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praise YAHOVAH

and praise the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ
which satan and his people cannot say



Christ is praised much throughout the new testament

Rev 5:8  When He(Jesus) had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb,


the elders and thousands and thousands of angels around the throne praise Jesus and God:

Rev 5:12  saying with a loud voice, "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing." 
Rev 5:13  And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever." 
Rev 5:14  And the four living creatures kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and worshiped. 

^^ the elders fell down and worshipped before the lamb and God


some of the devil's people would say things like; but the Bible doesn't say that Jesus asked for praise

no, the humble Jesus didn't ask for praise, and the Bible might not say specifically to praise Jesus,
but in God's word He is praised much, and we Christians love to praise Him, like those in heaven do

Jesus is not archangel michael:
John 9:38 And he said, Lord(Jesus), I believe. And he worshipped(proskuneo) him.

^^ Jesus didn’t refuse the worship, and so accepted it


Rev. 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him(an angel). And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship(proskuneo) God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

^^ the angel refused to be worshipped

false jw's say about john 9:38 that he done obeisance to Jesus, not worship
but the greek word for worship in john 9:38 is "proskuneo"
the same greek word as in rev 19:10 where the angel said to worship(proskuneo) God

Before the year 1914 there was no prophet or pastor who claims he wants to perform miracles like Jesus did but after 1914 till today many religious leaders claiming Christians has performed various forms of supernatural signs attributing all to Jesus' name yet they contradicts themselves in teachings and doctrines making Jesus' name like confused religion as observers can't say "this is the religion Jesus is using" Matt 7:21-23

As we saw in Chapter 2 of this book, the Bible Students spent decades pointing out that the year 1914 would be significant in fulfilling Bible prophecy. However, at that time they believed that Christ’s presence had begun in 1874, that he had begun to rule in heaven in 1878, and that the Kingdom would not be fully set up until October 1914. The harvest would extend from 1874 to 1914 and would culminate in the gathering of the anointed to heaven. Do mistaken ideas such as these cast doubt on whether Jesus was guiding those faithful ones by means of holy spirit?

6 Not at all! Think again of our opening illustration. Would the premature ideas and eager questions of the tourists cast doubt on the reliability of their guide? Hardly! Similarly, although God’s people sometimes try to work out details of Jehovah’s purpose before it is time for the holy spirit to guide them to such truths, it is clear that Jesus is leading them. Thus, faithful ones prove willing to be corrected and humbly adjust their views.Jas. 4:6.

cc: Emusan, Oteneaaron, Courz, FxMasterz

To see how they love to project their failures and failings on others is captured below....

Would the premature ideas and eager questions of the tourists cast doubt on the reliability of their guide? Hardly

What does the premature ideas and eager questions asked by the tourist have to do with an experienced guide in a zoo guiding the tourist to having a safe and enjoyable tour?

Someone is now saying Jesus began ruling in 1914 and that last day began in 1914

God’s people(Governing Body) sometimes try to work out details of Jehovah’s purpose before it is time for the holy spirit to guide them to such truths, it is clear that Jesus is leading them.

They do things without the guidance of holy spirit and what they call truth during those times are not the truth since the holy spirit didn't guide them into it.

Compare and contrast how they speak from both side of their mouth highlighted in the bold.

Those to whom Jesus Christ has entrusted “all his belongings” are described in God’s Word as “faithful and discreet.” (Matthew 24:45-47) They do not immodestly run ahead of Jehovah on an impulsive whim; nor do they lag behind when God’s direction in a matter is clear.They know when it is time to speak and when it is time to wait silently for further clarification. All Christians do well not only to imitate their faith but also to prove themselves discreet, as the slave class does.​—Hebrews 13:7.

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As we saw in Chapter 2 of this book, the Bible Students spent decades pointing out that the year 1914 would be significant in fulfilling Bible prophecy. However, at that time they believed that Christ’s presence had begun in 1874, that he had begun to rule in heaven in 1878, and that the Kingdom would not be fully set up until October 1914. The harvest would extend from 1874 to 1914 and would culminate in the gathering of the anointed to heaven. Do mistaken ideas such as these cast doubt on whether Jesus was guiding those faithful ones by means of holy spirit?

