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Wallade:
Newsflash, it is not up to Israel to decide the destiny of the Palestinians with respect to becoming a nation in the world.

It is up to the league of nations, the will eventually be a Palestine nation.

Mark my words today.

You and Israelites can fight it but you will not succeed.

Apart from sentiment, especially with religious affiliation, no one will point accusing fingers at Israel. If not for their will power and defense mechanism, Israel is the most attracted country in the world. October 7 Hamas attack was targeted at weakening them, thank God for the defense system.
And if you follow history, Jerusalem is Israeli capital, it was war that took them away for Palestinian to encroach.
You should better use your energy to advise the terrorist nations surrounding them to allow them have peace.

Gbogbowa:
have you ever seen any Palestinian conderming what Hamas did but rather it was celebrated.saying Hamas are not part of Palestinian it's like Saying Boko Haram are not part of Hausa Fulani people.As long as Hamas indirectly work for Iran and Palestinian celebrate them they can't be a nation

The Palestinians have been oppressed, harassed, humiliated, despised and discriminated by Israel for long.

The psychology and mentality of the average Palestinians has become toxic and wired against Israel due to the treatment over the years. The Palestinians have made mistakes and attacked a superior power in the person of Israel and they have been decimated. However, the mentality of hatred, anger and elimination towards Israel remains with them and perhaps will be transferred to future and younger generation.

This is not good for peace, league of nations
and international community. Someone or some people has/have to stop this killings and destruction of lives and properties.

The war between Israelites and Palestinians must be stopped with sustainable peace in focus. How?

The solution is an independent Palestinian nation as we have an independent Israel nation. The respect of international laws, ethics and understanding between the both nations in their relationship with themselves and other nations in the world.

telleyway:
Apart from sentiment, especially with religious affiliation, no one will point accusing fingers at Israel. If not for their will power and defense mechanism, Israel is the most attracted country in the world. October 7 Hamas attack was targeted at weakening them, thank God for the defense system.
And if you follow history, Jerusalem is Israeli capital, it was war that took them away for Palestinian to encroach.
You should better use your energy to advise the terrorist nations surrounding them to allow them have peace.

History indicates that Jerusalem belongs to both Israelis and Palestinians.

You should not misinform the public by saying the Palestinians encroached into Jerusalem.

Israel is also a terrorist nation and are continuously breeding the terrorist within the Israelites and Palestinians and other nations surrounding Israel that you call terrorists.

When Israel kills all the Hamas, even more deadlier terrorists could rise again against Israelites.

Now is the time for nations to rise up and say no to these system that breeds terrorism that is prevailing in the Middle East and stop playing politics with everything including lives and properties.

Wallade:
When two people can't coexist together and their relationship becomes toxic and dangerous.

There must be a dissolution to make peace between them and ultimately for their neighbors and the world.

There must be an independent Palestinian nation with defined territory and opportunity to operate independently within the context of international laws, ethics and understanding.

The senseless killings must stop.

I'm for an independent Palestinian nation whose goal is not to exterminate her neighbor too. If that minimum is agreed upon, then we are on same page...

Wallade:
The Palestinians have been oppressed, harassed, humiliated, despised and discriminated by Israel for long.

The psychology and mentality of the average Palestinians has become toxic and wired against Israel due to the treatment over the years. The Palestinians have made mistakes and attacked a superior power in the person of Israel and they have been decimated. However, the mentality of hatred, anger and elimination towards Israel remains with them and perhaps will be transferred to future and younger generation.

This is not good for peace, league of nations
and international community. Someone or some people has/have to stop this killings and destruction of lives and properties.

The war between Israelites and Palestinians must be stopped with sustainable peace in focus. How?

The solution is an independent Palestinian nation as we have an independent Israel nation. The respect of international laws, ethics and understanding between the both nations in their relationship with themselves and other nations in the world.

