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Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by MindHacker9009(m):
SIRTee15:
So where is this covenant written? How do U get it inscribed on your heart.
Where do U get the instructions of this covenant.
What is the content of the covenant.

Or is that verse is the only scripture U follow?
The covenant is only for those who follow the TRUE GOD of the Original TORAH. The original Torah God wrote on a tablet and gave to Moses was broken and the written Torah by Moses has been corrupted by the Babylonians and later re-corrupted by the Roman Empire. That is why the True God of the Torah has said "I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people"
So that it cannot be corrupted anymore.

Kobojunkie:
Your original Torah, came in almost a millennium after the Torah given by God to Moses? Jeremiah lived during the period between 630BC to 550BC or thereabouts, which is approximately 800- 1000 years after Moses. Meaning the Torah that was given by God to Moses is not the original, right? This other Torah you boast of having which is of probably over a millennium later than the one given by God to Moses is the original, abi? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by Kobojunkie:
MindHacker9009:
■ The covenant is only for those who follow the TRUE GOD of the Original TORAH. The original Torah God wrote on a tablet and gave to Moses was broken and the written Torah by Moses has been corrupted by the Babylonians and later re-corrupted by the Roman Empire. That is why the True God of the Torah has said "I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people" So that it cannot be corrupted anymore.
▶ A millennium after Moses, God of Isreal was still attempting to make the same Old Covenant which He sealed through Moses with the same House of Israel—"...But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD..." —, abi?
▶ The first sealing — ratification of the Law during the time of Moses — did not work at all hence the reason why the God of Israel had to promise the same Law about a Millennium later only to this time seal it it in the hearts of the same House of Jacob which the first seal failed with.

How sure are you that almost 2500 years after Jeremiah made that statement, this second seal that God of Israel said He would make did not equally fail? 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

Religion does indeed kick one's brain in, no be small! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 8:06pm On Jun 08, 2024
MindHacker9009:
The covenant is only for those who follow the TRUE GOD of the Original TORAH. The original Torah God wrote on a tablet and gave to Moses was broken and the written Torah by Moses has been corrupted by the Babylonians and later re-corrupted by the Roman Empire. That is why the True God of the Torah has said "I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people"
So that it cannot be corrupted anymore.
So where can we find this uncorrupted Torah that is written on the heart. that's my question.
Where's your uncorrupted scripture that you follow?
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by MindHacker9009(m):
SIRTee15:
So where can we find this uncorrupted Torah that is written on the heart. that's my question.
Where's your uncorrupted scripture that you follow?
As long as you hold on to your scripture corrupted by sorcerers that tells you that your god mated with Mary another man's wife to produce himself and then offered himself on the cross as sacrifice to himself and then flew up in the sky to return soon for two thousand year now. Then The True God that gave the original Torah will not write the original Torah on your heart.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 10:23pm On Jun 08, 2024
MindHacker9009:
As long as you hold on to your scripture corrupted by sorcerers that tells you that your god mated with Mary another man's wife to produce himself and then offered himself on the cross as sacrifice to himself and then flew up in the sky to return soon for two thousand year now. Then The True God that gave the original Torah will not write the original Torah on your heart.
So you don't have any physical scripture U read. There's no book outlining the content of your Torah.
Is that what U saying?
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by MindHacker9009(m):
SIRTee15:
So you don't have any physical scripture U read. There's no book outlining the content of your Torah.
Is that what U saying?
Was the first Torah given to Moses copied from any physical scripture?

The physical scripture U read today have been corrupted by Magi/sorcerers/magicians to make you believe that: Your god mated with Mary another man's wife to produce himself and then offered himself on the cross as sacrifice to himself and then flew up in the sky to return soon for two thousand year now.
That: 16,000 virgin girls from war captives, of whom 32 were your god's share.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 11:01am On Jun 09, 2024
MindHacker9009:
Was the first Torah given to Moses copied from any physical scripture?

