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Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by Slytiger: 3:55pm On Jul 04, 2024
Mrexcell:
Very confused people the funny thing here is the bini kingdom is yet to even recognise them as descendants of bini kingdom.
Bini has pride. They don't go about begging for unity or attachments.

Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by paramakina202: 3:56pm On Jul 04, 2024
The migrants from Bini land will be expelled when the time comes,They did not meet an empty land just 700 years ago when they came the reason they speak Igbo dialect instead of Bini language is a pointer there exist indigenous Igbo population already in the land before their arival.
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by Slytiger: 3:58pm On Jul 04, 2024
paramakina202:
The migrants from Bini land will be expelled when the time comes,They did not meet an empty land just 700 years ago when they came the reason they speak Igbo dialect instead of Bini language is a pointer there exist indigenous Igbo population already in the land before their arival.
Ibos are actually the migrant to alot of those lands.

Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by paramakina202: 3:59pm On Jul 04, 2024
Meanwhile Chibuike Amaechi sent a representative while he is actively participating in Ohanaeze ndi Igbo programs.
He was recently appointed the secretary of Dr Ogbonnaya Onu's burial committee by southeast governors forum.
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by mrvitalis(m): 4:00pm On Jul 04, 2024
Paraman:
Ikwerres have always claimed not to be Igbos. Ikwerres can't be blame if some few Ikwerres choose to be scamming ohaneze
And yet have produced Ohaneze president when it's the turn of rivers igbos

They never allow the other rivers igbos get it
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by Fighttillvictory: 4:01pm On Jul 04, 2024
tell all "we are not Igbo" in eastern nig/Biafra that they are immigrants and need to acknowledge the indigenes
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by Paraman: 4:01pm On Jul 04, 2024
mrvitalis:
And yet have produced Ohaneze president when it's the turn of rivers igbos

They never allow the other rivers igbos get it
They are scamming Igbos. When Igbos wanted to celebrate Igbo day in PH last year, the Ikwerres rejected it
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by paramakina202: 4:01pm On Jul 04, 2024
Slytiger:
Ibos are actually the migrant to alot of those lands.
Igbo are inhabitants of uplands and Ikwerres since history were documented as Igbos both by natives and Europeans.
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by Slytiger: 4:02pm On Jul 04, 2024
paramakina202:
Meanwhile Chibuike Amaechi sent a representative while he is actively participating in Ohanaeze ndi Igbo programs.
He was recently appointed the secretary of Dr Ogbonnaya Onu's burial committee by southeast governors forum.
Even Peter Obi recognizes that Amaechi is not Ibo 😂

Amaechi playing political games by trying to press ibo Mumu button. He is searching for Ibo votes.

Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by Slytiger: 4:03pm On Jul 04, 2024
paramakina202:
Igbo are inhabitants of uplands and Ikwerres since history were documented as Igbos both by natives and Europeans.
Okay. I hear you.
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by paramakina202: 4:06pm On Jul 04, 2024
Meanwhile Ikwerre should not export their identity crisis madness into Abia state.
Ngwa people are one of the oldest and largest clans in Igboland.They are aborigenes of Igboland.
Ikwerre claim they are related with Ngwa,Eche and yet consider this two as different ethnic nationalities.
Very soon they will add Ibeku and Bende as one of their brothers but of course they have nothing to do with Southeast.
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by ZIAZI(m):
LOVEALAIGBO:
You need to give your own ‘monitoring’ a rest too! A lot of Igbo know the anti-Igbo agenda mounted by a vile, insecure and bigoted group against Ndigbo interests from the late 60s to date, and for so long as there are Ikwerre who agree to being Igbo, there are I’ll always be Igbo like me and the brother you quoted who will engage with the 5th-columnists, impostors and misguided Ikwerre who think they can mount a campaign of calumny against us and work against our interests!

If indeed you are Ikwerre, of course you’re entitled to your Stockholm-syndrome inspired anti-Igbo stance! But don’t think you can shut Igbo up who know exactly the game being played on this forum!

I just took a quick look at your recent posts and know exactly what you’re all about! If you are Ikwerre, then you’re cut from the same cloth as the ilk of Wike and other senseless Igbo haters who believe that hating on Ndigbo and taking a anti-Igbo stance on national issues will ingratiate them with their Fulani/Yoruba hegemonic overlords!
In response to your sterile rant above, I'd say that the use of the statement "Stockholm syndrome" doesn't apply.

Why should you force something as serious as identity on a tribe that has effortlessly rejected such?

The unproductive argument that the banter between the Ikwerres and Igbos can be traced back to Gowon is highly delusional! My people rejected the same misconception way back before the Civil War. Talking about the Civil War, do you know you dragged us into a war we didn't envisage? Do you know that Igbos killed us in our numbers? You called us saboteurs and we paid for it with our lives. Your useless Biafran soldiers buried our tribesmen alive!!! Assuming without conceding that we are Igbos, would you do that to your own?

