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AntiChristian:
Jesus says to believe in the one who sent him
Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. John 5:24

Paul says grace...
so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:21

Paul loses!
You must believe in God who sent Jesus to be saved!

AntiChristian:
Jesus says to believe in the one who sent him
Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. John 5:24

Paul says grace...
so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:21

Paul loses!
You must believe in God who sent Jesus to be saved!

Lawag3:
Do you believe Jesus is God's son. Jesus said so Even God said so.

Anyway explain this verse what do you think Paul is saying here read it first
Romans 5:15-21 (KJV) But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Then what is grace first of all.

Antiislaam:
Aburo you've come again abi? Ewo ni koye e bayii.. Maje ki isilamu destroy your life kpatakpata

AntiChristian:
I know grace is not the same thing as what Jesus said above!

AntiChristian:
Abeg go sit down somewhere!

AntiChristian:
Jesus says to believe in the one who sent him
Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. John 5:24

Paul says grace...
so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:21

Paul loses!
You must believe in God who sent Jesus to be saved!

Steep:
If you believe God then you will accept Jesus as your Lord and saviour otherwise you don't believe in God.
Jesus preached salvation by grace same with Paul, no difference.

Lawag3:
What is grace for a person that love asking questions you don't like answering them.

Answer that and the other questions I ask.

And reply to my other mention

AntiChristian:
So i should just believe in the statement you typed as against what Jesus allegedly said "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. John 5:24?

The statement is clear!
It is not by grace!

Steep:
You are not making sense. According to the text salvation comes through faith in the father, and again the only way to believe in the father is to believe in the Son he sent.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.
Believing in Jesus is the same as believing in the father.

AntiChristian:
So it's not grace right?
Paul lied!
Thank you!

Steep:
abdool! Jesus is literally believing in him is the same as believing in the father that is how one is saved.

Jesus said he and the father are one.

Luke 10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Not like your confused Mohammad/ allah. Mohammad the paedophilic criminal.

AntiChristian:
Jesus says to believe in the one who sent him
Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. John 5:24

Paul says grace...
so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:21

Paul loses!
You must believe in God who sent Jesus to be saved!

AntiChristian:
Where does Paul's grace come in?
Are you still saying Paul lied?

Steep:
are as dumb as your prophet?
Do you even know what grace means?

I literally just showed you that to believe in Jesus is to believe in the God that sent Jesus.

Steep:
are as dumb as your prophet?
Do you even know what grace means?

I literally just showed you that to believe in Jesus is to believe in the God that sent Jesus.

Ohyoudidnt:
Pardon my inquiry please.

Does the belief that God sent Jesus imply God did not send other prophets and only sent Jesus?

AntiChristian:
How is these related to Jesus Vs Paul 1 - How To Qualify For Eternal Life!?

Your IQ still hasn't improved!

The thread is about Jesus and Paul's way to qualify for eternal life!

If you don't understand the thread then blame your teachers or the Holy Spirit you claim you possess!

Steep:
abdools are as dumb as Allah and his criminal prophet.
Keep running.

The Biblical Jesus too abused people! So we no dey surprised!
Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

Ohyoudidnt:
Pardon my inquiry please.

Does the belief that God sent Jesus imply God did not send other prophets and only sent Jesus?

Steep:
Even the stupid Koran called Jesus the messiah meaning he is more than a prophet.
God sent prophets before Christmas and all the prophet sent were jews.

AntiChristian:
Allah relates Jesus as calling himself the same Abdool you are using to abuse us here now!

Qur'an 19:30!

Steep:
Even the stupid Koran called Jesus the messiah meaning he is more than a prophet.
God sent prophets before Christ and all the prophet sent were jews.

AntiChristian:
Jesus says to believe in the one who sent him

Paul says grace...
so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:21

Paul loses!
You must believe in God who sent Jesus to be saved..

Ohyoudidnt:
Thanks for acknowledging that God sent other prophets and Jesus is not the sole prophet sent.

Were Balaam and Job Jew?

Steep:
Jesus is more than a prophet.
Balaam was an exception.

AntiChristian:
Jesus is a messenger and yes a messenger is more than a Prophet!

Steep:
The Koran calls Jesus "The messiah" which is more than a prophet even though allah and Mohammad don't know the meaning of messiah, Mohammad just copied it and paste in the Koran.

AntiChristian:
Yes, the Qur'an calls Jesus the Messiah who is the slave of Allah!

Steep:
The rubbish Qur'an calls everyone slave. Mohammad wished to have everyone as his slave, that is why he kept writing slave all over Quran like an imbe-cile.
MohamMAD didn't know the meaning of messiah that is why he didn't write it in the quran.

1. Paul allegedly said in Romans 6:16:
Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?

This means if we obey God then we are God's slaves!

2. Paul continues later in Romans 6:22:
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

Here we see that those who have been set free from sins become slaves of God!

3. Luke also said in Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.

Here we see Jesus relegated to being a servant of God by Luke.

(Many Bible translations including NKJV used "Servant Jesus" in the above verse but KJV, Catholic and Aramaic Bible translation used "son Jesus". Amplified Bible decided to used "Servant and son Jesus" showing amplification of course. Young's Literal translation used "His Child Jesus".)

Allah says in the Qur'an that Jesus called himself a slave of Allah.
"He ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;"
Qur'an 19:30

AntiChristian:
Messiah is Jesus's title in the Qur'an! It is there. Go and cure your ignorance and arrogance!

Ignorance upon arrogance!


Who is imbecilic now apart from the ignorant one?