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Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by SmartPolician: 7:26am On Jul 11, 2024
Tellmeastory:
Very foolish, stupid, and ignorant thread.

It was your 'DIVISION' that allowed the Europeans to enslave and colonise you in the first place.

Now you want to revert to the same old ethnic isolation and sovereignty.

One guy said the ''3 tribes'' will do better if operating independently each on their own.

What about the other 300+ ''tribes'', or your mumu heads think only Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba exist in Nigeria?

When each ''tribe'' goes its own way, we will have 300 FUC.KING COUNTRIES where previously we had ONE.

An absolute recipe for CHAOS.

And if you say those 300 ethnic groups should join up with one or the other of the ''big 3'', we will simply have 3 new NIGERIAS, with one majority group lording it over the others.

Meaning Back to Square One.

SO QUIT WASTING YOUR TIME BY THINKING YOU CAN RUN AWAY FROM YOUR PROBLEMS BY ''DIVIDING NIGERIA''.

It will not happen. You MUST learn to live with one another in a large, multi-ethnic country.

The Mali Empire was around 6 times the size of Nigeria, and was multi-ethnic and multilingual.

And was very prosperous and successful for many centuries.

So multi-ethnic societies are not alien to Africa.

So forget about ''dividing Nigeria'', and go and hustle and make money like your mates and stop disturbing people.

The idea itself is so stupid at this point.

The country has invested billions of dollars in building Abuja, for instance.

With money/resources that came from other parts of the country.

So if Nigeria 'divides', who takes Abuja?

Your father?

Are you prepared to be DEPORTED from Abuja, Lagos, Kaduna, Kano, Jos etc?

Because if Nigeria 'divides', you will be stuck to YOUR neck of the woods.

You will not be allowed to settle in your millions outside your homeland, as is the case presently.

Are you prepared to become a FOREIGNER in Lagos?

A FOREIGNER in Abuja?

That any policeman can slap and detain, and demand your residency papers or visa?

Stupid, thoughtless idiots.

Sometimes I wonder what the fuc.k I'm doing on this forum.
Common sense is far from you, yet you have the guts to call people unprintable names while displaying your ignorance.

Do you know the number of Yorubas who live in the UK? Or do you know the number of Igbos living in Cameroun? Have they all been asked to return to their country?

Read and learn. If Nigeria splits, new governments will ask foreign nationals to obtain documents that show they are visitors. They will eventually learn to behave in their new country or be deported to their country of origin. Any government that deports a large number of people who have economic value pays a heavy price for it.

By the way, this moniker doesn't subscribe to balkanization. I am all for restructuring and resource control by states.
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by LOVEALAIGBO:
DMerciful:
Restructuring is like kicking the can down the road. Lets bite the bullet once and for all.

Separate to 5 countries. Arewa Republic,Biafra Republic, Middle Belt Republic, Odua Republic,
Lower Niger Republic. We can have a commonwealth of natiins for cooperation but 100% different countries
This is the key!

Component parts of Nigeria would be asked to either congregate with likeminded/contiguous ethnicities or declare they’re standing alone! This would give some idea as to the number of countries that will come out of the process. Then a UN conducted referendum will be conducted, and if the vote is overwhelming for secession, the component part or group concerned will be allowed to leave!

*Abuja and Lagos will go to the new country they find themselves in…..ie, Arewa/Middle-Belt or Oduduwa respectively! I think you’ll find NO ethnic group in the southern part of Nigeria will quarrel with this! Though the initial owners of the land can also vote to either be part of the new bigger country concerned or stand alone on their own!

*Issues of liabilities like loans and asset would be settled partly based on where the projects or the assets are located. Shared ownership of any of these projects or assets can also be an option.

*Hydrocarbons would be jointly owned initially by all seceding parts, and the share of those where the hydrocarbons are not in their territory would be gradually reduced by 10% yearly, then a decade after full ownership will revert back to the part where they’re located in!

*Component units or ethnicities in the entire south can equally elect to form a confederal country of their own….and include likeminded ones from the north so willing to join!

The key thing to note here is that any component parts willing to federate or confederate would be joining as equal members no matter their size or resources, and they would be doing so without being forced with a gun held to their heads!
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by LOVEALAIGBO: 11:10am On Jul 11, 2024
SmartPolician:
Common sense is far from you, yet you have the guts to call people unprintable names while displaying your ignorance.

Do you know the number of Yorubas who live in the UK? Or do you know the number of Igbos living in Cameroun? Have they all been asked to return to their country?

Read and learn. If Nigeria splits, new governments will ask foreign nationals to obtain documents that show they are visitors. They will eventually learn to behave in their new country or be deported to their country of origin. Any government that deports a large number of people who have economic value pays a heavy price for it.

