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Anyone can claim anything but we are learned for a reason.

It's not by force to be Igbo and no one is begging anyone but don't revise history.

Oba of Benin who is the custodian of Benin history is saying Ikwere has no Benin linkage as the Ikwerre revisionists want to claim. He says Ikwerre are Igbos. We know what oil politics has done to Ikwerre people

Any igbo that will abuse great oba of Benin will not die well. Because our forefathers enslave you people.

When you read the book "ado na idu: the origin of Igbos" you will understand why ikwerre claim they are from Bini.

Esama:
Any igbo that will abuse great oba of Benin will not die well. Because our forefathers enslave you people.

AND NA WE GO SEND UNA BACK TO ILEIFE LAST, LAST, BLOODY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

Let there be peace. You can form a United States of Biafara. Up North is, ONE NORTH. South West same. Why cant the Easterner's Unite.

I am Ikwerre. There is no historical tie between the ikwerres and Igbos. My grandma was from Umuahia and said Igbos have always been a distinct ethnic from Ikwerres. That they called us NDI Ikwerre.
On the Bini connection it is hard for me to agree. But the closeness here is that the ikwerres have a lot in common with the Ekpeye. And the Ekpeye has a lot in common with the Binis. Now the Ekpeye claims they left Bini with the Iwhurnohna (Ikwerre) People. This is where the ikwerres keyed into the Benin narrative.
The Ikwerres have always said they are not Igbos. Ikwerres had Ogbakor Ikwerre in 1963 to identify themselves as a distinct ethnic group even before Igbos remembered to form Ohaneze Ndigbo in 1965. Ikwerre gathered in 1965 to declare their unique identity in a communique released in Rumuomasi even years before the civil war.

Whalis:
I am Ikwerre. There is no historical tie between the ikwerres and Igbos. My grandma was from Umuahia and said Igbos have alway a distinct ethnic from Ikwerres. That they called us NDI Ikwerre.
On the Bini connection it is hard for me to agree. But the closeness here is that the ikwerres have a lot in common with the Ekpeye. And the Ekpeye has a lot in common with the Binis. Now the Ekpeye claims they left Bini with the Iwhurnohna (Ikwerre) People. This is where the ikwerres keyed into the Benin narrative.
The Ikwerres have always said they are not Igbos. Ikwerres had Ogbakor Ikwerre in 1963 to identify themselves as a distinct ethnic group even before Igbos remembered to form Ohaneze Ndigbo in 1965. Ikwerre gathered in 1965 to declare their unique identity in a communique released in Rumuomasi even years before the civil war.

Guy, my own clan in Anambra call Igbos of other states "Ndi Igbo" yet we are as Igbo as others. We call people from Onitsha "Ndi Onitsha" you will also hear "Ndi Nsukka, Ndi Abakaliki, Ndi Ndi Owerri, Etc" that's a normal reference in Igbo land. It doesn't make any of these places a distict ethnic group.

You can not have your entire existence and culture screaming Igbo from name to language to dressing to market days to kingship etc then wake up one morning to claim an ethnic group. Show me any other ethnic group in Nigeria that uses the traditional Igbo 4 market days? You have zero relationship with Bini politically and historically but oil and civil war politics is making the revisionists among you try to scratch water from the rock.

Whalis:
I am Ikwerre. There is no historical tie between the ikwerres and Igbos. My grandma was from Umuahia and said Igbos have alway a distinct ethnic from Ikwerres. That they called us NDI Ikwerre.
On the Bini connection it is hard for me to agree. But the closeness here is that the ikwerres have a lot in common with the Ekpeye. And the Ekpeye has a lot in common with the Binis. Now the Ekpeye claims they left Bini with the Iwhurnohna (Ikwerre) People. This is where the ikwerres keyed into the Benin narrative.
The Ikwerres have always said they are not Igbos. Ikwerres had Ogbakor Ikwerre in 1963 to identify themselves as a distinct ethnic group even before Igbos remembered to form Ohaneze Ndigbo in 1965. Ikwerre gathered in 1965 to declare their unique identity in a communique released in Rumuomasi even years before the civil war.

