yet many of you were crying over shutdown of national grid last week.
Do you need to be lectured that 5,000 megawatts is not enough for 200 million people?

If you believe that MAJORITY are benefiting from paltry 5,000 megawatts, then you know absolutely nothing about power.
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by SirLakes: 10:35am On Jun 10, 2024
As it is going, e be like say I will join the "na mumu dey pay for electricity geng oooo " grin


This people no know say to bypass meter no hard ni grin
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by WizardOfNG:
happney65:
When will states start generating,transmitting and distributing it's own power and fixing prices good enough for the distribution companies and also for the customers

That is what I want to know not all the story written above
When will some of you stop this needless show of ignorance and sadism?

Is is not what you demanded in bold State governments are now trying to provide? Read the article slowly and assimilate what is written to note you have commented ignorantly and out of turn.

If you had read the article as an open-minded and progressive person you will note Governors even address your point about fairness of pricing and power supply (see excerpt below) meaning you should spend more time trying to be an informed, progressive and optimistic critic instead of someone always looking to contribute negativity alone.

Sorry if my words seem harsh but it is because I think some of us, regardless of misrule in the past, can be more useful in the quest to make Nigeria a developed nation by choosing to be active participants of the change process as optimistic, objective, informed and patriotic Nigerians always willing to give positive change a chance.

You call what is written "story" but your ignorant and misguided comments only validate the saying "if you wish to hide something from a black man, hide it in a book".

The one thing any progressive Nigerian will discern from the article is the joyous observation that Governors are now taking full responsibility for power supply and proactively personalised tariff regime to match the peculiarities and needs of their States.

They are now ready to abandon the "one Nigeria" failure most Governors and leaders hid behind since 1999.

We too, the electorate, should then gear up, in our respective States, to be fully ready to hold them to account instead of talking as if all we are good for is to simply be bystanders only available to contribute negative and ignorant comments..


Commenting on winding down electricity subsidies, the NGF said, “Electricity is a commodity and a product that must be paid for by consumers. The states believe that electricity subsidies and other forms of financial interventions in the power sector by the Federal Government over the last 15 years have been inefficient and ineffective so far.

“Rather than improve the quality and reliability of service, electricity subsidies in the sector have been applied to cover inefficient costs and lack of service by Discos, TCN, Gencos and gas producers across the NESI.

“Moreover, the so-called electricity subsidies benefit only customers who are connected to the national grid and enjoy some form of supply reliability. Millions of households, particularly in underserved and unserved communities, pay more than twice the average true cost of on-grid supply.”
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by yesloaded: 10:44am On Jun 10, 2024
Simplecity:
abeg can you give small breakdown on what solar you use and how much it carries and how long it lasts
It all depends on your capability & management

Turn on only what you need

I can't disclose my present setup here so that I will not discourage some people

If you can tell me what you need to power on most times, i can suggest a decent setup for that
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by ruffhandu: 10:59am On Jun 10, 2024
helinues:
They should do on time and also make sure areas are banded to the right band
Oga, please pity Nigerians and stop supporting segregation. Every Nigerian is entitled to constant supply of electricity, and the cost of electricity should be according to usage and the same for everyone
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by patrickcollins: 11:00am On Jun 10, 2024
yesloaded:
If you don't have a prepaid metre, go solar gently

I own a prepaid metre but still run solar because power supply around my place is worst despite several complaints to IBEDC
if they hammer u band A tarriif with your prepaid meter e go enter ur body, here a thousand naira will buy you 4.45 unit of energy which can't carry a household that have refrigerator for a day. Do the maths for a month yet Fg want to pay 62k. Solar is good but out of reach for majority of our country men and women cos of it's high cost
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by captainbangz: 11:12am On Jun 10, 2024
e be like una no understand, removal means increase in state allocation, meaning more money in their pockets.
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by WizardOfNG:
happney65:
You are just complaining like the average Nigerian who likes complaining endlessly. Our argument before was for the sector to experience real privatizion like that of telecoms. Now it has been done by Buhari telling states they can start generating and the likes.