By the way, this moniker doesn't subscribe to balkanization. I am all for restructuring and resource control by states.
You make good points! I don’t think we’d be here discussing this issue today had the part in bold been done or been likely to be done! The hegemonic powers that have been in control since the late 60s and held Nigeria to ransom ever since are the major problem preventing Nigeria from unifying and doing the right thing….right thing being the bolded part of your post! THEY are the reason why secessionist agitations exist, and you’d notice THEY are the ones fighting these secessionist movements the most!
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by Beremx(f): 11:22am On Jul 11, 2024
Tinubu should divide the country. He should damn the consequences and do it. Nigerians will forever be grateful to him.
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by StarRiderr: 12:04pm On Jul 11, 2024
Total desintegration is the only favorable option for this contraption called Nigeria. ((Restructuring)) Most of us in Nigeria understand that word differently the way Northerners understand defers with the understanding of the Southerners so you see restructuring will be bluffing
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by Gerhards: 12:07pm On Jul 11, 2024
You won't see those worthless unity beggars here, spit
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by ednut1(m): 12:53pm On Jul 11, 2024
So only wazobia mattershuh We have over 200 ethnic groups in Nigeria. So we should have like 50 countries?
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by LOVEALAIGBO: 1:08pm On Jul 11, 2024
ednut1:
So only wazobia mattershuh We have over 200 ethnic groups in Nigeria. So we should have like 50 countries?
I reckon if every component unit or ethnicity is free to choose, at the end of the process no more than 6 countries will emerge from Nigeria! Nigeria may EVEN survive the process sef! Key thing is that no one is harangued or bullied into being part of a country they have reservations about….like we have with Nigeria today, and they all have the freedom to use their own resources to develop at their own pace!
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by ednut1(m): 1:58pm On Jul 11, 2024
LOVEALAIGBO:
I reckon if every component unit or ethnicity is free to choose, at the end of the process no more than 6 countries will emerge from Nigeria! Nigeria may EVEN survive the process sef! Key thing is that no one is harangued or bullied into being part of a country they have reservations about….like we have with Nigeria today, and they all have the freedom to use their own resources to develop at their own pace!
each ethnicity is free to choose but you are limiting it to 6. Can you see how disingenuous you are 😂. In delta state alone you will have like 4 countries .
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by Gerrard59(m): 2:00pm On Jul 11, 2024
Here is the news: Nigeria cannot divide.

For Nigeria to divide, there has to be a war, bloodier and deadlier than the Civil War. No country in recent history, say the 21st Century, aside from the breakup of the Soviet Union, has divided without a war. Even Kosovo which is "divided" is not recognised by the China/Russia bloc in the International Community. This brings me to an important part: for a country to successfully divide and function, it needs to be recognised by all major power blocs in the International Community. The international community here is: The West and its allies, India, China/Russia, Brazil, Turkey, Saudi Arabia etc. Failure to get these parties to recognise your new country means life would be miserable for every citizen. It means you people are cut off from international trade and travel. The poverty will be X2 of what they experienced while in Nigeria. Other examples are Northern Cyprus and to an extent Taiwan.

Please note, I am not a fan of "One Naijeriya", but we have to grasp reality here. Any division of present-day Nigeria WILL not happen without a bloody war.
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by Kaczynski: 2:09pm On Jul 11, 2024
Nigeria can never and will never divide


Cap that senseless taught



Nigeria will work better under a benevolent dictator not a western puppet

Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by lastkingsman: 3:06pm On Jul 11, 2024
Gerrard59:
Here is the news: Nigeria cannot divide.

For Nigeria to divide, there has to be a war, bloodier and deadlier than the Civil War. No country in recent history, say the 21st Century, aside from the breakup of the Soviet Union, has divided without a war. Even Kosovo which is "divided" is not recognised by the China/Russia bloc in the International Community. This brings me to an important part: for a country to successfully divide and function, it needs to be recognised by all major power blocs in the International Community. The international community here is: The West and its allies, India, China/Russia, Brazil, Turkey, Saudi Arabia etc. Failure to get these parties to recognise your new country means life would be miserable for every citizen. It means you people are cut off from international trade and travel. The poverty will be X2 of what they experienced while in Nigeria. Other examples are Northern Cyprus and to an extent Taiwan.

Please note, I am not a fan of "One Naijeriya", but we have to grasp reality here. Any division of present-day Nigeria WILL not happen without a bloody war.
Economic pressure as a result of looting and poor governance will collapse Nigeria. Nobody needs to fight any war. That's why I am standing on this mandate till 2031, Gandollars can run after Bulaba
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by gidgiddy: 3:56pm On Jul 11, 2024
SmartPolician:
By the way, this moniker doesn't subscribe to balkanization. I am all for restructuring and resource control by states.
Better forget restructuring, the North will never allow it
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by oluwasunkanmi97(m): 6:09pm On Jul 11, 2024
gidgiddy:
Better forget restructuring, the North will never allow it
True sha..

