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Steep:
messiah title that mohamMAD copied from the bible?
You skipped the part that said Jesus is the Son of God oh I forgot you Muslims said it is corrupt meanwhile quran ask you to confirm from the same corrupted book , can't you see mohamMAD is a mad man?

AntiChristian:
Jesus's family members called him mad in Mark!

Steep:
They were speaking out of ignorance.
But in Mohammad's case he actually demonstrated signs of madness.

Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri:

I heard that the people asked the Prophet of Allah (ﷺ): Water is brought for you from the well of Buda'ah. It is a well in which dead dogs, menstrual clothes and excrement of people are thrown. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) replied: Verily water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Abu Dawud said I heard Qutaibah b. Sa'id say: I asked the person in charge of the well of Bud'ah about the depth of the well. He replied: At most the water reaches pubes. Then I asked: Where does it reach when its level goes down ? He replied: Below the private part of the body.

Abu Dawud said: I measured the breadth of the well of Buda'ah with my sheet which I stretched over it. I them measured it with the hand. It measured six cubits in breadth. I then asked the man who opened the door of garden for me and admitted me to it: Has the condition of this well changed from what it had originally been in the past ? He replied: No. I saw the color of water in this well had changed.

حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ أَبِي شُعَيْبٍ، وَعَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ بْنُ يَحْيَى الْحَرَّانِيَّانِ، قَالاَ حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ سَلَمَةَ، عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ إِسْحَاقَ، عَنْ سَلِيطِ بْنِ أَيُّوبَ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ رَافِعٍ الأَنْصَارِيِّ، ثُمَّ الْعَدَوِيِّ عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَهُوَ يُقَالُ لَهُ إِنَّهُ يُسْتَقَى لَكَ مِنْ بِئْرِ بُضَاعَةَ وَهِيَ بِئْرٌ يُلْقَى فِيهَا لُحُومُ الْكِلاَبِ وَالْمَحَايِضُ وَعَذِرُ النَّاسِ ‏.‏ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ إِنَّ الْمَاءَ طَهُورٌ لاَ يُنَجِّسُهُ شَىْءٌ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَبُو دَاوُدَ وَسَمِعْتُ قُتَيْبَةَ بْنَ سَعِيدٍ قَالَ سَأَلْتُ قَيِّمَ بِئْرِ بُضَاعَةَ عَنْ عُمْقِهَا قَالَ أَكْثَرُ مَا يَكُونُ فِيهَا الْمَاءُ إِلَى الْعَانَةِ ‏.‏ قُلْتُ فَإِذَا نَقَصَ قَالَ دُونَ الْعَوْرَةِ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَبُو دَاوُدَ وَقَدَّرْتُ أَنَا بِئْرَ بُضَاعَةَ بِرِدَائِي مَدَدْتُهُ عَلَيْهَا ثُمَّ ذَرَعْتُهُ فَإِذَا عَرْضُهَا سِتَّةُ أَذْرُعٍ وَسَأَلْتُ الَّذِي فَتَحَ لِي بَابَ الْبُسْتَانِ فَأَدْخَلَنِي إِلَيْهِ هَلْ غُيِّرَ بِنَاؤُهَا عَمَّا كَانَتْ عَلَيْهِ قَالَ لاَ ‏.‏ وَرَأَيْتُ فِيهَا مَاءً مُتَغَيِّرَ اللَّوْنِ ‏.‏
Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) صحيح (الألباني) حكم

AntiChristian:
So if your mum, father and brothers calls you out of your mind like in Mark they must be speaking our of ignorance too?

Steep:
ignorance simply means lack of knowledge. Mohammad was a certified madman, who hallucinate and was confirmed to be bewitched.

AntiChristian:
For Jesus to be called mad by his family sure says something about his state of mind too don't you think?

If your mum and brothers call you mad then you really need to check into the nearest facility at Yaba left!

Steep:
First the verse did not say his mother and brothers but probably relatives. Jesus family didn't understand him initially but they believed on him after his resurrection showing.

AntiChristian:
Stop the lies!

Mark 3:21 was where they accused Jesus of being out of his mind!

Mark 3:31 was where Jesus's mother and brothers came to call him!

Steep:
MohamMAD was a mad man were is the lie.
How can a normal human be bathing in the water of dead dogs, he even recommended Carmel urine for you Muslims.

A hadith in Book 4 (Ablution) of al-Bukhari's collection narrated by Anas ibn Malik was used to promote the consumption of Arabian camel urine as a medicine. The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so Muhammad ordered them to follow his shepherd and drink his camel's milk and urine (as a medicine).

