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Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by phorget(m): 1:30pm On Jul 05, 2024
CyrusVI:
Shebi Gbadebo na Yoruba, so why are Igbos trying to make it seem like its about them

Other Yorubas lost and the Igbos didnt say anything about that.

So why GRV specificallyhuh Isnt he a normal Yoruba guy like Jandor?
So Gbadebo is no more CHINEDU?
Nah tribalism go kee una one day.

You always choose the narrative that suits you at every given time, now Lagos is silent and peaceful but when we get to another election period you all will start finding igbos fault. EIEH!
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Tochj(m): 1:31pm On Jul 05, 2024
CyrusVI:
Bro, do u have a telegram page, so i can forward the video recording to you

Its actually in one of those Obidients twitter meeting or wetin dem dey call am, with over 1k plus people on the page, you'll see names of the attendees too

Drop an accessible telegram page, lemme forward it

I deal in facts not hearsay
Anybody can bear any name to get whatever they want
People do bear Igbo names to insult Yoruba to convince Yoruba people that Igbos don't like them.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by derecho(m): 1:31pm On Jul 05, 2024
So you are one of those misinformed people who know nothing about Lagos?

Provide proofs that "Igbos" said they'd make Igbo language the language for lagosians and all the lies you're writing.


I understand when empty politicians lie to garner votes but it's unfortunate to foolishly believe them.

Most lagosians were not deceived by Tinubu/APC lies, it's those in the villages who were trying to be more Catholic than the pope.

CyrusVI:
Dont u have Eze-Igbo in Yoruba land

I dont know about Lagos but dem dey Akure and Owo


So its fair for Fulani to have theirs if u can have Eze-Igbo in Yoruba land
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by SpatialKing(m): 1:41pm On Jul 05, 2024
CyrusVI:
Igbos even called Lagos No mans land, threatened to make Igbo the first language in Lagos
Imagine threatening other peoples tradition and wanting really bad to remove their Kings

Its funny tho as i see GRV as a normal Yoruba guy who lost an election, same as Jandor and that A.A

Nah....No sane Human environment would allow such
No Igbo man ever said that

Where is the evidence...
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by ibechris(op): 1:43pm On Jul 05, 2024
Bitterkola100:
idiot, a permanet sec worked his way up the civil servkce ladder and not an appointment.

Show me any yoruba man in an appointed position in the south east.
U lied.
In Nigeria,per secs are appointed even if u pass the exams. They will choose who they want.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by ibechris(op): 1:44pm On Jul 05, 2024
JagabanB:
If lgb0s didn't talk about removing Obas and sending Yorubas packing from Lagos, what went down wouldn't have gone down.
If igbos how and when was that said.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Tochi3(m): 2:23pm On Jul 05, 2024
JagabanB:
I don't have a kabiyesi.

Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by 2elliot: 2:28pm On Jul 05, 2024
CyrusVI:
Igbos even called Lagos No mans land, threatened to make Igbo the first language in Lagos
Imagine threatening other peoples tradition and wanting really bad to remove their Kings

Its funny tho as i see GRV as a normal Yoruba guy who lost an election, same as Jandor and that A.A

Nah....No sane Human environment would allow such
Imagine an Igbo man creates a party called "Igbo people in Yoruba land party", and then says that Yoruba land is home from home, and that everyone must embrace that reality and actively vote for them to become the leaders.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by 2elliot: 2:30pm On Jul 05, 2024
JagabanB:
lgb0s are the ones to take responsibilities here, same way u all refused to take responsibilities for starting the civiI war in 1967.
Same way your Awolowo and Akintola started destructive politics that created a wild wild world scenario, which the coup was intended to address.
https://punchng.com/akintola-travelled-ambulances-protection-wild-wild-west-crisis-ayo-adebanjo/
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Tochi3(m): 2:31pm On Jul 05, 2024
CyrusVI:
Dont u have Eze-Igbo in Yoruba land

I dont know about Lagos but dem dey Akure and Owo


So its fair for Fulani to have theirs if u can have Eze-Igbo in Yoruba land

Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by franchasofficia: 2:39pm On Jul 05, 2024
Very funny, anyhow people filled with envy and hatred.


They pretend to lover Hausas because they see Hausa-Fulanis as dull people they can cheat and outsmart.