You don't know the history of that region well. You said that Israel were the ones harassing the Palestinians.
The Palestinians occupied that land before the present Israel were resettled there from all over Europe in 1948. The Palestinians resisted the resettlement till this day. They started the war against Israel from the first day the first set of people landed.
The attack of 7 October by Hamas was not a mistake as you claim. it has been happening since 1948 and Israel always reacted they way they are doing now.
The Christians do not think that there will be an end to it or peace between them because the Bible prophecize these their hatred for each other.

Wallade:
The Palestinians have been oppressed, harassed, humiliated, despised and discriminated by Israel for long.

The psychology and mentality of the average Palestinians has become toxic and wired against Israel due to the treatment over the years. The Palestinians have made mistakes and attacked a superior power in the person of Israel and they have been decimated. However, the mentality of hatred, anger and elimination towards Israel remains with them and perhaps will be transferred to future and younger generation.

This is not good for peace, league of nations
and international community. Someone or some people has/have to stop this killings and destruction of lives and properties.

The war between Israelites and Palestinians must be stopped with sustainable peace in focus. How?

The solution is an independent Palestinian nation as we have an independent Israel nation. The respect of international laws, ethics and understanding between the both nations in their relationship with themselves and other nations in the world.

You see. This is where we differ. You seem to conclude that it is Israel that made Palestinians Toxic. I beg to remonstrate! That conclusion detaches historical perspective and ongoing sentiment among Palestinians and its partners who believe Israel should not exist (which is still actively pursued). Such argument strengthen the resolve of an "Israeli extremist" that a 2 state solution is a reward for antisemitism,which they resist.
2 state solution is not as difficult as the definition of boundaries and underlying assumption of right of existence of both countries. Those are the underlying sentiments fueling the crisis.

Buccalcavity2:
You see. This is where we differ. You seem to conclude that it is Israel that made Palestinians Toxic. I beg to remonstrate! That conclusion detaches historical perspective and ongoing sentiment among Palestinians and its partners who believe Israel should not exist (which is still actively pursued). Such argument strengthen the resolve of an "Israeli extremist" that a 2 state solution is a reward for antisemitism,which they resist.
2 state solution is not as difficult as the definition of boundaries and underlying assumption of right of existence of both countries. Those are the underlying sentiments fueling the crisis.

2 state solution will not work eventually even if they both Israel and Palestine choose to revisit the case.

The most realistic solution is independent nations with defined territory.

Let there be Palestine country as we have Israel country.

EXPRESSSMAN:
You don't know the history of that region well. You said that Israel were the ones harassing the Palestinians.
The Palestinians occupied that land before the present Israel were resettled there from all over Europe in 1948. The Palestinians resisted the resettlement till this day. They started the war against Israel from the first day the first set of people landed.
The attack of 7 October by Hamas was not a mistake as you claim. it has been happening since 1948 and Israel always reacted they way they are doing now.
The Christians do not think that there will be an end to it or peace between them because the Bible prophecize these their hatred for each other.

How easy do you think it is to yield your land to Israel based on resettlement of Israel back to a land they left for decades?

Those land were owned by Palestinians for decades before Israelites came back based on the effort of some nations to resettle Israelites.

There will be some resistance definitely but they yielded eventually. Israel became a country yet the nations that resettled Israel didn't seem it fit to also allow a Palestine Country. It was either a costly mistake or deliberately done to subject the Palestinians to the Israelites.

However, they are two different people, with different cultures and morals; who may find it difficult to coexist genuinely rather tolerate each other. Now the center can no longer hold, they have to be separated from that unfortunate association which gave Israel control over the Palestinians.

Palestinians desire freedom from the Israelites and they will get it, even if will take 40 or 400 or 4,000 years. The Palestinians must be free.

Buccalcavity2:
I'm for an independent Palestinian nation whose goal is not to exterminate her neighbor too. If that minimum is agreed upon, then we are on same page...

My dear, that is my wish too.

I also think that will help the Palestinians to focus on develop themselves and their abilities rather than concentrating on fighting Israel's oppression which would have ended with their independence.