The physical scripture U read today have been corrupted by Magi/sorcerers/magicians to make you believe that: Your god mated with Mary another man's wife to produce himself and then offered himself on the cross as sacrifice to himself and then flew up in the sky to return soon for two thousand year now.
That: 16,000 virgin girls from war captives, of whom 32 were your god's share.
Stop talking about the so called corrupted Torah. I'm not interested talking to U about a book you don't believe in.

I want to know more about your faith. Do U get?

God gave Moses the Torah and told him to write it down so the people can read and learn.

Where is your own book? What book do you follow?
Or are U saying God wrote the Torah in your heart?
If above is the case, Is God writing same Torah into the hearts of people in your faith?
How do U people get know God is writing the same thing into the hearts of everyone in your faith when NOTHING is written down physically to use as standard?
Where is the quality control of your Torah?
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by MindHacker9009(m): 4:56pm On Jun 09, 2024
SIRTee15:
Stop talking about the so called corrupted Torah. I'm not interested talking to U about a book you don't believe in.

I want to know more about your faith. Do U get?

God gave Moses the Torah and told him to write it down so the people can read and learn.

Where is your own book? What book do you follow?
Or are U saying God wrote the Torah in your heart?
If above is the case, Is God writing same Torah into the hearts of people in your faith?
How do U people get know God is writing the same thing into the hearts of everyone in your faith when NOTHING is written down physically to use as standard?
Where is the quality control of your Torah?
The Original Torah God has written in my heart is the quality control I use for the corrupted physical scripture you are using as your own quality control.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by Kobojunkie:
MindHacker9009:
■ The Original Torah God has written in my heart is the quality control I use for the corrupted physical scripture you are using as your own quality control.
▶ A millennium after Moses, God of Isreal was still attempting to make the same Old Covenant which He sealed through Moses with the same House of Israel—"...But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD..." —, abi? undecided
▶ According to you, the first sealing — ratification of the Law during the time of Moses — did not work at all hence the reason why the God of Israel had to promise the same Law about a Millennium later only to this time seal it it in the hearts of the same House of Jacob which the first seal failed with.

So how sure are you that almost 2500 years after Jeremiah made that statement, this other sealing which you pretend claim is the Original Torah that God of Israel said He would make has not equally failed? If God failed with the first which He gave Moses, then it follows that the second could also fail, doesn't it? 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

Religion does indeed kick one's brain in, no be small! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 6:26pm On Jun 09, 2024
MindHacker9009:
The Original Torah God has written in my heart is the quality control I use for the corrupted physical scripture you are using as your own quality control.
God wrote the Torah in your heart.
Did he write it in the heart of other members of your faith?
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by xproducer:
AbuTwins:
The Black Sorcerers worshipped baby Jesus!
On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. Matthew 2:11

The Magi are Sorcerers or Magicians from the east!
They came to worship Jesus!
Again Sorcerers worshipped Jesus and gave him gifts!

Then after Jesus's family called him "out of his mind" the teachers of the law accused him of practicing demonism!

Mark 3:21-22
When His family heard about this, they went out to take custody of Him, saying, “He is out of His mind.” And the scribes who had come down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and, “By the prince of the demons He drives out demons.”

The key is why sorcerers or magicians (people who were supposed to be killed under Deuteronomic laws) could have worshipped Jesus!
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The Unpardonable Sin

Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation”— because they said, “He has an unclean spirit.” - Mark 3:28-30

Let it be known to you, man...

"You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!" - James 2:19

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." - John 1:1

"And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." - John 1:14

"Now there was a man in their synagogue with an unclean spirit. And he cried out, saying, “Let us alone! What have we to do with You, Jesus of Nazareth? Did You come to destroy us? I know who You are—the Holy One of God!” - Mark 1:23-24

"And demons also came out of many, crying out and saying, “You are the Christ, the Son of God!” And He, rebuking them, did not allow them to speak, for they knew that He was the Christ." - Luke 4:41

"For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power." - Colossians 2:9-10