Do you know how many people from minority tribes like the Ikwerres died from Ojukwu's inflated sense of importance and carelessness? Oh! Yes! Or was it not the same Ojukwu that fought against Adaka Boro when the latter sought for a sovereign nation? Let's call what happened to him KARMA! After leading 3 million people comprising of Igbos and other minority tribes to a slaughterhouse, he came back to contest for presidency! No be madness be that?

Oga, I know my history. I am not anti-Igbo. You know, I am partially Igbo because my grandmother is from Imo State and not because I am ikwerre.

Just respect our opinion and move away from the cheap, concocted history you know nothing of!

Again, you think the Igbos as a tribe are superior and you use that flawed conception to see the world as though it revolves around the Igbos. You hate the Yorubas and the Hausa/Fulani people and you think you're better off. No wonder you think our resistance to your constant identity pressure is hinged on the alleged subservient role we play for the other tribes stated above.

I have made my point. Well, you can keep being delusional. It's probably some sort of therapy for your malady.

WE CANNOT BE IGBOS! WE NEVER WERE AND WE WILL NEVER BE!
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by opamoses1: 4:15pm On Jul 04, 2024
ZIAZI:
In response to your sterile rant above, I'd say that the use of the statement "Stockholm syndrome" doesn't apply.

Why should you force something as serious as identity on a tribe that has effortlessly rejected such?

The unproductive argument that the banter between the Ikwerres and Igbos can be traced back to Gowon is highly delusional! My people rejected the same misconception before the Civil War. Talking about the Civil War, do you know you dragged us into a war we didn't envisage? Do you know that Igbos killed us in our numbers? You called us saboteurs and we paid for it with our lives. Your useless Biafran soldiers buried our tribesmen alive!!! Assuming without conceding that we are Igbos, would you do that to your own?

Do you know how many people from minority tribes like the Ikwerres died from Ojukwu's inflated sense of importance and carelessness? Oh! Yes! Or was it not the same Ojukwu that fought against Adaka Boro when the latter sought for a sovereign nation? Let's call what happened to him KARMA! After leading 3 million people comprising of Igbos and other minority tribes to a slaughterhouse, he came back to contest for presidency! No be madness be that?

Oga, I know my history. I am not anti-Igbo. You know, I am partially Igbo because my grandmother is from Imo State and not because I am ikwerre.

Just respect our opinion and move away from the cheap, concocted history you know nothing of!

Again, you think the Igbos as a trube are superior and you use that flawed conception see the world as though it revolves around the Igbos. You hate the Yorubas and the Hausa/Fulani people and you think you're better off. No wonder you think our resistance to your constant identity pressure is hinged on the alleged subservient role we play for the other tribes stated above.

I have made my point. Well, you can keep being delusional. It's probably some sort of therapy for your malady.

WE CANNOT BE IGBOS! WE NEVER WERE AND WE WILL NEVER BE!
One of the best response I have ever seen on Nairaland.

Everything he stated can be easily fact checked.
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by paramakina202:
Slytiger:
Even Peter Obi recognizes that Amaechi is not Ibo 😂

Amaechi playing political games by trying to press ibo Mumu button. He is searching for Ibo votes.
And someone like Peter Obi will remind him of that during election grin
Let face it,have you seen some one from Niger,Ogun,Kogi etc..faking to be Igbo?
You can't fake to be Igbo if actually you are not.It is all about politics of civil war for some Igbos living outside present day southeast.
When they perceive Igbo identity as a disadvantage they will deny it and when they see opportunity they will claim it,that is what Anioma state agitators are doing today.Yesterday there was protest in Asaba by the indigenes they wanted to be part of Southeast development commission they identify with us when they see advantages.
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by ZIAZI(m): 4:26pm On Jul 04, 2024
Fighttillvictory:
tell all "we are not Igbo" in eastern nig/Biafra that they are immigrants and need to acknowledge the indigenes
You own nowhere in Nigeria or aren't you a Jew?
It's funny how your ilk wants others to accept mind-boggling myopic views all the time.

By the way, when are you going back to Israel? Oh! My bad! Israeli scholars have maintained that the Igbo race has no link 🔗 whatsoever to Israel.

So since you love forcing identity on people, answer this question:

WHERE THE PHOCK ARE YOU GUYS FROM?
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by bnanny: 5:44pm On Jul 04, 2024
They want Ikwere because of oil. You guys should rest and manage with what you have.
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by shortgun(m): 6:26pm On Jul 04, 2024
Slytiger:
But ibos were persecuting them because Ibos know that they are not ibos. You people won't even accept abekeleke people as real ibos let alone those that are not even in your region 😂
grin grin grin
If abakaliki people are not Igbos are they Yorubas from Osun.? or Oyo?
I've stayed in Parts of Ondo state occupied by ilaje people, their dielect is different from Yorubas from Oyo and the ones from Lagos.
Does that make ilaje people Igbos from Anambra or Hausas from Bauchi?
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by Raf4: 6:32pm On Jul 04, 2024
mrvitalis:
If ngwa is your brothers that means mbaise is your brothers too because u can't separate ngwa and mbaise ... If mbaise is your brother that means obowo and umuahia is your brother too

If etche is your brothers that means NGO okpala are your brothers too and if that's the case owerri are your brothers too


Left to be Ikwerre would have been put in their place since
They know who their brothers are and they know who aren't. No need for lighting up lanterns, lamps and torchlight to forcefully search for your family/relations.
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by stanluiz(m): 9:38pm On Jul 04, 2024
ZIAZI:
In response to your sterile rant above, I'd say that the use of the statement "Stockholm syndrome" doesn't apply.

