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Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Whalis: 8:34pm On Jul 06, 2024
Polchiz:
What for?
That you have granted us independence today.
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Dalohad:
Whalis:
Can you see how pained you are? That is how I feel whenever you associate me with Igbo tag. Igbo is a big ethnic group and the tendency of annexing other related group is there. That is what we everyday want to let people know that despite our similarities that we differ. I can't answer your father's name because we look alike. Your father told you who you are just as my father told me. Ikwerre man only in language has some similarities with the Igbos but in every other way we are dissimilar. We don't travel you travel. We are content with what we have you are insatiable with your achievements.
Mr Ikwerre, number one, I am yoruba.

You cannot be answering Elechi, and Amadi and be claiming another tribe's name, while you are of a different ethic stock..

Ibos have the right to call you out. Because when you commit crimes while bearing their names, they get the blame, while some you Ikwerre hide in background, sometimes even join in insulting the Ibos. We yorubas know you are all Omo Ibos.

The Solution: Since we agree with you that you are Bini, you will have to delinguinize and de-acculturate yourselves of the Ibo/Ibiod languages and names.

You can then re-linguinize and re-acculturate yourselves with the Bini names and traditions of your Bini ancestors, for proper identification. You can achieve this within one generation, starting from today..
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Yaribanzaonic: 9:52pm On Jul 06, 2024
grin

Thormentor:
lagosians are already trying to distance themselves from them


do you notice none of them like identifying with thier states of Origin

all of them are lagosians online till they deported few Osun miscreants
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by nonhuman(m): 10:29pm On Jul 06, 2024
Esama:
Any igbo that will abuse great oba of Benin will not die well. Because our forefathers enslave you people.
the oba have not said anything wrong why should any Igbo attack him, igbos don't attack upright people
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 10:32pm On Jul 06, 2024
Which oba of Benin said so?
Why are you folk so fond of lies?
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 10:34pm On Jul 06, 2024
PHIPEX:
Anyone can claim anything but we are learned for a reason.

It's not by force to be Igbo and no one is begging anyone but don't revise history.

Oba of Benin who is the custodian of Benin history is saying Ikwere has no Benin linkage as the Ikwerre revisionists want to claim. He says Ikwerre are Igbos. We know what oil politics has done to Ikwerre people
Said what when and where?
Can you name the Oba and tell us exactly what he said and where?
Why are you people so fond of lies
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 10:35pm On Jul 06, 2024
Dalohad:
Mr Ikwerre, number one, I am yoruba.

You cannot be answering Elechi, and Amadi and be claiming another tribe's name.

Ibos have the right to call you out. Because when you commit crimes while bearing their names, they get the blame. We yorubas know you are all Omo Ibos.

The Solution: Since we agree with you that you are Bini, you will have to delinguinize and de-acculturate yourselve of the Ibo/Ibiod languages and names.

You can then re-linguinize yourselves with Bini names of your ancestors, for proper identification.
Ikwerre is a language on its own
It is not Ibo

They are very distinct
They even have their own Bible if you didn't know
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by irepnaija4eva(m): 10:38pm On Jul 06, 2024
Gajagojo:
Said what when and where?
Can you name the Oba and tell us exactly what he said and where?
Why are you people so fond of lies
Go to the first page bro...
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo:
I see a book talking about the 1930s stating

Igbos

Nobody wrote Igbos in those days
They wrote Ibos or Eboes
In Things Fall Apart
Achebe wrote. Ibo
Not
Igbo




Fact check me
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 10:39pm On Jul 06, 2024
irepnaija4eva:
Go to the first page bro...
You tell us please
You can only deceive illiterate folk like you
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 10:44pm On Jul 06, 2024
Yaribanzaonic:
Ikwerre matter... Confirmed by the OBA of Benin.

Yoruba Analysis... based on tribal hate and generational foolishness is on display on this thread.

Same Yoruba don't have an OBA in ILORIN..

