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sacajawea:
You sure of this?

Warrior generals of large battalions of the Benin Empire were called Oguns. The battalions themselves were called Oguns.

The Edo Period of Japan was a military regime, and the rulers were military administrators and were called SHOGUN, and the word is pronounced the same way as Ogun.

It appears that it was the Benin warrior classes that went there and became the famous 'Samurai warriors'.

Samurai Warrior Outfit, Japan
https://3.api.artsmia.org/800/108860.jpg

ruggedtimi:
the benin empire is recorded to have started in 1440...Fastforward to the Tokugawa Dynasty, twenty years before tokugawa became the shogun, the first recorded black samurai of African descent was Yasuke.
He served as a retainer to Lord Oda Nobunaga. It was recorded that yasuke was a slave to an italian priest in Japan and Oda Nobunaga was very curious to see the blackman.
Meaning there was rarely a blackman in sight at that time...Lord Nobunaga took in Yasuke..he made him a samurai and named him "Yasuke".
And yasuke is believed to have originally come from Mozambique,unless benin people get branch for Mozambique

This is the whitewashed 'official' history of Japan.

The people who wrote that whitewashed garbage cannot account for these sculptures.

Or the connections highlighted in that video posted.

They simply pretend they don't exist.

Quintessence44:
It's actually spelt 'IeYasu'.

The Edo Period was a military regime, and Tokugawa IeYasu was a military commander who began the Edo Period by seizing power with his men.

Interestingly, the title of the Benin Kingdom's military commander, second in power only to the Oba, was and still is, the Iyase.

Another 'coincidence'?

I don't think so...

Statue of Tokugawa IeYasu, Founder of the Edo Period of Japan
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/af/11/d7af111b01518c3bb86650d33b026deb.png

One more thing. Edo warriors were called 'Ogun'.

Japanese warriors were called 'Shogun'.

really

ruggedtimi:
the benin empire is recorded to have started in 1440...Fastforward to the Tokugawa Dynasty, twenty years before tokugawa became the shogun, the first recorded black samurai of African descent was Yasuke.
He served as a retainer to Lord Oda Nobunaga. It was recorded that yasuke was a slave to an italian priest in Japan and Oda Nobunaga was very curious to see the blackman.
Meaning there was rarely a blackman in sight at that time...Lord Nobunaga took in Yasuke..he made him a samurai and named him "Yasuke".
And yasuke is believed to have originally come from Mozambique,unless benin people get branch for Mozambique

LOL

NaMe4:
Benin Empire was a well-established empire during the 11th Century.

i am talking about the Benin Empire...how they started expanding making it an empire. Is a different era from Eweka Era....

No be Ekalahdran,Eweka,ewedo and Ozanugbua I dey see so?. I'm just helping our Idu people in their delusional thinking.

Africans and inferiority complex,am sure Japan has no records of the Edo in Nigeria
Na so some people say them migrate from isreal,some others say they from Saudi Arabia,without any records to prove them

agadez007:
Africans and inferiority complex,am sure Japan has no records to the Edo in Nigeria
Na so some people say them migrate from isreal,some others say they from Saudi Arabia,without any records

People like you make me sick.

Your small mind cannot fathom anything existent outside your mental conditioning.

To the point where you see ACTUAL STATUES of BLACK PEOPLE, and yet, this is the vomit that you spill in response.

If those were images and statues of BLONDE WHITE PEOPLE in ancient Japan, it would be an open and shut case in your head. The whites were there. Period.

But it's showing you CLEAR BLACK AFRICAN PRESENCE, and your head is too brainwashed by false notions of your inferiority that it refuses to see what its own eyes are showing it.

That is truly Disgusting and Despicable, and you are a disgrace for having such a mentality of inferiority.

Here's a bit more for your empty head to learn:

According to British historian Godfrey Higgins, in his famous 1836 work, Anacalypsis ‘’a very great nation of blacks ... did rule over almost all Asia in a very remote era, in fact beyond the reach of history or any of our records’’.

