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Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by IfnobeGod20(m): 2:08am On Jul 18, 2024
Omoboricash:
You are been economical with truth. SDP and NRC was formed by Babangida during Abiola and Tofa presidential election. AD, PDP ANPP were formed by politicians not by then head of state Abdusalam. Fact chexk ypur point before yoi disgrace urself outside
Mr. Man, SDP is the only political party still in existence since over 30 years now and has not changed name.
Please can you fact check that.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by IfnobeGod20(m): 2:11am On Jul 18, 2024
yemmit90:
They are correcting you, yet you still not listen to correction. SDP was only transmitted to AD, later AC and ACN. They are just changing names and not parties. Same way majority of NRC members and SDP members from the North formed PDP.

Tinubu is the only politicians alive that have not change political platform since inception of forth Republic.
You're an ugly liar. SDP has not changed for over 30 years of existence. The only political party still in existence till date.
Tinubu left SDP that made him a senator. Tinubu left AD that called him back from exile and made him governor. You guys should stop lying. No gain in lying but only reduces you.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by opamoses1: 2:15am On Jul 18, 2024
Gbajue party gbajue followers. He must have discovered that Obidient is not different from IPOB.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by IfnobeGod20(m): 2:16am On Jul 18, 2024
Alexiiydon:
is AC and ACN still a political partyhuh Ask obi if APGA and PDP are still in existence 🦧
But SDP and ADP still in existence till date. Why did Tinubu left these parties?
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by IfnobeGod20(m): 2:20am On Jul 18, 2024
StJasper:
Did you say Tinubu dumped SDP for AD? I wonder who breastfed you with milk of stupidity.

Were you even born before 1992? If your answer is yes, then you were still an infant then.
In this you're the one fully breastfed with good atom of stupidity that you never know that SDP is the only political party in Nigeria today that has been in existence more than 30 years now and had not changed name or logo. Even AD that Tinubu used to win governorship election in election in 1999 has changed to ADP.
Stop showcasing your full potential stupidity to the world.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by IfnobeGod20(m): 2:23am On Jul 18, 2024
Throwback:
Did SDP exist when Nigeria was to return to democracy with the death of Gen Sani Abacha?
Yes, it was. The only political party still in existence till date, spanning over 30 years now.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by tishbite42: 2:27am On Jul 18, 2024
IfnobeGod20:
Mr. Man, SDP is the only political party still in existence since over 30 years now and has not changed name.
Please can you fact check that.
Stop wasting your time with these zombies
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by georgeakins: 2:30am On Jul 18, 2024
AcuraZDX:
Nothing new.

Same way Tinubu dumped SDP for AD, scattered AD and later jumped to AC and later ACN which merged to form current APC.

That's 4 political parties!!

You can fact check me!!

Cross carpeting isn't a new thing in politics.

Modified: See the way Tinubu Supporters are hurling insults because of this known fact. Wahala😂

It's obvious most of you supporting him are kids and very very uninformed.
Biaflan monkey,
By 2027, only Obi and his deranged , illiterate blodas will remain in Labour party.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by IfnobeGod20(m): 2:31am On Jul 18, 2024
success1smyn:
Tinubu never dump any political party.

SDP stopped existing after the June 12 election that was annulled in 1993. AD was formed in 1998 towards return of democracy in 1999 and Tinubu was a founding member - one of the leaders of the party.
After 2003 election, his part split into 2 factions and his faction went to form another party - AC which later became ACN to reflect national acceptance (one of the reasons for the factionalism in AD). And ACN merged with other political parties to form a mega party to tackle PDP. So when did Tinubu dump any party?
Why are you people always lying unabated. Tinubu left AD with his faction to form AC with merger with JP and ACP. Please what do they call that? Oh! na transfer or secondment? Please what is wrong with you people's brains?
Again, SDP is the only political party still in existence more than 30 years now and never changed name or logo.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by Throwback: 2:46am On Jul 18, 2024
IfnobeGod20:
Yes, it was. The only political party still in existence till date, spanning over 30 years now.
You are a baby if you do not know that Abacha swept away both SDP and NRC, then started his own 5 parties, who were all planning to endorse him before his death.