Whether we like it or not,It is a step in the real direction. Things won't change overnight and there are states that have already started the process. That is what I'm saying.

Saying Govornors are so dull they can't do this and that is what I don't understand. Most of the roads you pass through,are done by the state government. I don't know where you're talking from,but in the past 10years state government have being more responsible than the past.

Can they do better? Of course Yes. Do we have Govornors that are nonesense? Of course Yes

But we have better and responsible Govornors nowadays than the past

P.S Nigeria is a developing country and you don't expect things to change overnight but it's a process and development is doing better at the state level than the past
God bless you. Majority of them are just sadists who want Nigeria to fail and must therefore badmouth every posivtive development for our nation.

There are contributory ways to criticise positive development so they qork even more productively and efficiently.

The car, mobil phones, TV and may other sophisticated utility tools of man today were fairly crude things at inception yet had to be improved by positive and progressive thinkers to be what they are today.

Inagine if the sadist of of the past, the equivalent of Nigerian sadists and enemies of progress today, write off many of what we enjoy using today by insisting they were worthless?

The irony is that what we all asked foe befoee some are now doing there best to find fault with and be negative about showing that a lot of Nigerians are just wicked, evil and damaged goods.

The power sector is now fully deregulated. We have asked Governors to be given more autonomy for decades now so they can take charge more and devise unique power solutions for their respective States.

That prayer has come to pass and the moment has arrived with Governors now defiantly accepting the challenge.

The demand of Governors for independence for setting their own tariffs very good as no Governor will have anywhere to hide.

I believe the next 2 years will be spectacularly positive for Nigeria. It is left to optimistic and well-meaning Nigerians to position themselves to benefit from the positive and massive changes we will be seeing across every facet of Nigerian life shortly.

The sadists and enemies of progress can die in frustration.
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by maasoap(m): 11:22am On Jun 10, 2024
AmiableMosquito:
grin

The same states that cannot pay N60,000 Minimum wage.

Okay!!!!!
They're only interested in the money that those DISCOs will be bringing in. That's why they want all the subsidies on electricity go. They're only about making it a cash cow grin grin grin
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by WizardOfNG:
ruffhandu:
Oga, please pity Nigerians and stop supporting segregation. Every Nigerian is entitled to constant supply of electricity, and the cost of electricity should be according to usage and the same for everyone
That is not true and this is a mistake, ignorant of our reality, some of you keep making.

Without belabouring the consideration of how we got here, the reality is that power supply is very expensive and Nigeria can simply not afford 24/7 power supply for every Nigerian even if our national income tripled.

This is because decades of under-investments in the power sector has now left Nigeria with a moribund, highly inadequate and archaic power sector.

One key solution is to increase tariffs and reinvest profit made in enhancing power generation, transmission and distribution till we can scale up enough to reach 24/7 supply eventually.

Because we alll have different power needs and pockets, it is only fair and logical to have higher tariffs for those willing to pay more for more hours of power per day since it is impossible to give all Nigerians 24/7 power supply as many ignorantly believe.

If we do this Judiciously for 5 to 8 years, and Nigeria's economy continues to improve meaning more money to invest in power supply, we will eventually move towards 24/7 power supply for everyone and one uniform tariffs for all Nigerians
for residentials users while businesses will always have to pay more per their far heavier use and the reality they use government-supllied electricity for profit-generation..
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by yesloaded: 11:34am On Jun 10, 2024
patrickcollins:
if they hammer u band A tarriif with your prepaid meter e go enter ur body, here a thousand naira will buy you 4.45 unit of energy which can't carry a household that have refrigerator for a day. Do the maths for a month yet Fg want to pay 62k. Solar is good but out of reach for majority of our country men and women cos of it's high cost
4.45 for 1knaira?