African rulers of Angkor Wat, Ancient Cambodia
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/53/16/03/531603753ff4e19fb9f8fc1e5eb3a0ee.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/27/ce/0a/27ce0ad61bcb9e3cca3802de2e1f82aa.jpg

“For the complexion of men, they consider Black the most beautiful. In all the kingdoms of the southern region, it is the same.” --Nan Ts'i Chou, speaking about medieval Asia
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/84/b0/59/84b0591b76e1d2bb22434ea15d6b1b49.jpg

And relating his wider research, he declared, ’’We have found the black complexion or something relating to it whenever we have approached the origin of nations..’’

H. Imbert, a French anthropologist said in his book, Les Negritos de la Chine,

“The Negroid races peopled at some time all the South of India, Indo-China and China. The South of Indo-China actually has now pure Negritos as the Semangs and mixed as the Malays and the Sakais..”

- H. Imbert , Les Negritos de la Chine

Chinese dynastic records from as early as 192 C.E. reference a kingdom of Lin-yi, which meant the “land of Black men.” They stated the inhabitants possessed

‘‘black skin, eyes deep in the orbit, nose turned up, hair frizzy” at a period when they were not yet subject to foreign domination and preserved the purity of this type.....The fate of the black kingdoms and the black people of far east Asia must be tied to increased pressure from non Africoid peoples pushing down from northern Asia.’’

-The African Presence in the Ancient Far East, Runoko Rashidi

During this same period, ships of the Lin Yi, known to the Chinese by the appellation kun-lun bo (the “vessels of Black men”), were navigating the currents of the Indian Ocean from Southeast Asia to Madagascar.

According to Higgins ''Funan is the name given by Chinese historians to the earliest kingdom of Southeast Asia. Its builders were a Black people known as Khmers, a name that loudly recalls ancient Kmt (Egypt). In remote antiquity the Khmers seem to have established themselves throughout a vast area that encompassed Myanmar, Kampuchea, Laos, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam…''

- Godfrey Higgins, Anacalypsis: An Attempt to Draw Aside the Veil of the Saitic Isis or an Inquiry Into the Origin of Languages, Nations and Religions

NaMe4:
Benin Empire was a well-established empire in the 11th Century.

an empire funded by blood of slaves
It also ended with the end of slavery.
Now it's sustained by yahoo and prostitution.
When these two vices are stopped,you know what will happen.

engrchykae:
an empire funded by blood of slaves
It also ended with the end of slavery.
Now it's sustained by yahoo and prostitution.
When these two vices are stopped,you know what will happen.

The BENIN EMPIRE DID NOT ENGAGE IN THE SLAVE TRADE.

Slave trading was banned throughout the Benin Kingdom.

The Benin Kingdom thrived from the 11th century, over 600 years before the start of the slave trade, so to say it was ''funded by the blood of slaves'' is the very height of historical illiteracy and ignorance.

Quintessence44:
They are indeed a great people.

Here are sculptural examples of the ''Edo Pose'' from ancient Benin, which is very common with the Edo Period Japan sculptures.

https://www.art-prints-on-demand.com/kunst/noartist/k/thm_krieger_benin_nigeria__bronze.jpg

https://rareafricanartwork.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/0/3/120385964/dsc-0559_orig.jpg

https://i.etsystatic.com/9744633/r/il/25237e/4451446220/il_fullxfull.4451446220_8gic.jpg

But I thought it was around this 16th century the edos were already in the present edo land interacting and doing business with the Portuguese according to so many histories I have read?

Quintessence44:
What is 'IIIDO'?

What is 'Edooo'?

Never heard any of those terms.

And you will need to watch that video posted because even DNA evidence was presented, in addition to stunning linguistic similarities.

And how the hell do you explain these sculptures?

They're pronounced as such.

Mrexcell:
But I thought it was around this 16th century the edos were already in the present edo land interacting and doing business with the Portuguese according to so many histories I have read?

They likely sent out emissaries. It was not at all uncommon in ancient times for African empires to travel the seas and explore the world. Africans were the world’s first explorers for thousands of years before any white nations emerged.

The Mali Empire sent 2,000 ships to the Americas centuries before Christopher Columbus, who supposedly ‘discovered’ it.

When Columbus arrived there, he saw Africans, and reported it!

WhizdomXX:
They're pronounced as such.

