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Michael547:
Is this not your hand writing again? Are you saying that you are wrong for saying that you feel that some speaking in tongues is just for showoff?
How do you know that the tongue is true?
How do you know that the speaking in tongues is for showoff and that they are not being led to speak by the spirit?

Sigh...but I am typing English naaa ..

A tongue can be understandable and be show off.... People learn other tongues just to come and speak it in a congregation to gain approval of men.....

See ..it's like u are looking for something I said to accuse me...see we don't have to agree ooo ......because I dont get what u are trying to prove

advanceDNA:
Sigh...but I am typing English naaa ..

A tongue can be understandable and be show off.... People learn other tongues just to come and speak it in a congregation to gain approval of men.....

See ..it's like u are looking for something I said to accuse me...see we don't have to agree ooo ......because I dont get what u are trying to prove

Oga you've claimed that one today cannot know whether a speaking in tongues is true or false....so if you see someone claiming to speak in tongues and you agree that the person is really speaking in tongues by the Holy Spirit, don't I also have the right to say the person is not actually speaking in tongues through the holy spirit? Why must I agree with you since we cannot really tell if the person is actually lying or not?

Michael547:
Oga you've claimed that one today cannot know whether a speaking in tongues is true or false....so if you see someone claiming to speak in tongues and you agree that the person is really speaking in tongues by the Holy Spirit, don't I also have the right to say the person is not actually speaking in tongues through the holy spirit? Why must I agree with you since we cannot really tell if the person is actually lying or not?

Do u know what being a devil's advocate means in a dialogue??

Hahahahahahaha.....When did I ask u to agree with me or say u must agree with me? I did not even mention u....u are the one that came into my mentions to start a dialogue to counter my devil's advocate opinion

Guy its like u are taking this issue personal...
If I offend u ......No vex oooooo

advanceDNA:
Do u know what being a devil's advocate means in a dialogue??

Hahahahahahaha.....When did I ask u to agree with me or say u must agree with me? I did not even mention u....u are the one that came into my mentions to start a dialogue to counter my devil's advocate opinion

Guy its like u are taking this issue personal...
If I offend u ......No vex oooooo

I am not taking the issue personal. I saw that you have issues with people who do not agree that people practice the biblical speaking in tongues today. You should not have a problem with them if you also claim that people actually practice it today but cannot determine or prove which one is true or false.

Michael547:
I am not taking the issue personal. I saw that you have issues with people who do not agree that people practice the biblical speaking in tongues today. You should not have a problem with them if you also claim that people actually practice it today but cannot determine or prove which one is true or false.

What are u saying ..??I don't have issues with anyone.....it's just exchange of opinion... Geez

advanceDNA:
What are u saying ..??I don't have issues with anyone.....it's just exchange of opinion... Geez

Ok...ooo....no wahala

AntiChristian:
Even with the Holy Spirit he still chose Judas. Does that mean the Holy Spirit isn't perfect? Even after the 12 disciples, Paul was appointed again as an emergency disciple after Jesus left! Jesus sure didn't select them well!

Jesus was meant to die and someone was meant to betray him. Prophet Isaiah Chapter 53 spoke about his type of death. So it is inevitable that someone would betray him. Judas chose to play the role of a betrayer.

Paul was not appointed as an emergency disciple. I don't know where you got that interpretation from. So Pst Oyedepo, Rev Fr Ozelle etc are emergency apostles? Paul was a convert like all of us but his zeal for the kingdom of God which was misdirected initially was properly channelled when he encountered the Boss.

AntiChristian:
This is subjective to many factors! Are you saying God is yet to know Jesus?

You didn't understand the analogy. Jesus did not give the apostles the Holy Spirit when he was with them because they were still being taught. In some churches, laying on hands is preceded by what they call the life in the spirit seminar, a series of teaching that mirrors the time Jesus was teaching his disciples. He could not give them the Holy Ghost with those gifts because they wouldn't have been able to manage the gifts. It is like using 100 million to settle Nwaboy who does not know the business or putting him in charge of a shop when he has not mastered the trade.

AntiChristian:
So you mean Jesus and the Holy Spirit are equal to one another's presence?

Christians believe in the triune God. God the father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. The presence of one represents the rest.

AntiChristian:
After Jesus said it is finished then the Holy spirit came to continue what again?

Jesus came to lay the foundation of the church and Holy Spirit built on it through the work of the apostle.

It is finished means that debt we owe because of sin, has been paid in full. So when you accept Jesus as the son of God, you believe that he rose from the dead, you are freed from original sin and you will be forgiven of any sin you will commit afterwards because he pleads to on behalf of those who believe. The wages of sin is death and we mean the second death in the lake of fire.

