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Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Beremx(f): 3:54pm On Jul 05, 2024
Omoawoke:
I’m saying that because of the evil they did to others. British went round the world, invading people’s lands, looting and destroying their heritage. Our artifacts are still there till today. And yes, we have every right to get everything we can from them
hmmmm..... Okay
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Ikinternational: 4:14pm On Jul 05, 2024
JagabanB:
If lgb0s didn't talk about removing Obas and sending Yorubas packing from Lagos, what went down wouldn't have gone down.
Please.
You're not talking to children abeg
At least respect yourself
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by JagabanB: 4:15pm On Jul 05, 2024
Ikinternational:
Please.
You're not talking to children abeg
At least respect yourself
It's a good thing I'm not talking to children so they don't have short memories.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Ikinternational: 4:22pm On Jul 05, 2024
CyrusVI:
Igbos even called Lagos No mans land, threatened to make Igbo the first language in Lagos
Imagine threatening other peoples tradition and wanting really bad to remove their Kings

Its funny tho as i see GRV as a normal Yoruba guy who lost an election, same as Jandor and that A.A

Nah....No sane Human environment would allow such
Yes.... Igbos did it

All that's needed is for you to disagree with the person. Automatically he's igbo

It's a known fact that all other tribes agree with your pov 🙄

As proven by comments by Oba of Onitsha or is it Benin 😒


There's Igbos in Lagos that don't even speak the language fluently. But they're going to make it #1 language 🤔🤔🤔🤔

You people can lie sha. Anything to justify your rubbish
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by tunjijones(m): 5:28pm On Jul 05, 2024
franchasofficia:
Aside Lagos state, Ibadan and maybe some parts of Ogun state due to industrialization made possible by its proximity to Lagos, there is no other Yoruba state that witness influx of none indigenes of the state more than Onitsha and Aba.

The problem most of you have is you hate traveling around Nigeria (especially to Southeast even if for nothing else but for information and enlightenment purpose like I have done to other regions just to know what's on ground in other regions) and you stay in your region and assume things in Southeast. Why not plan a physical visit to Onitsha, Aba, Owerri and Enugu and have a first hand experience even though the FG induced insecurity in Southeast have reduced economic activities in Southeast since end of Buhari's second tenure that he used wickedness and hatred to disrupt the peace of Southeast through unnecessary clampdown on IPOB and Biafra agitators.



Igbos relocate to Lagos state because Lagos state is Nigeria's commercial center, all thanks to Colonial masters and Nigeria's Federal Government and it's policies even before independence.


Nigeria's number one seaport is in Lagos state. And Nigeria is an importation dependent nation. So what do you expect Igbo people that are business oriented people to do; remain in Southeast that federal government intentionally ignored/abandoned it's infrastructures to punish Igbos after the end of the civil war in 1970?


Nigeria's number one international airport is in Lagos.

Nigeria's Central Bank headquarters used to be in Lagos until some time ago that it was relocated to Abuja.


Nigeria's Customs head office was also in Lagos until some years back that it was moved to Abuja but main control office still remain in Lagos.

Nigeria's FAAN, and other aviation regulatory bodies were all in Lagos until Buhari moved them to Abuja few years ago.


All the commercial, mortgage, etc bank head offices are all in Lagos till today.


All foreign country embassies and mission offices are either in Lagos or Abuja. So before any Igbo man travels out of Nigeria for his business or study or tourism/vacation, etc, he must visit Lagos to obtain visa, etc, so what do you expect; Igbos remain in Southeast when you refused them from having their own country with these offices in their country, so that you can then know if they would remain in Lagos or return to their new country?


Virtually all International Oil Companies' head offices are in Lagos state. And lots more.


All these are in Lagos because Lagos was Nigeria's former capital city and the only city to have held that status for decades.


All these make federal government of Nigeria to make policies to favor Lagos state, and also build infrastructures to support Lagos state's status.


So it is natural for all Nigerians, including foreigners to prefer Lagos state more than any other state in Nigeria for economic survival, job hunting, business establishment and whatnot because Nigeria's Federal Government policies already favored Lagos to succeed more than any other state in Nigeria.


This is why it seems like Igbos relocate to Lagos a lot, it is not rocket science, it is natural based on the facts and indices I already gave.


Another issue is the civil war and culture.

