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MaxInDHouse:
Both men were MEMBERS of a group before they were chosen by their group nah!

What is wrong with both desiring to be a pastor?

achorladey:
What is wrong with both desiring to be a pastor?

Nothing as they're members of a group where they are growing spiritually speaking and members of their group can testify to it unlike someone who just pick up the Bible and wants to become pastor over others?

MaxInDHouse:
As you said it's because you were still under brain damage back then but now that your brain is working perfectly how come you can't stand on your feet to criticize all the churches condemning others except Jehovah's Witnesses?

More problem for your lies and manipulations

As you said it's because you were still under brain damage

I need reference for the above. Where, date and day?

then but now that your brain is working perfectly

The doctors report or psychologist report about the above?

how come you can't stand on your feet to criticize all the churches condemning others except Jehovah's Witnesses?

Because your madness and insanities peddling brains cannot comprehend it when you stated you agree 100% in the one I highlighted between you and them.

MaxInDHouse:
Nothing as they're members of a group where they are growing spiritually speaking and members of their group can testify to it unlike someone who just pick up the Bible and wants to become pastor over others?

MightySparrow over to you. I have eventually draw the answers out of his lies and manipulations filled brains

achorladey:
No

MightySparrow asked....



You know the answer now. You can keep peddling your.....

You see this people are not honest with scriptures.

There are three clear ways by which one can become a pastor.

By appointment under a called person like Paul appointed Timothy and Titus

2. By desire, one can drsire it

3. By direct call from God. This was the experience of Apostles, Paul, Barnabas. Act's 13:2 Acts.13.2 - As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

Women were giving same unctions to be part of the work as missionaries, as prophetess, etc from the onset.

In most with women founders, churches I know, the churches have male pastors who teach but do not take over the callings of the woman.

If God empowers women with ministerial gifts as men, why would men prevent them?

I still maintain it that restraining women in the ministry is Paul's sole idea. In the Upper Room, Holy Spirit came upon both men and without discriminations.


Paul clearly said it , that I, not the Lord, put restraints on women.

1Cor.14.34 - Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Cor.14.35 - And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Three things here.
a. Are we under the Law?
No.
b. Women should cover their heads during ministration. Where?
In the market or on the farm?
The idea of head covering does not have any justifiable reason.


The argument of maximumSide and his group is the ministry of the Old Testament, the Tabernacle and Temple services. Things are different now.

All over the world, women are being called into ministry with clear evidences.


I still ask maximumSide and his club, what happens to the members of The Apostolic Faith and Four Square, being founded by women, in the kingdom of God?

achorladey:
MightySparrow over to you. I have eventually draw the answers out of his lies and manipulations filled brains

I used to attack him violently before. You see the cork sure 'closer to God- than - thou', deluded folks are loud on books and Nairaland.

MightySparrow:
I used to attack him violently before. You see the cork sure 'closer to God- than - thou', deluded folks are loud on books and Nairaland.

I agree they are loud on the letters rather than the spirit

MightySparrow:
You see this people are not honest with scriptures.

There are three clear ways by which one can become a pastor.

By appointment under a called person like Paul appointed Timothy and Titus

2. By desire, one can drsire it

3. By direct call from God. This was the experience of Apostles, Paul, Barnabas. Act's 13:2 Acts.13.2 - As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

Women were giving same unctions to be part of the work as missionaries, as prophetess, etc from the onset.

In most with women founders, churches I know, the churches have male pastors who teach but do not take over the callings of the woman.

If God empowers women with ministerial gifts as men, why would men prevent them?

I still maintain it that restraining women in the ministry is Paul's sole idea. In the Upper Room, Holy Spirit came upon both men and without discriminations.


Paul clearly said it , that I, not the Lord, put restraints on women.

1Cor.14.34 - Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Cor.14.35 - And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Three things here.
a. Are we under the Law?
No.
b. Women should cover their heads during ministration. Where?
In the market or on the farm?
The idea of head covering does not have any justifiable reason.


The argument of maximumSide and his group is the ministry of the Old Testament, the Tabernacle and Temple services. Things are different now.

All over the world, women are being called into ministry with clear evidences.


I still ask maximumSide and his club, what happens to the members of The Apostolic Faith and Four Square, being founded by women, in the kingdom of God?

When legalisms is taken high and above the manifestation of the gifts of the spirit. STIFLING of the leadings of the spirit is bound to happen.

MaxInDHouse:
I know my comments are really impressive just as your cohort achorladey and the rest knew but you guys won't admit rather you will continue to console yourselves in deception.
Well if you're sure i'm holding the words of men higher than that of God why not continue in holding the word of God higher than that of men nah? No wahala, Christians in the first century were also accused of holding the word of a man (Jesus) in higher esteem than the word of God yet the accusers won't allow them breath it's like their lives evolves around whatever the Christians say just as you and your cohorts are doing on this forum!

So from the bolded, your GBs can be placed on the same pedestal with Jesus?

achorladey:
When legalisms is taken high and above the manifestation of the gifts of the spirit. STIFLING of the leadings of the spirit is bound to happen.