Why should you force something as serious as identity on a tribe that has effortlessly rejected such?

The unproductive argument that the banter between the Ikwerres and Igbos can be traced back to Gowon is highly delusional! My people rejected the same misconception way back before the Civil War. Talking about the Civil War, do you know you dragged us into a war we didn't envisage? Do you know that Igbos killed us in our numbers? You called us saboteurs and we paid for it with our lives. Your useless Biafran soldiers buried our tribesmen alive!!! Assuming without conceding that we are Igbos, would you do that to your own?

Do you know how many people from minority tribes like the Ikwerres died from Ojukwu's inflated sense of importance and carelessness? Oh! Yes! Or was it not the same Ojukwu that fought against Adaka Boro when the latter sought for a sovereign nation? Let's call what happened to him KARMA! After leading 3 million people comprising of Igbos and other minority tribes to a slaughterhouse, he came back to contest for presidency! No be madness be that?

Oga, I know my history. I am not anti-Igbo. You know, I am partially Igbo because my grandmother is from Imo State and not because I am ikwerre.

Just respect our opinion and move away from the cheap, concocted history you know nothing of!

Again, you think the Igbos as a tribe are superior and you use that flawed conception to see the world as though it revolves around the Igbos. You hate the Yorubas and the Hausa/Fulani people and you think you're better off. No wonder you think our resistance to your constant identity pressure is hinged on the alleged subservient role we play for the other tribes stated above.

I have made my point. Well, you can keep being delusional. It's probably some sort of therapy for your malady.

WE CANNOT BE IGBOS! WE NEVER WERE AND WE WILL NEVER BE!
We all know that you insignificant minority with 3.4 local government can never and will never be igbo.

Igbos don't need you! You guys are liability to igbo nation! You don't have anything. Human resources, you don't have. Natural resources you don't have. You guys are nothing!

Nnewi alone has more people and is more richer than your 3.4 local government.

You insignificant minority should not export your identity crisis to other part of igboland because you minority will be aggressively push back to your worthless 3.4 local government.

How dare an ikweere man or so called ikwere council say that etche and nkwa people are not igbo ?

You guys are high on mkpurumiri!! Amadioha will strike that useless ikweere council.

Nonsense angry
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by stanluiz(m): 9:42pm On Jul 04, 2024
bnanny:
They want Ikwere because of oil. You guys should rest and manage with what you have.
Ikwerre does not have any single oil. They don't have any natural resources.

Igbos communities in Rivers that has oil are obigbo, ndoni, egbema etc.

Ikwere does not have anything. What they have and use to brag is only Port Harcourt.

Even that port Harcourt is still been contested by them and ijaws.
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by ZIAZI(m): 1:11am On Jul 05, 2024
stanluiz:
We all know that you insignificant minority with 3.4 local government can never and will never be igbo.

Igbos don't need you! You guys are liability to igbo nation! You don't have anything. Human resources, you don't have. Natural resources you don't have. You guys are nothing!

Nnewi alone has more people and is more richer than your 3.4 local government.

You insignificant minority should not export your identity crisis to other part of igboland because you minority will be aggressively push back to your worthless 3.4 local government.

How dare an ikweere man or so called ikwere council say that etche and nkwa people are not igbo ?

You guys are high on mkpurumiri!! Amadioha will strike that useless ikweere council.

Nonsense angry
You're Mkpurumiri manifesting in flesh and blood.😂😂😂
Are you simply addicted to ignorance or you just 1 answer present for matter wey big pass you? Why didn't you just do a simple research before coming online to disgrace your kinsmen? Oluku!

This is what you get when ignorance is being masqueraded as wisdom. My LG, Obio/Akpor is richer than any other in Alaigbo. I dare you to mention one instead of stating non-existent facts. We are also rich in oil and gas too FYI. That's to enlighten you sha, that is if your ignorance has not gotten to it's zenith.

Oga, we no dey beg for unity or attachment like una. We no even get strength for una matter.
If e dey pain you, go knack your head for rock, Onye ara! Get the phock outta me face!😂

Dey your dey, make I dey my dey. Nobody worry nobody.

Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by LOVEALAIGBO: 11:10am On Jul 05, 2024
ZIAZI:
In response to your sterile rant above, I'd say that the use of the statement "Stockholm syndrome" doesn't apply.

Why should you force something as serious as identity on a tribe that has effortlessly rejected such?

The unproductive argument that the banter between the Ikwerres and Igbos can be traced back to Gowon is highly delusional! My people rejected the same misconception way back before the Civil War. Talking about the Civil War, do you know you dragged us into a war we didn't envisage? Do you know that Igbos killed us in our numbers? You called us saboteurs and we paid for it with our lives. Your useless Biafran soldiers buried our tribesmen alive!!! Assuming without conceding that we are Igbos, would you do that to your own?

Do you know how many people from minority tribes like the Ikwerres died from Ojukwu's inflated sense of importance and carelessness? Oh! Yes! Or was it not the same Ojukwu that fought against Adaka Boro when the latter sought for a sovereign nation? Let's call what happened to him KARMA! After leading 3 million people comprising of Igbos and other minority tribes to a slaughterhouse, he came back to contest for presidency! No be madness be that?

Oga, I know my history. I am not anti-Igbo. You know, I am partially Igbo because my grandmother is from Imo State and not because I am ikwerre.

Just respect our opinion and move away from the cheap, concocted history you know nothing of!

Again, you think the Igbos as a tribe are superior and you use that flawed conception to see the world as though it revolves around the Igbos. You hate the Yorubas and the Hausa/Fulani people and you think you're better off. No wonder you think our resistance to your constant identity pressure is hinged on the alleged subservient role we play for the other tribes stated above.

I have made my point. Well, you can keep being delusional. It's probably some sort of therapy for your malady.

WE CANNOT BE IGBOS! WE NEVER WERE AND WE WILL NEVER BE!
For those that've been on nairaland for some time and are used to the anti-Igbo rants, deception, schemes and bile aimed at Ndigbo from certain ethnicities from outside the eastern (south-east and south-south) region, this post of yours would raise a few eyebrows or red-flags given that you claim to be Ikwerre and yet are exhibiting the same level of intense hatred and revisionism that's usually associated with those trolls! Like i said, it's possible you are Ikwerre as we have seen your type in Wike, but this being a faceless forum, it's also quite possible you're a impostor from the south-west or muslim core north who's invested in trying to limit Alaigbo to 'just your 5 south-east states' and a 'dot in the circle'! No Igbo should be under any illusions as to the high level of scheming against us that's been going on from the late 60s right up till this very minute! You only need to see how some are losing sleep over the prospects of Anioma joining the south-east to understand that the hate and bile is real....and your post is just dripping with hate, bile and condescension!

Yes!....You, Wike and other so called 'south-south' people who bear Igbo names and practice Igbo traditions yet claim you are not Igbo ARE suffering from a large dose of stockholm-syndrome! They claim to have 'liberated' you from the Igbo in the eastern region, and 57 years after what do you have to show for it: poverty, disease, misery, social dislocation, economic malaise, pollution, lack of infrastructure in your cities, towns and villages, poor HDI, etc, etc,etc! And this is supposed to be a region that's as blessed and well endowed as the likes of UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, Angola, etc! Just how TF do you account for the Niger-Delta suffering all the aforementioned developmental problems while the 'liberators' you stupidly see as 'allies' are the ones benefiting more from the oyel and gas in your region....using it to make their cities and towns comparatively better than yours and uplifting their entrepreneurs to be 'richest in Africa' and feature on Forbes richest list!? They are yet to complete your east-west road yet wasted no time in finding billions of dollars to build a coastal highway that we all know is primarily for the benefit of the south-west, Tinubu and his business partners! You have not benefited from the exploitation and use of gas in your region, yet they managed to find billions of dollars loan to hurriedly construct a AKK gas pipeline to suck out gas from your region to the north primarily for their benefit! All this and more, yet Igbo is your problem! If there's any worse case of stokholm-syndrom, i'm yet to see!

For every Ikwerre you claim has 'effortlessly rejected being Igbo' i can show you one who hasn't! What drives bigots like you and your ilk is this sick desire to try and shrink Igbo territory and deny us access to the sea! You are driven by nothing but wickedness, envy and hate!

Can you show me any report, text or documents from pre-uncivil war in which the Ikwerre claim not to be Igbo!? It's possible some may exist....after all, we're all here to learn innit!? I'd like to see if any exist! The most i know of is that there were claims of marginalisation and exclusion amongst and between sub-Igbo groups in the then eastern region, and these politically-inspired protests can still be heard today amongst sub-groups of Igbo, Yoruba, Niger-Deltans, Middle-beltans and core northerners in their respective regions! It's something peculiar to all regions and ethnicities so don't make it look like it was just a pre-war eastern region thing!