Just like Fulanis who are mostly nomads by culture and nature, Igbos are another economic/business nomad tribe in Nigeria. An average Igbo man can relocate to a remote community he spots an opportunity to establish a thriving business/trade without minding the lack of modern amenities and harshness of that community. He would sit tight doing his trade judiciously, serving the people of that community until modernization comes to that place and by then he will become the shining star or the owner of the most thriving business in that once forgotten community. This is Igbo people's lifestyle. He may come from Onitsha with electricity, paved road, modern healthcare, etc but still relocate to a remote community in far away North where he believes he would thrive faster with less competition, and you may think his community is a forest for him to come to such remote community to reside.


He must have weighed his chances of surviving in his more developed Onitsha town with lots of competition with other big business owners and decided to relocate to where he would survive faster. This is why most Igbos relocate to different parts of Nigeria and abroad. Igbos by nature are economic nomads or trade/business nomads.


Again like I said, Biafra civil war also played a role. Southeast and Igbos survived the civil war and bounced back without government officially rebuilding Southeast after the war like other countries that fought such war did mostly because of Igbo people's business/trade Nomadic lifestyle. So how can you be comparing Southeast with Lagos or Kano, Kaduna, etc in development when they didn't witness any war like Southeast? Are you aware that virtually all major infrastructure in Southeast built by the colonial masters were all destroyed during the civil war whereas those built in Lagos, Kano, Kaduna, etc are all in tact, so how can any sane human being even compare Southeast development with other Nigerian regions that didn't witness war in their region? Southeast ought to be getting kudos and also used as example of a region that rose from fall on its own without federal government help.


Lastly, you asked why Peter Obi didn't transform Anambra to be a developed city comparable to Europe, etc or even Lagos?

I already answered why you shouldn't compare Lagos with any Southeast state in the first place. Lagos is Nigeria's commercial capital built by Nigeria's Federal government and all Nigerians plus foreigners due to its status since colonial era.


Next, I hope you understand the system of government Nigeria operates which makes the President the all and all that determines how any region or state develops in Nigeria which is why progressive Nigerians are clamoring for restructuring? No Nigerian state can develop and remain secured if the incumbent President of Nigeria doesn't want it to happen. I hope you aware that no State Governor in Nigeria controls the security of his or her state? The President controls everything.


I hope you know how federal allocation is shared among the 36 states in Nigeria? It's based on:

1.) population
2.) natural resources revenue derivation

Because of the factors I earlier pointed out, Lagos, Kano, Kaduna, etc get the largest share of allocation based on population, while Delta, Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom get the highest allocation based on crude oil revenue.

So where do you expect an Anambra state Governor to get the trillions to turn Anambra state to Lagos or Kano? Anambra is a very young state carved out of Enugu not long ago, Anambra doesn't have the population of Lagos or Kano because of lack of federal government presence compared to Lagos, Kano, Rivers, Delta, etc since the end of the civil war. So the little development Anambra witnessed is self made through indigenous people of Anambra and few none indigenous investors, and then the Onitsha main market.


So you cannot compare the opportunities, resources and revenue available to a Lagos or Kano or Rivers or Delta or Kaduna or Akwa Ibom Governor to that available to an Anambra Governor. This you must take note of.


So if Peter Obi says he is going to do this and this as a President of Nigeria, you should not antagonize him by comparatively asking why didn't he do them in Anambra which is a smaller, young state with lesser resources and opportunities compared to Lagos, etc. With the little Obi did with the small resources and opportunities available to him as an Anambra Governor, then it means he is more than capable to do more with larger resources, opportunities and power to back it up as the President.


Why people like me say Tinubu did not perform as a Lagos state Governor is because Lagos state Governor have the world at his tip. Lagos state alone is richer than so many countries and it is no singular person's making, but owes tribute to Colonial masters, Nigeria's Federal Government, Nigeria's crude oil resources, and then all Nigerians.


And like I said, why I say Tinubu did not perform as Lagos state Governor is because I know that without his grip on Lagos state treasury, if Lagos were to be governed by a whiteman, believe me, Lagos will be competing with top global cities like London, Tokyo, Adelaide, etc because Lagos state have all that it takes to develop more than it is today.
Make your point simple and short if you want people to ready it. Am sure most pple will not read this hogwash.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by givedemwotowoto: 5:34pm On Jul 05, 2024
JagabanB:
Like voter's intimidation didn't happen in SE, always playing the vîctîm.
The difference between both of us is that I am calling out voter intimidation as a crime while you’re defending the crime with excuses

Are you one of those criminals who intimidated voters in Lagos? Why are you defending their actions?