And they hate Igbos because they know that they cannot outshine nor outsmart Igbos, so the best way to deal with Igbos is to gangup with Hausa-Fulanis and use lies and propaganda to paint Igbos black, their time is gradually getting up shocked
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Beremx(f): 2:54pm On Jul 05, 2024
Omoawoke:
UK is our home and that’s fact

Uk committed the worst atrocities against humanity when they invaded people’s lands and destroyed their culture and looted their lands

So we have every right to claim UK.
All Africans and even Indians should colonize uk by going there and multiplying
so are you now saying UK is no man's land? grin grin
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Goodvibes007: 2:58pm On Jul 05, 2024
Beremx:
so are you now saying UK is no man's land? grin grin
Did he call UK mans land? Abeg dey use your brain.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Goodvibes007: 2:58pm On Jul 05, 2024
franchasofficia:
Very funny, anyhow people filled with envy and hatred.


They pretend to lover Hausas because they see Hausa-Fulanis as dull people they can cheat and outsmart.


And they hate Igbos because they know that they cannot outshine nor outsmart Igbos, so the best way to deal with Igbos is to gangup with Hausa-Fulanis and use lies and propaganda to paint Igbos black, their time is gradually getting up shocked
That's the ibos. Filled with bitterness and bile. As a result, ibos are targetted all over Nigeria, the world and Africa.

Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Goodvibes007: 3:02pm On Jul 05, 2024
CyrusVI:
Dont u have Eze-Igbo in Yoruba land

I dont know about Lagos but dem dey Akure and Owo


So its fair for Fulani to have theirs if u can have Eze-Igbo in Yoruba land
You forgot the Eze kirikiri. The one currently eating watery beans in DSS dungeon for threatening Lagos with IPOB violence.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by franchasofficia: 3:02pm On Jul 05, 2024
Goodvibes007:
That's the ibos. Filled with bitterness and bile. As a result, ibos are targetted all over Nigeria, the world and Africa.
Aside Lagos state, Ibadan and maybe some parts of Ogun state due to industrialization made possible by its proximity to Lagos, there is no other Yoruba state that witness influx of none indigenes of the state more than Onitsha and Aba.

The problem most of you have is you hate traveling around Nigeria (especially to Southeast even if for nothing else but for information and enlightenment purpose like I have done to other regions just to know what's on ground in other regions) and you stay in your region and assume things in Southeast. Why not plan a physical visit to Onitsha, Aba, Owerri and Enugu and have a first hand experience even though the FG induced insecurity in Southeast have reduced economic activities in Southeast since end of Buhari's second tenure that he used wickedness and hatred to disrupt the peace of Southeast through unnecessary clampdown on IPOB and Biafra agitators.



Igbos relocate to Lagos state because Lagos state is Nigeria's commercial center, all thanks to Colonial masters and Nigeria's Federal Government and it's policies even before independence.


Nigeria's number one seaport is in Lagos state. And Nigeria is an importation dependent nation. So what do you expect Igbo people that are business oriented people to do; remain in Southeast that federal government intentionally ignored/abandoned it's infrastructures to punish Igbos after the end of the civil war in 1970?


Nigeria's number one international airport is in Lagos.

Nigeria's Central Bank headquarters used to be in Lagos until some time ago that it was relocated to Abuja.


Nigeria's Customs head office was also in Lagos until some years back that it was moved to Abuja but main control office still remain in Lagos.

Nigeria's FAAN, and other aviation regulatory bodies were all in Lagos until Buhari moved them to Abuja few years ago.


All the commercial, mortgage, etc bank head offices are all in Lagos till today.


All foreign country embassies and mission offices are either in Lagos or Abuja. So before any Igbo man travels out of Nigeria for his business or study or tourism/vacation, etc, he must visit Lagos to obtain visa, etc, so what do you expect; Igbos remain in Southeast when you refused them from having their own country with these offices in their country, so that you can then know if they would remain in Lagos or return to their new country?


Virtually all International Oil Companies' head offices are in Lagos state. And lots more.


All these are in Lagos because Lagos was Nigeria's former capital city and the only city to have held that status for decades.


All these make federal government of Nigeria to make policies to favor Lagos state, and also build infrastructures to support Lagos state's status.


So it is natural for all Nigerians, including foreigners to prefer Lagos state more than any other state in Nigeria for economic survival, job hunting, business establishment and whatnot because Nigeria's Federal Government policies already favored Lagos to succeed more than any other state in Nigeria.


This is why it seems like Igbos relocate to Lagos a lot, it is not rocket science, it is natural based on the facts and indices I already gave.


Another issue is the civil war and culture.

