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Am I the only one thinking that the idea of an “Orlu state” with Anambra LGAs like Ihiala, Orumba and towns like Ozubulu is, to put it mildly, highly controversial?
BTW why Ozubulu from Ekwusigo LGA, but not others from that same LGA?
Do those flying this kite actually know Ozubulu people well?
Does anyone actually think that they can separate Ihiala from the rest of the “Orsu people” in places like Ukpor, Utu, and others in Nnewi South LGA?
Similarly, how does one separate Orumba people from their Aguata LGA kins?
But the most egregious mistake is to not recognize that the LGAs mentioned above are TYPICAL ANAMBRA people.
If anyone would excise Ihiala, Orumba and towns like Ozubulu into an Orlu state, why not take Nnewi North, and Idemili LGAs, too?
If I were advising those sponsoring this Orlu state, I would advise them to first change the name of the state to something else, because the LGAs from Abambra would find subsuming them under Orlu unpalatable.
You can name the state Ojukwu state, and include Nnewi North and Idenmili LGAs too.
Overall, I think that the sixth state that South East really needs is ANIOMA state.
All these fractious people trying to split hairs in current South East region should take a chill pill.
QED.

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No town in Anambra would like to leave Anambra for Orlu State.Anambra is a pride

Orlu state proposal is doomed to fail. No part of Anambra will join your wretched Orlu state home of unknown gunmen. We Anambrarians are supporting Anioma state all the way. Imo ugochinyere is mentally unstable to include Anambra in his delusions.

onumadu:
Am I the only one thinking that the idea of an “Orlu state” with Anambra LGAs like Ihiala, Orumba and towns like Ozubulu is, to put it mildly, highly controversial?
BTW why Ozubulu from Ekwusigo LGA, but not others from that same LGA?
Do those flying this kite actually know Ozubulu people well?
Does anyone actually think that they can separate Ihiala from the rest of the “Orsu people” in places like Ukpor, Utu, and others in Nnewi South LGA?
Similarly, how does one separate Orumba people from their Aguata LGA kins?
But the most egregious mistake is to not recognize that the LGAs mentioned above are TYPICAL ANAMBRA people.
If anyone would excise Ihiala, Orumba and towns like Ozubulu into an Orlu state, why not take Nnewi North, and Idemili LGAs, too?
If I were advising those sponsoring this Orlu state, I would advise them to first change the name of the state to something else, because the LGAs from Abambra would find subsuming them under Orlu unpalatable.
You can name the state Ojukwu state, and include Nnewi North and Idenmili LGAs too.
Overall, I think that the sixth state that South East really needs is ANIOMA state.
All these fractious people trying to split hairs in current South East region should take a chill pill.
QED.

How does state creation seperate any of these people? Will any barrier be erected anywhere to seperate them? State is only for for administrative purposes only. What binds these people is bigger than states

Anioma should be created from Delta State and added to the 5 states of the South East. How can you even think of creating another state from the little SE region?

gidgiddy:
How does state creation seperate any of these people? Will any barrier be erected anywhere to seperate them? State is only for for administrative purposes only. What binds these people is bigger than states

There'll be nothing like orlu, die that agenda already

gidgiddy:
How does state creation seperate any of these people? Will any barrier be erected anywhere to seperate them? State is only for for administrative purposes only. What binds these people is bigger than states

If the SE wants an additional state, they should look into Anioma or Adada state.

Period

We want Anioma state. Let our kith and kin join us Biko. My mom's ancestors migrated from Aboh in Anioma to Azia in Anambra state. Let's be together once again

onumadu:
Am I the only one thinking that the idea of an “Orlu state” with Anambra LGAs like Ihiala, Orumba and towns like Ozubulu is, to put it mildly, highly controversial?
BTW why Ozubulu from Ekwusigo LGA, but not others from that same LGA?
Do those flying this kite actually know Ozubulu people well?
Does anyone actually think that they can separate Ihiala from the rest of the “Orsu people” in places like Ukpor, Utu, and others in Nnewi South LGA?
Similarly, how does one separate Orumba people from their Aguata LGA kins?
But the most egregious mistake is to not recognize that the LGAs mentioned above are TYPICAL ANAMBRA people.
If anyone would excise Ihiala, Orumba and towns like Ozubulu into an Orlu state, why not take Nnewi North, and Idemili LGAs, too?
If I were advising those sponsoring this Orlu state, I would advise them to first change the name of the state to something else, because the LGAs from Abambra would find subsuming them under Orlu unpalatable.
You can name the state Ojukwu state, and include Nnewi North and Idenmili LGAs too.
Overall, I think that the sixth state that South East really needs is ANIOMA state.
All these fractious people trying to split hairs in current South East region should take a chill pill.
QED.