Go to a saner clime like the US or the UK and do it and tell them you did it because it happened elsewhere
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Mrfeel: 6:10pm On Jul 05, 2024
Bitterkola100:
Yorubas are even far more liberal, at least i can count many igbos holding political positions in yoruba land and even one here in edo state.
Have you ever seen a non igbo in any political position in the east?

In fact as an enugu man you cannot contest any election in anambra.
The question should be how many yoruba's are living in igbo land and contributing to the economic development of igbo land like igbos are doing in Yoruba land? Those igbos holding political positions in Yoruba land or Edo , do you know what they have done in Yoruba land or Edo for them to be given that position?
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Fortruth: 6:13pm On Jul 05, 2024
JagabanB:
If lgb0s didn't talk about removing Obas and sending Yorubas packing from Lagos, what went down wouldn't have gone down.
It’s in your head that such things happened.

Fear fear people… fear wont even let you think with sense

Ode
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Mrfeel: 6:21pm On Jul 05, 2024
JagabanB:
If lgb0s didn't talk about removing Obas and sending Yorubas packing from Lagos, what went down wouldn't have gone down.
Igbos removing oba's and sending yoruba's packing? How? Can you give any example in history of how igbos dethroned oba's and send yoruba's out of their lands ? Are you mistaking igbos for fulanis?
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by JagabanB: 7:57pm On Jul 05, 2024
Mrfeel:
Igbos removing oba's and sending yoruba's packing? How? Can you give any example in history of how igbos dethroned oba's and send yoruba's out of their lands ? Are you mistaking igbos for fulanis?
Can u read?
If u can, can u comprehend?
If u can, u won't be asking this question.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by JagabanB: 7:57pm On Jul 05, 2024
Fortruth:
It’s in your head that such things happened.

Fear fear people… fear wont even let you think with sense

Ode
Seems Twitter is my head, denying what they did just one year ago.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by JagabanB: 8:01pm On Jul 05, 2024
givedemwotowoto:
The difference between both of us is that I am calling out voter intimidation as a crime while you’re defending the crime with excuses

Are you one of those criminals who intimidated voters in Lagos? Why are you defending their actions?

Go to a saner clime like the US or the UK and do it and tell them you did it because it happened elsewhere
I expected this message from u, I don't stay in Lagos, I don't vote in Lagos, I stay and vote in Abuja.
If u are calling out voters intimidation, u won't focus on one part because u know it happened in different places, this is exactly what Obi does, crîtîcize what happens in other places and prètènd it doesn't happen in SE, when he's called out, his mób wiII defènd, if u are calling out voter's intimidation, do it everywhere, dón't prètènd to do that while focussing on only one place.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by givedemwotowoto: 8:22pm On Jul 05, 2024
JagabanB:
I expected this message from u, I don't stay in Lagos, I don't vote in Lagos, I stay and vote in Abuja.
If u are calling out voters intimidation, u won't focus on one part because u know it happened in different places, this is exactly what Obi does, crîtîcize what happens in other places and prètènd it doesn't happen in SE, when he's called out, his mób wiII defènd, if u are calling out voter's intimidation, do it everywhere, dón't prètènd to do that while focussing on only one place.
So what you’re saying is that if Betta Edu is caught stealing billions of naira, we should free her till we find all the thieves who have stolen money in Nigeria?

Do you see how warped your reasoning is because of tribal bigotry? You now defend crime because of tribal bigotry
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by JagabanB: 8:29pm On Jul 05, 2024
givedemwotowoto:
So what you’re saying is that if Betta Edu is caught stealing billions of naira, we should free her till we find all the thieves who have stolen money in Nigeria?

Do you see how warped your reasoning is because of tribal bigotry? You now defend crime because of tribal bigotry
Yes, because u have seen me clapping for Beta Edu and defending her right?
What happened in Lagos happened simultaneously with what happened in SE, but u all prètènd it didn't happen in SE, but magnify the one of Lagos and in ur profound hypócrîsy, u prètènd u are calling out voters intimidation, what did u say about the one in SE?
How does it correlate with ur analogy of Beta Edu and waiting till we find another crîmînaI?
Why prètènd one is not a crîmînaI and label the other crîmînaI when they both stoIe at same time?
U have seen how warped ur analogy is because of tribaI bîgotry?
I am not a Yoruba, so how does my statement about Lagos translate to trîbè or u dón't know what trîbè means?
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by flokii: 8:30pm On Jul 05, 2024
This tribalism you pained losers are crying about has its root in Igboland (South East).

