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Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by phemray(m): 12:44pm On Jul 30, 2024
Ensa777:
The population interms of manpower may have worked before but now the world is moving towards mechanization.
China introduced one child policy to curb theirs because it slowed devt.Tge issue of Almajiri and polygamy via religion is a burden for the country.
Still doesn't take away the fact that Tinubu used them for election malpractice and continues to use them include their leadership
Northerners should imagine what will happen if they stand alone in case Nigeria divided. Their poverty level is to high. I saw a lot while traveling around in the north n It's the religion beliefs that causes most of the problems. reason the South is completely different from the north. One okada guy has 2 wife's and 7 children and was planning to make it 4 wifes then I asked him why, and he said that's what God wanted and he has to obey God.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by 2elliot: 12:50pm On Jul 30, 2024
Mrexcell:
Will the northern elites still encourage this behaviour of giving birth carelessly if nigeria is restructured and there's no more free oil money from the niger delta to share?
Your free oil is not what has been feeding the north. A few northern elites who benefit from our Southern oil and who don't even do anything for the larger northern masses doesn't mean that we have been feeding everyone of them. If not for banditry which is being encouraged by these wicked elites and their globalist luciferian cabals, the north was feeding themselves very well. That's Why things were relatively cheap over there before compared to the south.The north is ever capable to feed themselves, only the will is lacking.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by 2elliot: 12:55pm On Jul 30, 2024
phemray:
Northerners should imagine what will happen if they stand alone in case Nigeria divided. Their poverty level is to high. I saw a lot while traveling around in the north n It's the religion beliefs that causes most of the problems. reason the South is completely different from the north. One okada guy has 2 wife's and 7 children and was planning to make it 4 wifes then I asked him why, and he said that's what God wanted and he has to obey God.
The south is relatively okay not because we have lesser population, but because free oil and tech money flow here. Before now, our forefathers equally had larger families, but because everyone of them was farming and working to contribute, poverty was not pronoused. But as it standa, even the south to don dey hear am. Almajiri culture is gradually cripping in. People don dey beg to eat.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by 2elliot: 1:09pm On Jul 30, 2024
Darkestking:
Theres two critical problems with your statement.

1) A big population is not a problem if its harnessed for farming and manufacturing -

Farming-

When it comes to farming the north has a very large nomadic/pastorolist community who not only don't farm but often have direct conflicts with farmers along traditional grazing routes.

Additionally, farming in Nigeria is typically done on small landholdings and plots which are usually inefficient because you cant deploy machinery or fertilizer or pesticides the way you can on large farms

Also, farming is typically a low foreign exchange earner and usually does not make a region much money

Manufacturing-

Nigeria cant beat Chinese prices in manufacturing and has an overly protectionist economy which makes the import of raw materials too expensive. Why will local markets buy Nigerian products when Chinese products are half the price and better quality?

2) The polygamy of northerners

There's a limited number of women all over the planet. When 1 northern man takes 4 wives, that's 3 other men who don't get a wife. These men are then more prone to crime and violence and become easy targets for recruitment by extremist groups. This is why extremism is more prevalent in places with polygamy. Marrying more than 1 woman is even more problematic than having many kids because it creates a large group of disenfranchised young men who have no hope for marriage and are very likely to become recruits and actors of violence.
My point still stands. The north is not suffering because of population, but leadership. Even that over population is a lie, if we consider your point that a few number of men marry the women who are limited in number; therefore, leaving a larger number of men without partners. That then means that, even if these men with multiply wives give birth to 20 children with their multiple women, the figures will tally if these same women were distributed to the unmarried men and they gave birth to 3 to 5 children as their Southern partners who are largely monogamous birth. We will likely arrive at the same figures, when also we factor into the more infant death rate as compared to the south.
That aside. Population is not the problem. If food is all that is needed to keep us alive and healthy, then that food is very easy to source if we consider the technology available that can do that. It will only become a problem if they are equally dreaming to drum up money to build skyscrappers, and trying explore space, e.g to go to plannet mars. But even that, if the will is there, then it is possible.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by 2elliot: 1:13pm On Jul 30, 2024
Ensa777:
The population interms of manpower may have worked before but now the world is moving towards mechanization.
China introduced one child policy to curb theirs because it slowed devt.Tge issue of Almajiri and polygamy via religion is a burden for the country.
Still doesn't take away the fact that Tinubu used them for election malpractice and continues to use them include their leadership
With mechanised farming, ten people can conveniently feed 1000 people. So, population is not the problem. Toxic capitalism and corperatism is.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by 2elliot: 1:17pm On Jul 30, 2024
Dpharisee:
Until you start harnessing the potentials of the population it remains a huge burden.
The true burden are the leaders. If you sort the leadership issue, the people will naturally reduce their birth rate without anyone telling or forcing them.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by 2elliot: 1:19pm On Jul 30, 2024
RisenObinna:
Can't agree less. It's never about the population but leadership
Yes. It has always been leadership. If you get the leadership right, even the people will naturally have less children without anyone telling or forcing them.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by CSTRR: 1:35pm On Jul 30, 2024
Salewa97:
Fayose should focus on his own backyard before casting stones.