You're not making sense. Historically, all Igbo clans called other Igbos "Onye Igbo" or "Ndi Igbo" as if they themselves are not Igbo. Even in these modern times, if an Igbo man is talking about another Igbo man, the adjective he uses to describe him is "Onye Igbo." That means that every Igbo describes every other Igbo as Onye Igbo right from antiquity. That is Igbo culture. We all know that Ikwere started denying their Igboness ONLY during and after the Nigerian civil war. Why were they Igbos before Nigerian politics of crude oil commenced. I do not blame them. After all, those Igbos that maintained their heritage such as Obigbo and Etche are not better off due to British and Nigerian anti-Igbo politics. If Ikwerre are not revising history, why did they add R to their historically Igbo nmes such as Umuokoro and Umuigbo? How caan your village name be Umuigbo and you add R to make it Rumuigbo? Do you even know the meaning of Umuigbo? Children of Igbo.

As far as I'm concerned, you guys can come from stars. Real Igbo are proud of whom they are. The people I blame are pre-colonial Igbo that couldn't unite to stop the British conquest , not some foolish modern ones found in places like Ikwerre that do not know their right from theior left because of oil politics. Perhaps, if you guys were massacred like the people of Asaba, you'd have had reson to know who you are and not be tossed about like ship without rudder.

I pity your children who would be denied by Bini and maybe denied by Igbo. Already, Ikwerre land is the most confused in Southern Nigeria due to your craze to conform and be accepted by Nigeria due to petro dollar.

AlaafinOfOyo:
The people I blame are ancient Igbo that couldn't stop the British conquest , not the foolish modern ones that do not know their right from theior left because of oil politics. Perhaps, if you guys were massacred like the people of Asaba, you'd have had reson to know who you are and not be tossed about like ship without rudder.

I pity your children who would be denied by Bini and maybe denied by Igbo. Already, Ikwerre land is the most confused in Southern Nigeria due to your craze to conform and be accepted by Nigeria due to petro dollar.

AlaafinOfIbo

I don't understand you people.

The Ikwerres don't want to have anything to do with you.

Why not leave them alone? What is this obsession for?

It's so obvious the obsession is all about the Petro dollar. Land grabbers

PHIPEX:
Guy, my own clan in Anambra call Igbos of other states "Ndi Igbo" yet we are as Igbo as others. We call people from Onitsha "Ndi Onitsha" you will also hear "Ndi Nsukka, Ndi Abakaliki, Ndi Ndi Owerri, Etc" that's a normal reference in Igbo land. It doesn't make any of these places a distict ethnic group.

You can not have your entire existence and culture screaming Igbo from name to language to dressing to market days to kingship etc then wake up one morning to claim an ethnic group. Show me any other ethnic group in Nigeria that uses the traditional Igbo 4 market days? You have zero relationship with Bini politically and historically but oil and civil war politics is making the revisionists among you try to scratch water from the rock.

Can you answer this?
How did you know that you are Igbo?
Did someone from Abia come to tell you?
Now I say Bia and I say I am Ikwerre and you say Bia and you say you are Igbo. Is it wise I say since you say the same Bia with me that you are ikwerre? Don't you think Igbos are Ikwerres? Americans (US) were originally from Europe especially The UK. Today US is bigger the UK. If this had happened in the prehistoric times it would have been difficult to believe that US left the UK based on their present size and achievements.
Scientific studies have been carried out in Uniport even by Igbos scientists that established that Ikwerres and Igbos are distinct people. Please check this it is online. The scientists who carried out this studies are Igbos.
Language similarities do not happen only in Igbo and others. It is so in other peoples all over the world. Ukraine and Poland, Sweden and Norway, Finland and Denmark; Urhobo and Isoko, Yoruba and Itsekiri similar language different people.
Igbos should learn how to live with this reality.
Also tell me the Igbo word for Yes.