Those Abacha 5 parties,

1. United Nigeria Congress Party (UNCP)
2. Congress for National Concensus (CNC)
3. Grassroot Democracy Movement (GDM)
4. Democratic Party of Nigeria (DPN)
5. National Center Party of Nigeria (NCPN)

Did not include any SDP or NRC.

Nor was there any SDP or NRC when during the Abdulsalami Abubakar regime, we had PDP, APP and AD.

The current SDP only came about some few years ago, just as NRC can be recreated anytime if any group of politicians feel so inclined, but that will not mean it has been existing all this while.

Or you mean if AG or NCNC is created again, it would mean the newly formed party have been existing since before independence?

So those of us who are not ignorant, are right to say Tinubu did not dump any party, but has entered into alliances with his faction of AD to have the current APC. All the time being a foundational member and not a ticket hunter member looking for where food is ready.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by usagee36: 2:53am On Jul 18, 2024
Hunger.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by jaxxy(m):
Labour isn't very organised and it's Important they get their acts together if they intend to achieve anything sustainable.

That said, we all know tinubu is not a bigot (he is surrounded by some bigots tho) however he did not win the election and even after entering by all means and ways he hasn't performed up to expectations. The reasons are not farfetched.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by Tflex01: 3:04am On Jul 18, 2024
Globad:
Hehehehe

Why not include UPN or NPN?
Or Action Group self. 😂
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by IfnobeGod20(m):
Throwback:
You are a baby if you do not know that Abacha swept away both SDP and NRC, then started his own 5 parties, who were all planning to endorse him before his death.

Those Abacha 5 parties,

1. United Nigeria Congress Party (UNCP)
2. Congress for National Concensus (CNC)
3. Grassroot Democracy Movement (GDM)
4. Democratic Party of Nigeria (DPN)
5. National Center Party of Nigeria (NCPN)

Did not include any SDP or NRC.

Nor was there any SDP or NRC when during the Abdulsalami Abubakar regime, we had PDP, APP and AD.

The current SDP only came about some few years ago, just as NRC can be recreated anytime if any group of politicians feel so inclined, but that will not mean it has been existing all this while.

Or you mean if AG or NCNC is created again, it would mean the newly formed party have been existing since before independence.
Mr. Man, you're talking to an adult and not a kid.
The bigger question you have refused to ask yourself is, why did Tinubu left AD? AD was still an active political party when Tinubu left them. If he so much believe in building party, he should have stayed in the party and weather the storm with them but he left it to merge with JP and ACP to form AC. Remember AD did not die as at the time he left them, even till date. Only they changed name to ADP.
Now, let me tell you why he left the AD, because he has no control of the party and his vision is to become the president of the country one day and that was why in all his 8 years as a governor, he was just playing politics while his commissioners were the one working for him and luckily he has many cerebral commissioners that can think out of the box for him. That is why you see anyone that dare him are always boxed and brushed aside. Tinubu was the only governor that used 3 deputy governors In a space of 8 years in the history of Nigeria because you dare challenge him. He was totally in control of political structure because of future ambition of becoming a president. That's why you see him poking his nose in all the states choosing who and who to be governor or that.

Now, on the issue of SDP. Have you asked yourself the question. Why didn't Tinubu reactivate SDP when he came from exile in 1998 and who later reactivated SDP? The bottom line is, SDP made Tinubu a senator and he started his political journey from SDP and that cannot be taken away from him, just the same way those that began their political journey from NRC cannot deny their root. As Tinubu always say he is a party man, SDP is a part and parcel of him and the only political party still in existence more than 30 years now, no logo changed.

