₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
They were? I found this while searching...
...meaning the power is or was available by way of the state law which I still can't locate for reasons behind me. It seems the dubious lawmakers attempted who lost their seats because they switched parties tried to pull a fast one on the governor but failed.

Villagepipu & Bixton

Caretaker Chairmen is very unconstitutional. That is why everyone incoming governor removes the LGA Chairmen in place even though they were elected because the outgoing governor only did the election of bringing them properly just some few months to the end of his tenure. That has been the practice. Theres hardly any governor who does it right.

You seem not to have followed the issue from the beginning and what led to their social media decamping.

Simple

Alvin212:
Noise from ogbomosho


Good thing is
Your noise ends in ogbomosho

Yes, it's a noise.

We frown at illegalities on one hand, and embrace other illegalities at the other hand.

Typical.

bixton:
■ Caretaker Chairmen is very unconstitutional. That is why everyone incoming governor removes the LGA Chairmen in place even though they were elected because the outgoing governor only did the election of bringing them properly just some few months to the end of his tenure. That has been the practice. Theres hardly any governor who does it right. You seem not to have followed the issue from the beginning and what led to their social media decamping.

▶ The power to install Caretaker Local Government existed in the state laws during the time of Wike as well, and he used it
▶ The lawmakers who decamped from PDP to APC did attempt to deprive the Fubara Government of that same power by amending the laws but ultimately failed in their plot.

So, if the lawmakers themselves acknowledged by their attempt that such a provision is contained in River State Law, what is it that you are trying to argue here?

I have not been able to see the actual law to ascertain whether it is constitutional or not myself but if you had kindly displayed it here so I too can see what you mean when you claim it is unconstitutional.

adioolayi:
∆ It's not about Wike or peculiar to Rivers State..most Governors do this.
And that's my point...they should stop the deliberate illegalities too

Most Governors do it yet it is unconstitutional? How did you go about determining it unconstitutional though. Did you simply read just the national Constitution without equally examining the state level law that bestows the disputed power on the governor in question? I have myself only seen what is contained in the National Constitution but I have not seen the wording of the state level law in the case of , say, River's State to decide if it is in fact unconstitutional or not. Do you by any chance have access to the information that you are able to share?

Kobojunkie:
1. The power to install Caretaker Local Government existed in the state laws during the time of Wike as well, and he used it
2. The lawmakers who decamped from PDP to APC did attempt to deprive the Fubara Government of that same power by amending the laws but ultimately failed in their plot.

So, if the law makers themselves acknowledged by their attempt that such a provision is in fact contained in River State Law, what is it that you are trying to argue here?

I have myself not been able to see the actual law in order to ascertain whether it is constitutional or not myself but if you had kindly display it here so I too can see what you mean when you claim it is unconstitutional.

What does Section 7 of the 1999 Constitution provide for?
Section 7(1) states emphatically that “The system of local government by democratically elected local government councils is under this constitution guaranteed; and accordingly, the government of every state shall subject to section 8 of this constitution, ensure their existence under a Law which provides for the ..
I hope the attached file is found by you. Please do well to read it. That's the closest I can find.

bixton:
∆ What does Section 7 of the 1999 Constitution provide for?
Section 7(1) states emphatically that “The system of local government by democratically elected local government councils is under this constitution guaranteed; and accordingly, the government of every state shall subject to section 8 of this constitution, ensure their existence under a Law which provides for the ..
I hope the attached file is found by you. Please do well to read it. That's the closest I can find.

I read section 7, and then I also read section 8 as well and came to a rethink of what the meaning of the word guaranteed may mean in section 7. That is why I said it would make sense to probably also see what the law makers in states like Rivers have in their books.

Is the attached file by any chance the River"s State Constitution?

Cheadexe:
Tomorrow no if some people start calling for military take over..

We will be hearing trash from different angle, military these military that ..common democracy rules of law some clown politicians won't abide by it.

What a greedy set of people we have in Nigeria.

Is it now the military that obey the rule of law? Yeye submission.

Kobojunkie:
Most Governors do it yet it is unconstitutional? How did you go about determining it unconstitutional though. Did you simply read just the national Constitution without equally examining the state level law that bestows the disputed power on the governor in question? I have myself only seen what is contained in the National Constitution but I have not seen the wording of the state level law in the case of , say, River's State to decide if it is in fact unconstitutional or not. Do you by any chance have access to the information that you are able to share?