There is nothing controversial happening. An Ihiala and Orumba man knows that Orlu people are his immediate brothers over Onitsha and Akwa people. The issue is you people learn that you're Igbo from the internet and social media. If I asked you whether you can have this conversation with any of your elders you will say no.

All of the communities you listed are members of the Orlu organizations outside of Igboland. They know themselves and they know who they are. Orlu/Oru culture is real like Anioma, or Umueri culture is real. You people are not googling well enough since you refuse to talk to people who know better

The problem with you Google Igbos is you don't actually know what Igboland is or how it works. You think it's a topic on social media.

If there is an Anioma state, do you think Onitsha people will want to leave their actual people in Anioma and continue suffering neglect from the Akwa government they don't know in the fake name of Anambra?

You actually think, that somebody in Awo-Idemili is going to remain in a state with someone from Enugu Ukwu over his brother in Awo-Omamma?

Or is it that you people sincerely don't know what Igboland is and you're just learning about it from facebook arguments pages?

Orlu state is real, Anambra and Imo are military concoctions

Adaisback:
We want Anioma state. Let our kith and kin join us Biko. My mom's ancestors migrated from Aboh in Anioma to Azia in Anambra state. Let's be together once again

You don't know Onitsha will be a part of Anioma state?

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onumadu:
Am I the only one thinking that the idea of an “Orlu state” with Anambra LGAs like Ihiala, Orumba and towns like Ozubulu is, to put it mildly, highly controversial?
BTW why Ozubulu from Ekwusigo LGA, but not others from that same LGA?
Do those flying this kite actually know Ozubulu people well?
Does anyone actually think that they can separate Ihiala from the rest of the “Orsu people” in places like Ukpor, Utu, and others in Nnewi South LGA?
Similarly, how does one separate Orumba people from their Aguata LGA kins?
But the most egregious mistake is to not recognize that the LGAs mentioned above are TYPICAL ANAMBRA people.
If anyone would excise Ihiala, Orumba and towns like Ozubulu into an Orlu state, why not take Nnewi North, and Idemili LGAs, too?
If I were advising those sponsoring this Orlu state, I would advise them to first change the name of the state to something else, because the LGAs from Abambra would find subsuming them under Orlu unpalatable.
You can name the state Ojukwu state, and include Nnewi North and Idenmili LGAs too.
Overall, I think that the sixth state that South East really needs is ANIOMA state.
All these fractious people trying to split hairs in current South East region should take a chill pill.
QED.

political division is not a call fr war it's the federal allocation. Don't come here with your village mentality come to north few houses are local government area in Kano.

onumadu:
Am I the only one thinking that the idea of an “Orlu state” with Anambra LGAs like Ihiala, Orumba and towns like Ozubulu is, to put it mildly, highly controversial?
BTW why Ozubulu from Ekwusigo LGA, but not others from that same LGA?
Do those flying this kite actually know Ozubulu people well?
Does anyone actually think that they can separate Ihiala from the rest of the “Orsu people” in places like Ukpor, Utu, and others in Nnewi South LGA?
Similarly, how does one separate Orumba people from their Aguata LGA kins?
But the most egregious mistake is to not recognize that the LGAs mentioned above are TYPICAL ANAMBRA people.
If anyone would excise Ihiala, Orumba and towns like Ozubulu into an Orlu state, why not take Nnewi North, and Idemili LGAs, too?
If I were advising those sponsoring this Orlu state, I would advise them to first change the name of the state to something else, because the LGAs from Abambra would find subsuming them under Orlu unpalatable.
You can name the state Ojukwu state, and include Nnewi North and Idenmili LGAs too.
Overall, I think that the sixth state that South East really needs is ANIOMA state.
All these fractious people trying to split hairs in current South East region should take a chill pill.
QED.