A yoruba or Hausa can't contest for councilor post in any of the wards in the 5 SE States but Igbos are vying for elective offices in other parts of the country.
To make matters worse, an Anambra person can't work in Abia or Imo State civil service and vice versa.. Speaks alot about those clamouring for one seperate nation biafra.

We Yorubas are one and united!

The only avenue for the Igbo man to feel good about himself is "One Nigeria".. once they cross to their enclave, the caste system, hatred and division sets in. This is why they are scattered across the nook and cranny of the country hoping never to see what will drive them back home to the East.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by 2DADDEY: 8:35pm On Jul 05, 2024
Chukwudi rest. Moronic gaslighting can't have effect on us Omoluabi again.
You go to your cursed evil Forest of South East and vote Chinedu the doomed Yoruba hater as your governor.

You try nonsense in 2027 A gbo Ewuro soju eyin Atokowabaleje iran Elede Jatijati!! angry angry
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by paramakina202: 8:39pm On Jul 05, 2024
CyrusVI:
Shebi Gbadebo na Yoruba, so why are Igbos trying to make it seem like its about them

Other Yorubas lost and the Igbos didnt say anything about that.

So why GRV specificallyhuh Isnt he a normal Yoruba guy like Jandor?
Why was Igbos targeted in Lagos before and after the election?
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by flokii: 8:42pm On Jul 05, 2024
2DADDEY:
Chukwudi rest. Moronic gaslighting can't have effect on us Omoluabi again.
You go to your cursed evil Forest of South East and vote Chinedu the doomed Yoruba hater as your governor.

You try nonsense in 2027 A gbo Ewuro soju eyin Atokowabaleje iran Elede Jatijati!! angry angry
The victory was in 2023.. it has changed our trajectory and that of our adversaries forever.

The soldiers that flooded Lagos in 2023 will flood Anambra, Abia and co. in 2027 while Lagos boiz will run proper show that 2027.

A Yoruba adage says.. 'Once God has shown you your enemy, he/she has no hold over you again'.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by givedemwotowoto:
JagabanB:
Yes, because u have seen me clapping for Beta Edu and defending her right?
What happened in Lagos happened simultaneously with what happened in SE, but u all prètènd it didn't happen in SE, but magnify the one of Lagos and in ur profound hypócrîsy, u prètènd u are calling out voters intimidation, what did u say about the one in SE?
How does it correlate with ur analogy of Beta Edu and waiting till we find another crîmînaI?
Why prètènd one is not a crîmînaI and label the other crîmînaI when they both stoIe at same time?
U have seen how warped ur analogy is because of tribaI bîgotry?
I am not a Yoruba, so how does my statement about Lagos translate to trîbè or u dón't know what trîbè means?
It looks like the word “analogy” is a big word for you due to your literacy level so let’s forget about Betta Edu for now. School no be scam sha

Now back to the topic. The topic I started with was what happened in Lagos during the elections, and you quickly started making excuses in support of the crime, saying it happened because Igbos were doing this and that, true or false?

And when you were called out for supporting the crime, you quickly started deflecting, saying it happened in Anambra also, true or false?

A crime was committed in Lagos and you’re already calling out Igbos and mentioning Anambra in the same discussion. You assume someone else’s ethnicity for calling out a crime in Lagos but you don’t like people to assume your ethnicity.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by pacificom: 8:54pm On Jul 05, 2024
Yorubas are the most welcoming and hospitable tribe in Nigeria. You can leave in Yoruba land and feel 100% at home. Our cosmopolitan environment proves this fact that we tolerate other tribes in good spirit and make room for them to even do their businesses and secure jobs.
Any tribe that is hating the Yorubas should seek for forgiveness and ask yourself if Yorubas are living in same number in their own place as we host other tribes in southwest.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by ednut1(m): 9:23pm On Jul 05, 2024
Igbos in lagos have gone to House of Representatives . The year Hon Nwulu won there was another igbo woman. This last elections igbos and non Yorubas in lagos contested and won. Sabon Gari in the North is dominated by Igbos why have they not contested therehuh . And Ebonyi man cant even contest in Anambra even down to market leadership.