Esama:
Any igbo that will abuse great oba of Benin will not die well. Because our forefathers enslave you people.

Thats why the so called Benin kingdom is enclaved and restricted to only Edo state... 😂

Tjra:
AlaafinOfOyo

I don't understand you people.

The Ikwerres don't want to have anything to do with you.

Why not leave them alone? What is this obsession for?

It's so obvious the obsession is all about the Petro dollar. Land grabbers

You can never understand us Ndiigbo even if you're given 100 lifetimes to study us. Do you even know the meaning of land grabbing? I doubt it because if you do, you'd be weeping over Ilorin instead of jumping into Ikwerre thread,

AlaafinOfOyo:
You can never understand us Ndiigbo even if you're given 100 lifetimes to study us. Do you even know the meaning of land grabbing? I doubt it because if you do, you'd be weeping over Ilorin instead of jumping into Okwerre thread,

Stay put in landlocked Alaigbo.

Leave oil rich Delta and Rivers alone.

Land thieves

AlaafinOfOyo:
You're not making sense. Historically, all Igbo clans called other Igbos "Onye Igbo" or "Ndi Igbo" as if they themselves are not Igbo. Even in these modern times, if an Igbo man is talking about another Igbo man, the adjective he uses to describe him is "Onye Igbo." That means that every Igbo describes every other Igbo as Onye Igbo right from antiquity. That is Igbo culture. We all know that Ikwere started denying their Igboness ONLY during and after the Nigerian civil war. Why were they Igbos before Nigerian politics of crude oil commenced. I do not blame them. After all, those Igbos that maintained their heritage such as Obigbo and Etche are not better off due to British and Nigerian anti-Igbo politics. If Ikwerre are not revising history, why did they add R to their historically Igbo nmes such as Umuokoro and Umuigbo? How caan your village name be Umuigbo and you add R to make it Rumuigbo? Do you even know the meaning of Umuigbo? Children of Igbo.

As far as I'm concerned, you guys can come from stars. Real Igbo are proud of whom they are. The people I blame are ancient Igbo that couldn't stop the British conquest , not some foolish modern ones found in places like Ikwerre that do not know their right from theior left because of oil politics. Perhaps, if you guys were massacred like the people of Asaba, you'd have had reson to know who you are and not be tossed about like ship without rudder.

I pity your children who would be denied by Bini and maybe denied by Igbo. Already, Ikwerre land is the most confused in Southern Nigeria due to your craze to conform and be accepted by Nigeria due to petro dollar.

The barbaric nature of Igbos is one turn off for every ethnic group in Nigeria. You can differ with me without sounding insultive.
I am Ikwerre. I have no problem if you want to be ikwerre. But for sure ikwerre is not Igbo. Look at typical example of Ikwerre men like Wike does he have anything in common with am Igbo person? None.

Esama:
Any igbo that will abuse great oba of Benin will not die well. Because our forefathers enslave you people.

which tribe no face slave trade.. call your forefathers to come enslave igbos again na.. till today igbos keep using there apprenticeship style in establishing many of its people.. what have you done to impress your own forefathers

Whalis:
Can you answer this?
How did you know that you are Igbo?
Did someone from Abia come to tell you?
Now I say Bia and I say I am Ikwerre and you say Bia and you say you are Igbo. Is it wise I say since you say the same Bia with me that you are ikwerre? Don't you think Igbos are Ikwerres? Americans (US) were originally from Europe especially The UK. Today US is bigger the UK. If this had happened in the prehistoric times it would have been difficult to believe that US left the UK based on their present size and achievements.
Scientific studies have been carried out in Uniport even by Igbos scientists that established that Ikwerres and Igbos are distinct people. Please check this it is online. The scientists who carried out this studies are Igbos.
Language similarities do not happen only in Igbo and others. It is so in other peoples all over the world. Ukraine and Poland, Sweden and Norway, Finland and Denmark; Urhobo and Isoko, Yoruba and Itsekiri similar language different people.
Igbos should learn how to live with this reality.
Also tell me the Igbo word for Yes.