That new state proposed in the SE zone contains the largest deposit of Natural gas in Nigeria, and has been the oil producing areas of Imo state right from te te.
Any reasonable Igbo from Anambra south senatorial district looks forward to joining Orlu state.

Loads of the local government areas in Anambra south proposed to join Orlu state share long time common ties and culture with Orsu in Orlu senatorial district.
Even loads of the parish churches, including the Catholic Church, in Anambra South are in Orlu Dioceses.

Nobody reasonable in Anambra South understands why these anti Igbo people make posts upandan, and talk "no part of Anambra State is joining Orlu state." Were we all not in the East Central State before? Stop hiding behind your desire to deny the SE commensurate political representation in Abuja, to ask for Anioma state to be created and brought to the SE, because if Anioma is created for the SE, it worsens the situation of political underrepresentation for Igbos.

Walahi, ezi okwu, some of you people on this "no part of Anambra State is leaving" are most apolitical, and deserve to be taken under a tree in Kano or Sokoto, to be taught 'Nigeria Politics 101.'

onuman:
That new state proposed in the SE zone contains the largest deposit of Natural gas in Nigeria, and has been the oil producing areas of Imo state right from te te.
Any reasonable Igbo from Anambra south senatorial district looks forward to joining Orlu state.

Loads of the local government areas in Anambra south proposed to join Orlu state share long time common ties and culture with Orsu in Orlu senatorial district.
Even loads of the parish churches, including the Catholic Church, in Anambra South are in Orlu Dioceses.

Nobody reasonable in Anambra South understands why these anti Igbo people make posts upandan, and talk "no part of Anambra State is joining Orlu state." Were we all not in the East Central State before? Stop hiding behind your desire to deny the SE commensurate political representation in Abuja, to ask for Anioma state to be created and brought to the SE, because if Anioma is created for the SE, it worsens the situation of political underrepresentation for Igbos.

Walahi, ezi okwu, some of you people on this "no part of Anambra State is leaving" are most apolitical, and deserve to be taken under a tree in Kano or Sokoto, to be taught 'Nigeria Politics 101.'

Lies

Orlu state is a mentally retarded idea, that's why you see the barrage of rejection it is receiving from Anambra people and beyond

Adding anioma state to the south east could have made more sense to me that's if the real anioma people agrees to it the current five eastern states is already geographically too small to create another state from the region and it's also going to potentially cause crises if proper consultation is not made with the communities included before creating the proposed orlu state

Ofodirinwa:
You don't know Onitsha will be a part of Anioma state?

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eh! Onitsha Kwa? Biko ha jide Kwa anioma ha . I no do again

onuman:
Nobody reasonable in Anambra South understands why these anti Igbo people make posts upandan, and talk "no part of Anambra State is joining Orlu state." Were we all not in the East Central State before? Stop hiding behind your desire to deny the SE commensurate political representation in Abuja, to ask for Anioma state to be created and brought to the SE, because if Anioma is created for the SE, it worsens the situation of political underrepresentation for Igbos.

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Suddenly I Onumadu the GREAT have acquired a title of "anti-Igbo" just because you disagree with my points.
Chai.
You didn't even address the points I raised, instead you resorted to ad hominem.
You don't realize that Ndigbo are not your average Joe in Nigeria in EVERY FIELD.
It is an insult to refer me to "Sokoto" to learn politics, because Nigeria has been reduced to a hell-hole by people from that side.
So, no I would rather choose "Igbo made" way of addressing issues.
It is that "Igbo made way" that made current South East the most politically stable and the fastest growing region in terms of socioeconomic development.
We got there by being VERY REALISTIC about ourselves.

Are you from Ozubulu?
Or Umunze?
Or their neighbor?