Hmm

This is very serious o
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by Simplecity(m): 11:39am On Jun 10, 2024
yesloaded:
It all depends on your capability & management

Turn on only what you need

I can't disclose my present setup here so that I will not discourage some people

If you can tell me what you need to power on most times, i can suggest a decent setup for that
ok..that nice...
Just basically phones, laptops, tv, mini fridge and a few bulbs
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by WizardOfNG: 11:39am On Jun 10, 2024
maasoap:
They're only interested in the money that those DISCOs will be bringing in. That's why they want all the subsidies on electricity go. They're only about making it a cash cow grin grin grin
Bro reason it. They are signing their own persecution and death warrants if that is their intention.

With every State setting their own tariffs, after subsidy removal, there will be no excuse for States who have set tariff regime, that we believe is predicted on solid feasibility studies, only for them to fail to improve power supply significantly.

To me heavily subsidising power means Nigerians can forget 24/7 power until some miracle makes our nation auddenly and stupendously rich.

Subsidy on power must go. No doubt about that. The only issue is that it should not be too punitive on Nigerians. Subsidy should be reduced gradually and tapered downwards , as power supply improves, till it is zero at the point majority of Nigerians are enjoying 24/7 power.
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by villagereporter(m): 11:49am On Jun 10, 2024
happney65:
It is not the states that will do that themselves. They are to bring in investors into the sector who will do that.

As useless as Buhari was,at least he was able to do this at the very tail end of his administration. It is now up to the states to sign it into law for the process to take place. I know some states already passed theirs into law recently. E.G Oyo.

We hope to see the sector truly privatized with no government burecreacy involved and not the Sakamanje privatizion the GEJ administration did
.

How can states that run to Abuja for monthly allocation generate and distribute electricity that is costlier than road construction. Instead of this fake government to tell us that they are increasing electricity tariffs for all band they are here giving us their trademark; LIES.
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by Pennilessword1: 12:23pm On Jun 10, 2024
I regret being an African
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by alfajohn: 12:24pm On Jun 10, 2024
SocialJustice:
Why is nobody saying anything about the part where Nigeria's population 10x in less than 50 years because government was subsidising everybody.
Thanks for the information obviously osho free got us to where we are now. We are used to free education free health subsidies on power fuel and infrastructure. We were sharing what we didn’t have and the little available was looted by the politicians and elites. Now we are in a debt trap with no solution in sight.
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by JaskanFactor: 12:56pm On Jun 10, 2024
SocialJustice:
Why is nobody saying anything about the part where Nigeria's population 10x in less than 50 years because government was subsidising everybody.
Are you saying the Nigerian government needs to murder Nigerians
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by okeke6969: 12:57pm On Jun 10, 2024
Getting set indeed. Awon were.
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by bixton(m): 1:06pm On Jun 10, 2024
Great100000:
https://punchng.com/states-work-on-total-electricity-subsidy-removal-new-tariff/
States should build their own power generation plants and distribute to consumers ensuring such distribution are put through prepaid meters on each building or structure as the case maybe. Electricity tariifs can be fixed at prices that are reasonable and economical but it should encourage consumers to use light. There is no need for subsidy on such for it will only be an avenue for someone to steal government monies.
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by SocialJustice: 1:09pm On Jun 10, 2024
JaskanFactor:
Are you saying the Nigerian government needs to murder Nigerians
No, I am saying we are the cause of our problems and we are still neck deep in that situation today as people are still having kids they can't care for and ballooning the population beyond what the government can afford.
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by AmiableMosquito: 1:54pm On Jun 10, 2024
maasoap:
They're only interested in the money that those DISCOs will be bringing in. That's why they want all the subsidies on electricity go. They're only about making it a cash cow grin grin grin
grin
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by maasoap(m): 3:15pm On Jun 10, 2024
WizardOfNG:
Bro reason it. They are signing their own persecution and death warrants if that is their intention.

With every State setting their own tariffs, after subsidy removal, there will be no excuse for States who have set tariff regime, that we believe is predicted on solid feasibility studies, only for them to fail to improve power supply significantly.
What are we going to do to them if they take charge of DISCOs, remove all the subsidies but still fail to provide at least 20 hours a day of power supply?