We can also extend your question to what proof do you have that you are an African, Nigerian? Does the fact your parents trained you mean they are actually your parents?

This general madness can go as far as you want. Tell us what qualifies you to be a distinct ethnic group? All you have to show is an online post, that's all. Google the characteristics of an ethnic group and tell us how you are different from an Igbo man apart from online posts by revisionists

Whalis:
Can you answer this?
How did you know that you are Igbo?
Did someone from Abia come to tell you?
Now I say Bia and I say I am Ikwerre and you say Bia and you say you are Igbo. Is it wise I say since you say the same Bia with me that you are were? Don't you think Igbos are Ikwerres? Americans (US) were originally from Europe, especially The UK. Today US is bigger than the UK. If this had happened in prehistoric times it would have been difficult to believe that the US left the UK based on its present size and achievements.
Scientific studies have been carried out in Uniport even by Igbos scientists that established that Ikwerres and Igbos are distinct people. Please check this it is online. The scientists who carried out this study are Igbos.
Language similarities do not happen only in Igbo and others. It is so in other people all over the world. Ukraine and Poland, Sweden and Norway, Finland and Denmark; Urhobo and Isoko, Yoruba and Itsekiri similar languages different people.
Igbos should learn how to live with this reality.
Also, tell me the Igbo word for Yes.

It wasn't Igbos that said Ikwerre is a sibling to Ngwa, it was Ikwerre who said so.

My question becomes if your people said Ngwa and Ikwerre are of the same mother and the same father. What scientific study differentiates between two siblings?

Scientific study that couldn't produce toothpicks let alone differentiate ethnicity and race.

Whalis:
Can you answer this?
How did you know that you are Igbo?
Did someone from Abia come to tell you?
Now I say Bia and I say I am Ikwerre and you say Bia and you say you are Igbo. Is it wise I say since you say the same Bia with me that you are ikwerre? Don't you think Igbos are Ikwerres? Americans (US) were originally from Europe especially The UK. Today US is bigger the UK. If this had happened in the prehistoric times it would have been difficult to believe that US left the UK based on their present size and achievements.
Scientific studies have been carried out in Uniport even by Igbos scientists that established that Ikwerres and Igbos are distinct people. Please check this it is online. The scientists who carried out this studies are Igbos.
Language similarities do not happen only in Igbo and others. It is so in other peoples all over the world. Ukraine and Poland, Sweden and Norway, Finland and Denmark; Urhobo and Isoko, Yoruba and Itsekiri similar language different people.
Igbos should learn how to live with this reality.
Also tell me the Igbo word for Yes.

Oga rest
The Binis are denying you guys
Have some shame

Whalis:
The barbaric nature of Igbos is one turn off for every ethnic group in Nigeria. You can differ with me without sounding insultive.
I am Ikwerre. I have no problem if you want to be ikwerre. But for sure ikwerre is not Igbo. Look at typical example of Ikwerre men like Wike does he have anything in common with am Igbo person? None.

EVERY A F O N J A claiming Ikwerre. Ride on.

Tjra:
AlaafinOfIbo

I don't understand you people.

The Ikwerres don't want to have anything to do with you.

Why not leave them alone? What is this obsession for?

It's so obvious the obsession is all about the Petro dollar. Land grabbers

You foo#ish alaafin of runo, you will have no sympathy for the people of the oil region on the disaster your terrorist government are perpertuating on them But only know how to instigate enemity

tishbite42:
Oga rest
The Binis are denying you guys
Have some shame

What they do not understand is that they have become a disgrace to Ndiigbo. Ndigbo si na ozu siwe isi, enyi ka nwanne a laaa.