These people sef... Na wa..
Eze Aro dynasty established by Nnubi brothers

They were Akamkpa and rule Aro till this day
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by irepnaija4eva(m): 10:46pm On Jul 06, 2024
Gajagojo:
You tell us please
You can only deceive illiterate folk like you
Young man are you blind? .. Go and read.
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by BiafIntel: 10:48pm On Jul 06, 2024
Whalis:
I am Ikwerre. There is no historical tie between the ikwerres and Igbos. My grandma was from Umuahia and said Igbos have always been a distinct ethnic from Ikwerres. That they called us NDI Ikwerre.
On the Bini connection it is hard for me to agree. But the closeness here is that the ikwerres have a lot in common with the Ekpeye. And the Ekpeye has a lot in common with the Binis. Now the Ekpeye claims they left Bini with the Iwhurnohna (Ikwerre) People. This is where the ikwerres keyed into the Benin narrative.
The Ikwerres have always said they are not Igbos. Ikwerres had Ogbakor Ikwerre in 1963 to identify themselves as a distinct ethnic group even before Igbos remembered to form Ohaneze Ndigbo in 1965. Ikwerre gathered in 1965 to declare their unique identity in a communique released in Rumuomasi even years before the civil war.
Some of you are so daft and dumb. You just displayed the dumbness inherited from your so called grand mother. A grown up like you can't reason for yourself, but is basing your nonsense argument on what an illiterate grand mother told you. Have you ot heard of Ndi Anambra, Ndi Imo, Ebonyi, Enugu Abia and so on? Have you not heard Onitsha people calling other Igbos nwa onye Igbo? Does that make Onitsha people none Igbos? Some of you are very very slow.
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 10:49pm On Jul 06, 2024
irepnaija4eva:
Young man are you blind? .. Go and read.
I do not believe your father can call me young man or ask if I am blind


This is what the current Oba of Benin said
The Oba of Benin said his visit was aimed at strengthening friendly and close relationships between the people.

“I am here to strengthen the friendly relationship and close affinity of our people. History has it that some of the tribes here trace their ancestry to Benin. These include the Ikwerres, the people of Ahoada and Omoku,’’ he said.


A lie can run for 100 y3ars but the truth will catch it with one step
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 10:50pm On Jul 06, 2024
OBA OF BENIN SAID


The Oba of Benin said his visit was aimed at strengthening friendly and close relationships between the people.

“I am here to strengthen the friendly relationship and close affinity of our people. History has it that some of the tribes here trace their ancestry to Benin. These include the Ikwerres, the people of Ahoada and Omoku,’’ he said.



https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/south-south-regional/372644-wike-to-benin-monarch-resolve-oshimohole-obaseki-feud.html?tztc=1
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Sergio108: 11:10pm On Jul 06, 2024
Dalohad:
Mr Ikwerre, number one, I am yoruba.

You cannot be answering Elechi, and Amadi and be claiming another tribe's name.

Ibos have the right to call you out. Because when you commit crimes while bearing their names, they get the blame. We yorubas know you are all Omo Ibos.

The Solution: Since we agree with you that you are Bini, you will have to delinguinize and de-acculturate yourselve of the Ibo/Ibiod languages and names.

You can then re-linguinize yourselves with Bini names of your ancestors, for proper identification.
Simple!

@Whalis.....you know the funny thing?...you will keep on wasting tangible productive time here on nairaland on this issue everyday.

Till tommorow.....we see Ikwere as igbo
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by PHIPEX(op): 11:16pm On Jul 06, 2024
Gajagojo:
Said what when and where?
Can you name the Oba and tell us exactly what he said and where?
Why are you people so fond of lies
If.you did your WAEC yourself, go back to the first page and read the attached document
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Kingri: 11:18pm On Jul 06, 2024
Esama:
Any igbo that will abuse great oba of Benin will not die well. Because our forefathers enslave you people.
You are sick in the head .. your stupidity as a black man has made you take the Europeans as friends and hate your fellow black
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 11:22pm On Jul 06, 2024
PHIPEX:
If.you did your WAEC yourself, go back to the first page and read the attached document
You talk stupidly
In evidence. The claimant leads evidence

Let him declare what he is telling us and the source


The current Oba made a statement in Port Harcourt
I gave the statement and source


So if you have nothing intelligible to say shut your dirty mouth
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Abagworo(m): 12:08am On Jul 07, 2024
Whalis:
I am Ikwerre. There is no historical tie between the ikwerres and Igbos. My grandma was from Umuahia and said Igbos have always been a distinct ethnic from Ikwerres. That they called us NDI Ikwerre.
On the Bini connection it is hard for me to agree. But the closeness here is that the ikwerres have a lot in common with the Ekpeye. And the Ekpeye has a lot in common with the Binis. Now the Ekpeye claims they left Bini with the Iwhurnohna (Ikwerre) People. This is where the ikwerres keyed into the Benin narrative.
The Ikwerres have always said they are not Igbos. Ikwerres had Ogbakor Ikwerre in 1963 to identify themselves as a distinct ethnic group even before Igbos remembered to form Ohaneze Ndigbo in 1965. Ikwerre gathered in 1965 to declare their unique identity in a communique released in Rumuomasi even years before the civil war.
Ikwerres are Igbos but not Isuama or Etche that's the difference. Prior to modernization there was no generally accepted term for everyone now called Igbo as each district had a distinct name they identified with and many never even knew the word Igbo existed. However in diaspora they developed common identity.

Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by GrandFinale2021(m): 12:55am On Jul 07, 2024
BiafIntel:
Some of you are so daft and dumb. You just displayed the dumbness inherited from your so called grand mother. A grown up like you can't reason for yourself, but is basing your nonsense argument on what an illiterate grand mother told you. Have you ot heard of Ndi Anambra, Ndi Imo, Ebonyi, Enugu Abia and so on? Have you not heard Onitsha people calling other Igbos nwa onye Igbo? Does that make Onitsha people none Igbos? Some of you are very very slow.
chai the thing pain this man well well.
Stop forcing yourselves on people who don't want you nor like you
Ikwerres are not anyway affiliated to Igbos.
During the civil war, Biafra soldiers invaded Ikwerre land,killed their men and renamed those towns with igbo names.
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by okoloto: 1:20am On Jul 07, 2024
Ikwere people migrated from nkwerre in imo state. Go and ask apiti 1 of rumueme
Why does ikwerres speak Igbo and bear Igbo names. Most ikwere names are more Igbo than what you will find in some Igbo states
95% of ikwere people speaks and understands Igbo without being taught because of the similarity. I grew up in port Harcourt
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by PHIPEX(op): 9:41am On Jul 07, 2024
Gajagojo:
OBA OF BENIN SAID


The Oba of Benin said his visit was aimed at strengthening friendly and close relationships between the people.

“I am here to strengthen the friendly relationship and close affinity of our people. History has it that some of the tribes here trace their ancestry to Benin. These include the Ikwerres, the people of Ahoada and Omoku,’’ he said.



https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/south-south-regional/372644-wike-to-benin-monarch-resolve-oshimohole-obaseki-feud.html?tztc=1
What does "Ikwerre and Etche being the typical Igbo..." mean in simple English?
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 3:09pm On Jul 07, 2024
PHIPEX:
What does "Ikwerre and Etche being the typical Igbo..." mean in simple English?
I have shown evidence and a source for what I showed

I don't know where you got that crap from
So give a citation that is if you know the meaning of the word
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by phantom(m): 3:40pm On Jul 07, 2024
Whalis:
The barbaric nature of Igbos is one turn off for every ethnic group in Nigeria. You can differ with me without sounding insultive.
I am Ikwerre. I have no problem if you want to be ikwerre. But for sure ikwerre is not Igbo. Look at typical example of Ikwerre men like Wike does he have anything in common with am Igbo person? None.
grin grin.. how old are you?? Children everywhere on nairaland. Wike aka Nwike is not Igbo even when he dresses with the customary red igbo cap and speaks a language I understand more than afikpo or nsukka in the core South East??