Point of correction. During Abdulsalam we only have PDP, ANPP and AD. It was after the joint ticket of ANPP and AD that they formed APP for the sake of the election.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by Tflex01: 3:20am On Jul 18, 2024
Sheuns:
They’ve so long sold the lies that Tinubu has remained in a party all his political life. That’s not true. Like someone above rightly said he crossed from SDP to AD, formed AC which was renamed to ACN and later merged with other parties to form APC. So that’s SDP - AD - AC - ACN - APC
Tinubu is the president and C-in-C today because he wasn't jumping like frog from one party to the other like Obi and Atiku. Tinubu was a founding father and was the one bringing people into the party after rebranding, unlike your agulu messiah. 😂

😂

Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by IfnobeGod20(m):
Tflex01:
Tinubu is president and C-in-C today because he wasn't jumping like frog from one party to the other like Obi and Atiku. Tinubu was a founding father to all the parties you mentioned was the one bringing people into the party unlike your agulu messiah. 😂

😂
I hear another thing today. Tinubu is the founding father of SDP and AD says Tflex01. E ku iro la.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by Tflex01:
IfnobeGod20:
I hear another thing today. Tinubu is the founding father of SDP and AD says Tflex01. E ku ero la.
Your Obi is the new Atiku of our political space, he will keep decamping from one political party to the other till old age.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by Bobloco: 3:29am On Jul 18, 2024
Alexiiydon:
is AC and ACN still a political partyhuh Ask obi if APGA and PDP are still in existence 🦧
I didn't mention you in my comment

Obi is not the reason for your frustrations; Tinubu's calamitous economic policies are responsible; kindly channel your frustrations appropriately. Thanks
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by BabaAduras:
AcuraZDX:
Nothing new.

Same way Tinubu dumped SDP for AD, scattered AD and later jumped to AC and later ACN which merged to form current APC.

That's 4 political parties!!

You can fact check me!!

Cross carpeting isn't a new thing in politics.

Modified: See the way Tinubu Supporters are hurling insults because of this known fact. Wahala😂

It's obvious most of you supporting him are kids and very very uninformed.
One of the ills of social media is that it allows fools to propagate their stupidity with fabricated lies like yours.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by Shikena(m): 3:40am On Jul 18, 2024
Totally different party.

IBB's SDP and NRC were dissolved by Abacha.


IfnobeGod20:
Mr. Man, SDP is the only political party still in existence since over 30 years now and has not changed name.
Please can you fact check that.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by Shikena(m): 3:43am On Jul 18, 2024
You are absolutely right.
The guy debating you on these facts is confused.

Throwback:
You are a baby if you do not know that Abacha swept away both SDP and NRC, then started his own 5 parties, who were all planning to endorse him before his death.

Those Abacha 5 parties,

1. United Nigeria Congress Party (UNCP)
2. Congress for National Concensus (CNC)
3. Grassroot Democracy Movement (GDM)
4. Democratic Party of Nigeria (DPN)
5. National Center Party of Nigeria (NCPN)

Did not include any SDP or NRC.

Nor was there any SDP or NRC when during the Abdulsalami Abubakar regime, we had PDP, APP and AD.

The current SDP only came about some few years ago, just as NRC can be recreated anytime if any group of politicians feel so inclined, but that will not mean it has been existing all this while.

Or you mean if AG or NCNC is created again, it would mean the newly formed party have been existing since before independence?

So those of us who are not ignorant, are right to say Tinubu did not dump any party, but has entered into alliances with his faction of AD to have the current APC. All the time being a foundational member and not a ticket hunter member looking for where food is ready.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by IfnobeGod20(m): 3:48am On Jul 18, 2024
Tflex01:
Your Obi is the new Atiku of our political space, he will keep decamping every time but he will never be the president.
You see another diversion tactics after you've been caught pants down. After you lied to the world that Tinubu is the founding father of SDP and AD, you now stylishly trying to divert attention. Oni olohun rara.
I pray you will not die lying.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by Throwback:
IfnobeGod20:
Mr. Man, you're talking to an adult and not a kid.
The bigger question you have refused to ask yourself is, why did Tinubu left AD? AD was still an active political party when Tinubu left them. If he so much believe in building party, he should have stayed in the party and weather the storm with them but he left it to merge with JP and ACP to form AC. Remember AD did not die as at the time he left them, even till date. Only they changed name to ADP.
Now, let me tell you why he left the AD, because he has no control of the party and his vision is to become the president of the country one day and that was why in all his 8 years as a governor, he was just playing politics while his commissioners were the one working for him and luckily he has many cerebral commissioners that can think out of the box for him. That is why you see anyone that dare him are always boxed and brushed aside. Tinubu was the only governor that used 3 deputy governors In a space of 8 years in the history of Nigeria because you dare challenge him. He was totally in control of political structure because of future ambition of becoming a president. That's why you see him poking his nose in all the states choosing who and who to be governor or that.