Any action that is inconsistent with the provisions of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, either by State or LG is unconstitutional.

https://situationroomng.org/the-constitutionality-or-otherwise-of-local-government-caretaker-committees/

adioolayi:
∆ Any action that is inconsistent with the provisions of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, either by State or LG is unconstitutional.

https://situationroomng.org/the-constitutionality-or-otherwise-of-local-government-caretaker-committees/

I asked you instead of what the River's State Constitution says on this. Knowing that is the only way to be clear on whether it is in fact unconstitutional.

komzy589:
lol 😂 😂 The way you guys make fun of Obi is funny, strange at times and foolish. I’m enjoying it sha because Obi will never be my preferred candidate.

at least you have sense more than some of his supporters, let him not be your candidate oo,it will be good for your sanity.

adioolayi:
I agree...the question is, why should a governor or why do Governors deliberately fail to conduct elections

Why

1. They dip their hands in the LG allocated funds.
2. They appoint their core loyalists to run shows in the LGs.
3. They maintain absolute grassroot supports when they control the LGs

Note: When you hear Wike shout about his structures, it's actually the grassroot supports, being manned by the LG Chairmen, that's why Fubara refused to conduct LG elections so he can rip out Wike's men and stamp his authority on the grassroots, through the Local govt councils, it's politics, and every politician would do the same.

Kobojunkie:
They were? I found this while searching.
...meaning the power is or was available by way of the state law which I still can't locate for reasons behind me. It seems the dubious lawmakers attempted who lost their seats because they switched parties tried to pull a fast one on the governor but failed.

Villagepipu & Bixton

Yes, Samuel Nwanosike the most vocal of them all, did 1 year as caretaker chairman and has done 2 tenures of 3yrs each, amounting to 7yrs as Ikwerre LG Chairman, yet he still needs extension.

Obarilomate Ollor of Eleme LG, did 1 year as caretaker Chairman and 3 yrs as elected chairman, he was billed to go for 2nd tenure if not for this their problems,
and some other ones I can't remember their names in the riverine areas, most of the outgone chairmen did 1yr as caretaker under Wike, b4 being elected.

The issue is not about the former chairmen not wanting to go home, it's solely about who controls the soul of the grassroot supports, which is found only in the Local govt systems, as foot soldiers.

It's purely politics, and the odds favour Sim Fubara as the Executive Governor of Rivers State.

Kobojunkie:
I asked you instead of what the River's State Constitution says on this. Knowing that is the only way to be clear on whether it is in fact unconstitutional.

So you are saying those Muslims who kill those who they claim to blaspheme Mohammed are in the right because they acted out of the Sharia Constitution in their States and because it's a State law and constitution, it supercedes the law and constitution of the FRN?
Is that what you're saying?

celestineteryim:
at least you have sense more than some of his supporters, let him not be your candidate oo,it will be good for your sanity.

Yes, but if you have to criticize him, at least do it with sense. Not all this nonsense some of you are spewing.
For me, I never liked his desperation and disloyalty towards his former political parties.

adioolayi:
Then conduct elections before such tenure expires!!!

FGN mobilises INEC for elections, and they are somewhat independent, well funded to act as at when due.

State Government should do same for state electoral commissions...fund them adequately for them to conduct elections as at when due.

You can't say it's constitutional on one hand and you refused to give the SIEC the needed fund to conduct elections ..while at the same time appointing caretaker chairmen. These are also unconstitutional.

Wether dey conduct elect ir not dies not stop tenure expiration..After ur tenure expire tge givt will manage dey vacancies either by careraker etc
Not u chaurman of LG guving govt condition on how it willbe abd decuding ur own fate .

Even sa gov wike cannot extend tenyre by 30mins talkless of lg chairman

When their tenure expires they will go so that the governors will appoint caretaker which is illegal

Kobojunkie:
I asked you instead of what the River's State Constitution says on this. Knowing that is the only way to be clear on whether it is in fact unconstitutional.

I have just told you, it doesn't matter what it says...if it's not consistent with 1999 constitution, it's unconstitutional.
As simple as that.

The Governor setting up a caretaker committee to oversee the affairs of local government, irrespective of whatever led to this action, is unconstitutional.

