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Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by DMerciful(m): 7:48am On Jul 18, 2024
You have no point to counter this hard truth grin
NOETHNICITY:
Shut up
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 7:49am On Jul 18, 2024
malali:
Tinubu's Governement wants to sell Crude Oil That will be exported long after he is out of power.

Thats why NNPC is collecting loans backed by Crude oil.

Example, they borrow 2.5 billion dollars in 2024. They will repay back after in 10 years (2034) with 7.5 billion dollars worth of crude oil at that particular time.

If the crude oil sales now is not enough for funding the budget. How will the Oil sales in 2034 be enough, when we are going to be using it to repay debt collected 10 years ago by Tinubu's administration ?

This administration is going to rape the future of Nigerian economy.


Its high time Tinubu becomes more transparent with the Oil and gas sector. Come out and tell us the numbers, how many barrels, price sold,accrued revenue, he is so quick to publish how much the governors are getting but never publish how much he gets for Nigeria on a federal level.
And the loan won't be properly utilised, it would still be looted

Or selectively utilised in the region of the president to the extent of excluding the region where the crude oil is gotten from
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by kayperry: 7:49am On Jul 18, 2024
004gist:
If it's onyema of airpeace that own dangote refinary we would be expectant and be shocked with surprises from him.
The guy is passionate n understand Nigeriand sufferings
But u see dangote... embarassed don't expect shishi from him just like he did with cement
its becos of comments like these that is why dangote his speaking out loud and sharing so much update because Nigerians would he is the problem whereas the Main saboteurs are behind the scene enjoying govt shades
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by topatee: 7:53am On Jul 18, 2024
See irony of life, now DIL is crying louder than megaphone, even though am against the extra charges by NNPC, but when Dangote Cement suddenly escalate the price of cement last year for almost 500% they were smiling to the bank at expense of average Nigerians. Iam sorry for the corrupt and inefficient system.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by Exclusive101: 7:56am On Jul 18, 2024
That is to say other did not collect loan from previous administration into Tinubu administration ba ?!

So crude oil wasn't sold from previous administration long into Tinubu administration, Do you know Tinubu is still repaying a loan for crude arrangements by Buhari till this hour a year into his own administration so why do you Ihbo like making noise at every senseless opportunity.


malali:
Tinubu's Governement wants to sell Crude Oil That will be exported long after he is out of power.

Thats why NNPC is collecting loans backed by Crude oil.

Example, they borrow 2.5 billion dollars in 2024. They will repay back after in 10 years (2034) with 7.5 billion dollars worth of crude oil at that particular time.

If the crude oil sales now is not enough for funding the budget. How will the Oil sales in 2034 be enough, when we are going to be using it to repay debt collected 10 years ago by Tinubu's administration ?

This administration is going to rape the future of Nigerian economy.


Its high time Tinubu becomes more transparent with the Oil and gas sector. Come out and tell us the numbers, how many barrels, price sold,accrued revenue, he is so quick to publish how much the governors are getting but never publish how much he gets for Nigeria on a federal level.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by kayperry: 7:57am On Jul 18, 2024
DMerciful:
Sometimes its good to remind people that the rain does not fall on one man's roof alone. What goes around, comes around.
Shutup jare ! remind people abi you are trying to derail the thread into tribalism ...

if what goes around comes around, how does that bypass you ... we are not all visiting the same filling station, buying from the same market, is your own economic different frm tinubu economic

How God take catch us wey you escape
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by Exclusive101: 7:59am On Jul 18, 2024
Rest this Igbo clown tell Onyeame to build refinery now and give Nigerians duel free

What happened to Orient Petroleum Refinery Peter Peter Obi looted Anambra to death to build. ₦4 billion gone without producing pure water talk less of fuel.


004gist:
If it's onyema of airpeace that own dangote refinary we would be expectant and be shocked with surprises from him.
The guy is passionate n understand Nigeriand sufferings
But u see dangote... embarassed don't expect shishi from him just like he did with cement
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by malali: 8:00am On Jul 18, 2024
Exclusive101:
That is to say other did not collect loan from previous administration into Tinubu administration ba ?!