6 Not at all! Think again of our opening illustration. Would the premature ideas and eager questions of the tourists cast doubt on the reliability of their guide? Hardly! Similarly, although God’s people(aka Governing Body) sometimes try to work out details of Jehovah’s purpose before it is time for the holy spirit to guide them to such truths, it is clear that Jesus is leading them. Thus, faithful ones prove willing to be corrected and humbly adjust their views.​—Jas. 4:6.

Emphasis on the bold part.

cc: Emusan, FxMasterz, Oteneaaron, Courz

achorladey:
Compare and contrast how they speak from both side of their mouth highlighted in the bold.





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Emphasis on the bold part.

cc: Emusan, FxMasterz, Oteneaaron, Courz

Hahaha.

...although God’s people (aka Governing Body) sometimes try to work out details of Jehovah’s purpose before it is time for the holy spirit to guide them to such truths, it is clear that Jesus is leading them.

"They do try to work out details before the Holy Spirit guides them, yet it is clear that Jesus is leading them." Chai!

From the year 1914 the count down began!

achorladey:


cc: Emusan, Oteneaaron, Courz, FxMasterz

To see how they love to project their failures and failings on others is captured below....



What does the premature ideas and eager questions asked by the tourist have to do with an experienced guide in a zoo guiding the tourist to having a safe and enjoyable tour?

Someone is now saying Jesus began ruling in 1914 and that last day began in 1914



They do things without the guidance of holy spirit and what they call truth during those times are not the truth since the holy spirit didn't guide them into it.

Jesus clearly told the disciples when they were asking Him questions regarding the timing of His Kingdom:

Acts 1:7
"He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority"

Questions:

1. Who gave the authority to the so called 'tourists' (Governing body) to manufacture their own ideas and announce same as that of the Holy Spirit to the whole world?

2. How can the so called tourists who failed many times in prophecies regarding the coming of Christ be accurate about the 'Christ started ruling in 1914' nonsense?

3. Can those who cannot be trusted for the fulfillment of earthly events be trusted for heavenly events?

4. If their earthly calculations about the return of Christ has failed woefully several times, what is the guarantee that their earthly calculations that 'Christ's ruling in heaven starting in 1914' is not a failure too?

5. Would it be wrong to assert that if Christ's coming was not physically verifiable, these people would have maintained that the rapture has indeed taken place, the same way they're arrogantly shouting that Jesus started ruling in 1914 in heaven which is not verifiable?

FxMasterz:
Jesus clearly told the disciples when they were asking Him questions regarding the timing of His Kingdom:

Acts 1:7
"He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority"

Questions:

1. Who gave the authority to the so called 'tourists' (Governing body) to manufacture their own ideas and announce it as that of the Holy Spirit to the whole world?

2. How can the so called tourists who failed many times in prophecies regarding the coming of Christ be accurate about the 'Christ started ruling in 1914' nonsense?

3. Can those who cannot be trusted for the fulfillment of earthly events be trusted for heavenly events?

4. If their earthly calculations about the return of Christ has failed woefully several times, what is the guarantee that their earthly calculations about Christ ruling in heaven starting in 1914 is not a failure too?

5. Would it be wrong to assert that if Christ's coming is not physically verifiable, wouldn't these people have maintained that the rapture has indeed taken place the same way they're arrogantly shouting that Jesus started ruling in 1914 in heaven which is not verifiable?

Looool

The tourist guide can keep projecting his failures and failings on the tourist, It will not remove the fact that they are liars and manipulators.

Would it be wrong to assert that if Christ's coming is not physically verifiable, wouldn't these people have maintained that the rapture has indeed taken place the same way they're arrogantly shouting that Jesus started ruling in 1914 in heaven which is not verifiable?

They do teach that the first resurrection is under way though. I don't know how they come about that. They love to assume and speculate alot as biblical teaching and doctrines

FxMasterz:
Hahaha.


"They do try to work out details before the Holy Spirit guides them, yet it is clear that Jesus is leading them." Chai!

Their own definition of being faithful and discreet they cannot follow and yet want others to follow them.


Their religious leaders look at their subjects and just hammer it down. Obey us with no questions asked even when what we tell you are lies. Obey at all cost to maintain unity.