If not, then you really aren't qualified to comment on this.
Ihiala sef is questionable because they have the Okijas (a very diehard Anambra people).
You cannot have these people as currently proposed. That is why I suggested adding Nnewi North and Idemili and changing the name of the state. For POLITICAL REALITY AND STABILITY.
Though I doubt that current Anambra state would ever release Nnewi to anybody any time soon, but if the deal is right, maybe...
But as far as I know today, I am yet to see any town or LGA that wants to be carved out of Anambra state.
And it is not for one reason: It is for a collective or composite of reasons.
What matters is that we retain the political stability which the South East region enjoys.
That is why I believe that if Anioma qualifies to join South East (note the term "qualifies" because they need some serious vetting first) then it should be a better option for South east.

Ofodirinwa:
There is nothing controversial happening. An Ihiala and Orumba man knows that Orlu people are his immediate brothers over Onitsha and Akwa people. The issue is you people learn that you're Igbo from the internet and social media. If I asked you whether you can have this conversation with any of your elders you will say no.

All of the communities you listed are members of the Orlu organizations outside of Igboland. They know themselves and they know who they are. Orlu/Oru culture is real like Anioma, or Umueri culture is real. You people are not googling well enough since you refuse to talk to people who know better

I can tell you for free that Ozubulu ALWAYS caucus with Nnewi organizations abroad.
Umunze go along with Aguata ones.
You are omitting these two and focusing only on the "Orsu" people, which BTW includes Ukpor, Utu, Akwaihedi et al.
All in Nnewi South LGA.

Anambra people and pride. Their problem isn't the merging of the local governments to form a state. They're angry because it is termed Orlu State. Just change it to Ihiala State they will surely be happy.

Ndi supremacists

onumadu:
Suddenly I Onumadu the GREAT have acquired a title of "anti-Igbo" just because you disagree with my points.
Chai.
You didn't even address the points I raised, instead you resorted to ad hominem.
You don't realize that Ndigbo are not your average Joe in Nigeria in EVERY FIELD.
It is an insult to refer me to "Sokoto" to learn politics, because Nigeria has been reduced to a hell-hole by people from that side.
So, no I would rather choose "Igbo made" way of addressing issues.
It is that "Igbo made way" that made current South East the most politically stable and the fastest growing region in terms of socioeconomic development.
We got there by being VERY REALISTIC about ourselves.

Are you from Ozubulu?
Or Umunze?
Or their neighbor?

If not, then you really aren't qualified to comment on this.
Ihiala sef is questionable because they have the Okijas (a very diehard Anambra people).
You cannot have these people as currently proposed. That is why I suggested adding Nnewi North and Idemili and changing the name of the state. For POLITICAL REALITY AND STABILITY.
Though I doubt that current Anambra state would ever release Nnewi to anybody any time soon, but if the deal is right, maybe...
But as far as I know today, I am yet to see any town or LGA that wants to be carved out of Anambra state.
And it is not for one reason: It is for a collective or composite of reasons.
What matters is that we retain the political stability which the South East region enjoys.
That is why I believe that if Anioma qualifies to join South East (note the term "qualifies" because they need some serious vetting first) then it should be a better option for South east.

The 12 local government areas in Orlu zone qualify for State status. If those in Abambra South have recently changed their minds over joining Orlu state, let them remain in Anambra State. Abi na by force?
Luckily, Orlu state proposal which houses the largest reserve of natural gas in Nigeria, is the most viable option among all the proposals for a 6th state in the SE zone. In the midst of the Nazist-like arguments of people like you; foolish argument like no part of Anambra State will join parts of Imo for a new state, have you read how one Yoruba man carved out the gas and oil areas of Orlu zone into his new southsouth zone proposal? They are already building a coastal highway to connect this new southsouth to Lagos.
The rabble-rouser lady legislator from Umunze does not wish her people and Ndigbo well. Imo and Anambra States were in one East Central State. What has changed between Igbo in Anambra and Igbo in Imo state?

Ofodirinwa:
There is nothing controversial happening. An Ihiala and Orumba man knows that Orlu people are his immediate brothers over Onitsha and Akwa people. The issue is you people learn that you're Igbo from the internet and social media. If I asked you whether you can have this conversation with any of your elders you will say no.