So crude oil wasn't sold from previous administration long into Tinubu administration, Do you know Tinubu is still repaying a loan for crude arrangements by Buhari till this hour a year into his own administration so why do you Ihbo like making noise at every senseless opportunity.
Slave, I am not "ihbo", Tinubu is utterly clueless, his policies are out of tune with reality, his implementation is ill-timed. He has been lying to Nigerian that he can fly a big plane,(after flying a kite in Lagos) all he needs is adequate runway. Nigerians have provided him with the runway, now he wants to crash the plane(Nigeria). This man has no clue what he is doing.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by DMerciful(m): 8:02am On Jul 18, 2024
My point is lets create a system thats fair to all.
kayperry:
Shutup jare ! remind people abi you are trying to derail the thread into tribalism ...

if what goes around comes around, how does that bypass you ... we are not all visiting the same filling station, buying from the same market, is your own economic different frm tinubu economic

How God take catch us wey you escape
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by blowjohn(m): 8:03am On Jul 18, 2024
bet9ja:
Shouldn't there be a law in place for each regime not to sell oil in advance above there tenure in office.
Who will make the law? grin grin cheesy
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by kayperry: 8:04am On Jul 18, 2024
DMerciful:
My point is lets create a system thats fair to all.
I am sure there are threads for that and you can creat one if you are being objective
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by JuanDeDios: 8:04am On Jul 18, 2024
Islie:
“These international trading arms are non-value adding middlemen who sit abroad and earn margin from crude being produced and consumed in Nigeria. They are not bound by Nigerian laws and do not pay tax in Nigeria on the unjustifiable margin they earn.

“The trading arm of one of the IOCs refused to sell to us directly and asked us to find a middleman who would buy from them and then sell to us at a margin. We dialogued with them for 9 months and in the end, we had to escalate to NUPRC who helped resolve the situation,” Edwin stated.
https://dailytrust.com/iocs-selling-crude-at-4-per-barrel-above-market-price-dangote/
Wahala dey.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by musicwriter(m): 8:04am On Jul 18, 2024
Yet, when I wrote in the other thread about how international oil cartels are frustrating the Dangote refinery, one of the biggest idiots on this forum responded in opposition.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by gotnel: 8:05am On Jul 18, 2024
I believe we can all see the international gang up against Nigeria and Nigerians. Nigeria government is a big collaborator in this gang up.
How is it possible for a crude oil produce in Nigeria soil be subjected to the dictate of the foreign company and their foreign base agencies before it can be refined in Nigeria for Nigerians consumption?
God help us
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by SmartPolician: 8:10am On Jul 18, 2024
gigabyte13:
This regulatory Bodies across board are very very useless....
All of them are compromised entities.
Scrap them all.
Tell me one that is functional, except they are called out, function for some few days or weeks and go back to their old ways.
How does Dangote expect to get crude oil from IOCs when the FG has used it to borrow money from AfreximBank in advance?

The only thing that can save Dangote is for Nigeria to ramp up its production capacity so the country will give AfreximBank its share and have enough for local refineries.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by Hammylawali: 8:14am On Jul 18, 2024
Standing5:
You said nothing sensible. Just because it has a name doesnt make it right. What is NNPC doing to deserve 5 usd per barrel. That's what is making NNPCL political and being headed by one dictatorial guy for so many years now. Until he is picked out and someone from outside his clique takes over, we wont know what is going on.
Do you want to curse or you want to learn?.. I just told you it’s a general thing. It’s done overseas too (in oil producing countries). What NNPCL does to charge is not my business, I only said the practice is done everywhere. You need to learn how to respond without insulting people.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by ElSudani: 8:19am On Jul 18, 2024
RandomFellow:
Wow! My neighbor produced yams from her farm, a very bountiful harvest. She's selling her yams. It's not cheap. I want to buy the yams at market rate from her. She refuses to sell to me, but insists I look for a shop owner in the market, let that shop owner come and buy from her, then sell to me.

No... The shop owner is not selling to me at the price he bought; he's selling to me at a premium, in addition to the market value I should have paid if I bought directly from my neighbor. This premium, has nothing to do with Nigeria law or government. No value added, no tax paid, no CSR, nothing!!! Just earn free money from me!!!

Oh... That shop owner turns out to be my neighbor's younger brother. The shop even belongs to my neighbor.


Again, I say WOW!!!
Something like that. Too many loopholes, one of the reasons Nigeria is regarded as highly corrupt. It is not just about politicians pocketing public funds.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by 10thTenthMan: 8:23am On Jul 18, 2024
RandomFellow:
Wow! My neighbor produced yams from her farm, a very bountiful harvest. She's selling her yams. It's not cheap. I want to buy the yams at market rate from her. She refuses to sell to me, but insists I look for a shop owner in the market, let that shop owner come and buy from her, then sell to me.