This talk of 'Igbo dragged us into a war we didn't want or envisage' is a blatant lie! The 1966 pogrom in the north didn't discriminate between who were Igbo and who were Ijaw, Ogoni, Efik/Ibibio/Annang, etc! All residing in the north were victims! Or you think they stopped to ask if you were Igbo or Ikwerre befor sticking a dagger in your guts!? Ikemba tried for a acceptable resolution of the crises with the Aburi meeting, but this was reneged on by Gowon and the murders continued! The eastern region had no choice but to secede from Nigeria seeing as the Gowon admin' were either unwilling or unable to guarantee the protection of lives and property of easterners living in the north! Ikemba got the go-ahead from ethnicities in the eastern region to secede, so don't make it look like it was a unilateral decision made in his bedroom!

There has been a lot of revisionism, lies and attempts to hide the truth concerning what went on before, during and in the immediate aftermath of the uncivil war! For instance, do you know the Biafra song sang by Cardinal Rex Lawson, a Ijaw man, has been removed from Youtube as this song worked against moves to make it look like Ikemba and Igbos' dragged others in the eastern region into war!?

You claim Igbos' commited 'atrocities' against other ethnic groups in the eastern region during the war! Phillip Effiong was second-in-command at the time! Does it make sense to you that he would sit by and watch Ikemba and Igbos' do all that yet still retain his position in the Biafra leadership hierachy!? Can you show us reports OF THE TIME that documented or spoke of said 'atrocities' by Biafra gov't/soldiers against innocent civilians in the region!? Isn't it strange that a so called 'Niger-Deltan/south-south' man would be referring to purported 'atrocities' against them by the Igbo during the war, yet has nothing to say about the pogrom that went on for months against easteners in the north.....and has nothing to say about the Asaba massacre which isn't a figment of anyones imagination!?

On the issue of Adaka Boro.....can you tell us the capital of this Niger-Delta republic he declared; the extent/boundaries of its territory; its flag and national anthem; and the ethnicities he consulted to make up the republic!? You just go about trying to add all sorts of lies and conspiracy theories into the argument in the hopes of getting more support and sympathy for your deceit and lies! In any case, what happened to said desire and attempts by the Ijaw/Niger-Delta to secede from Nigeria!? Has it been put in the cooler or what!? Are they now happy with the 'one Nigeria' some of them allied with the 'liberators' to fight for!? I'd like to know!

You ranting about the Igbo thinking we're 'superior' to others is just you exposing and projecting your insecurities for all to see! Mention how Ndigbo have done this....especially in relation to the Yoruba and Fulani who you see as infallible and above reproach!

Neither i personally or Ndigbo in general hate the Yoruba or Fulani! We just want the freedom to live and prosper in peace and safety and use our own resources to develop ourselves unhindered! As things stand now, the biggest proponents of 'one Nigeria' and the status-quo are found amongst the Yoruba and Fulani, and this is why it looks like Ndigbo are 'hating' on them! We just want our freedom that's all! smiley
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by stanluiz(m): 11:53am On Jul 05, 2024
ZIAZI:
You're Mkpurumiri manifesting in flesh and blood.😂😂😂
Are you simply addicted to ignorance or you just 1 answer present for matter wey big pass you? Why didn't you just do a simple research before coming online to disgrace your kinsmen? Oluku!

This is what you get when ignorance is being masqueraded as wisdom. My LG, Obio/Akpor is richer than any other in Alaigbo. I dare you to mention one instead of stating non-existent facts. We are also rich in oil and gas too FYI. That's to enlighten you sha, that is if your ignorance has not gotten to it's zenith.

Oga, we no dey beg for unity or attachment like una. We no even get strength for una matter.
If e dey pain you, go knack your head for rock, Onye ara! Get the phock outta me face!😂

Dey your dey, make I dey my dey. Nobody worry nobody.
Audio 8 billion. Not only 8 billion. Even 8 trillion cheesy

What is in obio akpor, nothing!! Which oil and gas do you have ? Continue dreaming!

Soon or later, your useless ikweere kinmen in ohaneze ndigbo will be expelled.

Tell your ikweere kinsmen to restrict their identify crises to their 3.4 local government.

If they can do that, then, nobody will worry each other. But if you continue to push your identity crisis outside your 3.4 local government in ikweere land. Then, you dey worry me. And you are looking for trouble.
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by NaijaPrince18: 12:52pm On Jul 05, 2024
stanluiz:
Audio 8 billion. Not only 8 billion. Even 8 trillion cheesy

What is in obio akpor, nothing!! Which oil and gas do you have ? Continue dreaming!

Soon or later, your useless ikweere kinmen in ohaneze ndigbo will be expelled.

Tell your ikweere kinsmen to restrict their identify crises to their 3.4 local government.