Not only in Rivers State...any State in Nigeria , where you have caretaker chairmen is unconstitutional

adioolayi:
■ I have just told you, it doesn't matter what it says...if it's not consistent with 1999 constitution, it's unconstitutional. As simple as that. The Governor setting up a caretaker committee to oversee the affairs of local government, irrespective of whatever led to this action, is unconstitutional. Not only in Rivers State...any State in Nigeria , where you have caretaker chairmen is unconstitutional

Oh, it matters when you consider that both section 7 and section 8 are contained right in the National Constitution.

bixton:
■ So you are saying those Muslims who kill those who they claim to blaspheme Mohammed are in the right because they acted out of the Sharia Constitution in their States and because it's a State law and constitution, it supercedes the law and constitution of the FRN?
Is that what you're saying?

Huh? What in the world are you going on about now?

eteba:
■ Yes, Samuel Nwanosike the most vocal of them all, did 1 year as caretaker chairman and has done 2 tenures of 3yrs each, amounting to 7yrs as Ikwerre LG Chairman, yet he still needs extension.
Obarilomate Ollor of Eleme LG, did 1 year as caretaker Chairman and 3 yrs as elected chairman, he was billed to go for 2nd tenure if not for this their problems, and some other ones I can't remember their names in the riverine areas, most of the outgone chairmen did 1yr as caretaker under Wike, b4 being elected.
The issue is not about the former chairmen not wanting to go home, it's solely about who controls the soul of the grassroot supports, which is found only in the Local govt systems, as foot soldiers. It's purely politics, and the odds favour Sim Fubara as the Executive Governor of Rivers State.

I know it is politics for sure. The problem is the people of River's State may have even had their constitutional right violated in all of this by their own local government councilmen as well as their governors. This revelation ought to have the people wanting answers not just from the LG officers but their lawmakers, past and present.

Yankee101:
It’s that simple
Don’t know why rivers should be different

It's different because PAT/APC has interest to turn the state into chaos

Kobojunkie:
I know it is politics for sure. The problem is the people of River's State may have even had their constitutional right violated in all of this by their own local government councilmen as well as their governors. This revelation ought to have the people wanting answers not just from the LG officers but their lawmakers, past and present.

I agree with you, but the people in this context have been grossly impoverished, so they're just following who's on the throne, now the gov, sadly so.

komzy589:
lol 😂 😂 The way you guys make fun of Obi is funny, strange at times and foolish. I’m enjoying it sha because Obi will never be my preferred candidate.

As if your useless preferences matters.

WHO KNOW U

ZOMBIE

eteba:
I agree with you, but the people in this context have been grossly impoverished, so they're just following who's on the throne, now the gov, sadly so.

Doing nothing will not change this situation at all; it is bound to get worse, not better!

bixton:
Now let's just say if he bolded was to happen, this same people taking stand with the governors would be crying and shouting of abuse of power and failure in democracy.

Zombie.

Logic is far from you ppls brain.

Nigerian governors. Smh. Look at the people talking about the constitution. These are the same people violating it with the appointment of illegal caretaker chairmen. Clowns.

BondRiv:
Nigerian governors. Smh. Look at the people talking about the constitution. These are the same people violating it with the appointment of illegal caretaker chairmen. Clowns.

Have You ever read the River's State Constitution to determine it in fact unconstitutional?

Kobojunkie:
Have You ever read the River's State Constitution to determine it in fact unconstitutional?

There is only one constitution in Nigeria. Perhaps you mean law. It doesn't matter because any law inconsistent with the constitution is null and void, to the extent of its inconsistency. The Nigerian constitution does not recognize caretaker chairmen.

BondRiv:
∆ There is only one constitution in Nigeria. Perhaps you mean law. It doesn't matter because any law made in conflict with the constitution is null and void. The Nigerian constitution does not recognize caretaker chairmen.

There is a National Constitution that supersedes all other, yes. But the National Constitution, section 8 in particular, which kind of undermines the guaranteed claim used in section 7. So, definitely, the State Constitution needs to be examined in this case.

Kobojunkie:
There is a National Constitution that supersedes all other, yes. But the National Constitution, section 8 in particular, which kind of undermines the guaranteed claim used in section 7. So, definitely, the State Constitution needs to be examined in this case.

There is no state constitution. Get that simple fact into your head. The constitution cannot give powers that will undermine it. Any law contravening it is void. Simple.