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Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by lekkicctv(m): 10:48am On Jun 15, 2024
Winnin009:
Tantalizers, Sweet Sensation, Big Treat; Mr Biggs out lived them despite meeting Mr Biggs in the market
👍 Yeah
You no be small pikin ooo 😎
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by lekkicctv(m): 10:50am On Jun 15, 2024
hafeeanubasy:
This was IWO ROAD ,IBADAN OWN

It was soo Iconic the that,its the reference point to describe many place to strangers in iwo Road Ibadan then
You see 📌
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by lekkicctv(m): 10:51am On Jun 15, 2024
Trimjos:
There is still me bigss
🙃 Kindly explain further.. yaf confuse
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by Winnin009: 10:54am On Jun 15, 2024
lekkicctv:
👍 Yeah
You no be small pikin ooo 😎
Lol. Reduce your voice o.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by lekkicctv(m): 10:57am On Jun 15, 2024
Winnin009:
Lol. Reduce your voice o.
isOkay 😀
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by dauntless15(m): 11:01am On Jun 15, 2024
Winnin009:
Trust me when I say you won’t relive any good memories. That Mr Biggs you know is gone.

I still visited the one at ICM in Lagos some years back. Had to go get pizza and cold stone to console myself.
Lol abi, naija has happened to it.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by kushe: 11:14am On Jun 15, 2024
mancanoe:
Oh great Mr Biggs the very place I hosted my girlfriend who later became my wife and mother of our 3 children the very first day we met
The oyibos (whites) who ran Mr Biggs of then UAC for many decades left it on a very healthy state in the hands of (Yoruba) Management.... But due to lazy business management attitudes the new major share Holder's of whom are majority Yoruba's started selling franchise to whoever that comes with money, even almost every fuel station had one in their outlets those days.... As a result of this different practices were introduced which where against the initial standard set by the whites oyibos
Example... You must not sell a left over product to a customer... Infact the story is too long let me go to work joooo. (Summary is YORUBA MANAGEMENT KILLED MR BIGGS.)
Absolutely untrue.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by kushe: 11:32am On Jun 15, 2024
Good analysis from everyone so far,but take these facts from someone that really knows that business and what happened.
What killed Mr Biggs? Time and change did.
Before Mr Biggs we had Eddie King Burger,Kass Chicken and Chicken George,all were famous but none was financially super successful because they were all family businesses.
In 1986 UAC opened Mr Biggs after a failed attempt to bring McDonald's into Nigeria. It was an experiment and they themselves were not expecting it to be so successful. It succeeded because it had the largest indigenous company behind it,and that company had properties scattered all over the country and in viable commercial locations,so the first hurdle was scaled.
Between 86 and early nineties,they had a near monopoly till boom,the Likes of Tastee Fried Chicken,Sweet Sensation and Tantalizers came on board. The sky was still big enough till the mid 2000s when the kitchen started becoming too hot.
Tantalizers seemed to have forcefully grabbed their crown eventhough they had a far lower outlet count nationwide, and Tastee had used excellence to separate themselves from the rest.
Sweet sensation were probably the most well managed as they handled expansion brilliantly without franchising.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by Azazyel: 11:33am On Jun 15, 2024
faceland:
I think it was the opposite. I don't remember anyone thinking Mr. Biggs was trash.

It was competitors that push them out (as they set unrealistic standards and were too sure if themselves).

My father applied, they told him he needed 4 million of in those days money (that would be 40 million of today's naira based on dollars exchange). Then they made some crazy demands like; it must be on a major road (they want it on the road, your property or rented building). People with that type of money are not usually patient enough to nurse a new business-location (they want profit today, those capable of running the show, can't afford the prerequisites).

They felt no one could beat them and overnight many Asians came with their own recipes. Nothing special. Just fry suger and rob it on the body of your finished junk-food, the end.

Anyway, 99% of my comic books back then ware sponsored by them and Guinness Mult.
Were you the writer of Supa strikas?
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by kushe: 11:49am On Jun 15, 2024
The entrance of a million brands in the 2000s into the quick service restaurant space did not help Mr Biggs as each locality all over the country now had new restaurants.
Chicken Repubic,Crunches,Mega Chicken,The Place all came with the new wave of the mid to late 2000s with many of them stealing significant market share from the initial big guys.
Former staff of the big 3 became consultants for entrepreneurs who wanted to get into the fast food business and inevitably Mr Biggs lost its best hands to an industry growing at a rate faster than anyone could have predicted.
The decision to franchise did not help matters like someone rightly pointed out but that was not what killed Mr Biggs. Mr Biggs died because it was owned by an archaic company that was slow to respond to change.
The death that killed Mr Biggs quickly chased and met up with Tantalizers and of recent Sweet Sensation. The Chicken Republic that is shining today is not the old chicken Republic. The old one was riddled with debt and investor issues,naa tens of millions of dollars una dey see so,so Chicken Republic is not out of the woods.
In my opinion Chicken Repubic would be dead as well if not for the constant injection of investor funds in dollars.Their back up is why they were able to run promotions for so long that kept their competitors scratching their heads.
In summary if the economy does not improve significantly, the list of failed restaurants will become extremely long because that model is not sustainable in a low purchasing power environment.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by Vision101(m): 11:50am On Jun 15, 2024
Winnin009:
Well, supreme ice cream doesn’t seem to have a competition till now.

Guess who owns supreme?
I think that it should be UAC foods
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by smogicesamson(m): 12:42pm On Jun 15, 2024
Franchise drove them out, u have Mr Biggs with different owners, different recipes some bad taste some good taste, and definitely bad reviews spread more and kills a business
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by ncoolsome(m): 12:52pm On Jun 15, 2024
I was went to a Mr Biggs in festac,22rd to be precise and they were using candle,that was when I knew the end was near.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by deyplay: 1:10pm On Jun 15, 2024
AmericanIdiot:
Ronaldo is old and almost dead
Microsoft fails to innovate in smartphone space and fails to significantly improve or innovate their windows os and are slowly dying
Facebook has privacy concerns and are losing billions every quarter
Google is known as tech graveyard
Apple is king (and the only reason people still use android is because they can’t afford iPhone)
Lol !! copy and paste this statement of yours on Nairaland business/tech section, Reddit or Quora and await the responses you would get to your opinions. It will shock you!
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by faceland: 2:19pm On Jun 15, 2024
Azazyel:
Were you the writer of Supa strikas?
No
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by SweetVibe: 2:53pm On Jun 15, 2024
Lontorlooka:
The problem started when they opened their doors for franchise players.

People who wanted to start restaurant business but don’t want to go through the effort of creating a new brand and growing customers .
Instead ; they apply, pay some recurring fees , be brand materials , recipes , menu and business starts with customers flooding in .


While this looked like massive chain growth , they couldn’t enforce the meals have the same quality and taste accords board . Franchise members started adding their stuff . Why not ! It’s their business .


Then once a customer have a bad experience at an outlet , they start looking for alternatives sub consciously and they’ll feel all outlets are bad .
This your reasons is too complex to be true....
MCDonald also do franchise but still exists, infact Nigeria Coca-cola and pepsi are the franchise of the main global brand....
Why Mr Biggs left is simply because the Nigerian market is too poor, just few rich and middle-class people.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by Hart11(op): 3:24pm On Jun 15, 2024
spencekat:
Your own na Azikiwe street wey dey Diobu.Olosho plenty for there. 😂.
Azikiwe road dey lead to Spar.
baba you de stay around there abeg make we link up na me create the thread
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by ollypass: 4:35pm On Jun 15, 2024
Winnin009:
Gala has strong competition dragging market share.

Who is competing with their supreme ice cream? The ones in sachets and plastics?