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"But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” - Matthew 12:36-37
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by MindHacker9009(m):
SIRTee15:
God wrote the Torah in your heart.
Did he write it in the heart of other members of your faith?
That's where you're getting it wrong about God writing His Original Torah on our heart. You don't become a member of any religious cult and following the quality control of Magi/Sorcerers, instead we have the wisdom of The True God of the Original Torah guiding us at all times.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 8:29am On Jun 10, 2024
MindHacker9009:
That's where you're getting it wrong about God writing His Original Torah on our heart. You don't become a member of any religious cult and following quality the control Magi/Sorcerers following, instead we have the wisdom of The True God of the Original Torah guiding us at all times.
How? That's the my question.
How does the highlighted happen.
If I become a member of your faith, how will I know what's in the original Torah and how to avoid the corrupted texts in the scripture.
How do I gain the wisdom of this True God? How does he guide me?
What an are the mechanism put in place by the True God to ensure we do not believe any corrupted text about him?
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by MindHacker9009(m):
SIRTee15:
How? That's the my question.
How does the highlighted happen.
If I become a member of your faith, how will I know what's in the original Torah and how to avoid the corrupted texts in the scripture.
How do I gain the wisdom of this True God? How does he guide me?
What an are the mechanism put in place by the True God to ensure we do not believe any corrupted text about him?
Where is the quality control of your physical scripture, when you have hundreds of different faiths with members all following your corrupted physical scripture.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 10:29am On Jun 10, 2024
MindHacker9009:
Where is the quality control of your physical scripture, when you have hundreds of different faiths with members all following your corrupted physical scripture.
I already told U I don't want to discuss the so called corrupted scriptures.
I want to discuss the uncorrupted text!!!!

It doesn't matter what I tell U about the bible, U have made up your mind it's corrupted, so what's the point!!!

Now answer my question.
What scripture do I need to follow to be guided by the wisdom of this one true God.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by MindHacker9009(m): 10:46am On Jun 10, 2024
SIRTee15:
I already told U I don't want to discuss the so called corrupted scriptures.
I want to discuss the uncorrupted text!!!!

It doesn't matter what I tell U about the bible, U have made up your mind it's corrupted, so what's the point!!!

Now answer my question.
What scripture do I need to follow to be guided by the wisdom of this one true God.
You answer my question: Where is the quality control for your physical scripture, when you have hundreds of different faiths with members all following your corrupted physical scripture, which Magi and Sorcerers are using to deceive those that have do not have the Original Torah written in their heart.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 11:26am On Jun 10, 2024
MindHacker9009:
You answer my question: Where is the quality control for your physical scripture, when you have hundreds of different faiths with members all following your corrupted physical scripture, which Magi and Sorcerers are using to deceive those that have do not have the Original Torah written in their heart.
Mr Man the quality control is preservation of the text.
The dead sea scrolls confirm preservation of the text for over 2 thousand years.
We had this discussion in the past but U rejected the evidence. So what's the point!!!!

Now answer my own question, how do know the guidance and wisdom of the one true God if U don't have a text to follow.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by MindHacker9009(m):
SIRTee15:
Mr Man the quality control is preservation of the text.
The dead sea scrolls confirm preservation of the text for over 2 thousand years.
We had this discussion in the past but U rejected the evidence. So what's the point!!!!

Now answer my own question, how do know the guidance and wisdom of the one true God if U don't have a text to follow.
There are fake copies of the dead sea scrolls flying around selling for millions of $$$, so what quality control do you have for whichever copy you are relying on to even know if any scroll was even discovered in the first place.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 1:21pm On Jun 10, 2024
MindHacker9009:
There are fake copies of your dead sea scrolls flying around selling for millions of $$$ and what quality control do you have for whichever copy you are relying on to even know if any scroll was even discovered in the first place.
The dead sea scrolls are stored on both Israel antiquity museum and the Jordanian museum.
They have been digitised and anybody can view them online.
Now U claiming no scroll was discovered, U see why it's futile discussing so called corrupted text with U.

Just answer my question, how am I guided by the wisdom of the only true God if there's no scripture to follow.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by MindHacker9009(m): 4:36pm On Jun 10, 2024
SIRTee15:
The dead sea scrolls are stored on both Israel antiquity museum and the Jordanian museum.
They have been digitised and anybody can view them online.
Now U claiming no scroll was discovered, U see why it's futile discussing so called corrupted text with U.