Now, on the issue of SDP. Have you asked yourself the question. Why didn't Tinubu reactivate SDP when he came from exile in 1998 and who later reactivated SDP? The bottom line is, SDP made Tinubu a senator and he started his political journey from SDP and that cannot be taken away from him, just the same way those that began their political journey from NRC cannot deny their root. As Tinubu always say he is a party man, SDP is a part and parcel of him and the only political party still in existence more than 30 years now, no logo changed.

Point of correction. During Abdulsalam we only have PDP, ANPP and AD. It was after the joint ticket of ANPP and AD that they formed APP for the sake of the election.
Point of correction, it was APP that later changed name to ANPP, just as AC changed bame to ACN.

The military government of Abdulsalami Abubakar was allowing formation of new parties and not a revival of old parties that were linked to the June 12 crises. So it was not Tinubu's place or any of the party chairman of thise old partues, like Tony Anenih, to re-establish any of SDP or NRC.

Jusf as Awolowo and Azikiwe did not re-establish AG or NCNC when the military government finally allowed a return to democracy that was planned for 1st October 1979.

So please stop making a foolish argument on that matter by comapring what was reestablished after many years of this current democracy, to the democratic rebirth that was allowed in 1998.

That AD, was highly factionalized from 2003 to 2006, is no news to those who followed politics closely then. A party that had about 3 different politicians claiming to be party national chairman to the benefit of Obasanjo's PDP. Yet, Tinubu chose to start again from zero with his own faction in a new party.

Tinubu did not dump the party to join the party in government or to join another opposition party. Instead, his own faction of AD merged with other politicians from different parties and formed a new party as foundational members as opposed to political prostitutes or ticket hunters looking for ready food in an already established party.

Then after changing name from AC to ACN, that same party went into a bigger alliance to form APC.

We all know the political success achieved by APC and Tinubu in sacking the incumbent PDP government and also producing 2 Presidents from the party, so no need to delve further.

You can choose to continue deceiving yourself that your beloved political prostitutes and ticket hunters who do not have the patience and dedication of Bola Tinibu, can achieve from the scratch the success that Tinubu achieved by building from ground zero and waiting for his turn.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by AcuraZDX: 4:03am On Jul 18, 2024
Throwback:
Did SDP exist when Nigeria was to return to democracy with the death of Gen Sani Abacha?
Is it only SDP that I mentioned?

Why are you crying?
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by AcuraZDX: 4:03am On Jul 18, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
In clear context was the SDP party alive and active in the 1998-1999 elections?
Is it only SDP that I mentioned?
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by AcuraZDX: 4:05am On Jul 18, 2024
success1smyn:
Tinubu never dump any political party.

SDP stopped existing after the June 12 election that was annulled in 1993. AD was formed in 1998 towards return of democracy in 1999 and Tinubu was a founding member - one of the leaders of the party.
After 2003 election, his part split into 2 factions and his faction went to form another party - AC which later became ACN to reflect national acceptance (one of the reasons for the factionalism in AD). And ACN merged with other political parties to form a mega party to tackle PDP. So when did Tinubu dump any party?
All these ones you're giving are excuses because it is Tinubu.

LP just as AD had issues is also having issues now. So what's your point please?
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by AcuraZDX: 4:05am On Jul 18, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
In clear context was the SDP party alive and active in the 1998-1999 elections?
Excuses.

