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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 11:46am On Aug 02, 2024
Simeonjoe1:
Like He said I don't even give a hoot about copy this or copy that.
The problem here is calling American planes ugly when the Chinese and Russian is using similar designs!
Please tell us how you want Russia and China to design their stealth planes since you are a stealth expert. May be they should design a plane that lookss like football or wheel barrow. When Russia or China come up with what they don't expect then their technology has been copied.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 11:49am On Aug 02, 2024
obedience4:
Read my post but this time carefully, I wrote and I quote the US is the first to incorporate the bat winged styled to reduced CROSS SECTION on radars. This made the B2 the first and stealthy bomber produced


There are other ones develop but we're not stealthy
Northrop YB-35
Northrop YB-49

Are these we're prototypes and weren't stealthy.
Your question was "before the b2 has there be any bomber developed or in development using the B2 spirit wing design and frame??" and I answered.

But as usual, you have reported to shifting the post to talking about stealth and production aircraft and not prototypes, even though you asked for production aircraft or prototypes.

Well, in terms of stealth, the German Ho 229 was stealthy.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 11:50am On Aug 02, 2024
Vic2023:
@ bolded
If I proof you wrong with evidence probably you will change the topic
Dump head
Not out of context. I mean compared to Isreal Iran practically has a non existence airforce, not zero zero per say
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 11:52am On Aug 02, 2024
dermmy:
US can keep crying cause China keeps making a stride in its military aviation. One thing I understand now is when China makes something that rivals US own then American officials will start crying China carried out espionage and stole blueprint which China used to copy them.

Lies and propaganda just to make China look bad and make people think China is not innovative. If not because China was the first to distribute 5G we would have heard China copied America too. The same China is doing well in AI and Robotics we can as well say China copied US AI tech too.
Baba it's so clear to see naw?
Look at j31 look at F35, swear there's no copy.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 11:57am On Aug 02, 2024
shoodboi2:
Your question was "before the b2 has there be any bomber developed or in development using the B2 spirit wing design and frame??" and I answered.

But as usual, you have reported to shifting the post to talking about stealth and production aircraft and not prototypes, even though you asked for production aircraft or prototypes.

Well, in terms of stealth, the German Ho 229 was stealthy.
Common man, a plane that never made it to production is stealthy.

A plane that took its first flight in 1 March 1944 is stealthy which radar was it tested on, when modern airforce are still grasping with stealth technology, when present day Germany dosent have a stealthy bomber yet.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 11:57am On Aug 02, 2024
shoodboi2:
The Horten Ho 229. It was a German World War 2 prototype bomber/fighter that looked like the B2 Spirit.
Yes the B2 pretty copied the flying wing concept design here.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 12:04pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡Funeral prayers begin for the body of Ismail Haniyeh, head of the Hamas political bureau, at the Imam Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab Mosque in the Qatari capital, Doha.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 12:04pm On Aug 02, 2024
dermmy:
Please tell us how you want Russia and China to design their stealth planes since you are a stealth expert. May be they should design a plane that lookss like football or wheel barrow. When Russia or China come up with what they don't expect then their technology has been copied.
. Well I understand this your view point. Stealth planes has a peculiarities on how they can be designed. But still on still, in the 80s when Russia was matching up to the f15 they came up with a peculiar design that still match compete to f15 in times of speed and haulage which is beautiful in its own way.
But common look at the sukhoi, look at the Chinese Fc31 and J20 do it look as if there's any attempt on making it peculiarly different from western design while still maintaining its Stealth characteristics?
F115 night hawk design is quite different from the B2 even though they a both flying wing concept.
F35 fuselage is different from the F22.
But how come does the J35 looks more like an F35 than even a F22 raptor? And you say no be design copy.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 12:19pm On Aug 02, 2024
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMrXdUnEd/

A USA nuke professional analyst Annie jacobsen said it hard to find Russia and China submarine in the sea

That it easy to find a mango in space than to find any sub in the sea

And the lunch time for them to hit any part of the USA is only ten minutes

So all you nato fans bragging that you want war soon your azz will be light up
And narcissistic Biden the Satan associate will take you to the grave
. While he eats in his bunker

Ukraine puts grand dad's in front lines too

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 12:27pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡ U.S. Congress Report:

Key findings from the document:

▪️ Beijing has already neutralized U.S. military superiority in the western Pacific and is preparing to attack Taiwan by 2027.

▪️ The main goal of the U.S. is to contain China, as even without war, a blockade of Taiwan would result in a $5 trillion loss.