Just like Fulanis who are mostly nomads by culture and nature, Igbos are another economic/business nomad tribe in Nigeria. An average Igbo man can relocate to a remote community he spots an opportunity to establish a thriving business/trade without minding the lack of modern amenities and harshness of that community. He would sit tight doing his trade judiciously, serving the people of that community until modernization comes to that place and by then he will become the shining star or the owner of the most thriving business in that once forgotten community. This is Igbo people's lifestyle. He may come from Onitsha with electricity, paved road, modern healthcare, etc but still relocate to a remote community in far away North where he believes he would thrive faster with less competition, and you may think his community is a forest for him to come to such remote community to reside.


He must have weighed his chances of surviving in his more developed Onitsha town with lots of competition with other big business owners and decided to relocate to where he would survive faster. This is why most Igbos relocate to different parts of Nigeria and abroad. Igbos by nature are economic nomads or trade/business nomads.


Again like I said, Biafra civil war also played a role. Southeast and Igbos survived the civil war and bounced back without government officially rebuilding Southeast after the war like other countries that fought such war did mostly because of Igbo people's business/trade Nomadic lifestyle. So how can you be comparing Southeast with Lagos or Kano, Kaduna, etc in development when they didn't witness any war like Southeast? Are you aware that virtually all major infrastructure in Southeast built by the colonial masters were all destroyed during the civil war whereas those built in Lagos, Kano, Kaduna, etc are all in tact, so how can any sane human being even compare Southeast development with other Nigerian regions that didn't witness war in their region? Southeast ought to be getting kudos and also used as example of a region that rose from fall on its own without federal government help.


Lastly, you asked why Peter Obi didn't transform Anambra to be a developed city comparable to Europe, etc or even Lagos?

I already answered why you shouldn't compare Lagos with any Southeast state in the first place. Lagos is Nigeria's commercial capital built by Nigeria's Federal government and all Nigerians plus foreigners due to its status since colonial era.


Next, I hope you understand the system of government Nigeria operates which makes the President the all and all that determines how any region or state develops in Nigeria which is why progressive Nigerians are clamoring for restructuring? No Nigerian state can develop and remain secured if the incumbent President of Nigeria doesn't want it to happen. I hope you aware that no State Governor in Nigeria controls the security of his or her state? The President controls everything.


I hope you know how federal allocation is shared among the 36 states in Nigeria? It's based on:

1.) population
2.) natural resources revenue derivation

Because of the factors I earlier pointed out, Lagos, Kano, Kaduna, etc get the largest share of allocation based on population, while Delta, Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom get the highest allocation based on crude oil revenue.

So where do you expect an Anambra state Governor to get the trillions to turn Anambra state to Lagos or Kano? Anambra is a very young state carved out of Enugu not long ago, Anambra doesn't have the population of Lagos or Kano because of lack of federal government presence compared to Lagos, Kano, Rivers, Delta, etc since the end of the civil war. So the little development Anambra witnessed is self made through indigenous people of Anambra and few none indigenous investors, and then the Onitsha main market.


So you cannot compare the opportunities, resources and revenue available to a Lagos or Kano or Rivers or Delta or Kaduna or Akwa Ibom Governor to that available to an Anambra Governor. This you must take note of.


So if Peter Obi says he is going to do this and this as a President of Nigeria, you should not antagonize him by comparatively asking why didn't he do them in Anambra which is a smaller, young state with lesser resources and opportunities compared to Lagos, etc. With the little Obi did with the small resources and opportunities available to him as an Anambra Governor, then it means he is more than capable to do more with larger resources, opportunities and power to back it up as the President.


Why people like me say Tinubu did not perform as a Lagos state Governor is because Lagos state Governor have the world at his tip. Lagos state alone is richer than so many countries and it is no singular person's making, but owes tribute to Colonial masters, Nigeria's Federal Government, Nigeria's crude oil resources, and then all Nigerians.


And like I said, why I say Tinubu did not perform as Lagos state Governor is because I know that without his grip on Lagos state treasury, if Lagos were to be governed by a whiteman, believe me, Lagos will be competing with top global cities like London, Tokyo, Adelaide, etc because Lagos state have all that it takes to develop more than it is today.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Goodvibes007: 3:03pm On Jul 05, 2024
[quote author=franchasofficia post=130809522][/quote]I did not copy your junk so as not to get spambotted.

