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AntiChristian:
I am telling you that Jesus and all his followers and other Prophets and their followers will enter paradise only after Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam! The last Prophet will be the first!

Plus1234:
Foolishly believing a man/ peodophile who never show one evidence of been sent from God.

We believe the prophets of old through signs .Some of the prophets performed obvious signs.

Your peodophile man Na to cram and pour out nonsense, calling it divine revelation. You must be dumb following that scam.No be chochocho , show workings(Signs and wonders).

AntiChristian:
I am telling you that Jesus and all his followers and other Prophets and their followers will enter paradise only after Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam! The last Prophet will be the first!

Ken4Christ:
A self acclaimed Prophet. Who is a witness that God called him?

Every single Prophet in the Bible spoke about Jesus thousands of years before he was born. Who spoke about Mohammed. Anyone can just wake up and call himself a Prophet. Nobody believed him until he used the power of sword. Now the strategy he adopts is brainwashing.

AntiChristian:
Blatant Christian liar! That's because your Bible was conditioned by the church fathers to be centered around Jesus! Jesus in real life never call towards himself but towards the one who sent him.

The companions of the Prophet are the witnesses of his Prophethood!

Angel Gabriel came to teach them Islam with the Prophet!
Don't tell me you're still ignorant of all these?

And stop telling lies that no one believed in him!
His wife, his cousin Ali, Abu-Bakr and many others did believed in him.
How many Muslims emigrated from Mecca to Madinah when they were being persecuted?
And they were welcomed in Madina without any sword!

Blatant Christian liar!

Ken4Christ:
Your Quran authenticates the Bible especially the Old Testament and the Gospel. And even say you should learn more from it.

AntiChristian:
I have to school you the Qur'an mentions Injeel and Torah not Bible!

Injeel and Torah are scriptures not Gospels or Letters according to unknown people!

Stop the lies once again!

AntiChristian:
I have to school you the Qur'an mentions Injeel and Torah not Bible!

Injeel and Torah are scriptures not Gospels or Letters according to unknown people!

Stop the lies once again!

Ken4Christ:
Torah refers to the Old Testament while the injeel is the four gospels of the New Testament.

Plus1234:
The more you try to defend your dirty religion of piss,the more you sound stupid.

sonmvayina:
You really need to learn..

https://www.jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/isaiah-53-a-jewish-perspective/

Before you start pulling absurds article from the Internet..

SIRTee15:
Even the link u brought admit the passage could be about a Messiah who will die for the sins of the people , it only argued it's not Jesus Christ.

Look here I'm an open guy.
If U tell me Isaiah 53 isn't about Jesus, maybe I will listen to U and we can have a debate about it.

But to tell me isaiah 53 isn't about a Messiah who will die for the transgression of the world is being unnecessary obstinate and I will simply ignore U.

sonmvayina:
So where does it says the servant will die and ressurect after 3 days. If it is not there it is not about jesus my friend.
Like I said 8 times prior to chapter 53, Isaiah told you who the servant is...nobody died, the servant days will be prolonged, he will see his offspring. That does not look like jesus now, does it?


Why are you not seeing it..

SIRTee15:
Guy rest, U don't know more than Jewish rabbi who said the same thing for over a thousand years.
The passage is about the Messiah who's coming to die for the sin of the world.

sonmvayina:
The Messiah is not coming to die for sins..

God has already given them a solution to the problem of sin. At it does not involve human sacrifice. Human sacrifice belongs to the realm of Lucifer.

The Messiah is an anointed king, just like David and Solomon. In short the Messiah will come from the line of David through Solomon. So it means whoever the Messiah is, he must have a father and mother....The Jews don't have demi gods as part of their religion. That is a Greek/Roman mythology...

The suffering servant is Israel.

SIRTee15:
Travel to the and of beyond, then Go and argue with ancient jewish rabbi who died holding on to that belief.
Even the link u brought here admitted the verse could be about a messiah dying for the sin of the world.
I think we done here, the truth cannot be changed. u free to embrace it or reject it.