But wait.. The North... The North....

Who is this North ?
In reality this "North" might just be only one geopolitical zone that the whole country is giving too much respect to.
So, if something that will help every citizen greatly needs to be done, and the other zones plus the North Central agrees to the motion, if this "North" doesn't agree it will not stand ??
It is well
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by Gerrard59(m): 4:32am On Jul 12, 2024
lastkingsman:
Economic pressure as a result of looting and poor governance will collapse Nigeria. Nobody needs to fight any war. That's why I am standing on this mandate till 2031, Gandollars can run after Bulaba
Nothing will happen. You over-rate Nigerians. As long as Nigeria(ns) is divided across ethnic and religious lines, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. No protest in Nigeria has ever been united.
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by lastkingsman: 7:54am On Jul 12, 2024
Gerrard59:
Nothing will happen. You over-rate Nigerians. As long as Nigeria(ns) is divided across ethnic and religious lines, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. No protest in Nigeria has ever been united.
Lol, you don't really understand the economic pressure I am talking about. Wait until dollar gets to 2800+/$ and you will understand my point
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by WikeTheDrunk(f): 7:59am On Jul 12, 2024
Failed British experiment
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by bjdon: 8:53am On Jul 12, 2024
Omoawoke:
Look at those European countries, they work better because each to its own.
Denmark, Finland, Spain, Italy, Austria, France etc... The same people with same identity and language gather to form even smaller individual countries with fewrer populations.

West African countries were established to fulfill only one aim which is colonization, to divide and conquer.
Imagine a yoruba nation standing alone, igbo nation standing alone and Hausa nation standing alone.. We will work better individually and even as a team.

If you keep brothers in one house fighting and competing for the same resources, there won't be peace in that house and progress may be slow. But let each have their separate properties, they will work better and meet time to time in the family house for family meetings. They will have each others back better and work towards progress.
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By all means divide the country if you want, but do not think for one minute that will bring development and progress.
Look at all the states at the moment. Bad roads, no pipe borne water, dilapidated schools. The governors and LG are all corrupt and evil. The bottom line is we are a very wicked and evil people and dividing the country will not change that.


I hope someday Nigeria can divide! it will be for the greater good.
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by sultanofpigs: 8:56am On Jul 12, 2024
I almost fainted when I saw this thread by you...

I had to go through the thread again to be sure you actually wrote this..

This is impressive and it's good you understand what is obtainable.

NIGERIA is a fraud.. dissolution is the best way forward




Omoawoke:
Of course not!

But trust me, all these quarrel will stop and there will be better progress and even unity.
The political madness with end, people will elect better leaders. No more dumb power rotations and using religion and tribe to win elections will reduce
There will be boundaries and more mutual respect
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by sultanofpigs: 8:59am On Jul 12, 2024
Restructuring will still be the same as 1 NIGERIA. The Nonsense tribalism will still be implemented during elections cycles.

The elected leaders from regions will also continue scheming to be President to the detriment of their regions

Make NIGERIA scatter...don't you want Oduduwa Republic with Lagos and your own?

ONDO
OGUN
Lagos

They have Oyel na...

Let NIGERIA divide so you can't blame IGBOs for making you unprogressive.. comprehend?




ElSudani:
If properly restructured. Nigeria can be a really successful country. We do have some knuckleheads like boko haram, Ip.ob.s etc but that is not enough to give up on Nigeria.
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by bjdon: 8:59am On Jul 12, 2024
I am sorry but this is not the answer to our problems.
In current day Nigeria not a single state has running pipe borne water. If you don't have a bore hole na you know. Just think about that, not one state has been able to provide WATER. Now if you divide the country tomorrow is it not the same people that have been governors and senators from these states, that will now become the leaders of Arewa, Biafra, Odua...?
Our problems are wickedness, selfishness and lack of compassion. These traits are in way too many people in the country, and if you divide you will simply have the same traits in the new breakaway nations. Imagine a Biaffra with Orji Kalu as president or an Odua with Tinubu as president. Would it not be the same corruption that would manifest there?
We need a change of mindset and a proper rule based order to progress
Re: Nigeria Will Work Better If Divided by Sladem05: 4:18pm On Jan 30, 2025
ElSudani:
If properly restructured. Nigeria can be a really successful country. We do have some knuckleheads like boko haram, Ip.ob.s etc but that is not enough to give up on Nigeria.
No Nigeria doesn’t work or make sense as 1 country
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