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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:53am On Jun 28, 2024
sainttwist1:
international history.....yes
international relations.....no
Knowing history is even more important in this scenario. That is why in most universities in Nigeria the two are combined. Historical knowledge is not something you acquire on social media platforms.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:59am On Jun 28, 2024
Taliban must be doing something right.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 9:03am On Jun 28, 2024
Over 23billion dollars just within the first four months of the year. Obviously, the Western isolation of Russia has failed massively

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Crixus13: 9:12am On Jun 28, 2024
DystopianMuse:
Librate them from western imperialism but bring them to Russia colonialism. What a clownish old fool
Lavrov. You are fool please
Retard
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 9:15am On Jun 28, 2024
so I made a post about the analogy about the different ideologies between the USA and China, I made a simple comparisons of the USA being tag a "bully' by some here and while China who is apparently a "bully" especially in its sphere of influence Asia is loved by some here

and a clown trying to buress his points is telling us that China has reasons to be a "bully" because of wars they lost in the qing dynasty. dose that even make sense, is China the first nation to suffer humiliation on the battle field

Also he foolishy used ancients maps as an excuse to trample on countries rights and sovereignty, if we were to be using historical maps to adjudged countries boundaries, then the present British government would claim a large part of present day Europe

lastly the clown said China is open for negotiations, On July 12, 2016, the arbitral tribunal adjudicating the Philippines' case against China in the South China Sea ruled overwhelmingly in favor of the Philippines, determining that major elements of China's claim—including its nine-dash line, recent land reclamation activities, and other activities in Philippine waters are illegal and allocated those territories to the Philippines, yet even after the ruling China still continue to build and militarized those islands, yet one airhead is saying China is open for negotiations.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 9:19am On Jun 28, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Taliban must be doing something right.
can you move to Afghanistan?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 9:20am On Jun 28, 2024
Time tested partner cool

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 9:27am On Jun 28, 2024
StudyBarn:
This ignorant screed by our resident doofus has no basis in politics nor even reality, how can you claim to be wizened in international relations yet spill this bland shït lacking any form of intellectual rigor.

China has it's beef dating back to the Qing dynasty and the humiliation of China in the first, second opium wars and the treaty of Nanjing, they had a direct confrontation with the west during the Korean War.
We can also discuss China's maritime claims owing to littoral maps of the Ming Dynasty and the nine dash line in the South China sea. The claims are outrageous and contested under international laws and China has stated it is open to negotiations. I maintain that negotiations would have been possible but for American meddling

Iran's modern beef with the west predates the establishment of the State of Israel to the Persian Constitutional revolution of 1905, the resource rape of Iran by American and British IOC's under the shah , the undisguised support of the west for Saddam Hussein during the Iraq-Iran war that killed close to a million Iranians.

Russia's beef with the west is more thoroughly documented on this thread, we can debate the legitimacy of the claims not it's outlines

To claim Iran's beef is just purely Israel's extinction and Russia's is hatred is an illiterate and unsophisticated view of history and is unbefitting for anyone making laying claim to political literacy of any sort.

Your writing is lacking in erudition and coherence which begs a few questions. Do you have a basic education? Have you ever read a book? from whence cometh the gumption to describe yourself as "smart" ?
technically Yiu took him to cleaners
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 9:31am On Jun 28, 2024
StudyBarn:
This ignorant screed by our resident doofus has no basis in politics nor even reality, how can you claim to be wizened in international relations yet spill this bland shït lacking any form of intellectual rigor.

China has it's beef dating back to the Qing dynasty and the humiliation of China in the first, second opium wars and the treaty of Nanjing, they had a direct confrontation with the west during the Korean War.
We can also discuss China's maritime claims owing to littoral maps of the Ming Dynasty and the nine dash line in the South China sea. The claims are outrageous and contested under international laws and China has stated it is open to negotiations. I maintain that negotiations would have been possible but for American meddling

Iran's modern beef with the west predates the establishment of the State of Israel to the Persian Constitutional revolution of 1905, the resource rape of Iran by American and British IOC's under the shah , the undisguised support of the west for Saddam Hussein during the Iraq-Iran war that killed close to a million Iranians.

Russia's beef with the west is more thoroughly documented on this thread, we can debate the legitimacy of the claims not it's outlines

To claim Iran's beef is just purely Israel's extinction and Russia's is hatred is an illiterate and unsophisticated view of history and is unbefitting for anyone making laying claim to political literacy of any sort.