You see am so.
Whenever a JW comes to me, I asked a question:
Do you know God?
They all stammer.

In the Old Testament , even singing in the Tabernacle and Temple was all men's affair. In their Halls today, women sing or do they hum?

Dis fifu sef

MaxInDHouse:
Trolling as usual!
Are you ready to take up the challenge where just you and i alone will ask questions about what each of us believe and answer affirmatively?
I will like us to try it then all your supporters should just like and share so as to allow us prove how competent we are scripturally.
Do you accept that?

puffed up and egotistical lost false jw mad max

like archorladey said:

achorladey: You constantly seek your self glorification

false jw, you are just like the devil, challenging everyone
your puffed up/prideful devil, who is just like you, thought he could even challenge Jehovah


A delusion of grandeur is the false belief in one's own superiority, greatness, or intelligence. People experiencing delusions of grandeur do not just have high self-esteem; instead, they believe in their own greatness and importance even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

everything about you so called jw's is false

by the way, your delusions of grandeur is mental disease



you don't have to ask people for a challenge, just challenge away
we will certainly show up some of your lies and madness

MightySparrow:
You see am so.
Whenever a JW comes to me, I asked a question:
Do you know God?
They all stammer.

In the Old Testament , even singing in the Tabernacle and Temple was all men's affair. In their Halls today, women sing or do they hum?

Dis fifu sef

Jman05(a Jehovah’s witness now deactivated) and Muttleylaff....

Muttleylaff:

PMSL
Just answer the question now. You will see the connection if you had answered
So, here is the question again, that I am extremely anxious for you to reply to:
Do women sing songs in ekklessia, ''church'', congregation
or sing songs in Jehovah Witness gatherings, where men are present?
Is it Yes or No?

Jman05:

They sing songs, but remain silent when issue affecting the feeding of the sheep is discussed in church service. They are not authorised to challenge men, or feed the flock, but to learn in silence.

Achorladey: when they start adding but but but but legalisms enters everywhere

FxMasterz:
So from the bolded, your GBs can be placed on the same pedestal with Jesus?

They are his representatives today! Matthew 24:45

Jesus said it will mean destruction for whoever fails to RECOGNIZE them and assist them in the time of the end when they will need the support of millions in doing the work Jesus assigned to them! Matthew 25:34-46

I'm sure you will find it difficult to understand but that's your problem not mine since you're not interested in knowing the group Jesus is using in the time of the end to gather his subjects throughout the earth!

MaxInDHouse:
They are his representatives today! Matthew 24:45[/b]

Jesus said it will mean destruction for whoever fails to RECOGNIZE them and assist them in the time of the end when they will need the support of millions in doing the work Jesus assigned to them! Matthew 25:34-46

I'm sure you will find it difficult to understand but that's your problem not mine since you're not interested in knowing the group Jesus is using in the time of the end to gather his subjects throughout the earth!

Where were their names written in the scripture you quoted?

FxMasterz:
Where were their names written in the scripture you quoted?

Funny churchian.

Was Jesus' name written in the scriptures (OT) his disciples were quoting to prove that he is the Christ?

MaxInDHouse:
Funny churchian.

Was Jesus' name written in the scriptures (OT) his disciples were quoting to prove that he is the Christ?

His birthplace and nature of conception singled Him out.

FxMasterz:
His birthplace and nature of conception singled Him out.

So if Jesus' name wasn't found written in the OT and you're here questioning the authenticity of his reps that their names weren't written in the scriptures then see yourself as a potential unbelieving Jew criticizing and persecuting Jesus' disciples in the first century because the first question they will ask is:
"What name did the scriptures say the Messiah who is to be born by a virgin would be called?"
Note that the name was Emmanuel not Jesus. Isaiah 7:14
Then they will ask you "what is the name of the man you called the Messiah?"
If you should say "Jesus" it's a heavy slap you will receive in your cheek because to them you are LYING!

Ọmọ duty calls i've got business to do now so i may not be able to continue responding quickly to your post because i want to connect my business associates online.

See you later!

FxMasterz:
Where were their names written in the scripture you quoted?

He said they are his representatives

They are not on the same pedestal with Jesus Christ

He can choose to bow down to them and be used as doormat it will not change that they and Jesus are not on same pedestal

MaxInDHouse:
So if Jesus' name wasn't found written in the OT and you're here questioning the authenticity of his reps that their names weren't written in the scriptures then see yourself as a potential unbelieving Jew criticizing and persecuting Jesus' disciples in the first century because the first question they will ask is:
"What name did the scriptures say the Messiah who is to be born by a virgin would be called?"
Note that the name was Emmanuel not Jesus. Isaiah 7:14
Then they will ask you "what is the name of the man you called the Messiah?"
If you should say "Jesus" it's a heavy slap you will receive in your cheek because to them you are LYING!

Ọmọ duty calls i've got business to do now so i may not be able to continue responding quickly to your post because i want to connect my business associates online.

