₦airaland Forum

I standwithGovAliyu, let the liberals win the conservationists and extremists

Draggun:
The Hausas and Fulanis are not the same. They're two different tribes.

Oga,all the emirs are fulanis

Gajagojo:
You are the one that needs to get your facts right, The caliphate was defeated in 1903 by the British and dismantled

It was never restored
Did anyone tell you that the caliphate was only in the borders of Nigeria as we know it today?
The caliphate came into being in 1804 .it did not last a hundred years and is a creation of foreign jihadist elements just like ISWAP
SO what is what preserving about something that is not indigenous
How is it different from the British empire?

Many of you pontificate with zero knowledge

Dismantled indeed. So how do we still have a sultan today.
One of the biggest lies is that the caliphate was started by foreigners. Dan Fodio was born and brought up within the territory called caliphate. His ancestors have stayed there for hundreds of years before he was born
Get your facts right

Ojuntana:
Dismantled indeed. So how do we still have a sultan today.
One of the biggest lies is that the caliphate was started by foreigners. Dan Fodio was born and brought up within the territory called caliphate. His ancestors have stayed there for hundreds of years before he was born
Get your facts right

They had kingdoms in Hausa land
There is nothing anywhere in Africa about where you were born
We operate autochthonously
the Fulani displaced Hausa King's their reign did not last 100 years before the British replaced them
Nigeria is the heir of the British

That is why governors can remove all the figure head rulers

What the Fulani did to Hausa Kings Nigeria has done to Fulani Kings

Melagros:
COMRADES, based on what I was able to decipher, and I won't take side, if the sultan truly invited the said scholar without the knowledge of the governor, the sultan is wrong

Again, if the sultan bragged that he is under the guidance of Islamic law to rule, then the sultan is wrong in this case. As long as Nigerian law is concerned the governor is the chief security officer of the state because Nigeria at the moment is not practicing an Islamic constitution, and there might have been an intelligent report about the said Islamic cleric which the sultan wasn't aware of

If you had spoken like someone who resides in Sokoto or read History as a course, I would have scholarly responded to your comment. But nevertheless, I will forgive your ignorance. It's because you don't know the place of the Sultanate that's why you spoke the way you did. You're forgiven son

HAD3S:
If you had spoken like someone who resides in Sokoto or read History as a course, I would have scholarly responded to your comment. But nevertheless, I will forgive your ignorance. It's because you don't know the place of the Sultanate that's why you spoke the way you did. You're forgiven son

To, na gode

ProudBoy:
https://guardian.ng/after-upsetting-kano-political-tremors-rumble-around-sultan-of-sokoto/

Any chief is under the control of the Commissioner for Local Government and Chieftaincy Affairs. The state governor appoints all chiefs & gives them staff of office. He can hire and fire them as he wants. A certain Sultan of Sokoto Maccido was sacked from office and the heavens didn't fall.

We don't need them because they are a heavy drain on the increasing cost of governance.

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godofuck231:
If he was aware how the federal government went in to Afghanistan to root out this sultan from a dangerous mission he was handling with an emergency and immediate airlift order , to enthronement as the sultan of sokoto, this governor would sit down and plug in his pacifier, and suck with caution.

Are you aware of how Abacha removed the then maccdo? Sultan can be removed. It has happened before. So it is wise they stay neutral always.

Governors should continue to abuse our traditions.

Kama will surely catch up with all of you involved in this hereinous act

GerogeI:
Nigeria is a democracy, every leader leaves office at a fixed tenure. So the so called traditional institutions are monarchies, which can never align with a democratic government.

So you either scrap them or recognised them in the process of unbundling Nigeria into its seperate ethnic groups.

No man is born solely to rule in these modern times.

What's your opinion on king of England?

As a religious leader, don't take side in politics. Be neutral to your subjects all you need do is to advice them religiously .

The same Tambuwal that fought for the removal of Jonathan.

The same Tambuwam that supported BH against Christian existence in the beginning

The same Tambuwal that supported the killing and burning to ashes of Deborah Samuel for mere hate in the name of blasphemy

We are all in this country to recall histories.

He is now deceiving us again that he is now against Tinubu.

Nonsense

The blood of the innocent continues to cry against you and your cohorts

Gajagojo:
They had kingdoms in Hausa land
There is nothing anywhere in Africa about where you were born
We operate autochthonously
the Fulani displaced Hausa King's their reign did not last 100 years before the British replaced them
Nigeria is the heir of the British

That is why governors can remove all the figure head rulers

What the Fulani did to Hausa Kings Nigeria has done to Fulani Kings

Stop writing in the rubbish
You first claimed Fulani are foreigners
Now you suddenly remember nothing about place of birth in Africa
Since you claim Fulani Kings have been replaced, I guess the title of sultan is a British creation and the present occupant has British blood in his veins
Hausa Kings were killed by fulanis
Show me were Nigeria killed Fulani Kings

FatimaAbubakar:
Na small 30k monthly stipend dey make this ogbori dey talk rubbish.

