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Qasim6:
Here I am thinking you will bring something like an interpolation like the pericope adulterae, or something that will destroy our doctrines like 1John 5:7 (the nonsense there are 3 in heaven....)

All these things you are pointing out do not negate our narrative of how the Qur'an was revealed and preserved.

Keep labouring in vain, no go warm eba chop.

My questions are simple:
1. Didn't you Muslims claim that the Qur'an is perfectly preserved up to the diacritical marks?
2. Which of your several Qur'ans is the copy of the Qur'an of Allah in paradise?
3. We have shown you that the Qur'an of Mohammed is different from the Qur'an of Abubaker and is different from the Qur'an of Uthman: which one is the true Qur'an of them all?
4. How come the Sanaa Quran is different from the standard Qurans in many verses?
5. Why did Muslim scholars tell white lies on the preservation of the Quran?


All these would not have been necessary if Muslims do not keep on saying that
-there is only one qur'an
-the qur'an is perfectly preserved!


At least it is good that you admit that there are differences only that they are small.
LOL!

Here is a discussion with a knowledgeable Muslim on the preservation of the Qur'an.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKVZDZFTFO0?si=yARUXS-bPMqefUmL


It is even too easy to show differences not due to scribal errors within the Qur'ans by removing the vowels. You will still arrive at different Qur'ans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjgzjNwqGWI?si=lyn3twZG4lzmUCU8


Different Qurans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTfzWLKokFs?si=fSdmnoU8q36tCZL1


Why do Muslims now hate Yasir Qahdi for speaking some truth about the Qur'an?

Muslim scholars lie both to the ignorant Muslims and tell different kind of lies to non Muslims.

TenQ:
Still more differences between the Warsh Quran and the Hafs Quran are coming.

Which one of these two Qurans is the Quran of Allah in Paradise?





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Stop deceiving yourself, even your forefathers knew that Quran is only one...

ahmedio2017:
Stop deceiving yourself, even your forefathers knew that Quran is only one...

This behaviour is called self delusion.

Why don't you ask your Imam perhaps he will tell you the truth.


Here I have presented Evidences: not one, not two, not three but several.

God willing, I will post more tomorrow

You will from this thread conclude that Islamic scholars have told lies all along that the Qur'an was perfectly preserved even up to the diacritical marks

More still coming

TenQ:
You will from this thread conclude that Islamic scholars have told lies all along that the Qur'an was perfectly preserved even up to the diacritical marks

More still coming

Lol

You are only making a fool of yourself, you are not exposing anything.

it is in our source (Hadith) that there are different readings of the Qur'an going straight back to the prophet.


You should drink water and rest!

TenQ:
Quran 2:9

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mumu man where is the difference abeg show
Us 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Only in Islam is a Qur'an which is supposed to be the word of God get abrogated as soon as it was dictated.

What kind of an erroneous error filled God of Islam is this!

Expanse2020:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mumu man where is the difference abeg show
Us 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Islamically speaking, are these two statements the same (check the second half of the Qur'an verse)?

They seek to deceive not except themselves= They deceive not except themselves


The first: they are looking or finding a way with which to deceive themselves
The second: They deceived themselves

In case you still haven't seen it

Hafs: they have already Deceived themselves
Warsh: they are looking for a way to deceive themselves


Are these two the same?

What was Allah really saying out of the two statements?

Qasim6:
Lol

You are only making a fool of yourself, you are not exposing anything.

it is in our source (Hadith) that there are different readings of the Qur'an going straight back to the prophet.


You should drink water and rest!

What is supposed to be according to your prophet is that Allah revealed the Qur'an in 7 DIALECTS not seven Qur'ans?


Is there one Qur'an or seven Qur'ans?


All I am doing is to show you that your Scholars are big fat LIARS!



Which one of these numerous Quran is the Qur'an in the tablet in Heaven?


Just choose to be humble and ask how many other lies you have believed

TenQ:
Islamically speaking, are these two statements the same (check the second half of the Qur'an verse)?

They seek to deceive not except themselves= They deceive not except themselves


The first: they are looking or finding a way with which to deceive themselves
The second: They deceived themselves

In case you still haven't seen it

Hafs: they have already Deceived themselves
Warsh: they are looking for a way to deceive themselves


Are these two the same?

What was Allah really saying out of the two statements?

Go to islamic school for to understand what they wrote don't just assumed because the written calligraphy is different
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 There is nothing different in that statement....

Expanse2020:
Go to islamic school for to understand what they wrote don't just assumed because the written calligraphy is different
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 There is nothing different in that statement....

Only a blind bat will not see the differences between the Warsh Qur'an and the Hafs Qur'an as presented.

What an argument!?
Difference in calligraphy should retain exactly the same meanings and words in sentences isn't it?