The most accommodating tribe in Nigeria is still Yoruba.

Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Neckpresser101: 9:40pm On Jul 05, 2024
Mrfeel:
Igbos removing oba's and sending yoruba's packing? How? Can you give any example in history of how igbos dethroned oba's and send yoruba's out of their lands ? Are you mistaking igbos for fulanis?
you're expecting them give you evidence


its all delusion from their deep genetically engrained LOW SELF ESTEEM

these guys have the lowest self esteem
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Neckpresser101: 9:41pm On Jul 05, 2024
ednut1:
Igbos in lagos have gone to House of Representatives . The year Hon Nwulu won there was another igbo woman. This last elections igbos and non Yorubas in lagos contested and won. Sabon Gari in the North is dominated by Igbos why have they not contested therehuh . And Ebonyi man cant even contest in Anambra even down to market leadership.

The most accommodating tribe in Nigeria is still Yoruba.
No body stops Yorubas from voting or getting voted for in SE


if you can come here and contest


una dey UK dey win Elections make person hear word
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Okwyjesus(m): 9:42pm On Jul 05, 2024
ibechris:
An Igbo man is reminded that he can’t contest for governor in Lagos or even freely vote in Lagos. And same applies even in the east to be honest. But Yorubas set up a Yoruba Party in the UK & expect to be accepted & voted into seats in another man’s country.

Credit: Ayo
Funny tribe

I thought they don't engage in politics outside their region.

Very funny people
I mean extremely funny
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Ofemannnu: 9:52pm On Jul 05, 2024
Okwyjesus:
Funny tribe

I thought they don't engage in politics outside their region.

Very funny people
I mean extremely funny
Igbos toxicity is the cause of some of these infractions even in South Africa,Ghana etc.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Okwyjesus(m): 9:57pm On Jul 05, 2024
Ofemannnu:
Igbos toxicity is the cause of some of these infractions even in South Africa,Ghana etc.
Which hole are you coming from?

Your write up is incoherent
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by Ofemannnu: 10:01pm On Jul 05, 2024
Okwyjesus:
Which hole are you coming from?

Your write up is incoherent
Igbos should interrogate themselves and minimise or eradicate their toxicity.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by walefresh3(m): 10:24pm On Jul 05, 2024
givedemwotowoto:
Again, STOP defending crimes or giving lame excuses.

Tinubu supporters are the only ones I see defending political crimes with the excuse that it happens elsewhere
Upon all these cry Naa thiefobi will still loss in 2027 election..So , why are you disturbing your self ?

Cry cry baby
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by walefresh3(m): 10:26pm On Jul 05, 2024
phorget:
So Gbadebo is no more CHINEDU?
Nah tribalism go kee una one day.

You always choose the narrative that suits you at every given time, now Lagos is silent and peaceful but when we get to another election period you all will start finding igbos fault. EIEH!
Go back home ...Stop disturbing us with complains....

Don't interfere in our politics....
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by ednut1(m): 10:26pm On Jul 05, 2024
Neckpresser101:
No body stops Yorubas from voting or getting voted for in SE


if you can come here and contest


una dey UK dey win Elections make person hear word
yorubas there dont say things like no mans land, we developed your land nor get involved in politics there. Yorubas in the north also don’t interfere in northern politics . But in our land we allow non Yorubas contest and win.
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by walefresh3(m): 10:29pm On Jul 05, 2024
Okwyjesus:
Funny tribe

I thought they don't engage in politics outside their region.

Very funny people
I mean extremely funny
Go back home to alaigbo

Se they use Yoruba land swear for una ni ?

Go to Anambra wey thiefobi don turn to Eldorado.....

A secessionist like can't dictate for Nigerians....
Re: U See Why Tribalism Is Not Good,see What Some Yorubas Are Doing In The UK. by anungangampu: 10:32pm On Jul 05, 2024
CyrusVI:
Igbos even called Lagos No mans land, threatened to make Igbo the first language in Lagos
Imagine threatening other peoples tradition and wanting really bad to remove their Kings

Its funny tho as i see GRV as a normal Yoruba guy who lost an election, same as Jandor and that A.A

Nah....No sane Human environment would allow such
Who exactly said that? Abi na hear say
They really wash una head
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