See you later!

You were the one who actually said the scriptures spoke about them. However, the scripture never said anyone follower of Christ will be a JW, worshipper of angel Michael or mentioned names. The claims you have can also be made by the Catholics and any other church. All churches have a congregation with leaders over them who feed them with the Word of God.

achorladey:
He said they are his representatives

They are not on the same pedestal with Jesus Christ

He can choose to bow down to them and be used as doormat it will not change that they and Jesus are not on same pedestal

He should tell us when and where Christ endorsed or announced them as His representatives.

FxMasterz:
The claims you have can also be made by the Catholics and any other church.

The claim that the Christ has come can also be refuted by Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis since all of them had the scriptures back then and quoting from it.
So if Jesus' name or that of his disciples never appeared in the OT the Beroeans will take their time to study the scriptures thoroughly in order to ascertain if the young man from Nazareth and his disciples truly fulfilled many of the things written in the scriptures regarding the presence of the Christ in Israel.

FxMasterz:
He should tell us when and where Christ endorsed or announced them as His representatives.

You don't know what you're saying.
Go and face a Jewish Judaist and tell him when and where Jesus' name was endorsed or announced in the scriptures (OT) as the Christ.

In fact they will beat you up like anything if you can't point out that name from Genesis to Malachi, you think because his disciples have played their part in recognizing his as the Christ that makes you a believer?

Ọmọ whatever the disciples of Christ wrote in the (NT) is not for anyone today to believe that Jesus is the Christ anymore they have fought and won that battle, their writings is for you and i to IDENTIFY the GROUP following their footsteps today not about identifying the Christ again.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know what you're saying.
Go and face a Jewish Judaist and tell him when and where Jesus' name was endorsed or announced in the scriptures (OT) as the Christ.

In fact they will beat you up like anything if you can't point out that name from Genesis to Malachi, you think because his disciples have played their part in recognizing his as the Christ that makes you a believer?

Ọmọ whatever the disciples of Christ wrote in the (NT) is not for anyone today to believe that Jesus is the Christ anymore they have fought and won that battle, their writings is for you and i to IDENTIFY the GROUP following their footsteps today not about identifying the Christ again.

My dear, the fact that many Priests, Scribes and Jews came to believe in Jesus even when He was still on earth makes your argument invalid. Look for another thing to say.

John 7:31
"Many among the crowds at the Temple believed in him. “After all,” they said, “would you expect the Messiah to do more miraculous signs than this man has done?”

Acts 6:7-11
"Then the word of God spread, and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were obedient to the faith. And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and signs among the people."

MaxInDHouse:
The claim that the Christ has come can also be refuted by Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis since all of them had the scriptures back then and quoting from it.
So if Jesus' name or that of his disciples never appeared in the OT the Beroeans will take their time to study the scriptures thoroughly in order to ascertain if the young man from Nazareth and his disciples truly fulfilled many of the things written in the scriptures regarding the presence of the Christ in Israel.

Lol. Why do you like doing back and forth?

We're talking about your claims of your leaders being Christ's representatives!

We're like the Bereans today. We tested you with scriptures and you failed woefully.

FxMasterz:
He should tell us when and where Christ endorsed or announced them as His representatives.

He can only tell with lies and manipulations packed into his brains

FxMasterz:
Lol. Why do you like doing back and forth?

We're talking about your claims of your leaders being Christ's representatives!

We're like the Bereans today. We tested you with scriptures and you failed woefully.

Starting from the fact that they said Jesus selected them in 1919 while as at that time they were still peddling false doctrines up till today

achorladey:
Starting from the fact that they said Jesus selected them in 1919 while as at that time they were still peddling false doctrines up till today

False doctrines including false prophecies.

FxMasterz:
False doctrines including false prophecies.

Looool, Jesus selected false prophets as his representatives

FxMasterz:
My dear, the fact that many Priests, Scribes and Jews came to believe in Jesus even when He was still on earth makes your argument invalid. Look for another thing to say.
John 7:31
"Many among the crowds at the Temple believed in him. “After all,” they said, “would you expect the Messiah to do more miraculous signs than this man has done?”
Acts 6:7-11
"Then the word of God spread, and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were obedient to the faith. And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and signs among the people."

So how come only 2% of Jews today agreed that Jesus was a prophet?

FxMasterz:
Lol. Why do you like doing back and forth?
We're talking about your claims of your leaders being Christ's representatives!
We're like the Bereans today. We tested you with scriptures and you failed woefully.

The Beroeans checked the scriptures to figure out if what the Christians said about their leader is true so if you want to behave like the Beroeans you should figure out the true religion not just going about calling everything false!

MaxInDHouse:
The Beroeans checked the scriptures to figure out if what the Christians said about their leader is true so if you want to behave like the Beroeans you should figure out the true religion not just going about calling everything false!

We've checked you out. You're as fake as your fake prophecies of Christ's coming.

MaxInDHouse:
So how come only 2% of Jews today agreed that Jesus was a prophet?

Are you saying the Bible lied?