Even your modern scholars attest to these differences between the Warsh and the Hafs Qur'an and other Qur'ans in existence.

You desperately want to hold on to falsehood: I understand. How can the religion of Allah be full of holes!?
LOL!

My questions are simple:
1. Didn't you Muslims claim that the Qur'an is perfectly preserved up to the diacritical marks?
2. Which of your several Qur'ans is the copy of the Qur'an of Allah in paradise?
3. We have shown you that the Qur'an of Mohammed is different from the Qur'an of Abubaker and is different from the Qur'an of Uthman: which one is the true Qur'an of them all?
4. How come the Sanaa Quran is different from the standard Qurans in many verses?
5. Why did Muslim scholars tell white lies on the preservation of the Quran?

Qasim6:
Here I am thinking you will bring something like an interpolation like the pericope adulterae, or something that will destroy our doctrines like 1John 5:7 (the nonsense there are 3 in heaven....)

All these things you are pointing out do not negate our narrative of how the Qur'an was revealed and preserved.

Keep labouring in vain, no go warm eba chop.

So Qur'an is no longer word for word dictation of Allah anymore.
Abi Allah dictated twice to Muhammed.
U people go change goalpost tire.
Pericope aldultrae and 1 John 5.7 interpolation.is only found in translation that came from the Latin vulgate eg KJV.
Translation from codex sinaticus don't have it. Also the Peshitta, Coptic, gothic, Armenian and Ethiopian bible- the garima gospel don't have it.
The word of God in the bible hasn't been changed.

ahmedio2017:
Stop deceiving yourself, even your forefathers knew that Quran is only one...

So question is...
someone who memorised the Walsh quran, is he allowed to recite it in the amongst those who memorised the hafs quran.
Will he be corrected multiple times when those pronouns and adjectives don't correlate.

Qasim6:
Lol

You are only making a fool of yourself, you are not exposing anything.

it is in our source (Hadith) that there are different readings of the Qur'an going straight back to the prophet.


You should drink water and rest!

So Qur'an recitation is no longer letter for letter, word for word anymore.

SIRTee15:
So Qur'an recitation is no longer letter for letter, word for word anymore.

Muslim scholars are in the same league with Satan when it comes to fabrication of lies

TenQ:
Only a blind bat will not see the differences between the Warsh Qur'an and the Hafs Qur'an as presented.

What an argument!?
Difference in calligraphy should retain exactly the same meanings and words in sentences isn't it?

Even your modern scholars attest to these differences between the Warsh and the Hafs Qur'an and other Qur'ans in existence.

You desperately want to hold on to falsehood: I understand. How can the religion of Allah be full of holes!?
LOL!

My questions are simple:
1. Didn't you Muslims claim that the Qur'an is perfectly preserved up to the diacritical marks?
2. Which of your several Qur'ans is the copy of the Qur'an of Allah in paradise?
3. We have shown you that the Qur'an of Mohammed is different from the Qur'an of Abubaker and is different from the Qur'an of Uthman: which one is the true Qur'an of them all?
4. How come the Sanaa Quran is different from the standard Qurans in many verses?
5. Why did Muslim scholars tell white lies on the preservation of the Quran?

Stop arguing because they wrote one letter big and another small does that mean a different letter go and learn Arabic and come back to debate with us...
You that can Identify a single letter want to be arguing with those that know it...
Abegii
There different way you can write a letter with more than a thousand way in calligraphy..does that meant it is different. you don't know the meaning of different I will give you an example from your book

Jesus tell his disciples to carry a staff in Mark 6:8, but in Matthew 10:10 and Luke 9:3 he told them not to carry a staff?
That what interpretation mean

Expanse2020:
Stop arguing because they wrote one letter big and another small does that mean a different letter go and learn Arabic and come back to debate with us...
You that can Identify a single letter want to be arguing with those that know it...
Abegii
There different way you can write a letter with more than a thousand way in calligraphy..does that meant it is different. you don't know the meaning of different I will give you an example from your book

Jesus tell his disciples to carry a staff in Mark 6:8, but in Matthew 10:10 and Luke 9:3 he told them not to carry a staff?
That what interpretation mean

You are surely the one who needs to go back to Quranic school to learn Arabic as you seem not to know that where you place your DOTS and the number of DOT changes the Arabic alphabet and thus are important in writings.

I will oblige you with a few examples again so that you can show conclusively that the verses in the Hafs Qur'an and that of the Warsh Qur'an are identical.

Muslims LIES from their fundamental nature like satan. Check, the style of calligraphy of both Warsh and Hafs is the same sir

If your scholars tell blatant lies, must you partake in it?

Still more Differences between the Warsh Quran and the Hafs Quran

A muslim lied a few days ago that these differences are Calligraphic differences; like their father satan, they tell lies as their first nature

More verses showing the differences