All of the communities you listed are members of the Orlu organizations outside of Igboland. They know themselves and they know who they are. Orlu/Oru culture is real like
Anioma, or Umueri culture is real. You people are not googling well enough since you refuse to talk to people who know better

In bold.

Travelling abroad, in Old Orlu Divisional Union branches abroad, people from these Anambra south communities are members of Old Orlu Divisional Unions.

onumadu:
Am I the only one thinking that the idea of an “Orlu state” with Anambra LGAs like Ihiala, Orumba and towns like Ozubulu is, to put it mildly, highly controversial?
BTW why Ozubulu from Ekwusigo LGA, but not others from that same LGA?
Do those flying this kite actually know Ozubulu people well?
Does anyone actually think that they can separate Ihiala from the rest of the “Orsu people” in places like Ukpor, Utu, and others in Nnewi South LGA?
Similarly, how does one separate Orumba people from their Aguata LGA kins?
But the most egregious mistake is to not recognize that the LGAs mentioned above are

TYPICAL ANAMBRA people.

If anyone would excise Ihiala, Orumba and towns like Ozubulu into an Orlu state, why not take Nnewi North, and Idemili LGAs, too?
If I were advising those sponsoring this Orlu state, I would advise them to first change the name of the state to something else, because the LGAs from Abambra would find subsuming them under Orlu unpalatable.
You can name the state Ojukwu state, and include Nnewi North and Idenmili LGAs too.
Overall, I think that the sixth state that South East really needs is ANIOMA state.
All these fractious people trying to split hairs in current South East region should take a chill pill.
QED.

Racism is foolish - Tony Blair, former PM of the UK.


The term "Typical Anambra people" is a foolish figment of immaginations of inferior persons, like racism is a figment of immaginations of normally the downtrodden.
The well-to-dos from Anambra and Imo States don't segregate among Igbos, be they from Anambra, Imo, Enugu, Ebonyi.
You are not brilliant is the reason why you can't understand that creating Anioma state you suggested and making it the 6th state in the SE actually lowers the political representation of the Igbos in the National Assembly and the Federal Executive Council.

Orlu state proposal is the richest in natural gas in Nigeria, and an oil producing area.
Any saner person from Anambra south will happily join the Orlu state proposal.

Adaisback:
We want Anioma state. Let our kith and kin join us Biko. My mom's ancestors migrated from Aboh in Anioma to Azia in Anambra state. Let's be together once again

Your moms ancestors are most likely of igala heritage.

onumadu:
I can tell you for free that Ozubulu ALWAYS caucus with Nnewi organizations abroad.
Umunze go along with Aguata ones.
You are omitting these two and focusing only on the "Orsu" people, which BTW includes Ukpor, Utu, Akwaihedi et al.
All in Nnewi South LGA.

Wait till you learn what zone Umunze is.
These are real cultural zones, not hausa military nonsense

onuman:
Racism is foolish - Tony Blair, former PM of the UK.


The term "Typical Anambra people" is a foolish figment of immaginations of inferior persons, like racism is a figment of immaginations of normally the downtrodden.
The well-to-dos from Anambra and Imo States don't segregate among Igbos, be they from Anambra, Imo, Enugu, Ebonyi.
You are not brilliant is the reason why you can't understand that creating Anioma state you suggested and making it the 6th state in the SE actually lowers the political representation of the Igbos in the National Assembly and the Federal Executive Council.

Orlu state proposal is the richest in natural gas in Nigeria, and an oil producing area.
Any saner person from Anambra south will happily join the Orlu state proposal.

onuman:
The 12 local government areas in Orlu zone qualify for State status. If those in Abambra South have recently changed their minds over joining Orlu state, let them remain in Anambra State. Abi na by force?
Luckily, Orlu state proposal which houses the largest reserve of natural gas in Nigeria, is the most viable option among all the proposals for a 6th state in the SE zone. In the midst of the Nazist-like arguments of people like you; foolish argument like no part of Anambra State will join parts of Imo for a new state, have you read how one Yoruba man carved out the gas and oil areas of Orlu zone into his new southsouth zone proposal? They are already building a coastal highway to connect this new southsouth to Lagos.
The rabble-rouser lady legislator from Umunze does not wish her people and Ndigbo well. Imo and Anambra States were in one East Central State. What has changed between Igbo in Anambra and Igbo in Imo state?