Tjra:
Stay put in landlocked Alaigbo.

Leave oil rich Delta and Rivers alone.

Land thieves

When are you recovering Ilorin from Fulani? At least, Ikwerre still own their land...

Fighttillvictory:
You foo#ish alaafin of runo, you will have no sympathy for the people of the oil region on the disaster your terrorist government are perpertuating on them But only know how to instigate enemity

You have sympathy for them, yet your forefathers killed and subjugated them just for their resources and access to the Ocean. All thanks to the Nigerian government who were able to liberate them from your cold killer hands.

The people of Niger-Delta are as big as every other ethnic group. Don't see yourself as a big brother and them as minority that you will enslave.

If not that you all are shameless, you ought to know they should be the ones to lobby to join you. And not the other way round. Just imagine people of Southwest forcing Yorubas in parts of Kwara, Kogi and Benin Republic to be a part of Oduduwa.

Let them choose by themselves. Show some class.

Why nah?

Why is every tribe dissociating from the Igbos?

AlaafinOfOyo:
What they do not understand is that they have become a disgrace to Ndiigbo. Ndigbo si na ozu siwe isi, enyi ka nwanne a laaa.

I don't blame
The Igbos are still extending hands to them and that's they are misbehaving

PHIPEX:
We can also extend your question to what proof do you have that you are an African, Nigerian? Does the fact your parents trained you mean they are actually your parents?

This general madness can go as far as you want. Tell us what qualifies you to be a distinct ethnic group? All you have to show is an online post, that's all. Google the characteristics of an ethnic group and tell us how you are different from an Igbo man apart from online posts by revisionists

Can you accept to be ikwerre? Since ikwerre have a lot in common with Igbos don't you think Igbos are Ikwerres?

Whalis:
Can you answer this?
How did you know that you are Igbo?
Did someone from Abia come to tell you?
Now I say Bia and I say I am Ikwerre and you say Bia and you say you are Igbo. Is it wise I say since you say the same Bia with me that you are ikwerre? Don't you think Igbos are Ikwerres? Americans (US) were originally from Europe especially The UK. Today US is bigger the UK. If this had happened in the prehistoric times it would have been difficult to believe that US left the UK based on their present size and achievements.
Scientific studies have been carried out in Uniport even by Igbos scientists that established that Ikwerres and Igbos are distinct people. Please check this it is online. The scientists who carried out this studies are Igbos.
Language similarities do not happen only in Igbo and others. It is so in other peoples all over the world. Ukraine and Poland, Sweden and Norway, Finland and Denmark; Urhobo and Isoko, Yoruba and Itsekiri similar language different people.
Igbos should learn how to live with this reality.
Also tell me the Igbo word for Yes.

Guy nobody is forcing you to be Igbo but if you must argue then argue with Oba of Bini who wrote in his book that Ikwerre are Igbo not Bini.

Esama:
Any igbo that will abuse great oba of Benin will not die well. Because our forefathers enslave you people.

No lies. Even the Ijaw, Itsekiri and the biggest enslaved of them all - the igala.

RichBoy247:
Why nah?

Why is every tribe dissociating from the Igbos?

Not just Nigerian tribes. Same story all over the world.

Esama:
Any igbo that will abuse great oba of Benin will not die well. Because our forefathers enslave you people.

see this foreign goat,ur papa wey dey naked climb tree like monkey na u dey talk abi na dey one wey dey suck goat breast directly you be?? Ur papa wey be slave to aboki from time abi

AlaafinOfOyo:
When are you recovering Ilorin from Fulani? At least, Ikwerre still own their land...

Once ibos recover their lands in Enugu, abekeleke, and Anambra from the igalas.

Whalis:
Can you accept to be ikwerre? Since ikwerre have a lot in common with Igbos don't you think Igbos are Ikwerres?

Yes, after you agree that you gave birth to your parents since both of you have same similarities.