Jesus visited the earth and started examining all existing religions calling his name in the year 1914!

achorladey:
Compare and contrast how they speak from both side of their mouth highlighted in the bold.

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Emphasis on the bold part.

cc: Emusan, FxMasterz, Oteneaaron, Courz

The best weapon against Watchtower it's her own publications.

Bring different publications from Watchtower together, you will the glaring contradictions, manipulations and twisting of God's word.

achorladey:
Their own definition of being faithful and discreet they cannot follow and yet want others to follow them.


Their religious leaders look at their subjects and just hammer it down. Obey us with no questions asked even when what we tell you are lies. Obey at all cost to maintain unity.

@The bolded, I can't stop laughing.

Unity is more important than Truth.

Emusan:
The best weapon against Watchtower it's her own publications.

Bring different publications from Watchtower together, you will the glaring contradictions, manipulations and twisting of God's word.

After reading diverse publications from them on this forum in recent times, I started having the organization in a very low esteem.

Praise JEHOVAH!
1914 to 1919 he completed the investigation and chose the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses as the Faithful and Discreet Slave he will use to gather obedient mankind and feed them spiritually speaking untill the conclusion of the system of things! Matthew 24:45

FxMasterz:
After reading diverse publications from them on this forum in recent times, I started viewing the organization in a very low esteem.

That is why they have to coin the word NEW LIGHT"

another thing is, you will see them saying multiple time Holy spirit this, Holy spirit that... and the same time, trying to claim THEY WERE NOT INSPIRED!

Holy spirit as made this verse known...

How?

Did you hear a voice? No!
Did you see it in vision? No!
Did you see it through dream? No!
Did Holy spirit appear in any form to do that? No!

So, how did Holy spirit reveal the meaning of this verse then?

Just like their 1914.

"Jesus came to earth in 1914 inspect ALL THE RELIGIONS ON EARTH but couldn't found any but only small group of Bible study students.

Q. Who was with Jesus when Jesus was inspecting all the religions?
A. Nobody!

Q. How did watchtower know that then?
A. I'm very sure Jesus did.

Q. Did Jesus tell Watchtower by Himself?
A. No!

Q. Did Jesus reveal it to Watchtower through dream?
A. No!

Q. Did Jesus reveal it to Watchtower through vision?
A. No!

So, how did Watchtower know that?
Ans: we just know Jesus did.

Emusan:
That is why they have to coin the word NEW LIGHT"

another thing is, you will see them saying multiple time Holy spirit this, Holy spirit that... and the same time, trying to claim THEY WERE NOT INSPIRED!

Holy spirit as made this verse known...

How?

Did you hear a voice? No!
Did you see it in vision? No!
Did you see it through dream? No!
Did Holy spirit appear in any form to do that? No!

So, how did Holy spirit reveal the meaning of this verse then?

Just like their 1914.

"Jesus came to earth in 1914 inspect ALL THE RELIGIONS ON EARTH but couldn't found any but only small group of Bible study students.

Q. Who was with Jesus when Jesus was inspecting all the religions?
A. Nobody!

Q. How did watchtower know that then?
A. I'm very sure Jesus did.

Q. Did Jesus tell Watchtower by Himself?
A. No!

Q. Did Jesus reveal it to Watchtower through dream?
A. No!

Q. Did Jesus reveal it to Watchtower through vision?
A. No!

So, how did Watchtower know that?
Ans: we just know Jesus did.

Chai!

This is too hilarious.

"We just know Jesus did."

Hmmmmmm.

FxMasterz:
@The bolded, I can't stop laughing.

Unity is more important than Truth.

They already attest to it

From 1919 till today the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have gathered millions of friends of PEACE {Luke 10:6} these friends of peace make up the other sheep Jesus promised his spirit anointed disciples {John 10:16} Jesus said they are the NEW EARTH who will swallow up the river that the dragon spewed out from its mouth! Revelations 12:16
Today Satan is enraged at the woman he went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her offspring, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness concerning Jesus:

GOVERNING BODY of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Revelations 12:17

So if you notice religionists from different sects forming alliance despite their usual conflicting doctrines criticize the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses don't be surprised Satan is the one behind such attacks! John 15:19

It all began when Jesus returned in the year 1914!