Wrong. They are both spelled and pronounced the same way. Type in ‘Edo’ in English and get the Japanese translation, here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=translate&rlz=1CDGOYI_enGB1064GB1071&oq=tra&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDwgAEEUYOxiDARixAxiABDIPCAAQRRg7GIMBGLEDGIAEMgYIARBFGDwyBggCEEUYPDIGCAMQRRg9MhMIBBAuGIMBGMcBGLEDGNEDGIAEMgYIBRBFGDkyEwgGEC4YgwEYxwEYsQMY0QMYgAQyCggHEAAYsQMYgAQyEAgIEC4YgwEYsQMYgAQYigUyEAgJEC4YrwEYxwEYgAQYjgXSAQgyMzA2ajBqNKgCAbACAeIDBBgBIF8&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Kemetian:
They likely sent out emissaries. It was not at all uncommon in ancient times for African empires to travel the seas and explore the world. Africans were the world’s first explorers for thousands of years before any white nations emerged.

The Mali Empire sent 2,000 ships to the Americas centuries before Christopher Columbus, who supposedly ‘discovered’ it.

When Columbus arrived there, he saw Africans, and reported it!

Interesting I never knew columbus met blacks in America.

Mrexcell:
Interesting I never knew columbus met blacks in America.

He did, and he referred to the gold-tipped spears and swords they used as ‘Guanin’, the Native American term for them. He took some of the swords and spears back to Portugal where they found they were made of the exact constituents of the swords and spears “of the Guinea Coast.”

Kemetian:
Wrong. They are both spelled and pronounced the same way. Type in ‘Edo’ in English and get the Japanese translation, here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=translate&rlz=1CDGOYI_enGB1064GB1071&oq=tra&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDwgAEEUYOxiDARixAxiABDIPCAAQRRg7GIMBGLEDGIAEMgYIARBFGDwyBggCEEUYPDIGCAMQRRg9MhMIBBAuGIMBGMcBGLEDGNEDGIAEMgYIBRBFGDkyEwgGEC4YgwEYxwEYsQMY0QMYgAQyCggHEAAYsQMYgAQyEAgIEC4YgwEYsQMYgAQYigUyEAgJEC4YrwEYxwEYgAQYjgXSAQgyMzA2ajBqNKgCAbACAeIDBBgBIF8&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Watch any Japanese documentary and you'll see what I'm saying.

Quintessence44:
The Edo Period of Japan refers to the years from 1603 until 1868 when the Tokugawa family ruled Japan. The era is named after the city of Edo, modern-day Tokyo. Yes. The former name of Tokyo was EDO.

A growing number of scholars are saying that the ancient EDO PEOPLE of Nigeria perhaps during the time of the mighty Benin Empire migrated to and settled in Japan, and eventually, their heirs established the EDO PERIOD of Japan, which was said to be a highly prosperous era.

Images from the Edo Period of Japan

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/ee/e6/77eee643d4314c0ca717a45c76dceda5.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/c5/87/2dc587336f93bd9b99df66de4e974d25.png

which scholars? you people have taken delusions to greater heights. 🤣

TAO11:
which scholars? you people have taken delusions to greater heights. 🤣

Do you even have a brain?

What do you make of the sculptures you are seeing?

Why do you even need the opinion of scholars to use your own brain and make sense of what you are seeing?

Are you allergic to research and investigation yourself?

Forum of stupid school dropouts.

What else is in your colonised, brainwashed heads apart from self-hate, racial inferiority complex and historical illiteracy?

If those were sculptures of blonde white men, would you be making snide remarks, and calling the OP ‘delusional’?

Hopeless disgrace of a people.

WhizdomXX:
Watch any Japanese documentary and you'll see what I'm saying.

What documentary?

You’re talking rubbish.

That link is to Google Translate.

Use it!

Kemetian:
Do you even have a brain?

What do you make of the sculptures you are seeing?

Why do you even need the opinion of scholars to use your own brain and make sense of what you are seeing?

Are you allergic to research and investigation yourself?

Forum of stupid school dropouts.

What else is in your colonised, brainwashed heads apart from self-hate, racial inferiority complex and historical illiteracy?

If those were sculptures of blonde white men, would you be making snide remarks, and calling the OP ‘delusional’?

Hopeless disgrace of a people.

if you were redeemable, i would bother to type up a proper reply. but there obviously can’t be any need.

Enjoy your alternatives reality. But at least you’ve now admitted to having lied about “scholars”.