They’ve grown into a powerful brand.
Go figure... what the market share of gala is relative to the competitors..before you use the word strong
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by ollypass: 4:39pm On Jun 15, 2024
faceland:
Bank loan for fast food in Northern Nigeria... And even 3 joints. 😅

That is financial suicide (or forfeiting your collateral).
Yeah bank loan...like I said ..a little research won't hurt your brains
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by AngelicBeing: 4:59pm On Jun 15, 2024
kushe:
The entrance of a million brands in the 2000s into the quick service restaurant space did not help Mr Biggs as each locality all over the country now had new restaurants.
Chicken Repubic,Crunches,Mega Chicken,The Place all came with the new wave of the mid to late 2000s with many of them stealing significant market share from the initial big guys.
Former staff of the big 3 became consultants for entrepreneurs who wanted to get into the fast food business and inevitably Mr Biggs lost its best hands to an industry growing at a rate faster than anyone could have predicted.
The decision to franchise did not help matters like someone rightly pointed out but that was not what killed Mr Biggs. Mr Biggs died because it was owned by an archaic company that was slow to respond to change.
The death that killed Mr Biggs quickly chased and met up with Tantalizers and of recent Sweet Sensation. The Chicken Republic that is shining today is not the old chicken Republic. The old one was riddled with debt and investor issues,naa tens of millions of dollars una dey see so,so Chicken Republic is not out of the woods.
In my opinion Chicken Repubic would be dead as well if not for the constant injection of investor funds in dollars.Their back up is why they were able to run promotions for so long that kept their competitors scratching their heads.
In summary if the economy does not improve significantly, the list of failed restaurants will become extremely long because that model is not sustainable in a low purchasing power environment.
cool
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by AngelicBeing: 5:00pm On Jun 15, 2024
kushe:
Good analysis from everyone so far,but take these facts from someone that really knows that business and what happened.
What killed Mr Biggs? Time and change did.
Before Mr Biggs we had Eddie King Burger,Kass Chicken and Chicken George,all were famous but none was financially super successful because they were all family businesses.
In 1986 UAC opened Mr Biggs after a failed attempt to bring McDonald's into Nigeria. It was an experiment and they themselves were not expecting it to be so successful. It succeeded because it had the largest indigenous company behind it,and that company had properties scattered all over the country and in viable commercial locations,so the first hurdle was scaled.
Between 86 and early nineties,they had a near monopoly till boom,the Likes of Tastee Fried Chicken,Sweet Sensation and Tantalizers came on board. The sky was still big enough till the mid 2000s when the kitchen started becoming too hot.
Tantalizers seemed to have forcefully grabbed their crown eventhough they had a far lower outlet count nationwide, and Tastee had used excellence to separate themselves from the rest.
Sweet sensation were probably the most well managed as they handled expansion brilliantly without franchising.
Gbamsulotely, end of thread cheesy,
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by Winnin009: 5:05pm On Jun 15, 2024
ollypass:
Go figure... what the market share of gala is relative to the competitors..before you use the word strong
Well, Rite and Chi’s Superbite and Beefie are strong competitors. Now I see a new one called kingsway too these days.

I believe you get the picture
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by Winnin009: 5:06pm On Jun 15, 2024
Vision101:
I think that it should be UAC foods
Yeah. Same people that owns Mr Biggs and Gala.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by Slimwhyt(m): 5:18pm On Jun 15, 2024
JOGICE:
Your observation on this is apt, you nailed this question like someone who managed a branch.
cheesy
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by ollypass: 5:25pm On Jun 15, 2024
Winnin009:
Well, Rite and Chi’s Superbite and Beefie are strong competitors. Now I see a new one called kingsway too these days.

I believe you get the picture
judus to your observant nature ..how big is rite, chi, supervise outside ..in Benin in Owerri in port harcourth in Abuja.
then let me leave you with this shocker ...the Kingsway you see was launched from the same stable of UAC ..barley a year ago and out sells all other of those brands you mentioned put together...and it isn't even doing half the revenue of it's senior brother GALA. hope this puts things in perspective.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by faceland: 5:28pm On Jun 15, 2024
ollypass:
Yeah bank loan...like I said ..a little research won't hurt your brains
That is totally foooqin bullshit. You must have something worst 50 million to get 40 million loan and when it fails (multiple by 3 sites, I don't see a profit 120m), you lose your property.