AD nko?
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by Throwback: 4:06am On Jul 18, 2024
AcuraZDX:
Is it only SDP that I mentioned?

Why are you crying?
So why lie if you already knew the SDP you included did not exist in 1998?

I know you were just ashamed that Tinubu is not a ticket hunter or political prostitute like Obi and Atiku.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by AcuraZDX: 4:06am On Jul 18, 2024
Exclusive101:
This is coming from a clown that support Peter Obi who moved from APGA to PDP n now labour. THE AXE YOU USE IN JUDGING OTHERS IF USED ON YOU I BET YOU WILL BE DEAD 100 TIMES OVER.

On what basis do you have to mention Tinubu if not that of stupidity / foolishness.
Tinubu 4 political parties. Obi 3.

Use your sense if you have any
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by PortHarcourtcit(m): 4:06am On Jul 18, 2024
Unperturbedpota this is not a good news for the AGULU man, very soon OBI will be lonely at the bottom... What is happening to him... I wish Nigeria well... One love...
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by AcuraZDX: 4:06am On Jul 18, 2024
Globad:
So says a clown with exaggerated self importance
Thank you.
Re: Balami Dumps Obi, LP, Returns To APC by IfnobeGod20(m): 4:07am On Jul 18, 2024
Throwback:
Point of correct, it was APP that later changed name to ANPP, just as AC changed bame to ACN.

The military government of Abdulsalami Abubakar was allowing formation of new parties and not a revival of old parties that were linked to the June 12 crises. So it was not Tinubu's place or any of the party chairman of thise old partues, like Tony Anenih, to re-establish any of SDP or NRC.

Jusf as Awolowo and Azikiwe did not re-establish AG or NCNC when the military government finally allowed a return to democracy that was planned for 1st October 1979.

So please stop making a foolish argument on that matter by comapring what was reestablished after many years of this current democracy, to the democratic rebirth that was allowed in 1998.

That AD, was highly factionalized from 2003 to 2006, is no news to those who followed politics closely then. A party that had about 3 different politicians claiming to be party national chairman to the benefit of Obasanjo's PDP. Yet, Tinubu chose to start again from zero with his own faction in a new party.

Tinubu did not dump the party to join the party in government or to join another opposition party. Instead, his own faction of AD merged with other politicians from different parties and formed a new party as foundational members as opposed to political prostitutes or ticket hunters looking for ready food in an already established party.

Then after changing name from AC to ACN, that same party went into a bigger alliance to form APC.

We all know the political success achieved by APC and Tinubu in sacking the incumbent PDP government and also producing 2 Presidents from the party, so no need to delve further.

You can choose to continue deceiving yourself that your beloved political prostitutes and ticket hunters who do not have the patience and dedication of Bola Tinibu, can achieve from the scratch the success that Tinubu achieved by building from ground zero and waiting for his turn.
I have screened shot the political parties in Nigeria as at 1999 here for you to clear your doubt.
One thing about some of you that are. Tinubu's supporters is, you always want everyone to see Tinubu as a messiah and a person that is infallible. You claimed AD was factionalised that was why Tinubu left them and that was why I asked why didn't Tinubu stayed and correct the abnormalities in AD instead of running away, because in Nigeria I don't see any perfect political party, every political party have one issue or the other. Remember when Tinubu left the party in 2006, the party still fielded candidates for election. The party didn't die or scrapped and still in existence till date.
The bottom line is, Tinubu left a party still in existence and everyone knows why he left the party. Any how you wish to colour it, Tinubu defected to a new party. I can still remember that late Odumakin always say Tinubu betrayed Afenifere and they will never forgive him, just because he left their party, AD.

Now, if I have to go by your own ideology, Peter Obi will also be exonerated because as at the time he left APGA the party were already factionalised because two persons were claiming chairmanship post in the court. Same can also be said of PDP in 2022.
Now, shall we go by that your ideology?

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