Your writing is lacking in erudition and coherence which begs a few questions. Do you have a basic education? Have you ever read a book? from whence cometh the gumption to describe yourself as "smart" ?
I agree with you on everything except your take on Iran. Iran during the Pahlavi monarchy was a secular state allies with the US, UK The west Most of its Arab neighbors it was especially on good terms with Israel it was prosperous although the monarchy were corrupt. It was the Islamic ideology brought by Khomeini that destroyed everything it hates the west because of the freedom they enjoy hates israel because israel is supposed to be in the hands of Muslims and basically the Quran tells them to kill Jews or thats how they interpret it. ( they call Jerusalem Al Kuds ) one of the reasons why Saddam Hussein invade Iran was to make sure they don't import that ideology into Iraq plus he wanted some lands. That ideology made Iran lose all its Arab and western allies The only countries that supported and sent it aid were Russia, China, and North Korea for the reason that it hates the west. One country that sent it aid during this war was also Israel, (the same israel that Iran Now have vowed to destroy) because the very cordial relationship they had with Iran during the Pahlavi monarchy.

Iran used to be the religious head quarters of Zoroastrianism, Ba'ha Religion they had Christians and other religions the first two were founded in Iran by Persians now their head quarters are in Israel.

Women had a good representation in government that isn't the case today.

Forget all that my point is Iran hates the west because of the Islamic ideology it has hates country's like Saudi Arabia and Jordan because they don't allow that type of Islam. Hate israel because why they are Jews. Historically the Jews love the Persians Cyrus released the Jews from exile in Babylon another Persian king gave they permission to build Jerusalem.

Another married a Jewish woman then gave permission for Jews to be killed they gave the Jews permission to fight back when he discovered his wife is a Jew.

Because of the Islamic ideology Iran made proxies to fight jihad for them against people they hate. Hamas Hezbollah and many more militias in Yemen, Iraq, Syria.

Two events that destabilize the Middle East one the formation of the state of Israel every Muslim and Arab were mad about this Arabs were united to destroy isreal in the first Israeli Arab war. After losing a couple of times most of them normalised relationship with Israel including Lebanon Jordan Egypt Saudi Arabia and many more the Middle East was becoming peaceful until the Iranian revolution and that to me is the second event that destabilize the Middle East.


Iran is just the Taliban but with steeze.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 9:31am On Jun 28, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Knowing history is even more important in this scenario. That is why in most universities in Nigeria the two are combined. Historical knowledge is not something you acquire on social media platforms.
yes, knowledge is very important but relating very well with others too. we can engage each other in constructive arguments without insulting, name calling or shaming......just saying
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m): 9:43am On Jun 28, 2024
Jesus Christ
The debate between Trump and Biden was bad.
Biden needs to retire ooh, it’s was really really bad.
Whosoever is pushing Biden needs to be flog, more than 50% of what he said was different from the questions and realities

Biden even said Russia wants to attack Belarus? As same Belarus, that is Russia ally
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 9:52am On Jun 28, 2024
Vl3ly:
🚨🚨 BREAKING – Algerian authorities have confirmed a massive deployment of Libyan troops on their border

“Give back our land, or we will take it by force”, the Libyan army issues an
ultimatum to Algeria.
Libya that is yet to be stable is still dipping her hands in another war.
Misplaced priority as if they will even develop the land they want to fight for and shed many bloods like western countries. No, it will be another shit hole to loot the resources
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 9:54am On Jun 28, 2024
Vl3ly:
🇺🇳🇪🇹🇸🇴⚡- United Nations urges restraint, urging both Ethiopia and Somalia to resolve their differences in a peaceful manner.
Na WA oooo

Grudges between countries everywhere
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40:
also made a comparison between Iran and Russia. I wonder how someone would support
Russia and iran as both Nations have different ideas ideology
.

a Russia state who wants a multipolar world, right from the hay days of the cold war it has always been a fight to outwit each other in the war for influence, trying to sale each other style of government, democracy vs communism, capitalism vs socialism
"influence" has always been the battle line between the USA and Russia, both supported each other's enemies when they went to war "USA war in Vietnam and the Soviet union war in Afghanistan, the battle has always been to reduce ecah other influence nothing more than that


the forgien diplomacy of the Iranian state, has always been anti Jewish,anti West rhetoric for years since the shite sect took power in Iran, that has been the totality of Iran Forgien policy, a retard doesn't know thet during the Iran Iraq war both the Soviet and USA supported both side, infact the Soviet union was a major backer of the Iraqi government.
The Iran-iraqi war isn't the reason for Iran hatred towards Isreal, and the usa, it's simply anti Jewish sentiments period


I wasn't asking for the reasons why Iran hates the USA, i was asking why would someone support Russia and also support Iran as both Nations have two distinct ideology's
Russia would never armed terrorist group to start firing missiles at international shipping lanes, that has never been the style and diplomacy of Russia
.