Northerners are resilient and hardworking, raising their children with values that many in the South could learn from.

Instead of blaming Tinubu, let's work together to uplift all regions. The real issue is leadership, not geography.
What values?
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by Dpharisee: 2:15pm On Jul 30, 2024
2elliot:
The true burden are the leaders. If you sort the leadership issue, the people will naturally reduce their birth rate without anyone telling or forcing them.
Increasing birth rate in the face of hunger because of failure of leaders doesn't any sense, it only recycles the poverty rate.
Imagine what will happen to the North if government suspends federal allocation, many states on the South will survive but over here in the North you need to come and see poverty with your eyes
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by Dpharisee: 2:23pm On Jul 30, 2024
2elliot:
Yes. It has always been leadership. If you get the leadership right, even the people will naturally have less children without anyone telling or forcing them.
Stop blaming the leaders for furking without protection even when condoms are distributed free in local govt health centres, yes the leaders should be able to wear them condoms and help their women to constantly open their pussys to receive sperm cells
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by Amumaigwe: 3:25pm On Jul 30, 2024
Chinkoalhaji34:
Fayose really knows how to shift blame.

Northerners dey hustle, no doubt, but we all know the real issue na governance and leadership.

Instead of pointing fingers, make we focus on solutions wey go uplift everybody. [b]Tinubu has his plan[/b]s, and if we all support the right policies, progress go dey for all regions. Let's come together and find a way forward.
In clearest terms, what are Tinubu's plans?
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by nedekid: 3:58pm On Jul 30, 2024
Salewa97:
Fayose should focus on his own backyard before casting stones.

Northerners are resilient and hardworking, raising their children with values that many in the South could learn from.

Instead of blaming Tinubu, let's work together to uplift all regions. The real issue is leadership, not geography.
Huge unproductive population brings down the gdp. It puts pressure on resources. Just imagine if our population were eg 25m, automatically our per capita will be at least 25-$30k unlike the 2-3k it currently is.
A bulk of the the puppies given birth to are in the North and the that is a fact.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by cyberstarr(m): 5:17pm On Jul 30, 2024
But he said the truth.
He said the truth.
He said the truth.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by lildush(m): 5:34pm On Jul 30, 2024
True. But did d northern people remove fuel subsidy?

Did the northern people float the naira?

These two wrong policies is wat landed us in this mess. Tinubu Eno go better for u and your family.. and if anyone is supporting tinubu. Eno go better for you
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by BeigJawnson(m): 6:01pm On Jul 30, 2024
DeOTR:
See dumbness personified! shocked cheesy
Let's even agree it's OK to share money like akara to people.
And let's assume 100million people are above 18 years in Nigeria. 100m x 1m is how much? And how much is our annual budget?
You're talking about sharing 100 trillion naira when our budget is not even up to 30 trillion.
What can you even do with a million naira now talk more of when it'll become as useless as a toilet paper (because that's what giving free money to everyone will do)?

Now I'm very much convinced we're a reflection of the leaders we have.

It's the same thing we did in the 70s during the oil boom, giving people free money, students receiving allowances to get married, when other countries are investing in infrastructures and saving.
God forbid people like you find their way to any position where critical financial decisions are made. You'll make more mess than we can handle. Damn!
I pity those who you called parents that sent you to school, they have just fetched water in to basket all these while. You insulted me and I have to be rude to you as well.

Were you not told in school by your English teacher that when you see this word with two letters "IF" it is used to express opinions...

I sighted an example to show how rich we are in this country, but your lil sense of reasoning took it personal till you got emotional by insulting me. Chai... School is not really a scam. Knowledge in school but wisdom matters... I never said govt should share 1million to citizens. I only said if Nigerian govt can share 1million to each citizens, we will still have more than enough in our treasury. In your response spitting trash. Grow up.

We do budget of trillions, nothing to show for it. Oponu
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by fredwill1357(m):
AcuraZDX:
“The reason why it is difficult for Tinubu to develop Nigeria is because Northerners are giving birth to children they can’t cater for” - Ayodele Fayose on Channels TV

Video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JH5E4C6mDk?si=p1hnGi-dll3F4qNt
It is not just northerners, Nigeria population is increasing by millions every year. Overpopulation is a large part of the problem of Nigeria, childbirth needs to be regulated in Nigeria. Else things will continue to get more difficult as more people struggle for limited resources, jobs, land and food.

For the record, overpopulation is not all about space. Resources and its uses, are a larger factor. No Nigerian should be allowed to have more than 2 or 3 children at this time.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by DeOTR: 7:48pm On Jul 30, 2024
BeigJawnson:
I pity those who you called parents that sent you to school, they have just fetched water in to basket all these while. You insulted me and I have to be rude to you as well.