To me heavily subsidising power means Nigerians can forget 24/7 power until some miracle makes our nation auddenly and stupendously rich.

Subsidy on power must go. No doubt about that.
What are the benefits that Nigerians are getting from their Govts at all levels? The politicians that are paying themselves millions of naira every month legitimately and illegitimately! The country is hard as it is, thanks to corruption and clueless successive leaders. Imagine an oil producing nation that can't give fuels at highly subsidised prices to her already impoverished citizens!
We're not stupendously rich but we could budget 180 million for one solar powered streetlight or borehole?
The only issue is that it should not be too punitive on Nigerians. Subsidy should be reduced gradually and tapered downwards , as power supply improves, till it is zero at the point majority of Nigerians are enjoying 24/7 power.
It is already. N1000 now gives me 4 units! Thank God I took advantage of when we were reverted back to Band B and recharged 250units
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by JaskanFactor: 3:38pm On Jun 10, 2024
SocialJustice:
No, I am saying we are the cause of our problems and we are still neck deep in that situation today as people are still having kids they can't care for and ballooning the population beyond what the government can afford.
What if the sensors is wrong, since sensors reading over population now is a death warrant.
Now anybody who wants to genocide a population can accuse them of overpopulation by ,bv moving everybody to the city while the country side is empty, full of bandits who ensure everybody go to city.

Dont wish genocide on your own people cause you think you have an idea what world you live in.
For one thing you probably dont know that all the people in southern Africa that you call overplanted dirty peasants are the Europeans, Israelites, Scottish , French , Dutch you name . The Irish are now called Jamaican , the Cameron's of Scotland are now called Cameroonians .

And there is enough evidence from ancient maps which they dont teach in school to show that its very highly likely that the land mass of the real world is endless just as the sky is endless , and there are more continents beyond the poles polar regions .

That is why google map shows the world ending abruptly at the poles as if we live on a table , but so above so below, the land is endless like the sky.

Dont wish genocide on your people cause of lies from the enemies of your race.

Google the ancient Japanese map showing 118 continents in the world.
And as of 1918 the last black Japanese were being wiped out , Nagasaki in Japan means the land of dark skin people, thats why your enemies call you overpopulated nigger .

Have you counted the sensors yourself to know the result is true..............
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by SocialJustice: 3:51pm On Jun 10, 2024
JaskanFactor:
What if the sensors is wrong, since sensors reading over population now is a death warrant.
Now anybody who wants to genocide a population can accuse them of overpopulation by ,bv moving everybody to the city while the country side is empty, full of bandits who ensure everybody go to city.

Dont wish genocide on your own people cause you think you have an idea what world you live in.
For one thing you probably dont know that all the people in southern Africa that you call overplanted dirty peasants are the Europeans, Israelites, Scottish , French , Dutch you name . The Irish are now called Jamaican , the Cameron's of Scotland are now called Cameroonians .

And there is enough evidence from ancient maps which they dont teach in school to show that its very highly likely that the land mass of the real world is endless just as the sky is endless , and there are more continents beyond the poles polar regions .

That is why google map shows the world ending abruptly at the poles as if we live on a table , but so above so below, the land is endless like the sky.

Dont wish genocide on your people cause of lies from the enemies of your race.

Google the ancient Japanese map showing 118 continents in the world.
And as of 1918 the last black Japanese were being wiped out , Nagasaki in Japan means the land of dark skin people, thats why your enemies call you overpopulated nigger .

Have you counted the sensors yourself to know the result is true..............
Stop typing rubbish, even the blind knows Nigeria population is on a massive increase.
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Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by ambale(m): 4:07pm On Jun 10, 2024
daywatcher:
because it is more convenient for Nigerians to complain that they have never benefitted anything from government
So na because of subsidy Dem born you right?😂
Re: States Work On Total Electricity Subsidy Removal, New Tariff by ambale(m): 4:08pm On Jun 10, 2024
daywatcher:
because it is more convenient for Nigerians to complain that they have never benefitted anything from government
So na because of subsidy Dem born you right?😂

Your parents must be too wretched ooo
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