I bolded the only justification you really have for breaking up people who don't want to be broken (Thank God that their own representative at the national assembly actually spoke out forcefully in support of my point, while you focus on OIL AND GAS).

When I said that the people are TYPICAL Anambra people, that is my point: We (Anambra people) don't focus on natural resources while making serious political decisions that cuts into sociocultural things that outlive political ones.

The people I mentioned believe in HUMAN resources (what they can do with their own hands and minds) more than oil and gas.
You can easily verify this point.

I would wait till their politicians and reps come out openly to support your view before conceding this point.
Meanwhile your gaslighting "Nazist-like" badge you are preparing for me won't stick.
Reduce your emotions, and maybe, just maybe you may see my point.

Ofodirinwa:
Wait till you learn what zone Umunze is.
These are real cultural zones, not hausa military nonsense

As far as I know, Umunze has belonged with/to Aguata from wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back.
Orumba is a new thing.
EOD.

onumadu:
I bolded the only justification you really have for breaking up people who don't want to be broken (Thank God that their own representative at the national assembly actually spoke out forcefully in support of my point, while you focus on OIL AND GAS).

When I said that the people are TYPICAL Anambra people, that is my point: We (Anambra people) don't focus on natural resources while making serious political decisions that cuts into sociocultural things that outlive political ones.

The people I mentioned believe in HUMAN resources (what they can do with their own hands and minds) more than oil and gas.
You can easily verify this point.

I would wait till their politicians and reps come out openly to support your view before conceding this point.
Meanwhile your gaslighting "Nazist-like" badge you are preparing for me won't stick.
Reduce your emotions, and maybe, just maybe you may see my point.

Do you know that the name Anambra is only a river which doesn't traverse through the areas of Anambra south now cut out to join Imo West Senatorial district for Orlu state proposal?
Do you know that Anambra is no description of any group in original Igbo grouping of people in Igboland? Do you know that the name "Anambra State" is a coinage by military dictators?
How come the obsession in some of you with the name Anambra?
Do you know that all of us in present Imo and Anambra States were in one state before 1976?

@onumadu.


Anambra River region and culture:
Omambala was the name of the ancient goddess whose river runs from the Uzo-uwa-ani underworld to Aguleri, Anam, Nsugbe and Onicha axis, where it connects with Nkisi & Niger-kwora/Mgbakili Rivers in their journey to the Atlantic Ocean.


Omambala areas of present Anambra State are culturally and traditionally different to Anambra south senatorial district.
Instead, most of Anambra south is culturally and traditionally related to Orsu/Oru in Orlu senatorial zone. Even the parish Churches of much of the local government areas in Anambra south are in Orlu Dioceses. Outside Igbo land, a lot of people from Anambra south are members of Old Orlu Divisional Unions, even abroad.

Adaisback:
We want Anioma state. Let our kith and kin join us Biko. My mom's ancestors migrated from Aboh in Anioma to Azia in Anambra state. Let's be together once again

This is a pure fabricated lie. There is no connection between Azia and Aboh. Azia people migrated from arochukwu.

Amah70:
@onumadu.

Omambala areas of present Anambra State are culturally and traditionally different to Anambra south senatorial district.
Instead, most of Anambra south is culturally and traditionally related to Orsu/Oru in Orlu senatorial zone. Even the parish Churches of much of the local government areas in Anambra south are in Orlu Dioceses. Outside Igbo land, a lot of people from Anambra south are members of Old Orlu Divisional Unions, even abroad.

This is not true. At all. And that is because you have Nnewi North and South there too. You also have Ekwusigo LGA there too.
You may talk about Ihiala (I need to confirm this first though), but even that is a stretch.
And when talking about political/cultural things, please forget about the Catholic church districts.
We are talking about POLITICAL leanings, and you need to show me political proofs to support your view.
Most of them are also "Nri-Awka".
As I mentioned already, their representative at the national assembly is already kicking and screaming NO to the idea.
Until you get me politicians from the area supporting the idea, you are not landing any points.