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Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 2:25pm On Jul 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Where is it written in the scriptures that once you become a Christian you must not discuss with people outside Christianity? smiley
Is it him you should be asking that question or your gods in Warwick?

Remember you created a thread on this forum about that, so which scripture did your gods in Warwick followed before issue that instruction which you welcome wholeheartedly to the extend of creating a thread warning your fellow jws?

You can see how you keep proofing people right.
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:29pm On Jul 02, 2024
FxMasterz:
So, you don't believe that if any man be in Christ, old things are passed away?

If you hold the words of men in higher esteem than the Words of God, are you still not an unbeliever?
The highlighted is really amusing walahi talahi!

Why do love lying to your own soul?

Please are you saying oteneaaron now believe in your Jesus?

Ọmọ all what you're doing here is like stupidity to oteneaaron because he doesn't believe in your Jesus he's just using you.

But if you want to prove me wrong tell him to preach a little bit of what he now believes in your Jesus, walahi talahi i will become Born Again now now if oteneaaron preach Jesus to convince me! cheesy

Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:33pm On Jul 02, 2024
Emusan:
Is it him you should be asking that question or your gods in Warwick?
Now you're coming to your senses!

They are the ones who made gods out of their fellow humans not me i view the Governing Body as leaders who will take the lead in the assignment Jesus gave not as lords over my faith.

That's why they found themselves in this mess claiming they're PHYSICALLY IN MENTALLY OUT of the one and only organization they can relate with! wink
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 4:48pm On Jul 02, 2024
Emusan:
You even forgot that the same hypocrite created a thread on this forum warning his fellow jws to stay away from anything Apostate.

But today, he is going against his own warning which means such person shouldn't be taken serious.

As you can see, he has back with full engagement!

Another thing is, I Emusan I'm not an ex-jws neither have I ever step my foot in any kingdom hall but most jws on this forum use to say I'm an apostate.
Wahala no dey finish as to the bold. grin grin

That military intelligence officer and hypocrisy no be for here. He is even using different standard live on their members here too just like his GODS of men housed in USA
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 4:50pm On Jul 02, 2024
Have you ever seen a madman before?
Do they often admit they are mad?

Well if you have heard a madman speak before you will notice that they will never ever agree that something is wrong with them they knew they're not well dressed like others but one thing they always claim, all mad people will say you shouldn't judge them by their appearance because they are PHYSICALLY IN that appearance but MENTALLY OUT of such situations.

So instead of admitting that they're mad or say they are OK with their appearance they will tell you that they're PHYSICALLY IN MENTALLY OUT of the situation you find them.

Well it may shock you that there are people today who are just like that as they often claim they know they're in a SATANIC RELIGION but instead of getting out of such a religion and joining a better one they will tell you that they are PHYSICALLY IN MENTALLY OUT of what they themselves have declared SATANIC.

Please are they different from INSANES? undecided

Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 4:50pm On Jul 02, 2024
oteneaaron:
Exactly the point.

It is that Hypocrisy that makes them "apostates in disguise".

That is why their greatest nightmare is their online identity exposed.
How many times we go warn them here that when they see APOSTASY they can not identify it grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 4:55pm On Jul 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Where is it written in the scriptures that once you become a Christian you must not discuss with people outside Christianity? smiley

Are we here specifically because of apostates like you?

Well think of the benefits of JWs on Nairaland and not just some instructions that you can't defend with the scriptures.

For instance this is what a Nairalander first said about Jehovah's Witnesses here on this same forum:



But after a brief chat with me this is what he later said:



In fact he could see the off points comments of an apostate who is just trolling with nothing tangible to contribute.



Do you think he now has a different opinion about Jehovah's Witnesses?

Let this sink! wink
See the liar and manipulator using the words to CJStarz to glorify himself. The same CJStarz that said I should allow matter die and let sleeping dogs lie grin grin grin.

The screenshot below is referring to your brother in werey peddlings of which he came back appealing. grin grin grin grin

Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 4:57pm On Jul 02, 2024
FxMasterz:
So, you don't believe that if any man be in Christ, old things are passed away?

If you hold the words of men in higher esteem than the Words of God, are you still not an unbeliever?
I don tell am before truth is not a religious organization or the men that leads such religious organization cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 4:59pm On Jul 02, 2024
Emusan:
Is it him you should be asking that question or your gods in Warwick?

Remember you created a thread on this forum about that, so which scripture did your gods in Warwick followed before issue that instruction which you welcome wholeheartedly to the extend of creating a thread warning your fellow jws?

You can see how you keep proofing people right.
I laugh at some of this their questions. They don't even understand the consequences of such question as it applies to their own predicament. grin

Problem is emanating from him and he is still pointing fingers at others as the source.
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:03pm On Jul 02, 2024
Well before the year 1914 no sane human have ever declared himself to be in a religion PHYSICALLY yet MENTALLY OUT of the same religion.

God's organization has been cleansed so that pure worship of the true God has come to stay but there are some whose parents gave birth to them inside God's organization but just the same way Satan finds it extremely difficult to remain in God's organization {Isaiah 35:8} these ones aren't satisfied with God's arrangement, you can try to imagine where Satan could turn to worship after rebelling against the only true God so instead of going to worship elsewhere he will always come into the gathering of God's spirit sons {Job 1:6} that's exactly what the children of disobedience are doing today {Ephesians 2:2} so just like Satan they will tell you that they are PHYSICALLY IN but MENTALLY OUT of God's organization.

It all started when Jesus began ruling in heaven since 1914! smiley

Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:04pm On Jul 02, 2024
Madness and insanities peddling is seen when an individual who creates a thread that says have nothing to do with those he calls apostates yet every day comes to the same platform of those he call apostates and atheist to advance more madness and insanities peddling of his brains lying and manipulating people as well. grin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 5:24pm On Jul 02, 2024
achorladey:
I laugh at some of this their questions. They don't even understand the consequences of such question as it applies to their own predicament. grin

Problem is emanating from him and he is still pointing fingers at others as the source.
That is because he doesn't think before typing.

You're asking him to provide the scripture that supported Jws avoiding apostate, yet you agreed with your gods in Warwick that apostate should be avoided.

Who should you have asked in the first place?
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:25pm On Jul 02, 2024
The madness and insanities peddling enter over drive when the same person cannot bring evidence of his physical in mentally out accusationsgrin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:31pm On Jul 02, 2024
oteneaaron:
More LIES as usual.

What about Afghanistan, Somalia, Saudi Arabia and North Korea?

😂😂
Make I show you something as he is even lying on the head of his GODS of men housed in USA

However, Jesus also told his disciples that they would not “complete the circuit of the cities,” or preach to everyone, before he would come. (Matt. 10:23; 25:31-33) Jesus’ words will prove to be true in our day as well. Millions of people today live in areas where the preaching work is severely restricted. In addition, hundreds of babies are born every minute. We do our best to reach people from “every nation and tribe and tongue” with the good news. (Rev. 14:6) But the fact is that we will not be able to share the good news with each individual on earth before the end comes.

When Noah heard Jehovah’s warning message, he proved that he had faith by building the ark. (Read Hebrews 11:7; 1 Peter 3:20.) Similarly, people who hear the good news about God’s Kingdom must act on what they hear. (Acts 3:17-20) Peter called Noah “a preacher of righteousness.” (2 Pet. 2:5) However, as discussed in the preceding article, we do not know whether Noah led a preaching campaign to reach everyone living on earth before the Flood. Today we are involved in a global preaching work, and we endeavor to have a zealous share in it. Still, try as we might, we cannot possibly reach everyone on earth with the good news before the end comes. Why not?

Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:35pm On Jul 02, 2024
FxMasterz:
Thanks brother. He wants us to look away whenever he spreads his dangerous nets to catch gullible souls.
He comes to nairaland to expose those he calls false Christians and falsehoods. What he will never do is look away hiding behind sincere and honest hearted ones are following. Apply the same principle as it applies to his religious organization and beliefs you see him lamenting about physically in mentally out grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:38pm On Jul 02, 2024
oteneaaron:
What a perfect statement to showcase the conditional love Jehovah's Witnesses practice!

In JW language,

"remains faithful to Jehovah" = remains faithful to the Organization

Jehovah = The Organization

Always keep this fact in mind when dealing with a JW.

CC: Johnw47, FxMasterz.
The same Aemmyjah can go and tell his relatives not Jehovah's Witnesses they are not faithful to God grin grin grin grin

Let him come back and tell us what difference does it make? grin grin grin Na their type go leave the religious organization and keep mute on nairaland without deactivating their accounts on nairaland grin grin grin


They just go solo and mellow after their eyes don see shege and open say na so lies and manipulations full there
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:39pm On Jul 02, 2024
johnw47:
their org. and their fellow false jw's are their everything
Any of their JWs that switch get discarded
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:40pm On Jul 02, 2024
oteneaaron:
No be by cho cho - show workings!

Show me the data evidence that shows that there are Jehovah's Witnesses in Somalia, Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia!

If you can prove it, then you're nothing but a SHAMELESS LIAR!
Where he want take see am
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:43pm On Jul 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Chai! see spiritual deafness! huh

Well let me expatiate further for the sake of other followers of my thread.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are people who believe in one God and so they're always looking forward to the establishment of one organized religion where they will worship shoulder to shoulder with their fellow worshipers in all the earth. Zephaniah 3:9
So the group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES is for people like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Joshua, Job and so on! Hebrews 11:4-34

Christianity is the group Jesus commissioned to help Jehovah's Witnesses connect with their fellow believers in the same God and line of thought globally! Matthew 28:18-20; Act 1:8

So when i say there are Jehovah's Witnesses in all the earth i'm not referring to Christians who are doing the work of gathering them together rather i'm referring to faithful people who believe in one God and the same line of thought regarding pure worship.

Do you get it now? smiley
grin grin grin grin grin grin

Not everyone is Jehovah’s witness based on terms and conditions of "watchtower aka Jehovah's organization" grin grin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:44pm On Jul 02, 2024
oteneaaron:
This is complete BS - excuse my french.

Jehovah's Witnesses are not even Christians in the first place so what are you yapping about?

Just admit that you LIED and stop beating around the bush.

This is exactly what you said -



SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE TO PROVE WHAT YOU SAID.

I need raw data to prove this LIE.

Stop beating around the bush.
You see him saying there are faithful people that are not Jehovah’s witnesses to lie and manipulate the fact he has no evidence earliergrin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:00pm On Jul 02, 2024
Since the year 1914! smiley
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by FxMasterz: 6:50pm On Jul 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is really amusing walahi talahi!

Why do love lying to your own soul?

Please are you saying oteneaaron now believe in your Jesus?

Ọmọ all what you're doing here is like stupidity to oteneaaron because he doesn't believe in your Jesus he's just using you.

But if you want to prove me wrong tell him to preach a little bit of what he now believes in your Jesus, walahi talahi i will become Born Again now now if oteneaaron preach Jesus to convince me! cheesy
What about the non highlighted?
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:23pm On Jul 02, 2024
FxMasterz:
What about the non highlighted?
How many people did God spoke to directly?

Ọmọ God's word has always been passed from mouth to mouth {Romans 10:15} that's why Jesus commanded his disciples to keep on passing the message! Matthew 28:19-20

What you're calling God's word came to you and i through humans so if you're speaking against humans who are passing messages to their fellow humans what is the assurance that you're not rejecting God's word? smiley
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 12:04am On Jul 03, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Have you ever seen a madman before?
Do they often admit they are mad?
no, you don't

lost false jw mad max
all know you are mad by the things you say and imply
one of your latest implications; "gods are infallible"

you not only mad, you dum as they come, and the nonsense you speak
shows you are also a fool:

Isa_32:6  For a fool speaks nonsense,
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 12:09am On Jul 03, 2024
continue

The 1914 doctrine has changed by necessity, and continued to change in the twenty first century, as it has been falsified by the progression of history. It has progressed from:

The last days started in 1799, ending in 1914.
The last days started in 1914, ending within a single lifetime/generation of those born prior to 1914.
The last days started in 1914, with an unspecified ending, after a period of an "overlapping generation."
The ability of the Watchtower to accurately foretell the meaning of 1914 is a great source of faith for Jehovah's Witnesses, unaware of what Watchtower said prior to 1914. Nothing Russell said about 1914 came to pass. For Russell and early Watchtower followers, the 2nd of October 1914 was expected to be the the conclusion of this system of things.

“Quite a few delegates stayed at Bethel, and, of course, members of the headquarters staff were present at the breakfast table on Friday morning, October 2. Everyone was seated when Brother Russell entered. As usual, he said cheerily, “Good morning, all.” But this particular morning was different. Instead of proceeding promptly to his seat, he clapped his hands and joyfully announced: “The Gentile times have ended; their kings have had their day.” “How we clapped our hands!” exclaims Cora Merrill. Brother Macmillan admitted: “We were highly excited and I would not have been surprised if at that moment we had just started up, that becoming the signal to begin ascending heavenward—but of course there was nothing like that, really.” Sister Merrill adds: “After a brief pause he [Russell] said: ‘Anyone disappointed? I’m not. Everything is moving right on schedule!’ Again we clapped our hands.”” Yearbook 1975 pp.72,73
The expectation was 1914 would see the final end of worldly kingdoms, replaced by God's Kingdom fully established on earth.

"In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99
From the 1911 edition forward, this quote gave an additional year for these events to be fully accomplished, extending to A.D.1915.

The Time is at Hand (1889 ed.) p.99 The Time is at Hand (1911 ed.) p.99 .. (images below)

to be continued

Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op):
Jesus foretold that his disciples will become a light to the world {Matthew 5:14-16} and just as he said in the first century Jesus' Jewish disciples strived to be really effective in doing the job assigned to them but they can't escape the principal enemy of pure worship Satan the devil who began fighting the church using every instrument he could lay his hands on {Revelations 12:17} by the close of the first century apostasy has started gaining grounds among Jesus' disciples {1John 2:18} so after the last surviving apostle John died Satan overshadowed the whole scene with his weeds just as Jesus prophesied {Matthew 13:25-29} that's why people living during that time were said to be in the DARK AGES as faithful people could no longer practice what Jesus commanded again!

This is what continued until the year 1914 when Jesus was crowned in heaven as the King of God's kingdom, that year all the religions on planet earth has gone off course as far as Christianity is concerned none was practicing Christianity in the right sense!

But after 1914 Jesus began the restoration of all things first was what he did in the heavens when he wage war against Satan and his demons {Revelations 12:7-12} next was to take all his anointed brothers who were sleeping in death to heaven {1Thessalonians 4:16-17} they were all taken to heaven in the year 1914 but then what about faithful people on planet earth who are still hoping in God? Jesus came to the earth to restructure his earthly disciples but there was not one single religion practicing what Jesus taught in the first century {Luke 18:8} that's why he began going from one religion to another as they are carrying the books written by his Apostles called the New Testament in their hands Jesus visited all these religions claiming Christians.

Jesus later found a small group called the International Bible Students Association (IBSA) this little group were dedicated to finding out what God's word said about the last days and how to carry out the work Jesus called the will of God {Matthew 7:21} so just as Jesus did in the first century he began working with this little group using God's Holy Spirit to direct them and within just few years Satan discovered that the IBSA is about to return to what he stopped some 18 centuries ago that's how he figured out that Jesus has been around working with this group so he swing into action and got all the leaders of this group arrested and sent to prison but Jesus used his power to free his newly appointed group from spiritual bondage in the year 1919 and from that year till today they have been restoring all what Jesus used his first century Jewish Apostles to established as this group started going throughout the earth to make disciples of people of all the nations baptizing them {Matthew 28:19} teaching/training them to become fishers of men {Mark 1:17} and after 12 years the one and only true God was pleased with this group so He began calling them by an hidden GROUP NAME that neither Satan, his demons nor his human agents ever thought of: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

So today there is no place where people talk about religions that they will not tremble when the name of this group is mentioned.
All these started when Jesus began ruling in heaven in the year 1914! smiley

Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 6:27am On Jul 03, 2024
MaxinDHouse: next was to take all his anointed brothers who were sleeping in death to heaven {1Thessalonians 4:16-17} they were all taken to heaven in the year 1914
if that happened false jw's publications would be full of it

MaxinDHouse: So today there is no place where people talk about religions that they will not tremble when the name of this group is mentioned.
All these started when Jesus began ruling in heaven in the year 1914!
anyone know of someone trembling when the name of mad max group is mentioned, smiley
such delusion, such mental disease
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:37am On Jul 03, 2024
johnw47:
If that happens jw's publications would be full of it.
Ask your friends it's written for whoever wants to know about God's modern day worshipers but what's baffling them all are the detailed explanation i'm giving which they never found in any publications of JWs that's why they're saying i'm lying but whatever i say here they know it's found in the publications of God's modern day servants: Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by FxMasterz: 7:01am On Jul 03, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
How many people did God spoke to directly?

Ọmọ God's word has always been passed from mouth to mouth {Romans 10:15} that's why Jesus commanded his disciples to keep on passing the message! Matthew 28:19-20

What you're calling God's word came to you and i through humans so if you're speaking against humans who are passing messages to their fellow humans what is the assurance that you're not rejecting God's word? smiley
So, you mean, some humans can therefore come and speak some supposed God's words today that are contrary to what God had spoken before?

This is pure deception. Have you observed that the Bible was written over thousands of years with God's words spoken through diverse individuals, and all of them speak in unity without any contradiction? If anyone comes today to speak contradictions, he's a false prophet.
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op):
FxMasterz:
So, you mean, some humans can therefore come and speak some supposed God's words today that are contrary to what God had spoken before?

This is pure deception. Have you observed that the Bible was written over thousands of years with God's words spoken through diverse individuals, and all of them speak in unity without any contradiction? If anyone comes today to speak contradictions, he's a false prophet.
That's what millions of Jews in the first century till today are saying about Jesus of Nazareth so if you want to know the truth it's not by comparing the difference between what they say but looking critically at how God's word is undergoing fulfilment in your own time.

That's what helped Jesus' Jewish disciples if they stick to the teachings of the prophets in ancient times they will surely condemn Jesus of Nazareth too!

Take for instance the all the prophets none of them is in support of cannibalism so when Jesus said something that seems like that most of his own disciplesi immediately turned back from following him {John 6:62-66} yet his closest confidants stood with him.
WHY?
They said he's the one and only teacher whose teachings is progressively revealing how mankind can gain everlasting life! John 6:68

So instead of comparing what God's servants some 1,000 years tells you the best thing to do is diligently study the scriptures to find out how the new preacher's activities is in line with prophecies found in the Bible.


That's what Jesus' disciples focused on not the criticism raised by their people and religious leaders! smiley
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by FxMasterz: 9:16am On Jul 03, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
That's what millions of Jews in the first century till today are saying about Jesus of Nazareth so if you want to know the truth it's not by comparing the difference between what they say but looking critically at how God's word is undergoing fulfilment in your own time.

That's what helped Jesus' Jewish disciples if they stick to the teachings of the prophets in ancient times they will surely condemn Jesus of Nazareth too! smiley
My friend, Jesus didn't contradict the scriptures in anyway. He fulfilled them.
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:19am On Jul 03, 2024
FxMasterz:
My friend, Jesus didn't contradict the scriptures in anyway. He fulfilled them.
That's what he said nah but what about his own people did they agree with him? undecided
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