Why are you impersonating that lady on your DP?

Ojuntana:
Stop writing in the rubbish
You first claimed Fulani are foreigners
Now you suddenly remember nothing about place of birth in Africa
Since you claim Fulani Kings have been replaced, I guess the title of sultan is a British creation and the present occupant has British blood in his veins
Hausa Kings were killed by fulanis
Show me were Nigeria killed Fulani Kings

Fulani are foreigners in Nigeria
I did not suddenly remember anything
I merely corrected your ignorant claim about being born in a place

can a Fulani claim to be Igbo or become Oba of Benin because his grandfather was born there
The Fulani took power BY FORCE OF CONQUEST in 1804 not because of where they were born
Just like Boko Haram or ISWAP

Thet established a caliphate that did not last 100 years before rhe British dismantled It
they are a foreign people and the remnants of their defunct caliphate are subordinate to the Nigerian state
The Sultan is subordinate to the Sokoto government

Gajagojo:
Fulani are foreigners in Nigeria
I did not suddenly remember anything
I merely corrected your ignorant claim about being born in a place

can a Fulani claim to be Igbo or become Oba of Benin because his grandfather was born there
The Fulani took power BY FORCE OF CONQUEST in 1804 not because of where they were born
Just like Boko Haram or ISWAP

Thet established a caliphate that did not last 100 years before rhe British dismantled It
they are a foreign people and the remnants of their defunct caliphate are subordinate to the Nigerian state
The Sultan is subordinate to the Sokoto government

In that case, even Yoruba are foreigners because they are believed to have migrated from the Northern part of Africa. Igbos are believed to have migrated from Congo area as well.
Thrones have always been won and lost through force of conquest. Even among tribes and families. The Roman history will teach you more
The Caliphate is a relic of history which still exists. All the emirs till today still get their symbolic staff from sokoto.
The sultan is not subordinate to the state govt. There's no law in Nigeria that says such. That's why Atiku recently canvassed for laws to streamline the operation of traditional institutions and I believe they should be totally extricated from state control

The Sultan must go 😂

Ojuntana:
In that case, even Yoruba are foreigners because they are believed to have migrated from the Northern part of Africa. Igbos are believed to have migrated from Congo area as well.
Thrones have always been won and lost through force of conquest. Even among tribes and families. The Roman history will teach you more
The Caliphate is a relic of history which still exists. All the emirs till today still get their symbolic staff from sokoto.
The sultan is not subordinate to the state govt. There's no law in Nigeria that says such. That's why Atiku recently canvassed for laws to streamline the operation of traditional institutions and I believe they should be totally extricated from state control

You just dey speak big big grammar

The earlier you realise that all traditional rulers in Nigeria are just pawns for the politicians, the better

OwoukoUrua:
You just dey speak big big grammar

The earlier you realise that all traditional rulers in Nigeria are just pawns for the politicians, the better

Eureka!!

Ojuntana:
In that case, even Yoruba are foreigners because they are believed to have migrated from the Northern part of Africa. Igbos are believed to have migrated from Congo area as well.
Thrones have always been won and lost through force of conquest. Even among tribes and families. The Roman history will teach you more
The Caliphate is a relic of history which still exists. All the emirs till today still get their symbolic staff from sokoto.
The sultan is not subordinate to the state govt. There's no law in Nigeria that says such. That's why Atiku recently canvassed for laws to streamline the operation of traditional institutions and I believe they should be totally extricated from state control

beleived? Believed by whom?

I really do not have time for idiotic talk

The caliphate is a very recent phenomenon

It started in 1804 and ended in 1903

That is the reality
It was dismantled in 1903 and replaced by the Nigerian state
The Sultan is a ceremonial figure head in Sokoto state a tiny part of the defunct caliphate
The Sokoto state government is just confirming that reality to him with this legislation
The Nigerian state has already broken up the residues of the Caliphate into several sates and the Sultan was powerless to do anything about it


Today the State government PAYS SALARY to the Sultan

Seun362:
We are tired of the northerners and their shenanigan.
We need to do away with them, it's all about power to them.

Lovenorth, I lie?

Thank God I am not in a circle ⭕. I am in Nigeria

adams123:
What's your opinion on king of England?

Same, it's not a democracy , but a pseudo Monarchy.
For all the noise Britain makes about installing democracy around the world. And it's not even just the King. More than half of the Prime Ministers of Britain are selected by a privileged few, and not voted in through elections, including the current Sunak, and the previously deposed two after Cameron.


And i believe people should choose what they want, be consistent and stick with it. The current arrangement in Nigeria served and continues to serve the interest of Britain without any proper definition. If the North wants Monarchy, thats fine for them, but means separation because the warrant Chiefs called Igwe in the east are British inventions, and have nothing to do with traditions. If Nigeria, should be a democratic single country, all monarchies must be scrapped.

THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE