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Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by onumadu: 4:38pm On Jul 07, 2024
Tjra:
Ooni is 100% wrong on this.

Igbos and Fulanis actually have same ideology, migratory/nomadic culture, hotblooded/easily angered, fair skin complexion, same shape of head, Tit for tat view of life (mosaic law just like jews), persistency, ruggedness, superiority complex, etc. and must definitely share same ancestral links.

The only difference is one embraced Islam and cattle rearing while the other Catholism and trading.

Yorubas have nothing in common with Igbos. We only share ancestral links with the Binis.
There is something the Yoruba man finds menacing about the shape of Igbo man's head! cheesy cheesy cheesy

If a Yoruba man is talking about the Igbo and never mentioned the shape of head, he has not really started to get serious. grin

Well, maybe this poster has some point, because we never really know how Igbos would have been if they were Muslim.

Christianity certainly played a big role in reducing the Igbo natural militancy.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Konquest:
Dsimmer:
Don't tell me Ooni doesn't understand Yoruba even though he speaks it 🤔 It's Ugbo. Yoruba have several places called Ile Ugbo, such as Ugbo Irunmole. Ugbo is known as forest which is considered as an Orisha in Yoruba land. Yoruba tend to conserve their forest as Orisha.

In fact, Yoruba's Ugbo is Obatala who's Oseremagbo 📌because he was the first primordial Orisha given the task to create the universe before his second half Oduduwa came to complete it. The Ugbo people said to be fighting Ife were Yoruba people in Ife, for example the Obalufon and others, and also the Yoruba which include the Ekiti, Okun (including the Oworo), Ondo people (which includes Ilaje), Itsekiri (Jekri), and also the Ijebu and Awori etc. These were the people fighting with Ife but eventually, everyone settled everything as one big family before Oyo empire was formed.

Meanwhile, it was the Bini and Igala who started calling the slaves (the Uzibwo) under them Ibo or Igbo. It's even found in the old Ibo dictionary which states that Ibo or Igbo means slave. In fact, the Onitsha people refused to bear Ibo or Igbo name as seen below.

Igbo means forest in Yoruba. It was even previously known as Ugbo before the modification of it to Igbo but still known as Ugbo.
Succinctly stated.

The man who is currently the Ooni of Ife has been speaking off-hand and mangling history. He has to be cautioned and told by the high-ranking chiefs to take at least one month off to read credible historical research works on the cultural and ancestral SIMILARITIES between the Yorubas and Igalas. The man keeps engaging in annoying "circular reasoning" and claiming that the Yorubas and Ibos are directly related or that the Ibos left Ife which are both FALSE claims! The Obi of Onitsha too was dishing out the same falsehoods in a BBC interview. These traditional rulers have to go back and relearn their histories bacause they come off as being lazy to me. Yes, the Onitsha folks and Asaba folks including other ethnicities in Edo, Delta, Kogi (Igalas who are classified officially as Yoruboid) all refered DEROGATORILY or derisively to the primitive "bush people" or "forest-dwelling tribes" who are NOW collectively known as Ibo (Igbo) today as "Igbon" in Edo, "Onye Ibo/Igbo" in Asaba and Onitsha, "Onigbo" by the Igalas or simply "Igbo!" Onigbo in Igala simply means SLAVES or OUTCASTS and people who practiced extensive CANNIBALISM or eating of human flesh even after 1900 as can be seen in the attached map BELOW!

The British colonialists came in the 1700s as slave merchants who bought Ibo slaves as recorded in European and American history books from the Ijaws, Efiks, Aros, Aboh, Igalas, Itsekiris, Binis, etc, and then in the 1800s as colonists and they also began to use that derogatory word IBO (IGBO) to collectively refer to those tribes who had individual names for their people such as Orlu, Mbaise, Ngwa, Awka (Oka), etc. These people didn't realize the name "Ibo" is derogatory and so, began to use it also for themselves based on what the British colonists and administrators had institutionalized or proposed. The concept of an Ibo tribe or ethnicity and the Central Ibo language is ENTIRELY a British colonial creation! This is why in published book interviews granted to the White folks and missionaries in the 1800s, the Asaba and Onitsha people did NOT call themselves by the DEROGATORY word Ibo (Igbo) but called the primitive tribes living outside their areas (East of the River Niger) in the bush as Ibos as can be gleaned from the screenshots you attached and ALSO here! With all these historical FACTS, it's important to urgently let this man who will be turning 50 this year to STOP making HIGHLY embarrassing public comments and STOP saying that Ibos of the areas East of River Niger are related to Ife or the Yorubas because they are NOT! He should take a month or two off to get himself acquainted with reading books or have experts from the University in Ife to DISTIL these historical FACTS to him. Period.

Cc: @Sharone21, Tjra, Femi4, MightySparrow, Afrojuju2017

Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by AnyanwuSK(m): 5:11pm On Jul 07, 2024
Say Kolanuts don't grow in Igbo land is ignorant talk.

We have Kola nut called Oji Igbo,

I have seen kolanut trees several times in the East.

Oji Igbo is scarce and more expensive than others because it's more sought for than others in the Igboland, they request it when carrying out some traditional stuff.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by akigbemaru: 5:58pm On Jul 07, 2024
Tjra:
Ooni is 100% wrong on this.

Igbos and Fulanis actually have same ideology, migratory/nomadic culture, hotblooded/easily angered, fair skin complexion, same shape of head, Tit for tat view of life (mosaic law just like jews), persistency, ruggedness, superiority complex, etc. and must definitely share same ancestral links.

The only difference is one embraced Islam and cattle rearing while the other Catholism and trading.

Yorubas have nothing in common with Igbos. We only share ancestral links with the Binis.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by igborilla:
This stupid ooni and always talking rubbish.
They should remove this animal before he finally enters the street.

Ogun kill this ooni. He will die a painful death...
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Abaki5: 6:15pm On Jul 07, 2024
CoronaVirusPro:
You asked a good question.

He gave them the land because it was not fertile and landlocked.
Let's discuss an ideas concerning the current hardship because with this kind of obsession about igbos we cannot make any progress as a country
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Afrojuju2017(m): 6:41pm On Jul 07, 2024
gidgiddy:
If the British had not created Nigeria, most Yorubas and Hausas would not have known who Igbos are

Ask the average Nigerian who the Fon ethnic group are, they won't know

But the Fon ethnic group are the largest tribe in neighbouring Benin Republic

The average Nigerian doesn't know them because they are in a different country next-door
It's just ridiculous what Ooni is saying.
Ile-Igbo and ule-Ugbo mean same thing and is most related to the Ugbo people who are ancestrally from Ife and are now lead by the Oba Obateru Akinruntan.

The Igbo and Yoruba ancestrally divergent even if both are from the Congo subgroups their migration to their present locations is divergent. The only tribes Yoruba are related to are the Tapa, Igbira to the north, to the west the Fon, some sub Hausa groups from north central and we know of the relations between the coastal tribes from Lagos to Delta state.

The issue of kola nut does not correlate because the Ife people which I am one consume kola nut (Obi) in very large volume and it's an important part of traditional gatherings, they were farmers and used it as a stimulant while working the fields under the scorching sun.

Ojaja Ja Idi ote boo'le. Ki baba o pe
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Afrojuju2017(m): 6:50pm On Jul 07, 2024
Tjra:
Ooni is 100% wrong on this.

Igbos and Fulanis actually have same ideology, migratory/nomadic culture, hotblooded/easily angered, fair skin complexion, same shape of head, Tit for tat view of life (mosaic law just like jews), persistency, ruggedness, superiority complex, etc. and must definitely share same ancestral links.

The only difference is one embraced Islam and cattle rearing while the other Catholism and trading.

Yorubas have nothing in common with Igbos. We only share ancestral links with the Binis.
We share links with the Tapa and Igbira and some Igala, the itshekiri, people of Edo central and some along Edo North.

The link between the Edo Bini and the Yoruba is greatly limited to the royal household,however the Bini kingdom had major influence and control of many areas from Eko to Ondo State and along the coast to Itshekiri areas which sheared homogeneity with other lukumi tribes.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Afrojuju2017(m): 6:52pm On Jul 07, 2024
FalseProphet1:
Ancient Africans were nomads, so it's possible that we are all related somehow.

This I have seen.
The Igbo are genetically linked to the Congo subgroups however the migration of the Yoruba has been proven to be much longer before that of the Igbo. They went much far further North and further to the west Africa and returned to where they are settled now.

The Yoruba are far much more genetically diverse than the Igbo.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Afrojuju2017(m): 7:01pm On Jul 07, 2024
CoronaVirusPro:
The first migrants of Igbo’s into znigeria have been known to be Jewish. There are artifacts and locations in the South East that buttresses that.

It was the son of Oduduwa ruling Benin that gave the Igbo migrants the land called South-East todays

Igbo’s are one of the lost tribes of Israel with a unique language, and they are not Nigerians.

They migrated into West Africa through the coastlines of Gabon, Equatorial Guinea and Cameroon.

They were working for the Ikwerre’s in the Southern part of Nigeria and adopted their language.
Laughing hard. If the Igbo are some of the lost tribes of Isreal why then don't they share genetic similarities with the Ethiopian tribes, the Fulani and touregs, Somali and Eritrean tribes and tribes along northern Kenya that are proven to be semitic tribes from thr lower Nile ?
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Nobody: 7:09pm On Jul 07, 2024
Afrojuju2017:
Laughing hard. If the Igbo are some of the lost tribes of Isreal why then don't they share genetic similarities with the Ethiopian tribes, the Fulani and touregs, Somali and Eritrean tribes and tribes along northern Kenya that are proven to be semitic tribes from thr lower Nile ?
It’s being covered up by strong political powers. The state of Israel would not admit, but with time, the whole world will know.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by stanluiz(m): 8:00pm On Jul 07, 2024
dododawa1:
WE and IGBO


Never




people that kick their father from sleep.
Neither did we mine the skulls of out father and exhume their dead decayed bodies from the grave just for ritual purposes.

Of course, We and afonjas can't be one!!
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by PUNANI01: 8:02pm On Jul 07, 2024
Tufia!
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by stanluiz(m): 8:05pm On Jul 07, 2024
Tjra:
Ooni is 100% wrong on this.

Igbos and Fulanis actually have same ideology, migratory/nomadic culture, hotblooded/easily angered, fair skin complexion, same shape of head, Tit for tat view of life (mosaic law just like jews), persistency, ruggedness, superiority complex, etc. and must definitely share same ancestral links.

The only difference is one embraced Islam and cattle rearing while the other Catholism and trading.

Yorubas have nothing in common with Igbos. We only share ancestral links with the Binis.
Lies!!

Igbo and fulani don't have anything to do in common. The difference between the two is like Light and darkness.

It is yoruba and fulani that shared the same similarities and values.

Tinubu even said that Yoruba and fulani are one.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Kdon2: 8:34pm On Jul 07, 2024
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Lezzlie(m): 9:12pm On Jul 07, 2024
CoronaVirusPro:
Igbos are descendants of Jews.

Even though Netanyahu tries to deny, it can not be wiped off history.

Yoruba’s gave Igbo the South-East which they presently claim as home now.

A day will come when they will go reclaim their land in Israel, and so shall a day come when their tenancy will expire and Yoruba’s will reclaim the South-East.
When cognitive impairment escapes orthodox diagnosis, the internet has a way of showing the symptoms
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by POKUASI2: 9:26pm On Jul 07, 2024
AnyanwuSK:
Say Kolanuts don't grow in Igbo land is ignorant talk.

We have Kola nut called Oji Igbo,

I have seen kolanut trees several times in the East.

Oji Igbo is scarce and more expensive than others because it's more sought for than others in the Igboland, they request it when carrying out some traditional stuff.
That is the height of stupidity abd misinformation.
I have personally seen and picked kolanut that fell fon a kolanut tree.
I personally know about 10 kolanut tree in my village. So for anybody to say kolanut can not grow in igboland is total misinformation.
One sad thing about this is, mumu people go believe him and start running with this rubbish talk
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Lovelyn451(f): 2:37am On Jul 08, 2024
So me and this dirty iya hajara have ancestral links....God forbid! Oba goan wash your mouth
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by pebbycougar(m): 2:40am On Jul 08, 2024
'@lovelyn
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by mutvy: 5:37am On Jul 08, 2024
Very soon,Ogunwusi will tell us that Fulani and Kanuri have ancestral link with Yoruba.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Afrojuju2017(m): 7:31am On Jul 08, 2024
franchasofficia:
What I know is that Yorubas came from Saudi Arabia while Igbos migrated from Israel. Igbos are one of the lost tribes of the Jews. It's not as if Israel is peaceful and leading the world like US that we are claiming to come from there but it is what it is, your ancestry remains your ancestry whether good or bad. We are not like Ikwerre people who are.denying their Igbo bloodline just because Igbos lost civil war and just because of crude oil politics and as Ikwerre people claim they came from Bini kingdom, Oba of Bini disputed the lie and said Ikwerre people are Igbo people.



Kola nut also grow in Igbo land. We had one Kola nut tree in my family compound while growing up. So the kola nut story is not entirely true. But I love Ooni and I respect him so much, so I cannot say Ooni is lying, he must know one or two things we none Royals might not know but he needs to research deeper beyond this kola nut story to convince more people about his story.


Maybe Yorubas and Igbos might have shared same family background back in MiddleEast where both tribes migrated from because the Yoruba and Igbo dialect share some similarities in word meanings. And all over Yoruba land, they always have an Ile Igbo this and that, there must something about that.


I know Ooni is not happy with the disunity between Igbos and Yorubas of recent and maybe trying to use this history to calm situation down, and I commend him for that but of the truth, the unity between Yorubas and Igbos today is in the hands of Yorubas to make it work because Igbos have done more than enough for Yorubas to foster unity but Yorubas always repay Igbos with disdain.


Igbos voted MKO Abiola (in 1993, Southeast had just 4 states, MKO won Anambra and lost 3 other SE states to Tofa. But the 3 SE states he lost to Tofa, he got over 40% of total votes cast which means Tofa won him there with very narrow margin despite the fact that Tofa had an Igbo running mate Sylvester Ugo. )

Igbos spearheaded the fight for the release of Obasanjo from jail (go and read about Chris Anyanwu and co)

Igbos voted Obasanjo twice leaving eminent Igbos like Ojukwu and co.

Ogbonnaya Onu collapsed his political structure for Olu Falae to become flagbearer and we then had two Yorubas contesting for President in 1999 yet Yorubas refuse to repay all these.

They forgot all these in 2023 even as their honest elites tried to correct them and remind them of all these.


Igbos without prejudice go to Southwest in numbers to invest and live happily, but Yorubas out of unbridled hatred for Igbos rarely travel to Southeast to invest and live, when they live there due to.work, they refuse to invest or buy lands giving false excuses that Igbos dont sell their land, says who? I have lands in Owerri and Enugu, any Yoruba man interested should chat me for price not staying in Yoruba land and be lying against Igbos whereas we are also looking for people to buy lands in Southeast towns and cities and join us in developing Southeast like we are doing for other regions.


Many Igbos that have investments and properties in Lagos and other places dont live in Nigerja and didn't make their money in Nigeria but for our love for true unity in Nigeria we invest everywhere but still una de hate Igbos unjustly out of fear.


Today a Yoruba man Tinubu is President, he have another opportunity to unite Igbos and Yorubas, but will he do it? Let's watch and see
All nonsense I actually have the voting data for the SE states for A viola it's widely available and I don't remember this 40% you speak of. It was circa 30% in most places. Some of the loudest voices used by the military to front the agitation against Abiola were Igbo Nzeribe et al, and the wicked man that was chief electoral officer was also Igbo Nwosu. When the 1979 election swung around barely a decade after the civil war who did the northern hegemony use as a deputy in their ploy to cheat the leading figure of Yoruba extraction out of the possibility of presidency Ekwueme.

Prior to and immediately after the APC primaries the likes of Ngige, Orji Kalu Ogbonaya Oni etc went on public TV and stated they'd rather vote for a northerner than vote for a SW candidate from their own party who has legitimately secured the party ticket.

So this nonsensical one south music is a lie a stupid take that no SW should ever be deceived into accepting. For the SW eternal vigilance is the word because we are surrounded by traitors and vagabonds on all sides.

The southern governors meet at least 4 times between 2018 and 2022 in Delta, Lagos Ibadan, Edo and one other SE state and their collective resolve after those meetings for southern presidency 2023. I can recall saying on here that the SW governors were silly to meet with treacherous cons especially the APC governors lead by Akeredolu with all his enthusiasm (he was a SE unity begar for obvious reasons) only for the PDP governors to go support Atiku including this same man Peter Obi who at Atiku presidential declaration called Atiku his mentor and boss only to decamp and ride the whirlwind of lies that is the "obedient movement". All the SE elite save for Umahi, Uzodima and Soludo supported Atiku the rest fell back to their ethnic bias amd supported Obi. If Obi didn't come up they'll have supported Atiku


So abeg hold this your unity nonsense, I'm rather certain the Yoruboid confederacy would leave Nigeria very soon for you all, and we'll be wise to not align with the SE we share absolutely nothing culturally, morally ethically or otherwise with you beyond humanity itself.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by franchasofficia: 7:50am On Jul 08, 2024
Afrojuju2017:
All nonsense I actually have the voting data for the SE states for A viola it's widely available and I don't remember this 40% you speak of. It was circa 30% in most places. Some of the loudest voices used by the military to front the agitation against Abiola were Igbo Nzeribe et al, and the wicked man that was chief electoral officer was also Igbo Nwosu. When the 1979 election swung around barely a decade after the civil war who did the northern hegemony use as a deputy in their ploy to cheat the leading figure of Yoruba extraction out of the possibility of presidency Ekwueme.

Prior to and immediately after the APC primaries the likes of Ngige, Orji Kalu Ogbonaya Oni etc went on public TV and stated they'd rather vote for a northerner than vote for a SW candidate from their own party who has legitimately secured the party ticket.

So this nonsensical one south music is a lie a stupid take that no SW should ever be deceived into accepting. For the SW eternal vigilance is the word because we are surrounded by traitors and vagabonds on all sides.

The southern governors meet at least 4 times between 2018 and 2022 in Delta, Lagos Ibadan, Edo and one other SE state and their collective resolve after those meetings for southern presidency 2023. I can recall saying on here that the SW governors were silly to meet with treacherous cons especially the APC governors lead by Akeredolu with all his enthusiasm (he was a SE unity begar for obvious reasons) only for the PDP governors to go support Atiku including this same man Peter Obi who at Atiku presidential declaration called Atiku his mentor and boss only to decamp and ride the whirlwind of lies that is the "obedient movement". All the SE elite save for Umahi, Uzodima and Soludo supported Atiku the rest fell back to their ethnic bias amd supported Obi. If Obi didn't come up they'll have supported Atiku


So abeg hold this your unity nonsense, I'm rather certain the Yoruboid confederacy would leave Nigeria very soon for you all, and we'll be wise to not align with the SE we share absolutely nothing culturally, morally ethically or otherwise with you beyond humanity itself.
Always telling lies to paint Igbos black.


You guys have dark heart.


Please stop fabricating lies and see the result of 1993 election attached and get sense.


You guys tell so much lies against Igbos out of unbridled hatred.

You think if Southeast had given MKO Abiola less than 30% votes he would have won the election? Even Igbos in Lagos, Kano, Kaduna, Plateau voted MKO but you lying demons prefer lies against Igbos.



Igbos voted for Obasanjo they said Obasanjo is no longer Yoruba but Igbo man, very pathetic people.

Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Afrojuju2017(m): 8:04am On Jul 08, 2024
franchasofficia:
Always telling lies to paint Igbos black.


You guys have dark heart.


Please stop fabricating lies and see the result of 1993 election attached and get sense.


You guys tell so much lies against Igbos out of unbridled hatred.

You think if Southeast had given MKO Abiola less than 30% votes he would have won the election? Even Igbos in Lagos, Kano, Kaduna, Plateau voted MKO but you lying demons prefer lies against Igbos.



Igbos voted for Obasanjo they said Obasanjo is no longer Yoruba but Igbo man, very pathetic people.
Yeye dey smell

Why don't you address the other factual issues I've brought up

Look at the poor votes !
Other Southern states were declaring 60% , 70% . If the man had been dependent on southern voted thanks to the Igbo he would have lost but then Nwosu and Nzeribe were deployed. What they couldn't do at the ballote they did by other means, and oputa panel did shed light on the principal advocates of the Abacha regime Orji Kalu, Peter Obi Ezego shall I continue listing them. How many Igbo were involved with the Nadeco struggle pitifully few because they all enjoyed the army largesse.

Was MKO a delta man or Edo man. The likes of Jigawa and Borno in the north even did better than the stupid 41% from Abia.

History has shown that the igbo man has always readied himself and put himself forward as a tool to be used by the vicious in the upending of any potential Yoruba success it happened in 1957-66 happened in 1979-1983 happened again in 1993 happend in 1999 it's happened in 2023 and we'll put an end to this joint venture before such can ever be allowed to re-occur.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Joynodey: 8:06am On Jul 08, 2024
Very useless and foolish people, trying everything to connect with the Igbos. We don't have any connections with the back stabbers. Yorubas are evil!
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by franchasofficia: 8:15am On Jul 08, 2024
Afrojuju2017:
Yeye dey smell

Why don't you address the other factual issues I've brought up

Look at the poor votes !
Other Southern states were declaring 60% , 70% . If the man had been dependent on southern voted thanks to the Igbo he would have lost but then Nwosu and Nzeribe were deployed. What they couldn't do at the ballote they did by other means, and oputa panel did shed light on the principal advocates of the Abacha regime Orji Kalu, Peter Obi Ezego shall I continue listing them. How many Igbo were involved with the Nadeco struggle pitifully few because they all enjoyed the army largesse.

Was MKO a delta man or Edo man. The likes of Jigawa and Borno in the north even did better than the stupid 41% from Abia.

History has shown that the igbo man has always readied himself and put himself forward as a tool to be used by the vicious in the upending of any potential Yoruba success it happened in 1957-66 happened in 1979-1983 happened again in 1993 happend in 1999 it's happened in 2023 and we'll put an end to this joint venture before such can ever be allowed to re-occur.
Stop taking propaganda from your cunning Yoruba elites serious.


There is an adage in Igbo culture that have existed before colonial masters arrived Nigeria which British colonial masters also collaborated to be true about Igbos.


Igbos are largely democratic with individualistic mindset towards leadership.


The adage says: "Igbo enweghi eze" which means Igbos don't have king. What it means is that Igbos do not follow the desire of one man who thinks he is a king.


This has been evident in Nigerian politics for decades whereby Igbos hardly vote en masse an Igbo Presidential candidate.

Ojukwu contested and got no Igbo support.

Rochas did same

Okadigbo did with Buhari same fate


Even Nnamdi Azikiwe never had majority of Igbo people's followership despite his pedigree in Nigerian politics compared to Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello and co.


So whatever any corrupt Igbo politician decides to do for his own selfish interest is within him and his family, does not concern generality of Igbos.


The only time in history Igbos massively supported and voted an Igbo Presidential candidate was 2023 for Peter Obi and the only Igbo leaders that can command majority support of ordinary Igbos are:

Peter Obi
Nnamdi Kanu (mostly youths)
Chief Emeka Anyaoku
Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala maybe



So whatever those people you mentioned did with Abacha and co is solely on their own not with Igbo people's consent or support.


So learn to stop telling lies against Igbos and stop the devilish lie that Igbos did not vote MKO Abiola whereas Igbos massively voted MKO Abiola as you can see and part of the reason he won the election
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Konquest:
Rekeb:
Alaafin Corrects Ooni On Historical Claims Linking Yoruba & Igbo

AJE: AN EARLY YORUBA DEITY WITH NO SECOND FIDDLE.
BY ALAAFIN OF OYO.
SCRIPT OF THE LETTER

PUBLISHED IN THE NIGERIAN TRIBUNE ON THURSDAY, 2 MAY, 2019 PAGE 9

In recent time, I have been inundated with calls and even visits to my Palace on a recent Video Tape showing His Imperial Majesty, Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi, the Ooni of Ife during the Aje Festival in Ile-Ife, Osun State. With all sense of modesty but candour, I cannot recall exactly the number of the video tapes that have been sent to me by well-meaning Yoruba elders and patriots.

(2) In the same vein, the traditional rulers have not been left out of this concern and legitimate worries. All across Yoruba speaking areas of Nigeria up to Kwara and Kogi states, the situation to say the least, has been breathless. Even the Yoruba in the Diaspora; Republics of Benin and Togo, Brazil, Cuba, Chile, Ecuador, United Kingdom, United States of America, Canada etc have also expressed indignation about the current issue.


(3) Initially, my reaction was to stand by my age long resolve, as the king and Head of Yorubaland, not to interfere in the running of the affairs of other Paramount rulers in Yorubaland of which the Ooni of Ife is one. But after listening thoroughly with meticulous assessment and analysis of the tape, I did not hesitate to come to the conclusion that the time for me to interfere was ripe and absolutely expedient less the cherished historical and cultural heritage of the Yoruba is wantonly dragged in the mud. My interference, therefore, is daintily anchored on the sanctity of Yoruba history, origin and custom which I am convinced the said video tape by Oba Enitan Ogunwusi did not observe.

(4) Yet, even in my response, one should be cautious enough against any inter ethnic hostility and malice within Nigerian context, especially between Yoruba and Igbo. But this should not be turned into historical fallacies. I doubt if any Igbo man familiar with the history of his origin will be happy with the fallacious claim that they originated from Obatala.

(5) Also I do not think the Igbo with a record of highly respected origin will feel comfortable after tracing their origin to ancient Israel with lineage to Eri, the fifth son of Gad who was the seventh son of Jacob, who was the youngest son of Isaac, son of Abraham. Eri, the son of Gad was said to have entered the present Egypt, journeying down Africa, crossing the Nile to Ethiopia (present day Sudan) and finally into the present day Enugwu Aguleri (for more details about this see: THE BOOK NIGERIA 2.O. CARAPACE PUBLISHERS NIGERIA LIMITED. Pg 46 ORIGIN OF THE IGBO: OBU GAD (HOUSE OF GAD) ANAMBRA STATE. Khartoum Street, Wuse, Zone 5, Abuja Federal Capital Territory, Nigeria or www.dayoadedayo.com). Certainly, the Igbo people who are proud of their origin will not feel comfortable with any pseudo history that will make them superior to Israel.

(6) I am not aware of any business relationship between the Yoruba and the Igbo until the 19th century, leading to the amalgamation of the Southern Protectorate and Northern Protectorate that resulted into Nigeria in 1914. In other words, we are related as fellows Nigerians who have been enjoying mutual relationship for each other. Culturally, linguistically, traditionally and historically, we are basically different. We have always striven to promote harmonious understanding in our diversities.

(7) AJE Coming back to the origin of Aje – Commerce, the cowry (Owoeyo) had been the Yoruba medium of exchange long before the Europeans came. Hence the decoration of Sekere drum with cowries in appreciation and honour of Aje deity it is to say the least, instructively abominable for anybody, no matter how highly placed to put any tribe above the Yoruba race as far as legitimate trading business is concerned. This is because Aje remains one of the early deities of the Yoruba whose imagery creation is the popular Sekere music played everywhere in Yorubaland.

(8.) Alaafin Onisile 1738 – 1750: Alaafin Onisile was remarkable for his indomitable courage and lion-hearted spirit. He was moreover very artistic, and was said to have made seven silver doors to the entrances of his sleeping apartment. During his reign, the Sekere (Calabash) drum was ornamented, not only with cowries, but also with costly beads e.g. Iyun (Corals), Okun (Stone beads, Benin), Erinla (stripped yellow pipe beads) and Segi (blue pipe beads), strung with silk thread dyed red; all of native manufacture. He was a great warrior and for his exploits was nicknamed “Gbagida! Wowo I’ewon ab’esin fo odi (Gbagida, an expression of admiration), a man with clanging chains (for prisoners) whose horse can lead over a town wall). The History of the Yorubas. Pg.176 by Rev, Samuel Johnson.

(9) Besides, some families in Yorubaland are classified adherents of Aje deity. Some of these families named their children in honour of their chosen deity, i.e. Aje. Such names include: Ajebandele, Ajewumi, Ajifowobaje etc not to talk of those who dedicate time to worship the deity.

(10) It is also a truism that some cognomen, lineage panegyric, such cognomen include: Aje ti so eru d’omo. Yet another is special request and plea to Aje such as “Aje dakun ma na mi ni pasan re ko se nani” and many others like that.

[b](11) Coming back to modern trade, I make bold to say that it was the imitative of Alaafin who opened the Yoruba to Trans-Sahara trade with West African Countries as early as the fifteenth century. This was especially between the Yoruba and the Hausa-Fulani across West Africa. Trade routes led from Timbuktu in Mali, Goa, Tuareg and Tripoli. Still as far as (Oceanic) Coastal trade was concerned, the Alaafin used the Port of Allada in Wema to control European shippers. “By the middle of the 18th century, when Oyo had grown into an empire in the full bloom of life, Oyo was bounded to the north by the Niger, to the West by Modern Togoland, to the east by its sister Kingdom of Benin and to the South by the Gulf of Guinea, and Porto Novo and Badagry were its main coastal outlets. Dahomey, it may be recalled, became a tributary state of Oyo in 1730 see: Topics in West African History, pg. 90 Paragraph 22 by Adu Boahen, Ph.D. Associate Professor of History, University of Ghana. Published by Longman Group Limited, London 1966.[/b]

(12) One other imperative of Yoruba in the pursuit of commerce is that any such pursuit must be legitimate with norms of the society. It is on this note that Yoruba sweat and labour as necessary partners; Yoruba do not encourage cheating and unlaboured wealth. Yoruba work very hard to be wealthy.

“Ise ni Oogun ise
Eni ti ise nse
Ko ma bo orisa
Oro kokan torisa
Ibaa bo orisa
Ibaa bo obatala
O di ojo ti o ba sise ko to jeun”

“Work is the medicine for poverty
Who ever is poor
Let him not worship divinities
Nothing concerns the divinities
He may worship the divinities
He may worship Obatala
It is not until he does a profitable job that he would eat”

[b](13) The above quotations underscore the fact that the Yoruba are very industrious from the beginning with strong emphasis on legitimacy. We have such wealthy and successful businessmen in Lagos who invested heavily on the education of their children. Few examples would suffice. For instance, in 1884, Obadia Johnson, a Yoruba qualified as a Doctor of Medicine. John Randle, son of Thomas Randle an Oyo man who settled at Aroloya in Lagos qualified as a Doctor in 1888, followed by Orisadipo Obasa in 1891. Sapara Williams became the first Lawyer in Nigeria in 1888. In 1893, Herbert Macaulay, a Yoruba man, became an Engineer and A. Agbebi followed in 1911.

(14) Earlier on a Primary School had been established in 1842 in Lagos by the Missionaries. The CMS Grammar School was established in Lagos in 1859 by T.B Macaulay who is the father of Herbert Macaulay. The Methodist Boys’ High School followed in 1876 and in 1879 Methodist Girls’ High School, 1881 St Gregory’s College, Lagos and in 1885 the Baptist Academy (see J.F. Ade Ajayi “The Development of Secondary Grammar School Education in Nigeria, pg 523.[/b]

(15) It also on account of such entrepreneurship backup with distinguished scholarship that the Yoruba established the first Television Station in Black Africa, the first five-star Hotel – Premier Hotel, Ibadan, first Stadium, first dualised Road – Mokola – to State Secretariat, Agodi, Ibadan, first Food Canning Industry, first Skyscrapper – Cocoa House, Ibadan, first farm settlement, First Free Primary Education, free Medical services for school children; all in the former Western Region of Nigeria under the premiership of Chief Obafemi Awolowo. The first African Bishop was Bishop Ajayi Crowther, who spoke twelve languages: English, Yoruba, Ibo, Hausa, Fulfulde (Fulani) Nupe, Kanuri etc, Bishop Ajayi Crowther discovered the first ever Igbo Alphabet ‘ISIOMA’ just as the first Newspaper to be published in Nigeria. These are just a few of the “firsts”.

(16) In summary, let it be stated that Nigeria, despite the multiplicity of its ethnicity has been together in harmony in spite of their heterogeneity. All of us leaders should guide against any utterance that can create an atmosphere of suspicion and rancor among the various ethnic compositions.

IKU BABA YEYE
Oba (Dr.) Lamidi Olayiwola Adeyemi III, JP. CFR, LLD, SAP, D.LLTS, DPA
The Alaafin of Oyo and Permanent Chairman Oyo State Council of Obas and Chiefs
Chancellor, University of Maiduguri, Borno State
Chancellor, Crescent University, Abeokuta, Ogun State
Pro-Chancellor, Keisie International University South Korea Nigeria, Ghana and Sierra Leone.
Very succinctly stated... Straight from the Oyo Kingdom archives.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Afrojuju2017(m): 10:21am On Jul 08, 2024
franchasofficia:
Stop taking propaganda from your cunning Yoruba elites serious.


There is an adage in Igbo culture that have existed before colonial masters arrived Nigeria which British colonial masters also collaborated to be true about Igbos.


Igbos are largely democratic with individualistic mindset towards leadership.


The adage says: "Igbo enweghi eze" which means Igbos don't have king. What it means is that Igbos do not follow the desire of one man who thinks he is a king.


This has been evident in Nigerian politics for decades whereby Igbos hardly vote en masse an Igbo Presidential candidate.

Ojukwu contested and got no Igbo support.

Rochas did same

Okadigbo did with Buhari same fate


Even Nnamdi Azikiwe never had majority of Igbo people's followership despite his pedigree in Nigerian politics compared to Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello and co.


So whatever any corrupt Igbo politician decides to do for his own selfish interest is within him and his family, does not concern generality of Igbos.


The only time in history Igbos massively supported and voted an Igbo Presidential candidate was 2023 for Peter Obi and the only Igbo leaders that can command majority support of ordinary Igbos are:

Peter Obi
Nnamdi Kanu (mostly youths)
Chief Emeka Anyaoku
Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala maybe



So whatever those people you mentioned did with Abacha and co is solely on their own not with Igbo people's consent or support.


So learn to stop telling lies against Igbos and stop the devilish lie that Igbos did not vote MKO Abiola whereas Igbos massively voted MKO Abiola as you can see and part of the reason he won the election
Uther nonsense, Igbo are democratic, Ibo don't have king why then do you have all these con men called eze this a dvthst littering every community.
A place as small as Ikeja has more than 10 eze who claim they are king of the Igbo in that domain such effrontery.

Awolowo in all his effort didn't even have political control of all of SW, in Ibadan the likes of Penkele opposed him politically, in Lagos he had to contend with disciples of McCauley, Oshodis etc in Bendel he had opposition, his legacy is vested in what he did for the Yoruba interest in his own lifetime he had virulent opposition who did not agree with the AG.


The oldest known democratic institutions was discovered to be in To state where there was prime minister and a parliamentary system and a judicial system separated from the authority of a paramount ruler. In Ife you have the 7 chiefs who oversaw the divisions under the authority of the Ooni, a judicial system that settled dispute of land and inheritance and tax.

The Igbo had no organisation ethos the absence which doesn't confer democratic values. The fact the Igbo pre the British ran around like little villages naked and partaking in sadistic acts which linger till today.

Mary slessor didn't recue twin births in the Yoruboid tribes, it's the Igbo tribes who were murdering twin babies because of their ignorance, in oyo and Ife we worshiped twins as demi gods, we crafted sculptures to depict them as gods, the ifa oracle has versed on the divinity of twins, people made offerings to twins to secure the grace of the maker.

All this ranting is needless if the Ooni didn't reduce the great Yoruba people to the levels of suggesting we have any relationship with the Igbo to the SE.
Any connections didn't go further than the Bini conquered an controlled large areas and we know the yoruboid speaking Igala also dominated them and have rulers over some villages till this day.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by franchasofficia: 10:41am On Jul 08, 2024
Afrojuju2017:
Uther nonsense, Igbo are democratic, Ibo don't have king why then do you have all these con men called eze this a dvthst littering every community.
A place as small as Ikeja has more than 10 eze who claim they are king of the Igbo in that domain such effrontery.

Awolowo in all his effort didn't even have political control of all of SW, in Ibadan the likes of Penkele opposed him politically, in Lagos he had to contend with disciples of McCauley, Oshodis etc in Bendel he had opposition, his legacy is vested in what he did for the Yoruba interest in his own lifetime he had virulent opposition who did not agree with the AG.


The oldest known democratic institutions was discovered to be in To state where there was prime minister and a parliamentary system and a judicial system separated from the authority of a paramount ruler. In Ife you have the 7 chiefs who oversaw the divisions under the authority of the Ooni, a judicial system that settled dispute of land and inheritance and tax.

The Igbo had no organisation ethos the absence which doesn't confer democratic values. The fact the Igbo pre the British ran around like little villages naked and partaking in sadistic acts which linger till today.

Mary slessor didn't recue twin births in the Yoruboid tribes, it's the Igbo tribes who were murdering twin babies because of their ignorance, in oyo and Ife we worshiped twins as demi gods, we crafted sculptures to depict them as gods, the ifa oracle has versed on the divinity of twins, people made offerings to twins to secure the grace of the maker.

All this ranting is needless if the Ooni didn't reduce the great Yoruba people to the levels of suggesting we have any relationship with the Igbo to the SE.
Any connections didn't go further than the Bini conquered an controlled large areas and we know the yoruboid speaking Igala also dominated them and have rulers over some villages till this day.
You sound so bitter and incoherent, you need to calm yourself down.


Being hatefilled and bitter will never let you go far in life, especially when you are hating someone or people that did you no wrong.


Igbos have done Yorubas no wrong.


Like I earlier stated, Igbos of recent have done a lot to foster unity between Igbos and Yorubas but you Yorubas of our time always repay it with disdain, lies, propaganda and false accusations.


First, you claimed Igbos didn't vote MKO Abiola, and I proved to you that it is a lie from pit of hell.


If Igbos had given MKO Abiola less than 30% of their votes, Abiola would never have won that Presidential election. You can flare up again and say it's a lie, but to confirm my point, go and calculate the total number of votes MKO Abiola used to win Tofa, then calculate Southeast total votes to MKO abiola and reduce it by say 25% and check how many votes MKO Abiola would get. Without Igbos voting massively for MKO Abiola despite having an eminent Igbo man as running mate to Tofa, MKO Abiola would never have won the election.


Igbos again voted Olusegun Obasanjo who even led Nigerian soldiers to invade Southeast during Biafra war, Obasanjo later realized that Igbos are not Yoruba enemies and turned back to embrace Igbos but you heartless Yorubas turned around to say Igbos voted Obasanjo because Obasanjo is an Igbo man from Anambra, some Yorubas even claimed Igbos voted PDP and not Obasanjo hahahaha what a confused analogy.



Now tell me in the history of Nigeria when Yorubas ever voted massively for an Igbo politician even if it's an Igbo man majority of ordinary Igbos hate, tell me? Even in 2023, Peter Obi won only Lagos and it's because of high Igbo population in Lagos with Middlebelt and Niger Delta people support for Obi in 2023 with few reasonable detribalized Yorubas that supported Obi.


Tell me since 1990 what the Yorubas have done to foster peace and unity between Yoruba and Igbo and I have already listed verifiable moves Igbos did to foster peace and unity between Igbos and Yorubas.



You talked about Igbos having Eze Ndi Igbo this and that all over Lagos and everywhere. That again tells you that Igbos do not attribute much respect to those positions, they are just like ceremonial titles with no influence in Igbo land or among Igbos, and reason they easily acquire them like you pointed out.


Ooni of Ife command more respect in Yoruba land than Obi of Onitsha in Igbo land.


This is why Igbos don't have any big national political figure like other tribes; Yorubas, Hausa-Fulanis and co, except Peter Obi that is trying to come up based on his good record and stance against corruption and lavish lifestyles characterized with most Nigerian politicians.


No Igbo man born of a woman can wake up to tell Igbos who to vote on election day and Igbos listen to him without checking who the person they want to vote is individually on their own.


Nnamdi Kanu is waxing strong and gained followership among Igbo youths because he is speaking the minds of most Igbos; Biafra agitation is a sacred ideology for most Igbos home and abroad and it's because of the massacre during the civil war, the Northern pogrom and the decades of marginalization of Ndigbo and Southeast that made Kanu gain followership not because of any other thing


Take away the marginalization of Igbos through inclusive government that benefits all Nigerians irrespective of tribe, and Nnamdi Kanu and co will be forgotten by Igbos.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Konquest:
Afrojuju2017:
It's just ridiculous what Ooni is saying.
Ile-Igbo and ule-Ugbo mean same thing and is most related to the Ugbo people who are ancestrally from Ife and are now lead by the Oba Obateru Akinruntan.

The Igbo and Yoruba ancestrally divergent even if both are from the Congo subgroups their migration to their present locations is divergent. The only tribes Yoruba are related to are the Tapa, Igbira to the north, to the west the Fon, some sub Hausa groups from north central and we know of the relations between the coastal tribes from Lagos to Delta state.

The issue of kola nut does not correlate because the Ife people which I am one consume kola nut (Obi) in very large volume and it's an important part of traditional gatherings, they were farmers and used it as a stimulant while working the fields under the scorching sun.

Ojaja Ja Idi ote boo'le. Ki baba o pe
@Afrojuju2017,

Igalas are also strongly related to the Yorubas (because they have part Yoruba ancestral bloodlines hence they are classified as Yoruboids)... You seem to have forgotten to mention that in your post. I will also quote you on another post I made about the meaning of the name Ibo (Ibo or Igbo or Onigbo is a highly DEROGATORY name used even before British colonialism by other ethnic groups such as the Igalas, Edos, Niger Deltans, etc, to identify the primitive people East of River Niger who were viewed as ONIGBO or IGBO meaning "bush people" OR slaves, outcasts, and lovers of Cannibalism (eating of human flesh for food) of which there's highly documented historical evidence. I have attached one of many evidence right BELOW in the screenshot which you Ife indigenes have to show the man so that he stops engaging in this embarrassing repetition of WRONGLY saying that Yorubas are related ancestrally to Ibos. This is far from the truth. ONLY the Igalas who are Yoruboid had contact 500 years ago with the primitive bush people called "Onigbo or Igbo" of the East of River Niger via Anambra and Enugu areas

You folks who are directly from Ule Ufe (Ile Ife) have to urgently emphasize the importance of accurate rendition of history to the Ooni and he has to STOP granting interviews and go and get himself educated on the FACT that the Yoruba folks including those of Ufe (Ife) had NO direct contact with the Ibos East of River Niger. On the other hand, history experts from the University in Ife and other institutions can also rapidly help him to DISTILL all the historical and archaeological information if he is not so keen on reading large volumes of books. The fact is that if the newspapers have NOT been deliberately misquoting him for the purpose of pure sensationalism, then he has to spare everyone from the way he runs his mouth without doing enough research and he ends up being insulted by people who themselves don't even know their own cultural or ethnic history.

Last but not least, it's a well-known FACT that all the members of the British Royal family go through series of trainings in language, history, culture, travel, military training, the art of diplomacy and international relations, etc, long before they begin to assume important aristocratic positions or even the role of a King or Queen of England. The same should be made available for every incoming Ooni of Ife and other Oba's in Yorubaland from here on out. Every Yoruba Prince in the Yoruba-speaking parts of Nigeria, Benin Republic, Togo, and Ghana must ensure they go through most of these trainings especially on history of their subgroups in Yorubaland, the Oyo Empire, and their relationships with nearby ethnicities other than the Yorubas.

Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by AfonjaScud: 9:09am On Jul 09, 2024
YouAreNobody:
Tell your useless oba to stop the attaché by force. We don't want any connection with a tribe who takes skull-mining as a tradition.
The Ooni is OYO.

Neither do we want affiliation with a tribe that is globally reputed for crimes.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by Afrojuju2017(m): 7:33am On Jul 10, 2024
franchasofficia:
You sound so bitter and incoherent, you need to calm yourself down.


Being hatefilled and bitter will never let you go far in life, especially when you are hating someone or people that did you no wrong.


Igbos have done Yorubas no wrong.


Like I earlier stated, Igbos of recent have done a lot to foster unity between Igbos and Yorubas but you Yorubas of our time always repay it with disdain, lies, propaganda and false accusations.


First, you claimed Igbos didn't vote MKO Abiola, and I proved to you that it is a lie from pit of hell.


If Igbos had given MKO Abiola less than 30% of their votes, Abiola would never have won that Presidential election. You can flare up again and say it's a lie, but to confirm my point, go and calculate the total number of votes MKO Abiola used to win Tofa, then calculate Southeast total votes to MKO abiola and reduce it by say 25% and check how many votes MKO Abiola would get. Without Igbos voting massively for MKO Abiola despite having an eminent Igbo man as running mate to Tofa, MKO Abiola would never have won the election.


Igbos again voted Olusegun Obasanjo who even led Nigerian soldiers to invade Southeast during Biafra war, Obasanjo later realized that Igbos are not Yoruba enemies and turned back to embrace Igbos but you heartless Yorubas turned around to say Igbos voted Obasanjo because Obasanjo is an Igbo man from Anambra, some Yorubas even claimed Igbos voted PDP and not Obasanjo hahahaha what a confused analogy.



Now tell me in the history of Nigeria when Yorubas ever voted massively for an Igbo politician even if it's an Igbo man majority of ordinary Igbos hate, tell me? Even in 2023, Peter Obi won only Lagos and it's because of high Igbo population in Lagos with Middlebelt and Niger Delta people support for Obi in 2023 with few reasonable detribalized Yorubas that supported Obi.


Tell me since 1990 what the Yorubas have done to foster peace and unity between Yoruba and Igbo and I have already listed verifiable moves Igbos did to foster peace and unity between Igbos and Yorubas.



You talked about Igbos having Eze Ndi Igbo this and that all over Lagos and everywhere. That again tells you that Igbos do not attribute much respect to those positions, they are just like ceremonial titles with no influence in Igbo land or among Igbos, and reason they easily acquire them like you pointed out.


Ooni of Ife command more respect in Yoruba land than Obi of Onitsha in Igbo land.


This is why Igbos don't have any big national political figure like other tribes; Yorubas, Hausa-Fulanis and co, except Peter Obi that is trying to come up based on his good record and stance against corruption and lavish lifestyles characterized with most Nigerian politicians.


No Igbo man born of a woman can wake up to tell Igbos who to vote on election day and Igbos listen to him without checking who the person they want to vote is individually on their own.


Nnamdi Kanu is waxing strong and gained followership among Igbo youths because he is speaking the minds of most Igbos; Biafra agitation is a sacred ideology for most Igbos home and abroad and it's because of the massacre during the civil war, the Northern pogrom and the decades of marginalization of Ndigbo and Southeast that made Kanu gain followership not because of any other thing


Take away the marginalization of Igbos through inclusive government that benefits all Nigerians irrespective of tribe, and Nnamdi Kanu and co will be forgotten by Igbos.
Yoruba learnt very quickly that the Igbo man was to be trueter at their own peril.

The first Igbo man to step out nationally in Nigeria was voted for and supported largely by the Yoruba people that man being Nnamdi Azikiwe who almost won control of the western region, the man spoke fluent yoruba and inherited the pioneering political organisation in Nigeria founder by Herbert Macauley which he swiftly igbonised.

I don't hate the Igbo but I'm starting to become indifferent to their incessant wailing, bitterness, arrogance and what I once considered to be characteristic of a fringe number is showing itself as a lot more common than otherwise thought.
Re: Igbos Share Ancestral Links With Yorubas, But Many Don’t Know – Ooni Ogunwusi by MightySparrow: 7:30am On Jul 11, 2024
Konquest:
Succinctly stated.

The man who is currently the Ooni of Ife has been speaking off-hand and mangling history. He has to be cautioned and told by the high-ranking chiefs to take at least one month off to read credible historical research works on the cultural and ancestral SIMILARITIES between the Yorubas and Igalas. The man keeps engaging in annoying "circular reasoning" and claiming that the Yorubas and Ibos are directly related or that the Ibos left Ife which are both FALSE claims! The Obi of Onitsha too was dishing out the same falsehoods in a BBC interview. These traditional rulers have to go back and relearn their histories bacause they come off as being lazy to me. Yes, the Onitsha folks and Asaba folks including other ethnicities in Edo, Delta, Kogi (Igalas who are classified officially as Yoruboid) all refered DEROGATORILY or derisively to the primitive "bush people" or "forest-dwelling tribes" who are NOW collectively known as Ibo (Igbo) today as "Igbon" in Edo, "Onye Ibo/Igbo" in Asaba and Onitsha, "Onigbo" by the Igalas or simply "Igbo!" Onigbo in Igala simply means SLAVES or OUTCASTS and people who practiced extensive CANNIBALISM or eating of human flesh even after 1900 as can be seen in the attached map BELOW!

The British colonialists came in the 1700s as slave merchants who bought Ibo slaves as recorded in European and American history books from the Ijaws, Efiks, Aros, Aboh, Igalas, Itsekiris, Binis, etc, and then in the 1800s as colonists and they also began to use that derogatory word IBO (IGBO) to collectively refer to those tribes who had individual names for their people such as Orlu, Mbaise, Ngwa, Awka (Oka), etc. These people didn't realize the name "Ibo" is derogatory and so, began to use it also for themselves based on what the British colonists and administrators had institutionalized or proposed. The concept of an Ibo tribe or ethnicity and the Central Ibo language is ENTIRELY a British colonial creation! This is why in published book interviews granted to the White folks and missionaries in the 1800s, the Asaba and Onitsha people did NOT call themselves by the DEROGATORY word Ibo (Igbo) but called the primitive tribes living outside their areas (East of the River Niger) in the bush as Ibos as can be gleaned from the screenshots you attached and ALSO here! With all these historical FACTS, it's important to urgently let this man who will be turning 50 this year to STOP making HIGHLY embarrassing public comments and STOP saying that Ibos of the areas East of River Niger are related to Ife or the Yorubas because they are NOT! He should take a month or two off to get himself acquainted with reading books or have experts from the University in Ife to DISTIL these historical FACTS to him. Period.

Cc: @Sharone21, Tjra, Femi4, MightySparrow, Afrojuju2017
The works of experts debunk your claims. I will like you to listen to this clip, just find some of the references, especially those that more than a hundred years and read.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw7eUuui5Pk?si=sJ4p8LNmcOCbNBQ9

Besides, I have wondered when a babalawo told me that the Ifá Oracle and his own Sand for divination were the same. The Sand (I don't know the name) came from Arabia. I now found out that the same is practiced among igala, Igbo, Benin, Ebira.... All those Oòni mentioned. If these was not brought from the same origin, it must have been learned from the original owner. Who is this owner? Among all these playmates, here are similarities in language before the advent of Islam and Christianity that corrupt what we have now.
From where these languages intersect?

More scientific reasoning than myths should be used in finding our history. You talk about Obi of Onitsha, I believe as the custodian of the culture and history of his people, certain things are known to him and are believed amongst his people. Wether you take it or not, this is their palace truth.

All of us, lower of the Niger, are of common origin. Dishonesty and superiority complex is all you see on blogs. They don't serve any scholarly usefulness.
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