No... The shop owner is not selling to me at the price he bought; he's selling to me at a premium, in addition to the market value I should have paid if I bought directly from my neighbor. This premium, has nothing to do with Nigeria law or government. No value added, no tax paid, no CSR, nothing!!! Just earn free money from me!!!

Oh... That shop owner turns out to be my neighbor's younger brother. The shop even belongs to my neighbor.


Again, I say WOW!!!
Haha..

You will be a great teacher of Commerce, Trade, Investment and Economics. These analogies were how my lecturer/professor in the University taught us the principles of economics. Till date I still intentionally break topics like these down this way. Especially, in explaining the models, cash flow, transactions/dealings and their inherent jargons and complicated economic relationships.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by Image123(m): 8:23am On Jul 18, 2024
Dangote's whining don dey plenty. i have always maintained that Dangote can't sell cheaper than imported. He'll only help with not having to lose forex. The game is on. Other refineries better step up and stop looking to Dangote as saviour. He's a business man not Nigeria's sugar daddy.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by 004gist: 8:24am On Jul 18, 2024
Exclusive101:
Rest this Igbo clown tell Onyeame to build refinery now and give Nigerians duel free

What happened to Orient Petroleum Refinery Peter Peter Obi looted Anambra to death to build. ₦4 billion gone without producing pure water talk less of fuel.
Orient Petroleum Resources operates two oil block which are in disputed area with Kogi state.

I think the matter is still in court.

Anyway, ORP is a publicly quoted company (PLC). This information is for the ignorant f00ls who are already mentioning Peter Obi and Igbo here.

I am sure they don't know what a PLC is
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by MichaelSokoto(m): 8:28am On Jul 18, 2024
RandomFellow:
Wow! My neighbor produced yams from her farm, a very bountiful harvest. She's selling her yams. It's not cheap. I want to buy the yams at market rate from her. She refuses to sell to me, but insists I look for a shop owner in the market, let that shop owner come and buy from her, then sell to me.

No... The shop owner is not selling to me at the price he bought; he's selling to me at a premium, in addition to the market value I should have paid if I bought directly from my neighbor. This premium, has nothing to do with Nigeria law or government. No value added, no tax paid, no CSR, nothing!!! Just earn free money from me!!!

Oh... That shop owner turns out to be my neighbor's younger brother. The shop even belongs to my neighbor.


Again, I say WOW!!!
u dey yan parable!

is Nigeria still alive under emilokan or it is completely yamutu under him ni?

Give str8 ansas pls!
cool
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by ElSudani: 8:29am On Jul 18, 2024
Image123:
Dangote's whining don dey plenty. i have always maintained that Dangote can't sell cheaper than imported. He'll only help with not having to lose forex. The game is on. Other refineries better step up and stop looking to Dangote as saviour. He's a business man not Nigeria's sugar daddy.
Companies like Dangote are protected in other countries. You should check the special status accorded Companies like Hyundai and Daewoo in South Korea.
Little problems like this here and there add up to making Nigeria unsuitable for investors.
It is a shame that a Nigerian refinery should have to go to Europe to buy Nigerian crude from a third party.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by myrates: 8:31am On Jul 18, 2024
adioolayi:
"The NUPRC Chief Executive was probably misquoted by some people hence his statement that IOCs did not refuse to sell to us. To set the records straight, we would like to recap the facts that aside from Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation Limited (NNPCL), to date, we have only purchased crude directly from one other local producer (Sapetro). All other producers refer us to their international trading arms.

“These international trading arms are non-value adding middlemen who sit abroad and earn margin from crude being produced and consumed in Nigeria. They are not bound by Nigerian laws and do not pay tax in Nigeria on the unjustifiable margin they earn."


These are the key bottlenecks a serious government should focus on resolving.