in conclusions the reason why someone would support a certain Russia, who wants a multipolar world, and also want an alternative to the USA dominance of the world space, and also support an Iranian state who back's, finance, supports, and armed terrorist group, and support the firing of missiles into international shipping lanes is simply because he is ANTI AMERICA
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 9:57am On Jun 28, 2024
⚡ China says the world must admit that the Yemenis deserve to be among the top 10 most powerful military countries in the world.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:03am On Jun 28, 2024
WrriterNg:
⚡ China says the world must admit that the Yemenis deserve to be among the top 10 most powerful military countries in the world.
I concur💯🔥💥💥🔥☑️☑️
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 10:05am On Jun 28, 2024
LordAdam16:
Do you think the Ukrainian lines are in any danger of organically collapsing within the next one year?
I don't mean being pushed back (which is happening in some sectors) but a full-blown rout.
If your answer is no, then they can keep feeding the meat grinder.

Z will get a longer runway if Biden wins re-election.
If Trump returns, he'd have six months tops and be in grave personal danger.
The settlement statement is him putting up a contingency plan if the latter were to happen.

You have to cover your bases when you're responsible for pushing more than 1.5m of your countrymen to their deaths in an unwinnable war that ends with the same terms you flat out refused prior to the war and permanent loss of some of the most valuable real estate in the country.
In pre-1946 Japan, he'd be counting the days until he has to perform seppuku alongside his wife and top advisors.

-Lord
grin grin grin grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:10am On Jun 28, 2024
Russian 🇷🇺 artillerymen want America to be great again

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 10:21am On Jun 28, 2024
WrriterNg:
⚡ China says the world must admit that the Yemenis deserve to be among the top 10 most powerful military countries in the world.
source

Sainttwist1 another one
😂
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 10:32am On Jun 28, 2024
Obedience40:
source

Sainttwist1 another one
😂
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy


source,........... "someone on X/telegram say so"
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by StudyBarn: 10:34am On Jun 28, 2024
obedience4:
so I made a post about the analogy about the different ideologies between the USA and China, I made a simple comparisons of the USA being tag a "bully' by some here and while China who is apparently a "bully" especially in its sphere of influence Asia is loved by some here

and a clown trying to buress his points is telling us that China has reasons to be a "bully" because of wars they lost in the qing dynasty. dose that even make sense, is China the first nation to suffer humiliation on the battle field

Also he foolishy used ancients maps as an excuse to trample on countries rights and sovereignty, if we were to be using historical maps to adjudged countries boundaries, then the present British government would claim a large part of present day Europe

lastly the clown said China is open for negotiations, On July 12, 2016, the arbitral tribunal adjudicating the Philippines' case against China in the South China Sea ruled overwhelmingly in favor of the Philippines, determining that major elements of China's claim—including its nine-dash line, recent land reclamation activities, and other activities in Philippine waters are illegal and allocated those territories to the Philippines, yet even after the ruling China still continue to build and militarized those islands, yet one airhead is saying China is open for negotiations.
We have established beyond reasonable doubt that you are fucking dunce, whose intelligence (I'm being very generous here) is in the fucking toilet. Again I will proceed to address your unread, pedestrian and illiterate claims. I am not trying to 'buress' any point you unthinking celestial mistake. You are a pure idiot, an idiot worth suffocating in his crib if we operated true darwinism .

China did not only lose the opium wars you baseborn fool, it was a massacre and China was forced to allow opium( a drug that is in active base for pure heroin) to be sold openly without regulations to his people turning several generations into hopeless addicts, it was also forced to pay inflated reparations on onerous terms by the treaty of Nanjing.

I also said rightly that the nine dash line from Ming era maps form the basis of Chinese maritime claims in the South China sea, I also indicated that those claims are not only outrageous but are contested by several other countries. The ICJ has ruled by China does not recognize it's ruling and has maintained that the claims can only be resolved through bilateral negotiations between claimants.

China is militarizing atolls and fortifying island chains in anticipation for the Pacific war in Taiwan which according to China the US and its allies is goading it into. At it's closest Philippines a treaty ally of the US where the US operates naval bases is 200km from Taiwan. China is trying not to be hemmed in by an expeditionary power, I'd leave the morality debate for others.

You are plainly ignorant be you offer any further nonsense opinion, read a fucking book and understand , You won't die.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:36am On Jun 28, 2024
These guys are talking like a poorly programmed robot.