Were you not told in school by your English teacher that when you see this word with two letters "IF" it is used to express opinions...

I sighted an example to show how rich we are in this country, but your lil sense of reasoning took it personal till you got emotional by insulting me. Chai... School is not really a scam. Knowledge in school but wisdom matters... I never said govt should share 1million to citizens. I only said if Nigerian govt can share 1million to each citizens, we will still have more than enough in our treasury. In your response spitting trash. Grow up.

We do budget of trillions, nothing to show for it. Oponu
You're a big fool. Who in their right senses would even think of what you vomited out?
Let's even assume it's an if. Can the government even afford to send 1m each to everyone?
Maybe your maths teacher didn't teach you well.
It's only an idiot that will even assume a budget of less than 30trillion naira will go round a population of even 100m people if they give everyone 1m each.
Is that your imbecilic maths even right to you?

That's how they'll be shouting bad government up and down. Give them the opportunity to right the wrongs now, they'll do worse than people they have been criticizing.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by mightyhazel: 8:07pm On Jul 30, 2024
Chinkoalhaji34:
Fayose really knows how to shift blame.

Northerners dey hustle, no doubt, but we all know the real issue na governance and leadership.

Instead of pointing fingers, make we focus on solutions wey go uplift everybody. Tinubu has his plans, and if we all support the right policies, progress go dey for all regions. Let's come together and find a way forward.
This is verbatim with your other monikers above siof.. and salewa,trutharena etc
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by kennethesan(m): 8:39pm On Jul 30, 2024
Bros abeg hold your mouth. Don't hide abroad and cause trouble for us back home with your lousy mouth.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by BeigJawnson(m): 8:47pm On Jul 30, 2024
DeOTR:
You're a big fool. Who in their right senses would even think of what you vomited out?
Let's even assume it's an if. Can the government even afford to send 1m each to everyone?
Maybe your maths teacher didn't teach you well.
It's only an idiot that will even assume a budget of less than 30trillion naira will go round a population of even 100m people if they give everyone 1m each.
Is that your imbecilic maths even right to you?

That's how they'll be shouting bad government up and down. Give them the opportunity to right the wrongs now, they'll do worse than people they have been criticizing.
Imagine... What an effrontery. 100million... Yes so are you saying Nigeria's is not having enough?

You much be silly and absent minded...

I never said Nigerian govt should give her citizens money. I only sighted an example of how rich we are...

slowpoke ... Mind you, Dubai also depends on oil and look at where they are.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by hasamin: 9:01pm On Jul 30, 2024
Remember, the Northerners are farmers, the number of your children determine the larg farming you can afford to do unlike you that rely on businesses or government work and alos the food you eat remember it comes from North, let me ask you one thing were you ever been to North if no so people of the North are more discipline than you people, if you ever come to North you will agree with me.


Fayose is right in the explanation he gave.

How can you give birth to 12 children and marry 4 wives while earning less than 50k.

It is either Fayose is exaggerating or that man in question have mental problem.

They should look for the man and organize a divorce ceremony for him to rid him of his burden.

If a man like that complain of hunger, they should tie him to the stake and flog him.[/quote]
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by Coolgent(m): 10:45pm On Jul 30, 2024
Old thief!
It's northerners who voted massively for Emilokam.
Now you are insulting them, well payback time is around the corner o.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by Cindypresh(f): 12:26am On Jul 31, 2024
Chinkoalhaji34:
Fayose really knows how to shift blame.

Northerners dey hustle, no doubt, but we all know the real issue na governance and leadership.

Instead of pointing fingers, make we focus on solutions wey go uplift everybody. Tinubu has his plans, and if we all support the right policies, progress go dey for all regions. Let's come together and find a way forward.
If na against the Igbos, you for mellow talk like this??😂

Who be your master again😂
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by eteebanky1: 3:21am On Jul 31, 2024
Bandirao:
how northerners become unproductive people
Well, statistics don't lie

Any developmental stats are not in favour of the North.
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by expert234: 4:02am On Jul 31, 2024
TemplarLandry:
cool True talk from Oshoko.

I dedicate "Cry No More" by Headie One feat. Stormzy & Tay Keith to all almajeris up North.

Great jam!
And suddenly, you became a praise singer to "oshoko" grin. Very funny grin
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by Bandirao(m): 5:57am On Jul 31, 2024
eteebanky1:
Well, statistics don't lie

Any developmental stats are not in favour of the North.
which statistics the one conducted in nigeria which is very inaccurate or what? Yes the north is battling with insecurity which caused many economical damages to rural population boko haram In North East and bandits in North West, but to say that northerners are not productive at total is untrue
Re: Tinubu Not The Problem, Northerners Born Children They Can't Carter For-Fayose by Rajosh(m): 7:37am On Jul 31, 2024
Ojiofor:
Fayose is now insulting Northerners and Islam because they are in power.It is alright.
Keep quiet. where did he call Islam. That's how you people twist things to start religious war.
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