Like I keep telling fellow igbos, leave the ikweeres... they say they are not Igbo, no wahala 😂... we all know the truth...they also know the truth.

We've had this discussion a million times in the early days of nairaland and it all ended with we igbos laughing at them like our misguided siblings which they are. Let it rest!

But also remind them that it is their turn to produce president Ohana eze ndigbo... an organisation the revered Obi Wali and many other respected ikwerre were a part of.
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by PHIPEX(op): 3:41pm On Jul 07, 2024
Gajagojo:
I have shown evidence and a source for what I showed

I don't know where you got that crap from
So give a citation that is if you know the meaning of the word
Go and tell Oba of Benin that he wrote crap in his own book. I wonder which other citation you need. I doubt you even know who the Oba himself is

Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by kedeojo(m): 3:44pm On Jul 07, 2024
tishbite42:
I don't blame
The Igbos are still extending hands to them and that's they are misbehaving
They said they don't won't the hand of fellowship. Is it by force. If not the oil they had, you people will not have been trying to force relationship. They have decide were they want.
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 3:47pm On Jul 07, 2024
PHIPEX:
Go and tell Oba of Benin that he wrote crap in his own book. I wonder which other citation you need. I doubt you even know who the Oba himself is
You are claiming what exactly?
Make a citation then we can talk without that nothing to discuss


The Oba of Benin said his visit was aimed at strengthening friendly and close relationships between the people.

“I am here to strengthen the friendly relationship and close affinity of our people. History has it that some of the tribes here trace their ancestry to Benin. These include the Ikwerres, the people of Ahoada and Omoku,’’ he said.



https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/south-south-regional/372644-wike-to-benin-monarch-resolve-oshimohole-obaseki-feud.html?tztc=1


Thi s is my citation of what the current Oba said


A citation must have a source
If a book
Tell us your quote
The name of the book
Year of publication
Author
Quotation and pages cited

Anything short of that is fake news
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 5:57pm On Jul 07, 2024
Gajagojo:
Eze Aro dynasty established by Nnubi brothers

They were Akamkpa and rule Aro till this day
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 7:21pm On Jul 07, 2024
Gajagojo:
Eze Aro dynasty established by Nnubi brothers

They were Akamkpa and rule Aro till this day
nn
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by Gajagojo: 7:24pm On Jul 07, 2024
PHIPEX:
Go and tell Oba of Benin that he wrote crap in his own book. I wonder which other citation you need. I doubt you even know who the Oba himself is
I am still waiting to hear from you
Name of the book
Name of the author
Publisher
Year of publication
Pages you are citing

The exact quote
Re: Oba Of Benin's Position On Ikwere Heritage by ComradeNap: 7:53pm On Jul 07, 2024
Whalis:
Can you answer this?
How did you know that you are Igbo?
Did someone from Abia come to tell you?
Now I say Bia and I say I am Ikwerre and you say Bia and you say you are Igbo. Is it wise I say since you say the same Bia with me that you are ikwerre? Don't you think Igbos are Ikwerres? Americans (US) were originally from Europe especially The UK. Today US is bigger the UK. If this had happened in the prehistoric times it would have been difficult to believe that US left the UK based on their present size and achievements.
Scientific studies have been carried out in Uniport even by Igbos scientists that established that Ikwerres and Igbos are distinct people. Please check this it is online. The scientists who carried out this studies are Igbos.
Language similarities do not happen only in Igbo and others. It is so in other peoples all over the world. Ukraine and Poland, Sweden and Norway, Finland and Denmark; Urhobo and Isoko, Yoruba and Itsekiri similar language different people.
Igbos should learn how to live with this reality.
Also tell me the Igbo word for Yes.
Any research or academic work done in uniport is a scam. If you know you know
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