Cheers!

Ah binis are actually irredeemable at this point

Omo i thank God for my life sha

TAO11:
if you were redeemable, i would bother to type up a proper reply. but there obviously can’t be any need.

Enjoy your alternatives reality. But at least you’ve now admitted to having lied about “scholars”.

Cheers!

Watch the damn VIDEO.

It’s full of references to scholars, or can’t you afford data?

Alice Lindsey who wrote ‘The Edomites and the Colour Red’, stated that the Edos were GENETICALLY RELATED TO THE EDOMITES, and that their descendants migrated to Nigeria after the fall of Jerusalem, and that they migrated also to Japan. There are also references to DNA studies by scientists like Di Giacomo linking Japanese Y-DNA haplogroup DE to NIGERIA.

If you can’t afford data to watch the video, tell me, I will send you money.

Japan’s Mysterious African Heritage


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JD8FTP1cWQ?si=PfGQ3Z36AfYfBg4u

Quintessence44:
Watch the damn VIDEO.

It’s full of references to scholars, or can’t you afford data?

Alice Lindsey who wrote ‘The Edomites and the Colour Red’, stated that the Edos were GENETICALLY RELATED TO THE EDOMITES, and that their descendants migrated to Nigeria after the fall of Jerusalem, and that they migrated also to Japan. There are also references to DNA studies by scientists like Di Giacomo linking Japanese Y-DNA haplogroup DE to NIGERIA.

If you can’t afford data to watch the video, tell me, I will send you money.

Japan’s Mysterious African Heritage


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JD8FTP1cWQ?si=PfGQ3Z36AfYfBg4u

No I’m not gonna waste my time watching a dumb video made by another dummy.

What I will do instead is wait on you to name the scholar & what the scholar said regarding any fictional connection between the Bini & Japan. lol.

You have watched the dumb video, so I guess it should be easy to just type the scholar’s name & his claim.

Help yourself!

TAO11:
No I’m not gonna waste my time watching a dumb video made by another dummy.

What I will do instead is wait on you to name the scholar & what the scholar said regarding any fictional connection between the Bini & Japan. lol.

You have watched the dumb video, so I guess it should be easy to just type the scholar’s name & his claim.

Help yourself!

Stupid airhead. I just NAMED TWO SCHOLARS from the video. One was a leader of a team of geneticists!

Blasted dunce.

Who cares what an insolent white supremacist riffraff like you thinks?

A video that's got nearly half a million views, and filled with appreciative, insightful comments from all over the world, doesn't need a faceless nairaland cretin's 'approval'.

Especially one who REFUSES TO WATCH THE VIDEO HE IS ATTACKING.

''Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance'' - Albert Einstein

This forum is filled with closet white supremacists terrified about any new information that doesn't fit the colonial narrative of ancient African ''primitive savagery'', and ALWAYS attack such threads as this.

You, their nasty foot soldier, need to go jump in a FCKING RIVER, you dirty little maggot.

Tell the dirty white supremacists who sent you here to explain these sculptures, and the rest of the connections made in the video, or STFU and get lost.

EDO PERIOD, JAPAN

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a5/8e/ac/a58eaca4da44852a87fcdce6bcfadcf1.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3a/d6/11/3ad611bf4f308ca443199c7af7ba6eb9.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/78/51/d9/7851d94f0ebc5b4e3585091fc91d81ae.png

Quintessence44:
Stupid airhead. I just NAMED TWO SCHOLARS from the video. One was a leader of a team of geneticists!

Blasted dunce.

Who cares what an insolent white supremacist riffraff like you thinks?

A video that's got nearly half a million views, and filled with appreciative, insightful comments from all over the world, doesn't need a faceless nairaland cretin's 'approval'.

Especially one who REFUSES TO WATCH THE VIDEO HE IS ATTACKING.

''Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance'' - Albert Einstein

This forum is filled with closet white supremacists terrified about any new information that doesn't fit the colonial narrative of ancient African ''primitive savagery'', and ALWAYS attack such threads as this.

You, their nasty foot soldier, need to go jump in a FCKING RIVER, you dirty little maggot.

Tell the dirty white supremacists who sent you here to explain these sculptures, and the rest of the connections made in the video, or STFU and get lost.