If they can do that, then, nobody will worry each other. But if you continue to push your identity crisis outside your 3.4 local government in ikweere land. Then, you dey worry me. And you are looking for trouble.
But you can push your ibo nonsense on lagosians? Dey play. Ikwerre are not ibo and ibbiio will take back abia state likewise igala and anambra. Foolish ppl
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by ZIAZI(m): 1:58pm On Jul 05, 2024
LOVEALAIGBO:
For those that've been on nairaland for some time and are used to the anti-Igbo rants, deception, schemes and bile aimed at Ndigbo from certain ethnicities from outside the eastern (south-east and south-south) region, this post of yours would raise a few eyebrows or red-flags given that you claim to be Ikwerre and yet are exhibiting the same level of intense hatred and revisionism that's usually associated with those trolls! Like i said, it's possible you are Ikwerre as we have seen your type in Wike, but this being a faceless forum, it's also quite possible you're a impostor from the south-west or muslim core north who's invested in trying to limit Alaigbo to 'just your 5 south-east states' and a 'dot in the circle'! No Igbo should be under any illusions as to the high level of scheming against us that's been going on from the late 60s right up till this very minute! You only need to see how some are losing sleep over the prospects of Anioma joining the south-east to understand that the hate and bile is real....and your post is just dripping with hate, bile and condescension!

Yes!....You, Wike and other so called 'south-south' people who bear Igbo names and practice Igbo traditions yet claim you are not Igbo ARE suffering from a large dose of stockholm-syndrome! They claim to have 'liberated' you from the Igbo in the eastern region, and 57 years after what do you have to show for it: poverty, disease, misery, social dislocation, economic malaise, pollution, lack of infrastructure in your cities, towns and villages, poor HDI, etc, etc,etc! And this is supposed to be a region that's as blessed and well endowed as the likes of UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, Angola, etc! Just how TF do you account for the Niger-Delta suffering all the aforementioned developmental problems while the 'liberators' you stupidly see as 'allies' are the ones benefiting more from the oyel and gas in your region....using it to make their cities and towns comparatively better than yours and uplifting their entrepreneurs to be 'richest in Africa' and feature on Forbes richest list!? They are yet to complete your east-west road yet wasted no time in finding billions of dollars to build a coastal highway that we all know is primarily for the benefit of the south-west, Tinubu and his business partners! You have not benefited from the exploitation and use of gas in your region, yet they managed to find billions of dollars loan to hurriedly construct a AKK gas pipeline to suck out gas from your region to the north primarily for their benefit! All this and more, yet Igbo is your problem! If there's any worse case of stokholm-syndrom, i'm yet to see!

For every Ikwerre you claim has 'effortlessly rejected being Igbo' i can show you one who hasn't! What drives bigots like you and your ilk is this sick desire to try and shrink Igbo territory and deny us access to the sea! You are driven by nothing but wickedness, envy and hate!

Can you show me any report, text or documents from pre-uncivil war in which the Ikwerre claim not to be Igbo!? It's possible some may exist....after all, we're all here to learn innit!? I'd like to see if any exist! The most i know of is that there were claims of marginalisation and exclusion amongst and between sub-Igbo groups in the then eastern region, and these politically-inspired protests can still be heard today amongst sub-groups of Igbo, Yoruba, Niger-Deltans, Middle-beltans and core northerners in their respective regions! It's something peculiar to all regions and ethnicities so don't make it look like it was just a pre-war eastern region thing!

This talk of 'Igbo dragged us into a war we didn't want or envisage' is a blatant lie! The 1966 pogrom in the north didn't discriminate between who were Igbo and who were Ijaw, Ogoni, Efik/Ibibio/Annang, etc! All residing in the north were victims! Or you think they stopped to ask if you were Igbo or Ikwerre befor sticking a dagger in your guts!? Ikemba tried for a acceptable resolution of the crises with the Aburi meeting, but this was reneged on by Gowon and the murders continued! The eastern region had no choice but to secede from Nigeria seeing as the Gowon admin' were either unwilling or unable to guarantee the protection of lives and property of easterners living in the north! Ikemba got the go-ahead from ethnicities in the eastern region to secede, so don't make it look like it was a unilateral decision made in his bedroom!

There has been a lot of revisionism, lies and attempts to hide the truth concerning what went on before, during and in the immediate aftermath of the uncivil war! For instance, do you know the Biafra song sang by Cardinal Rex Lawson, a Ijaw man, has been removed from Youtube as this song worked against moves to make it look like Ikemba and Igbos' dragged others in the eastern region into war!?

You claim Igbos' commited 'atrocities' against other ethnic groups in the eastern region during the war! Phillip Effiong was second-in-command at the time! Does it make sense to you that he would sit by and watch Ikemba and Igbos' do all that yet still retain his position in the Biafra leadership hierachy!? Can you show us reports OF THE TIME that documented or spoke of said 'atrocities' by Biafra gov't/soldiers against innocent civilians in the region!? Isn't it strange that a so called 'Niger-Deltan/south-south' man would be referring to purported 'atrocities' against them by the Igbo during the war, yet has nothing to say about the pogrom that went on for months against easteners in the north.....and has nothing to say about the Asaba massacre which isn't a figment of anyones imagination!?