This is a video of Ibos fleeing in their thousands via night buses to Ibadan and Lagos. SW is your London.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAJCkEOLGGI?si=CQNkSd1nY4QRG6eZ
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by DMerciful(m): 3:03pm On Jul 05, 2024
Show evidence
JagabanB:
If lgb0s didn't talk about removing Obas and sending Yorubas packing from Lagos, what went down wouldn't have gone down.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by DMerciful(m): 3:04pm On Jul 05, 2024
Show evidence, nor be by cho cho cho
CyrusVI:
Igbos even called Lagos No mans land, threatened to make Igbo the first language in Lagos
Imagine threatening other peoples tradition and wanting really bad to remove their Kings

Its funny tho as i see GRV as a normal Yoruba guy who lost an election, same as Jandor and that A.A

Nah....No sane Human environment would allow such
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Goodvibes007: 3:07pm On Jul 05, 2024
CyrusVI:
Shebi Gbadebo na Yoruba, so why are Igbos trying to make it seem like its about them

Other Yorubas lost and the Igbos didnt say anything about that.

So why GRV specificallyhuh Isnt he a normal Yoruba guy like Jandor?
They know he is Ibo. Dem think say dem smart 😂😂😂

Anyway, shinedu can goan contest in Anambra state.

Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Goodvibes007: 3:09pm On Jul 05, 2024
CyrusVI:
They did it in Anambra state
The video of the man that voted APC and was harrased with cutlass went viral then

It happened everywhere

So rest. You all are hypocritical
I saw atleast 4 videos. They even killed one of the Aki and pawpaw's brother for supporting APC.

Videos dey here.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Goodvibes007: 3:11pm On Jul 05, 2024
Bitterkola100:
Yorubas are even far more liberal, at least i can count many igbos holding political positions in yoruba land and even one here in edo state.
Have you ever seen a non igbo in any political position in the east?

In fact as an enugu man you cannot contest any election in anambra.
When Betty Akeredolu tried to contest elections in her home town of imo, they quickly reminded her that she was no longer theirs since she was married to a Yoruba.

The worst is the ones they do to themselves. Peter Obi when he was governor won't even allow non-Anambrans contest in any Anambra election. Even as lowly as a market leadership position.

They don't even see Ebonyi as real Ibos and normally dislike abekeleke people.

They love hypocrisy and are professional gaslighters. Na only people dey fall for their antics.

Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by franchasofficia:
Goodvibes007:
I did not copy your junk so as not to get spambotted.

This is a video of Ibos fleeing in their thousands via night buses to Ibadan and Lagos. SW is your London.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAJCkEOLGGI?si=CQNkSd1nY4QRG6eZ
Because you are lazy and unintelligent to understand facts, you refused to read my expository comment that would enlighten you and make you reason more like a rational human being than an online political tool used by failed Nigerian politicians
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Goodvibes007: 3:18pm On Jul 05, 2024
franchasofficia:
Because you are lazy and unintelligent to understand facts, you refused to read my expository comment what would enlighten you and make you reason more like a rational human being than an online political tool used by failed Nigerian politicians
Why should I read your junk copy and paste post. LMAO.

But I will always remind you of your tribalism you try to hide while gaslighting Mumu people.

Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by JagabanB: 3:21pm On Jul 05, 2024
DMerciful:
Show evidence
Ok
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by JagabanB: 3:22pm On Jul 05, 2024
2elliot:
Same way your Awolowo and Akintola started destructive politics that created a wild wild world scenario, which the coup was intended to address.
https://punchng.com/akintola-travelled-ambulances-protection-wild-wild-west-crisis-ayo-adebanjo/
Can you remind me of the relationship I have with Awolowo and Akintola?
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Omoawoke(m): 3:24pm On Jul 05, 2024
Beremx:
so are you now saying UK is no man's land? grin grin
I’m saying that because of the evil they did to others. British went round the world, invading people’s lands, looting and destroying their heritage. Our artifacts are still there till today. And yes, we have every right to get everything we can from them
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Omoawoke(m): 3:27pm On Jul 05, 2024
Goodvibes007:
Did he call UK mans land? Abeg dey use your brain.
Even if I say that I’m not wrong, na jeje we dey when they came to invade our land and established a colony here.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by JagabanB: 3:32pm On Jul 05, 2024
[quote author=Tochi3 post=130808934][/quote]Whoever doesn't agree is a Yoruba?
So the person is no longer Hausa-fulani?
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by JagabanB: 3:34pm On Jul 05, 2024
ibechris:
If igbos how and when was that said.
I don't owe ur memory the duty of bringing to it's notice events that took place just one year ago.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by JagabanB: 3:36pm On Jul 05, 2024
givedemwotowoto:
Voter intimidation is a crime. Stop giving lame excuses
Like voter's intimidation didn't happen in SE, always playing the vîctîm.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Tochi3(m): 3:49pm On Jul 05, 2024
JagabanB:
Whoever doesn't agree is a Yoruba?
So the person is no longer Hausa-fulani?
..

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