You keep talking about ease of doing business and neglect the fundamentals.
Those local companies that are doing all these underhand deals by refering to their principal partners abroad should be heavily sanctioned by now...if local markets is not your first priority, then leave our country!!!
Simple
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by Image123(m): 8:31am On Jul 18, 2024
ElSudani:
Companies like Dangote are protected in other countries. You should check the special status accorded Companies like Hyundai and Daewoo in South Korea.
Dangote is over protected in Nigeria, that's not news. He's always had this status of a front bagman for the government. He doesn't have my sympathy but my logic.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by ElSudani: 8:34am On Jul 18, 2024
Image123:
Dangote is over protected in Nigeria, that's not news. He's always had this status of a front bagman for the government. He doesn't have my sympathy but my logic.
Over protected in what way? The issue at hand is not even about Dangote alone. I wonder if other refineries also have to go to Europe to buy Nigerian crude from third parties. Pure madness.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by Exclusive101: 8:34am On Jul 18, 2024
Rest with your foolish lies.
Why won't you be thinking since it involve you Igbo. Over 12 years refinery de litigation after commissioning which millennium with it start production.

Orient Petroleum Refinery is PLC
But Dangote refinery is MLC ba according to your Igbo head.

It is PLC but your Agulu criminal Peter Obi can sink over ₦4 billion into it with nothing to show after 14 years it was commissioned yet your tribesmen will be the ones making the loudest noise over delay from Dangote Refinery which was commission less than 2 years ago.



004gist:
Orient Petroleum Resources operates two oil block which are in disputed area with Kogi state.

I think the matter is still in court.

Anyway, ORP is a publicly quoted company (PLC). This information is for the ignorant f00ls who are already mentioning Peter Obi and Igbo here.

I am sure they don't know what a PLC is
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by Ttalk: 8:35am On Jul 18, 2024
adioolayi:
"The NUPRC Chief Executive was probably misquoted by some people hence his statement that IOCs did not refuse to sell to us. To set the records straight, we would like to recap the facts that aside from Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation Limited (NNPCL), to date, we have only purchased crude directly from one other local producer (Sapetro). All other producers refer us to their international trading arms.

“These international trading arms are non-value adding middlemen who sit abroad and earn margin from crude being produced and consumed in Nigeria. They are not bound by Nigerian laws and do not pay tax in Nigeria on the unjustifiable margin they earn."


These are the key bottlenecks a serious government should focus on resolving.

You keep talking about ease of doing business and neglect the fundamentals.
Those local companies that are doing all these underhand deals by referring to their principal partners abroad should be heavily sanctioned by now...if local markets are not your first priority, then leave our country!!!
What is the usefulness of PIA that cost Nigeria over 12 years to pass? Now that the PIA is in place, operators are not playing by the rules and the regulators are handicapped and can't weird the big stick. What's wrong with this country? Why does the government condone laxity and negligence by its officials?

This government must include high discipline in its reforms, it's not enough to sack ministers on account of misappropriation, but searchlight must be pointed at those sources of revenue, we can't be molested by our criminal politicians and still be bleeped by foreign investors, this regime must put an end to these fraud
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by nairamaniac: 8:54am On Jul 18, 2024
bet9ja:
Shouldn't there be a law in place for each regime not to sell oil in advance above there tenure in office.
Not everything should be guilded by Law alone, but all things should also be guilded by conscience.
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by Sirianese: 8:58am On Jul 18, 2024
What of himself, selling cement to Nigerians at astronomical premiums for decades...
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by Benmsu: 9:01am On Jul 18, 2024
Dangote if you no fit compete just pack up. Every day one excuse or complain.
Na because you start this refinery thing BAT hurry go remove subsidy now you cannot deliver and we dey suffer
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by 004gist: 9:22am On Jul 18, 2024
Exclusive101:
Rest with your foolish lies.
Why won't you be thinking since it involve you Igbo. Over 12 years refinery de litigation after commissioning which millennium with it start production.

Orient Petroleum Refinery is PLC
But Dangote refinery is MLC ba according to your Igbo head.

It is PLC but your Agulu criminal Peter Obi can sink over ₦4 billion into it with nothing to show after 14 years it was commissioned yet your tribesmen will be the ones making the loudest noise over delay from Dangote Refinery which was commission less than 2 years ago.
Foolish boy... When did obi start building refinary ewu Gambia
Re: IOCs Selling Crude At $4 Per Barrel Above Market Price — Dangote by MEGAWATCH: 9:35am On Jul 18, 2024
DMerciful:
I remember when Air Peace boss was lamenting, agbados said if he cannot compete, he should shut up.

Now let's see what they'll say to the lamenting Dangote grin
Leave those useless idiots who started loving Nigeria from 2015 when APC took over.

Very soon we will know the extent of their love for Nigeria.

Nonsense fools.
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