On the issue of Adaka Boro.....can you tell us the capital of this Niger-Delta republic he declared; the extent/boundaries of its territory; its flag and national anthem; and the ethnicities he consulted to make up the republic!? You just go about trying to add all sorts of lies and conspiracy theories into the argument in the hopes of getting more support and sympathy for your deceit and lies! In any case, what happened to said desire and attempts by the Ijaw/Niger-Delta to secede from Nigeria!? Has it been put in the cooler or what!? Are they now happy with the 'one Nigeria' some of them allied with the 'liberators' to fight for!? I'd like to know!

You ranting about the Igbo thinking we're 'superior' to others is just you exposing and projecting your insecurities for all to see! Mention how Ndigbo have done this....especially in relation to the Yoruba and Fulani who you see as infallible and above reproach!

Neither i personally or Ndigbo in general hate the Yoruba or Fulani! We just want the freedom to live and prosper in peace and safety and use our own resources to develop ourselves unhindered! As things stand now, the biggest proponents of 'one Nigeria' and the status-quo are found amongst the Yoruba and Fulani, and this is why it looks like Ndigbo are 'hating' on them! We just want our freedom that's all! smiley
Chief, your view above no matter how beautifully couched, remains a jaundiced and myopic view. I would implore you to fact-check everything I stated earlier instead of joining issues with me without a defense. I didn't ask rhetorical questions in my earlier post, sire. I need answers! You have provided nothing but questions .

You know, it is unfortunate and morally despicable for you to say that the idea of the "Ikwerres not being Igbos" started just 57 years ago! Ask your uncles living in Port Harcourt!

The funny statement "We (Igbos) just want our freedom..." bears mentioning here. Who is holding you bound? Well, I strongly believe you are referring to mental slavery, and the legendary Bob Marley already gave you the solution to that.

I have no resentment whatsoever against the Igbos. You earlier claimed to have gone through my posts here on Nairaland. I challenge you to highlight just one post in which I attacked the Igbos on my volution. I spit facts in the fact of provocation orchestrated by your ill-informed kinsmen, who do nothing but make derogatory statements against my tribe. Everything I say is in the defense of my Ikwerre people, and unlike you, I call a spade, a spade.

Accusing me of being a Muslim from the Southwest and your constant reference to His Excellency, Chief Barr. Ezenwo Nyesom Wike, LL.B, LL.M, Ph.D, CON, DSSRS, POS Africa, tells me a lot about who you are.

I consider you learned to be a part of such group that is conspicuously benighted. Their drive is hinged on intellectual darkness. I pray you attain freedom!

Finally, wetin be the problem? Na say some of una (not all ooooh) no just get sense to understand something.

Toxic Igbo man: As an Ikwerre man, you are Igbo!!!
Ikwerre man: Not at all! I am an Ikwerre man. Please do not say that.
Toxic Igbo man: Chineke!!! You are a fool! You are a slave to the Yoruba/Hausa/Fulani people. Confused people! Heiiii!!! Gowon don useless una! Identity crisis! Bdhsnmzbshzyzvzmzkshebdbdksidudbdbsjsisj and the list goes on....................

Who is being intolerant, vile, and ignoble?
We have just 4 local governments in Rivers State. We not get one state sef! But still, can you leave us alone? No be by force nah. Pleaseeeeeeee!!!!!
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by ZIAZI(m): 2:03pm On Jul 05, 2024
stanluiz:
Audio 8 billion. Not only 8 billion. Even 8 trillion cheesy

What is in obio akpor, nothing!! Which oil and gas do you have ? Continue dreaming!

Soon or later, your useless ikweere kinmen in ohaneze ndigbo will be expelled.

Tell your ikweere kinsmen to restrict their identify crises to their 3.4 local government.

If they can do that, then, nobody will worry each other. But if you continue to push your identity crisis outside your 3.4 local government in ikweere land. Then, you dey worry me. And you are looking for trouble.
Instead of quoting me to showcase the vacancy in your brain, try to attach something called evidence. Tell me one local government in Igboland doing better than Obio/Akpor.

Your time starts now! 😂😂😂
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by stanluiz(m): 8:30pm On Jul 05, 2024
ZIAZI:
Instead of quoting me to showcase the vacancy in your brain, try to attach something called evidence. Tell me one local government in Igboland doing better than Obio/Akpor.

Your time starts now! 😂😂😂
There's nothing in obio akpor. That's you receive the highest allocation at the detriment of the local governments in Rivers doesn't make you special.

Many Local government in South East are better and more developed than obio akpor.

Oba, obi cubana hometown is more developed , more educated, has more wealthy and rich than the whole of obio akpor. cheesy

I hope you see the media coverage oba received that year. People that went to oba were shocked at the development in oba

Many villages in South East is more developed than obio akpor talk more of a local government.

So buddy, don't overrate your self.

Restrict your identity crisis to your 3.4 local government. That's the main message I want to pass to you and your Ikweere kinsmen.