Just answer my question, how am I guided by the wisdom of the only true God if there's no scripture to follow.
How about the Gnostic gospels of the Nag Hammadi library discovered in 1886 before the Dead Sea scrolls of the Essene library, so which quality control did you use to decide which one to accept?
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 6:26pm On Jun 10, 2024
MindHacker9009:
How about the Gnostic gospels of the Nag Hammadi library discovered in 1886 before the Dead Sea scrolls of the Essene library, so which quality control did you use to decide which one to accept?
Do U believe in the gnostic gospels? Are they your quality control because I don't know why U talking about them.

Dead sea scrolls are quality control because they are the oldest manuscript we have with us and they correlate with our scriptures.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by MindHacker9009(m):
SIRTee15:
Do U believe in the gnostic gospels? Are they your quality control because I don't know why U talking about them.

Dead sea scrolls are quality control because they are the oldest manuscript we have with us and they correlate with our scriptures.
I'm not using any gospels written by a man as quality control. The gnostic gospels discovered were dated back to about the eight century and are the oldest written down gospels closest to the supposed ministry of Jesus in the first century, making it within eight hundred years.
But the Dead Sea Scrolls which we are not even sure of it's authenticity, is dated to around the first century AD which is about one thousand six hundred years after Moses wrote down the Torah, so what quality control have you used to check if the Dead Sea Scrolls are the original words in Torah written down by Moses.

The only written down quality control I would have accepted is the Original Torah God Himself wrote and gave to Moses but since it was broken, the only quality control I use now is the Original Torah God has written in my heart.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 10:50am On Jun 11, 2024
MindHacker9009:
I'm not using any gospels written by a man as quality control. The gnostic gospels discovered were dated back to about the eight century and are the oldest written down gospels closest to the supposed ministry of Jesus in the first century, making it within eight hundred years.
But the Dead Sea Scrolls which we are not even sure of it's authenticity, is dated to around the first century AD which is about one thousand six hundred years after Moses wrote down the Torah, so what quality control have you used to check if the Dead Sea Scrolls are the original words in Torah written down by Moses.

The only written down quality control I would have accepted is the Original Torah God Himself wrote and gave to Moses but since it was broken, the only quality control I use now is the Original Torah God has written in my heart.
So U have the original Torah written in your heart by God.
Did God also write it on the hearts of other followers of your faith?
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by MindHacker9009(m): 1:20pm On Jun 11, 2024
SIRTee15:
So U have the original Torah written in your heart by God.
Did God also write it on the hearts of other followers of your faith?
It's not a religious faith with members all following your corrupted physical scripture, which Magi and Sorcerers are using to deceive those that do not have the Original Torah written in their heart.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 2:02pm On Jun 11, 2024
MindHacker9009:
It's not a religious faith with members all following your corrupted physical scripture, which Magi and Sorcerers are using to deceive those that do not have the Original Torah written in their heart.
Are U the only one in world that has the original Torah written in his heart?
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by MindHacker9009(m):
SIRTee15:
Are U the only one in world that has the original Torah written in his heart?
God has not written His Original Torah in my heart and told me to go and look for others He has written the same Original Torah in their heart so that we can form a religion. No it does not work like your corrupted physical scripture where you have to look for others following the same corrupted physical scripture to form a religion with so that Magi and Sorcerers can use it to deceive those that are naive .
When God writes His Original Torah in a person's heart it means we are always guided by the Original Torah in all that they do.
Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 8:25pm On Jun 11, 2024
MindHacker9009:
God has not written His Original Torah in my heart and told me to go and look for others He has written the same Original Torah in their heart so that we can form a religion. No it does not work like your corrupted physical scripture where you have to look for others following the same corrupted physical scripture to form a religion with so that Magi and Sorcerers can use it to deceive those that are naive .
When God writes His Original Torah in a person's heart it means we are always guided by the Original Torah in all that they do.
How can God write the original Torah in my heart too
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