Will you accept him today? May the Lord encounter like he encountered Saul and he became Paul. I pray that the genuine hunger for the truth will keep restless until you find Jesus, in Jesus name, Amen!

AntiChristian:
What spirit descends on Samson whenever he wants to kill?

the power of God

wizod:
the power of God

Which kind power of God?

Leemzyy:
Why not?as long as you wouldn't touch her immediately just as our prophet did,isn't it better to give out your child 2 marriage than give chance for fornification and illegal acts,and your answer is yes! i can give my child 2 you at that age 4 marriage as long as you are responsible and stable

Let me get this straight. First you are saying it is ok to sleep with a 9 yr old girl since Muhammad did it just because it is better not to fornicate?
In other words a female has no right to decide who she wants to marry as according to you and Islam she can be married out at any age as long as she is disvirgined by an adult as old as 50 or more in marriage?

BrighterSyde:
Let me get this straight. First you are saying it is ok to sleep with a 9 yr old girl since Muhammad did it just because it is better not to fornicate?
In other words a female has no right to decide who she wants to marry as according to you and Islam she can be married out at any age as long as she is disvirgined by an adult as old as 50 or more in marriage?

If thats your view point,then i wouldnt argue with you

Leemzyy:
If thats your view point,then i wouldnt argue with you

This is the best answer cos trying to defend this would have just made Islam even look worse. I mean how can a human being be deprived of the right to decide when and who she wants to marry and the reason is to avoid fornication? How? Better just keep giving this kind of answer anytime you are asked.

BrighterSyde:
This is the best answer cos trying to defend this would have just made Islam even look worse. I mean how can a human being be deprived of the right to decide when and who she wants to marry and the reason is to avoid fornication? How? Better just keep giving this kind of answer anytime you are asked.

When did i state fornication as a reason?i only said its better than doing so

Leemzyy:
When did i state fornication as a reason?i only said its better than doing so

Ow so you can answer that cos it looked like I misinterpreted you right? Now use that same energy to tell me whether it makes sense that you deny a young girl the chance to be the one to choose her suitor just so she can be married off to a man at 6 yrs old and then made to have sex at 9.

BrighterSyde:
Ow so you can answer that cos it looked like I misinterpreted you right? Now use that same energy to tell me whether it makes sense that you deny a young girl the chance to be the one to choose her suitor just so she can be married off to a man at 6 yrs old and then made to have sex at 9.

And did she complain 2 you?why taking someone's matter on your head like a burden,when she never complain 4 even once throughout

Leemzyy:
And did she complain 2 you?why taking someone's matter on your head like a burden,when she never complain 4 even once throughout

Again you are avoiding the question. I will still answer your question.
No she did not complain. That is the same way millions of Muslim women around the world are not supposed to complain when they realize they have been married off and have been dsivrigined by men old enough to be their fathers.

Now answer my question. Does it make sense that a little child should be denied the right to make the decision on whom and when to marry? Does it make sense that a girl as young as 9 cannot decide what happens to her body but must follow what older men or a religion says is what will happen to her body? Is she not supposed to have a right over her body?

Martinez39s:
The ways people delude themselves and others. SMH.

Speaking in tongues is bullcrap.

Mocking religious people yet you are but a victim of bigotry, cult- ideologies and clannish brotherhood. More of a pot calling kettle black.
. why cant you leave this people alone, since they claim it works for them?

David0002:
In the bible, speaking in tongues started on the day of pentecost, when the disciples of Jesus or the apostles were baptized with the Holy Ghost. They were speaking in the other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. You can find it in Acts chapter 2. Read it yourself.

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David0002:
I really thank God for giving me the gift of speaking in tongues, ever since then, my prayer life has changed. Now I can pray for 3 hours, 4 hours without getting tired.

I still remember 31st of may, 2024. It is a day I will never forget. I didn't even dream that I will ever speak in tongues, I never prayed about it, infact I was not expecting it.

Let me tell you you truth, initially, I hated the idea of praying in tongues, I thought it was not possible, I thought it was scam, I thought that people were just speaking anything that comes out of their mouth. It was because I have prayed earnestly for it before that God should give me this gift and enable me to pray in tongues, but I didn't see it forth-coming. I prayed seriously for it, read books that dealth on Holy Ghost baptism, exercised my faith, opened my mouth for God to fill it, yet nothing happened, so I gave up the idea and stopped praying about it. But little did I know that God heard the prayer and was waiting for the appointed time to bring it to manifestation.

On that day, I was hungry to just praise and worship God and nothing more. Once it was 4.pm in the evening, I started with praise. I praised God for a very long time.