Emusan:
That is why they have to coin the word NEW LIGHT"

another thing is, you will see them saying multiple time Holy spirit this, Holy spirit that... and the same time, trying to claim THEY WERE NOT INSPIRED!

Holy spirit as made this verse known...

How?

Did you hear a voice? No!
Did you see it in vision? No!
Did you see it through dream? No!
Did Holy spirit appear in any form to do that? No!

So, how did Holy spirit reveal the meaning of this verse then?

Just like their 1914.

"Jesus came to earth in 1914 inspect ALL THE RELIGIONS ON EARTH but couldn't found any but only small group of Bible study students.

Q. Who was with Jesus when Jesus was inspecting all the religions?
A. Nobody!

Q. How did watchtower know that then?
A. I'm very sure Jesus did.

Q. Did Jesus tell Watchtower by Himself?
A. No!

Q. Did Jesus reveal it to Watchtower through dream?
A. No!

Q. Did Jesus reveal it to Watchtower through vision?
A. No!

So, how did Watchtower know that?
Ans: we just know Jesus did.

When any other Christian religious organization use the same format, they start calling them all sorts of names.

FxMasterz:
Chai!

This is too hilarious.

"We just know Jesus did."

Hmmmmmm.

Yes ooo, they just know. No questions asked or you get accused of disrupting peace of the congregation and you get disfellowshiped.

FxMasterz:
After reading diverse publications from them on this forum in recent times, I started having the organization in a very low esteem.

That's why we do tell them that when they see apostasy they won't know it because it must be unity at all cost irrespective of the apostasy

Emusan:
The best weapon against Watchtower it's her own publications.

Bring different publications from Watchtower together, you will the glaring contradictions, manipulations and twisting of God's word.

Loool!

Then, too, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. Many false prophets will arise and mislead many; and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold. But the one who has endured to the end will be saved. And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come! Matthew 24:10-14
PRAISE JEHOVAH!

Jesus said every eye will see him when he shall return, so why did every eye not see him in 1914

The YEAR 1914!

achorladey:
That's why we do tell them that when they see apostasy they won't know it because it must be unity at all cost irrespective of the apostasy

Where unity is more important than Truth, apostasy becomes the order of the day.

What do they even mean by the term New Light? Do the Old and New lights come from the same Bible?

Jesus said the sun and moon shall become dark when he will return, did that happen in 1914? Did the stars fall from heaven?

MaxInDHouse:
The YEAR 1914!

Yea, now i remember! October 1914 right? I remember Russel and his followers going up into heaven.

MaxInDHouse:
The YEAR 1914!

one good thing about you being a jw is that if you had remain in ur former religion, you would be one of those ISIS or BOKO... Something. But what's the different?

After Jesus was crowned in heaven he led his angels against Satan and the demons they beat them and ousted them from heaven so Satan and all his demons came to planet earth furiously waiting for Jesus to see how he's going to gather obedient humans for salvation. Revelations 12:7-10

Satan knows that the next thing Jesus is coming to do is gather the rest of his earthly subjects so to make it difficult for Jesus and his loyal friends that's why Satan began multiplying the religions claiming Christians in all the earth and supporting them with great miraculous works to blur their senses! Matthew 24:11

How easy do you think it will be for innocent people who want to follow Jesus when they see some performing miracles in Jesus name and claiming they're working for Jesus? Matthew 7:21-23

Well all these and many more started in the year 1914 before then it's rare to see anyone performing supernatural signs and attributing to Christ!

FxMasterz:
Where unity is more important than Truth, apostasy becomes the order of the day.

What do they even mean by the term New Light? Do the Old and New lights come from the same Bible?

Old light ........ Excommunication or disfellowshipping members is of pagan origin((false doctrine when Catholics and the rest practised it)

New light......... Excommunication or disfellowshipment is found in the Scriptures(no longer false doctrine since Jehovah's witnesses now practise it)


Old light........ 144,000 = faithful and discreet slave

New light...... only the 9 men housed in USA = faithful and discreet slave


Old light............. Only Those born before 1914 are Generation that will see the end before they die.

New light......... overlapping generation will see the end before they die