Bottom line, they had stupid prerequisites. We are not in USA, we are in Nigeria, be realistic. If it was sustainable, they would still be in business, after all no one is using their brand today, they can start all over again with the magical loan from bank.

Banks or lawyers are not your friends. If ruining you "legally" would profit them, hey would take the opportunity to do it according to the books.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by Winnin009: 5:30pm On Jun 15, 2024
ollypass:
judus to your observant nature ..how big is rite, chi, supervise outside ..in Benin in Owerri in port harcourth in Abuja.
then let me leave you with this shocker ...the Kingsway you see was launched from the same stable of UAC ..barley a year ago and out sells all other of those brands you mentioned put together...and it isn't even doing half the revenue of it's senior brother GALA. hope this puts things in perspective.
Lol. Thank you for buttressing my point about gala losing market share.

As far as there is a competition, your are losing their money.

As for how big they are in other states?! For real?! Lol

I’ve not been to the north, so I can’t say about that.

But where you see Bigi drinks, you’ll see rite beef roll. I’ve been eating since my university days and I left the uni almost ten years ago.

And superbite; anywhere Chivita gets to, you’ll see superbite there.

So, yeah... gala did lose market share to these guys.

If you don’t agree, it doesn’t change that fact.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by ollypass: 5:57pm On Jun 15, 2024
faceland:
That is totally foooqin bullshit. You must have something worst 50 million to get 40 million loan and when it fails (multiple by 3 sites, I don't see a profit 120m), you lose your property.

Bottom line, they had stupid prerequisites. We are not in USA, we are in Nigeria, be realistic. If it was sustainable, they would still be in business, after all no one is using their brand today, they can start all over again with the magical loan from bank.

Banks or lawyers are not your friends. If ruining you "legally" would profit them, hey would take the opportunity to do it according to the books.
Did you see the part I said they paid off Thier loans in record time?
and we talking bout early 2000s so don't compare it to the business climate now. I talk cos I worked with this people personally. Just because your mind can't fathom how it doesn't mean others won't make it happen
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by ollypass: 6:02pm On Jun 15, 2024
Winnin009:
Lol. Thank you for buttressing my point about gala losing market share.

As far as there is a competition, your are losing their money.

As for how big they are in other states?! For real?! Lol

I’ve not been to the north, so I can’t say about that.

But where you see Bigi drinks, you’ll see rite beef roll. I’ve been eating since my university days and I left the uni almost ten years ago.

And superbite; anywhere Chivita gets to, you’ll see superbite there.

So, yeah... gala did lose market share to these guys.

If you don’t agree, it doesn’t change that fact.
For the life of me? does the presence of other brands in the market mean your losing market share ? of course this brands exist. But which one is growing faster year in year ..so again I ask you how does a growing brand lose market share ? hence where is the growth?don't confuse players existing in Thier niche for lose of market share in a market that's very very big, with still much room to innovate.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by ollypass: 6:08pm On Jun 15, 2024
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by sowilli: 7:00pm On Jun 15, 2024
Thephilosopher1:
Competition drove them out
not really. Customers needs are always changing. If the way you did business 5 years ago is how you still do business today, your time is short. You can always stay ahead of the competition if you are innovative enough.
Re: What Happened To Mr Biggs? by anthropizzy(m): 8:42pm On Jun 15, 2024
Winnin009:
Chicken republic?! KFC?! Those are new cats.

You forgot Tantalizers, Sweet Sensation, Big Treat; Mr Biggs out lived them despite meeting Mr Biggs in the market o
You just bought back the sweet nostalgia feelings that I once had for big treat.
Big Treat bread was so lovely and luscious. In fact, at that time no other bread beat its taste. Wish I can have the recipe of big treat bread.
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