Biden.. >Putin want to invade NATO

Netanyahu > Iran will invade Saudi Arabia

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 10:39am On Jun 28, 2024
WrriterNg:
⚡ China says the world must admit that the Yemenis deserve to be among the top 10 most powerful military countries in the world.
even hamas military and Ukraine military
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Tiopii: 10:40am On Jun 28, 2024
Elvictor:
Is Nigeria rich?
Yes
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Elvictor: 10:49am On Jun 28, 2024
Tiopii:
Yes
How is Nigeria rich?
In what indices makes it a rich country?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40:
was China the only country to suffer mass causalities in a war, the Jewish people suffered.
More than 6million died during the holocaust many of them died in terrifying circumstances.

how does China civilian deaths, or the way they died translate/justify trampling on people's sovereignty and rights.

you have a brain of a child, so if China is anticipating a war, should they start building military installations on people's territories, underwhelming the sovereignty of Nations.

all am trying to point out is simply this, the USA is called a "bully" that's fine, but why support a China who is currently doing same in Asia, no day pases when you don't see China naval coastal guards harassing Philippines fishermen in their own territorial waters.

am done with you boy, you can go arrange exams for your clients.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Elvictor: 10:59am On Jun 28, 2024
Obedience40:
also made a comparison between Iran and Russia. I wonder how someone would support
Russia and iran as both Nations have different ideas ideology
.

a Russia state who wants a multipolar world, right from the hay days of the cold war it has always been a fight to outwit each other in the war for influence, trying to sale each other style of government, democracy vs communism, capitalism vs socialism
"influence" has always been the battle line between the USA and Russia, both supported each other's enemies when they went to war "USA war in Vietnam and the Soviet union war in Afghanistan, the battle has always been to reduce ecah other influence nothing more than that


the forgien diplomacy of the Iranian state, has always been anti Jewish,anti West rhetoric for years since the shite sect took power in Iran, that has been the totality of Iran Forgien policy, a retard doesn't know thet during the Iran Iraq war both the Soviet and USA supported both side, infact the Soviet union was a major backer of the Iraqi government.
The Iran-iraqi war isn't the reason for Iran hatred towards Isreal, and the usa, it's simply anti Jewish sentiments period


I wasn't asking for the reasons why Iran hates the USA, i was asking why would someone support Russia and also support Iran as both Nations have two distinct ideology's
Russia would never armed terrorist group to start firing missiles at international shipping lanes, that has never been the style and diplomacy of Russia
.

in conclusions the reason why someone would support a certain Russia, who wants a multipolar world, and also want an alternative to the USA dominance of the world space, and also support an Iranian state who back's, supports, finance, supports, and armed terrorist group, and support the firing of missiles into international shipping lanes is simply because he is ANTI AMERICA
Dullard.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Dvdpity: 11:17am On Jun 28, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Russian 🇷🇺 artillerymen want America to be great again
This artillery man must be from USA... precisely TAXAS!
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 11:19am On Jun 28, 2024
WrriterNg:
⚡ China says the world must admit that the Yemenis deserve to be among the top 10 most powerful military countries in the world.
wowwwww
Houthi to the world

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by StudyBarn:
Obedience40:
was China the only country to suffer mass causalities in a war, the Jewish people suffered
More than 6million death during the holocaust many of them died in terrifying circumstances
.

how does China civilian deaths, or the way they died translate/justify to trampling on people's sovereignty and rights.

you have a brain of a child, so if China is anticipating a war, should they start building military installations on people's territories, underwhelming the sovereignty of Nations.

all am trying to point out is simply this, the USA is called a "bully" that's fine, but why support a China who is currently doing same in Asia, no day pases when you don't see China naval coastal guards harassing Philippines fishermen in their own territorial waters.

am done with you boy, you can go arrange exams for your clients.
Very few folks can match you in sheer dumbness on this side of the existential veil, not only is your grammar and spelling atrocious, the shit that comes out of your brain and how multiple incoherent thought collide in that demented gray matter of yours ls is a wonder to behold . I am done discussing facts and policy with you, your brain is incapable of comprehending them.

You might benefit from certain introductory classes in history and grammar from special education instructors. I certainly ain't going to teach your illiterate ass.


Donkey! grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 11:33am On Jun 28, 2024
StudyBarn:
Very few folks can match you in sheer dumbness on this side of the existential veil, not only is your grammar and spelling atrocious, the shit that comes out of your brain and how multiple incoherent thought collide in that demented gray matter of your ls is a wonder to behold . I am done discussing facts and policy with you, your brain is incapable of comprehending them.

You might benefit from certain introductory classes in history and grammar from special education instructors. I certainly ain't going to teach your illiterate ass.


Donkey! grin
and it comes to an end, as expected with insults.

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