Ohyoudidnt:
Pardon my inquiry please.

Does the belief that God sent Jesus imply God did not send other prophets and only sent Jesus?

AntiChristian:
Stop the lies!

Mark 3:21 was where they accused Jesus of being out of his mind!

Mark 3:31 was where Jesus's mother and brothers came to call him!

AntiChristian:
Jesus says to believe in the one who sent him
Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. John 5:24

Paul says grace...
so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:21

Paul loses!
You must believe in God who sent Jesus to be saved!

SIRTee15:
U attain eternal life by believing in the blood of Jesus.

John 6

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

I'm beginning to think Paul knew Jesus and heard from him because their teaching is just too similar.

SIRTee15:
Did they eventually believe in him ?
People don't follow a mad man?
They were wrong!!!

SIRTee15:
The message Jesus preached is different from previous prophets.
U have to believe in the message of Jesus to attain eternal life.

John 6
53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

Ohyoudidnt:
The question is to clarify if believing in other prophets sent by God removes the belief in God.

The message of Jesus by your submission is in what sense please? Did he say there's another God?

When Jesus spoke to those who were already familiar with Jewish law and prophecy, did he not focus on fulfilling the law? Did he not say no laws of God will be abolished or neglected?

Steep:
Mohammad was not a prophet of God.
Go and check the meaning of to fulfill.
If Jesus has fulfilled the law then ultimately he ended it legally.

Ohyoudidnt:
Your rights to your view are within your rights.

Does fulfilling a law translate to termination of the law?

Jesus emphasizes that until everything is accomplished, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen will disappear from the Law (Matthew 5:18). This suggests that while certain aspects may be fulfilled through Christ’s life and teachings, the foundational principles remain intact.

The one to come after Jesus cannot be the holy spirit as the holy spirit was around before, during after the time of Jesus.

Well as other prophets were rejected before Jesus and he himself included it's not unusual you reject prophet Muhammad pbuh.

Selah

Steep:
It is not my view, it is what the revelation of God reveals, Mohammad is a false prophet.
Jesus fulfilled the law there is nothing remaining. To fulfill also means to accomplish, if there is something remaining then it is not fulfilled. Mohammad just lied and decieved you guys.

AntiChristian:
So Jesus preached cannibalism above? I thought consuming blood is forbidden in the old covenant?

Paul doesn't know Jesus!

AntiChristian:
So Jesus preached cannibalism above? I thought consuming blood is forbidden in the old covenant?

Paul doesn't know Jesus!

AntiChristian:
I didn't say they were right before!
It is what it is.

SIRTee15:
But his teaching agreed with Jesus saying?

Yes or No

SIRTee15:
According to Jesus, how do your attain eternal life?

SIRTee15:
U don't get it. They were wrong because Jesus wasn't mad.

In Muhammed's case, they were right.
Muhammed was afflicted with black magic and use to hallucinate.
A Jewish man cast a spell on him and it worked on him.
Aisha said Muhammed would think he had sex with his wives when he hadn't.
That's psychosis. He was a mad man until it's presumed Allah cured him.

Nobody lied when they said Muhammed was a mad man because he suffered from madness at a point in his life.

Now my question is the revelation given by Muhammed during the period he was under the spell of black magic...can it be trusted.
Muhammed gave revelations during the period he was also hallucinating. How can we be certain those revelations were not as a result of hallucination.

AntiChristian answer the question.

AntiChristian:
How does it agree?

You haven't seen my latest threads about 13 threads. This is just one out of it.

Paul really went south!

SIRTee15:
I went thru all of them.
Majority didn't even make sense, that's why people ignored U
The other one I took u on regarding commandments., U ran away after I exposed your ignorance on the difference btw commandment and punishment.

AntiChristian:
Are you a psychiatrist to know they lied? If your mum and brothers say you are mad then we all will help them tie you to the nearest psychiatric hospital!

AntiChristian:
Assuming it was only outsiders that made the claim we can say they may be mischievous! But Mary is Holy according to the Bible. If Mary was sinful Jesus would inherit sins from her. I even wonder how Mary didn't inherit sins from Adam and pass it onto Jesus.

So Mary spoke the truth about her son!

AntiChristian:
This is your own version of lies. Affliction by spells is not madness! And then Allah used the incident to teach us how to cure such affliction by Allah! And the verses used to cure the affliction is still used till tomorrow!

AntiChristian:
The revelations would be trusted because it remains a miracle. The revelation is not the bibliography of Jesus nor the sermon of Paul to his churches somewhere!

AntiChristian:
Nothing makes sense when you are dumbstruck! I no get time for your diversions!