After I was true with praise, I entered into deep worship song. I worship God with songs with all my heart for a very long time.

When I was true with worshipping God with songs, I entered into a prayer of praise and. I began to call God sweet names, I was calling Him by His attributes praising and and worshipping Him. Then I became tired. I decided to sit down because I have been standing for over one hour.

As I sat down, I felt a sensation in my body, from that moment, I knew in my spirit that something was about to happen, and it happened.

Immediately something began to move from my body, immediately, it came to my mouth. Before I knew it, my mouth opened, I started to speak in tongues or pray in tongues. It was so powerful. It was like rivers of living water flowing out of my belly.

For almost 45 minutes, I was praying in tongues as the Holy Spirit gave me utterance. It was so great. It was lovely. It was so much that it didn't want to stop. It was like borehole water that doesn't finish, infact I have to force myself to stop it.

After that encounter, my prayer life has never remained the same. I can now pray for longer hours like 3 hours, 4 hours without getting tired. Before I received the gift of tongues, I could only pray for 30 minutes to 1 hour before getting tired or running out of words.

It has reached to the extent of whenever I want to pray but don't know what to pray, I will pray a simple prayer and tell God that I want to pray in tongues that the Holy Spirit should possess my lips, and that the Holy Spirit should pray through me. Immediately, my lips will open and I will start praying in tongues. God is alive, and He answers prayer. My prayer life have changed since then. Infact I am addicted to prayer. It is burning inside of me. Any day that passes without me praying is like I want to die. I can't survive without prayer.

My fellow pastor, evangelist, brother, sister, desire this gift of praying in tongues. It is more powerful and effective than praying with your understanding. By praying in tongues, you don't know what you are praying. But in the spirit, you are speaking mysteries. As you are praying in tongues, God can use your prayer and heal someone in China. Your prayer can travel to India, Japan, U.S.A, London, even to your village etc and lose someone in bondage.

I plead with you, desire this gift more than anything else. Remember, prayer is a powerful weapon. With it, you can touch anybody around the world right on your knees.

Good morning and have a pleasant day.

Happy Sunday.

advanceDNA:
Lol... news flash.. bli or ble whatever way u want to spell it means to grow, or to become in Norwegian....google is ur friendd

Ore, except you are speaking that Norwegian language or any other language, and use the blebleble, then it makes sense else that's gibberish. When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them how to pray, there was no blebleble in this command of prayer, it was simple and straight forward and I want to believe that irrespective of the situation, the Lord's prayer is enough to move God and not all of these craziness all around.

advanceDNA:
I am a devil's advocate here.....I don't understand all languages ...so I don't think it's necessary to say someone's tongues is rubbish because I don't understand it..Remember the acts of apostles pple quote also said the disciples were accused of being drunk because they don't understand....
I watched discovery channel one day and I saw a newly discovered remote area...u need to hear the stúpid language they were speaking...doesn't even sound like human being conversing

But the people in Acts heard them speak their languages and were amazed, isn't it? I'm sure their fluency and proficiency in the language was surprising too and it was not just a repetition of a word, are you understanding what I'll trying to say. Imagine how surprised those people in that remote area will be seeing you, someone who understands only English, speak their funny language fluently?

alfredfrddy:
Ore, except you are speaking that Norwegian language or any other language, and use the blebleble, then it makes sense else that's gibberish. When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them how to pray, there was no blebleble in this command of prayer, it was simple and straight forward and I want to believe that irrespective of the situation, the Lord's prayer is enough to move God and not all of these craziness all around.

me I dont know how you read your own bible ooo ..the account of speaking in other tongues was after the receiving the holy Ghost which Jesus promised would happened after he had returned to father status...so saying Jesus ddnt teach them to speak in tongues is just straw man argument.....or u don't even understand the bible

alfredfrddy:
But the people in Acts heard them speak their languages and were amazed, isn't it??

go read the account again......they were actually speaking gibberish..because others they were accused at the upper room of being drunk for speaking nonsense..... which was why Peter came through to explain "saying these men are not drunk" that it the power of God being witnessed as promised....
The few pple that heard the disciples speak their own respective native language was a miracle done by God ..if u care read the place again

If the pple ddnt hear gibberish, why were dey accused of being drunk,? Why was Peter explaining on their behalf that they aren't drunk.
...besides ....the upper room even is an isolated case ....it's not a standard ...
.. because if u read another account 1cor 14, Paul told the early church it is better to speak in tongues in prayer to God ....and not to the entire congregation if there is no one else given the interpretation by the holy Ghost at that time as it was of no essence speaking tongues no one understands