Now as regards Christ dying and resurrecting in 3 days- read hosea 6.1-2, let me open your eyes to another truth.

sonmvayina:
Hosea 6:1&2

1 Come and let us return to the Lord, for He has torn and He shall heal us; He smites, and He will bind us up.
2 He will revive us from the two days, on the third day He will set us up, and we will live before Him.


What should I see?

Bye bye.
Believe whatever you like...

SIRTee15:
Don't run away. Explain the verse.
What do U think. I will like to know your opinion.

sonmvayina:
Is it not self explanatory ?
Like I said before..
God creates peace and evil
He creates both light and darkness
He smites and he saves
Hosea is encouraging them to return to the Lord, two days he will revive them and on the 3rd day they will become a people again and live in his presence...
They will be his people and he will be their God..

So Hosea is saying after God has punished them, he would still save them. The two day means that God anger is not for ever, but his mercy endures forever...

SIRTee15:
What if I show U that ancient rabbinical Jews b4 Christ believed the verse was about someone who died and resurrected on the 3rd day.

They explained the verse as a Man who died and God raised him up on the 3rd day.
They just weren't sure of the identity of the man.

sonmvayina:
Hahaahahhaa
Which part of your ass are you pulling all these bull shit from?

You read it yourself...in context.

SIRTee15:
Are U now afraid of what ancient rabbinical believe about their scriptures.
Are U scared it will destroy your erroneous beliefs?
Modern day Jews have been lying to U.
Wake up.

sonmvayina:
lol

The interpretation of the Tanakh has NEVER changed.
They have passed it on from generation to generation.
Judaism and Christianity are two different religions... Christianity is not derived from the Tanakh. It developed in Egypt as the worship of serapis. No Jesus, all these info where added post Nicea..

sonmvayina:
lol

The interpretation of the Tanakh has NEVER changed.
They have passed it on from generation to generation.
Judaism and Christianity are two different religions... Christianity is not derived from the Tanakh. It developed in Egypt as the worship of serapis. No Jesus, all these info where added post Nicea..

SIRTee15:
If interpretation of the tanakh has never changed, then explain why ancient jewish rabbi believed Isaiah 53 is about a messiah that will die for the sins but modern jews says it's about Israel.
how come we have two different interpretation for same verse in same religion.

sonmvayina:
We have over flogged this matter...
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sonmvayina:
That's Hosea 6 you presented, why not continue reading to verse 6. Maybe you will learn..
Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant.(Israel) Who where suffering because of the sins of other Jewish people. The servant is the people among Gods people who where suffering with the others Jewish people who God was punishing for their sins..this time they where in exile in Babylon..
God commanded Nebuchadnezzar to take all of them to exile and told them that their only chance of survival was following the Babylonians. But the ones that where obeying God's commandments and living a righteous life and the sinful ones was taken off to exile. In this passage Isaiah was assuring the righteous people(servant) that God has seen their suffering and assure them that their salvation was near...shikenah

There is no Jebus, death or resurrection or second coming...

SIRTee15:
oga leave story, u are not a jewish scholar.
if u not scared, allow me to show u what the jewish rabbi in the BC era thought about hosea 6:1-2.

sonmvayina:
Believe what you like
Any body with half a brain will know there is no Jesus there....no gospel writer quoted it...
Continue deluding yourself.
I have pointed you to the write direction it is up to you to follow..

SIRTee15:
Paul referenced it.
I didn't mention Jesus, use your brain
I said Jewish scholars in BC era believed Hosea 6.1-2 is about a man who died and resurrected on the 3rd day.
That's what I want to give U evidence for but U shit scared of the truth.

sonmvayina:
You did not address any of his point..

seunowa:
The guy has made himself a stumbling block for those who are not well established in the knowledge of the cross through which God reconciled humanity to himself by not counting their sins against them.