Am done with you.
Re: Ikwerre Council: Ngwas, Etches Are Not Igbos But Are Our Brothers by LOVEALAIGBO: 3:25am On Jul 06, 2024
ZIAZI:
Chief, your view above no matter how beautifully couched, remains a jaundiced and myopic view. I would implore you to fact-check everything I stated earlier instead of joining issues with me without a defense. I didn't ask rhetorical questions in my earlier post, sire. I need answers! You have provided nothing but questions .

You know, it is unfortunate and morally despicable for you to say that the idea of the "Ikwerres not being Igbos" started just 57 years ago! Ask your uncles living in Port Harcourt!

The funny statement "We (Igbos) just want our freedom..." bears mentioning here. Who is holding you bound? Well, I strongly believe you are referring to mental slavery, and the legendary Bob Marley already gave you the solution to that.

I have no resentment whatsoever against the Igbos. You earlier claimed to have gone through my posts here on Nairaland. I challenge you to highlight just one post in which I attacked the Igbos on my volution. I spit facts in the fact of provocation orchestrated by your ill-informed kinsmen, who do nothing but make derogatory statements against my tribe. Everything I say is in the defense of my Ikwerre people, and unlike you, I call a spade, a spade.

Accusing me of being a Muslim from the Southwest and your constant reference to His Excellency, Chief Barr. Ezenwo Nyesom Wike, LL.B, LL.M, Ph.D, CON, DSSRS, POS Africa, tells me a lot about who you are.

I consider you learned to be a part of such group that is conspicuously benighted. Their drive is hinged on intellectual darkness. I pray you attain freedom!

Finally, wetin be the problem? Na say some of una (not all ooooh) no just get sense to understand something.

Toxic Igbo man: As an Ikwerre man, you are Igbo!!!
Ikwerre man: Not at all! I am an Ikwerre man. Please do not say that.
Toxic Igbo man: Chineke!!! You are a fool! You are a slave to the Yoruba/Hausa/Fulani people. Confused people! Heiiii!!! Gowon don useless una! Identity crisis! Bdhsnmzbshzyzvzmzkshebdbdksidudbdbsjsisj and the list goes on....................

Who is being intolerant, vile, and ignoble?
We have just 4 local governments in Rivers State. We not get one state sef! But still, can you leave us alone? No be by force nah. Pleaseeeeeeee!!!!!
Yet again, more waffle, skirting around the issues and making claims you can't defend even if your life depends on it!

Dude, YOU asserted so the onus is on YOU to provide corroboration or evidence to your claims! Just how TF do you go about claiming 'Ikwerre are not Igbo', then when i ask you to provide any evidence showing any Ikwerre holding this view before the onset of the uncivil war, you then refer me to my uncles living in Port and tell me to go factcheck!? Who does that!? If you have no proof then there's no shame in backtracking and admitting you were a bit economical with the truth!

I'm just trying to show on this thread that all this 'Ikwerre are not Igbo' sentiments started AFTER the uncivil war, and are engineered, sustained and given oxygen by insecure Igbo-hating bastards who're not even from anywhere in the south-east/south-south! These vermin are so invested in trying to sabotage Igbo economic, political and territorial interests at each and every turn! They're never happy and can't sleep well if they hear anyone from outside the south-east claim to be Igbo! It sends them into panic mode, and this is why they have agents and allies like you on this forum to help them in their anti-Igbo campaign!

You're yet to tell us why you, who claims to be Ikwerre, are yet to give the same level of attention to the Asaba massacres and the pogrom in the north like you give to the cock-and-bull yarn of 'Ikemba sending Igbo soldiers to massacre lots of non-combatant Niger-Delta men, women and children' and what Philip Effiong had to say about such a tall yarn! You're yet to show links to news reports of the time that mentioned said 'massacre'!

If you who claims to be a Niger-Deltan can't understand the need to be free in the Nigeria of today, then you're well and truly brainwashed! Or is your argument that the Niger-Deltans are satisfied with their lot and the Nigeria structural status-quo!? That you can treat with disdain and levity the desire for ANYONE from the south-east or south-south to be free says all that needs to be said about you!

Dude, you're clutching at straws if you want to run with the falsehood that 'Igbo do nothing but make derogatory statements against the Ikwerre'! Which Igbo have done this...when and where? I hope to God that it's not posts on nairaland that makes a grownass man like you 'justify' losing the plot and descending low into the gutter of ethnic trolling and abuse!? If i were to try responding to every anonymous twerp that insults my Igbo ethnicity, besides showing i have no self-restraint and maturity, it would also mean i wouldn't leave nairaland and have productive life!

Wike is a uncultured thug and a butcher! All those acronyms you attached to his name are hilarious and remind me of the plenty ones Idi Amin had! Anyway, it's a Nigerian thing!

Let me reiterate: So long as there are Ikwerre who wear their Igbo identity with pride and don't fall for the divisive tricks and schemes of the ruling Yoruba/Fulani hegemonic alliance, for so long shall Igbo like me be prepared to tell you to speak for yourself and your immediate family and not purport to speak for Ogbakor Ikwerre! As far as i'm concerned, Ikwerre are Igbo!
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