EDO PERIOD, JAPAN

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a5/8e/ac/a58eaca4da44852a87fcdce6bcfadcf1.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3a/d6/11/3ad611bf4f308ca443199c7af7ba6eb9.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/78/51/d9/7851d94f0ebc5b4e3585091fc91d81ae.png

Your performative anger wouldn’t rescue you from me unfortunately, lol.

You extracted 2 names from your video & called them scholar & scientist who linked Japanese to Bini/Edo.

There’s no such scholar as Alice Lindsey. And Giacomo of course didn’t link no Japanese to Edo/Nigerians.

Also, I don’t see how your attached sculptures are not useless in substantiating your fraudulent claim.

Please help yourself another way or somehow. Just do something. Goodluck!

TAO11:
Your performative anger wouldn’t rescue you from me unfortunately, lol.

You extracted 2 names from your video & called them scholar & scientist who linked Japanese to Bini/Edo.

There’s no such scholar as Alice Lindsey. And Giacomo of course didn’t link no Japanese to Edo/Nigerians.

Also, I don’t see how your attached sculptures are not useless in substantiating your fraudulent claim.

Please help yourself another way or somehow. Just do something. Goodluck!

you are really dealing with the werey

TAO11:
Your performative anger wouldn’t rescue you from me unfortunately, lol.

You extracted 2 names from your video & called them scholar & scientist who linked Japanese to Bini/Edo.

There’s no such scholar as Alice Lindsey. And Giacomo of course didn’t link no Japanese to Edo/Nigerians.

Also, I don’t see how your attached sculptures are not useless in substantiating your fraudulent claim.

Please help yourself another way or somehow. Just do something. Goodluck!

Of course Dr. Alice Linsley exists, and is a well-known anthropologist.

Don't use my slight misspelling of her name to lie that she doesn't exist, you crooked imbeci.le.

In The EdomItes and the Colour Red, she wrote:


''The Edo and the Edomites are related genetically. These are among Abraham's ancestors who came out of Africa. These were originally river peoples who moved along river systems and mountain ridges (the high places). They dispersed rather widely and settled in different regions including the Tigris-Euphrates River Valley and Southern Europe. Some lived in the red city of Petra, the capital of the Nabataean territory in Edom (modern Jordan).

The Greeks called the Edomites the "Idumea" or red people. Esau of Edom was described as having a red skin tone in Genesis 25:25. He was also described as hairy. Abraham's Ainu ancestors also were hairy and had a red skin tone. Abraham's father was called Tera (Terah) a royal name associated with the Ainu of the Upper Nile. These spread as far as Japan where only about 300 pure-blooded Ainu still remain on the island of Hokkaido. The original name of Tokyo was Edo. Among the Ainu the word "Tera" (Terah) means priest. Abraham's father was Terah, a ruler-priest whose territory along the Tigris River extending between Ur and Haran.

The Edomites of the Bible are related to the Edo or Idu of Nigeria and Benin. The title of their rulers is further evidence. The ruler of the Edo is called "Oba" and the first ruler of Petra was the deified Nabataean King Obodas.''


http://biblicalanthropology..com/2011/09/edomites-and-color-red.html

And Giacomo of course didn’t link no Japanese to Edo/Nigerians.

Demonic liar. You cannot make up your own facts. He sure as hell did.

Anti-African demon you.

AFRICA CIVILISED THE ENTIRE WORLD, AND IF YOU CAN'T STAND TO HEAR THAT, GO JUMP IN A FU.C.KING RIVER.

And what makes the sculptures ''fraudulent'', you school dropout?

You think I carved them myself?

STUPID ANIMAL.

Here are more ''fraudulent'' IMAGES FROM THE EDO PERIOD JAPAN.

I want to see you weeping in agony over ancient African GLORY.

So cry some more, because I will FILL THIS THREAD WITH IMAGES TO MAKE YOU WEEP to your heart's content.

And you can always convince your little maggot head that they are ''fraudulent'', you satanic entity.

EDO PERIOD, JAPAN

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/20/3c/11203c5e63c12456b00cb155a3605dad.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0b/4d/97/0b4d974cf2730ba179aedb22c48847f9.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/29/f9/e929f95de232e76e187b03f9d6304589.png