▪️ The threat from Russia is described as constant. Russia is increasing its combat power and possesses the world's largest nuclear arsenal.


▪️ Russian control over Ukraine would pose a threat to NATO, as Russia's border would stretch from the Arctic to the Black Sea.

▪️ The only effective course of action is to increase aid to Ukraine and permit the use of weapons against targets in Russia.

▪️ The U.S. cannot counter China and Russia alone, making alliances like NATO and AUKUS crucial.

▪️ If Russia achieves its goals in Ukraine, China and Russia will simultaneously apply pressure on two fronts, which the U.S. cannot withstand.

▪️ In the event of Russia's failure in Ukraine, U.S. allies will be able to contain China's aggression and force it to reconsider its plans for Taiwan.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 12:29pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡Iran invited senior Hamas official Khaled Mashal to visit Tehran.

Mashal is expected to be the new leader Hamas.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 12:34pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡Israeli ministers were given satellite phones for fear of damage to Israel's communications networks.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 12:34pm On Aug 02, 2024
WriteerNg:
⚡Iran invited senior Hamas official Khaled Mashal to visit Tehran.

Mashal is expected to be the new leader Hamas.
Let's see how many days this one would last. Countdown has begun.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 12:36pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡Hezbollah evacuates party leadership positions in Beirut's southern suburbs, Saudi Arabia's al-Hadath reports.

Hezbollah also reportedly transfers military equipment from the southern suburbs of Beirut.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 12:37pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡The majority of Ukrainians (57%) are currently in favour of starting negotiations with Russia, while 38% are against.

These are the results of a poll conducted by the Ukrainian National Democratic Institute and the Kiev International Institute of Sociology.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 12:49pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡Maria Zakharova reacted to the US statement about the victory of the oppositionist in the elections in Venezuela:

“How?! And Juan Guaidó? From the US point of view, he is no longer president? We didn’t have time to track when he “resigned”,” said Zakharova

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 12:57pm On Aug 02, 2024
Simeonjoe1:
Yes the B2 pretty copied the flying wing concept design here.
Exactly. The US captured the prototype after world war two and moved it to the US.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 1:02pm On Aug 02, 2024
obedience4:
Common man, a plane that never made it to production is stealthy.

A plane that took its first flight in 1 March 1944 is stealthy which radar was it tested on, when modern airforce are still grasping with stealth technology, when present day Germany dosent have a stealthy bomber yet.
You are rambling at this point. Now, we have gone from stealthy to prototype and to now, radar.

Radar has been available since 1935. If you are concerned about the rader they tested it on, then maybe you should ask the US government that stole the Horton Ho 229 after world war 2 and took it to the US.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 1:34pm On Aug 02, 2024
shoodboi2:
You are rambling at this point. Now, we have gone from stealthy to prototype and to now, radar.

Radar has been available since 1935. If you are concerned about the rader they tested it on, then maybe you should ask the US government that stole the Horton Ho 229 after world war 2 and took it to the US.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 1:35pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡Malaysian Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim strongly criticized Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram, for removing his posts related to the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh.

"You are instruments of the oppressive Zionist Israeli regime. Cease this display of cowardice!"

He stated that it was unreasonable for Meta to consider posts honoring a fighter striving to liberate his homeland from oppression as dangerous.

Malaysia demanded an explanation and urged Meta to apologize.

This is not the first time Meta has removed Anwar's posts related to Hamas.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 1:36pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡Putin welcomes home political prisoners held in various western countries last night in Moscow.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 1:38pm On Aug 02, 2024
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 1:40pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡Biden receiving American prisoners held in various prisons in Russia last night.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 1:43pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡Photos of the remains of a US-made MGM-140B ATACMS Block IA ballistic missile shot down and lying on the street in Sevastopol following last night's Ukrainian strikes in the Crimea.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 1:48pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡The U.S. is preparing to send additional fighter jets to Middle East in response to threats by Iran and its agents to attack Israel, NYT reports.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 1:48pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡Qatar's Amir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani attends the funeral prayer of Ismail Haniyeh.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 1:56pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡U.S. unemployment rate "unexpectedly" rises to 4.3%

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 2:01pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡Burkina Faso President Ibrahim Traore:

There will be no more exporting of gold to foreign countries for processing.

Burkina Faso's gold will be used to back up the country's currency.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 2:01pm On Aug 02, 2024
Simeonjoe1:
Yes the B2 pretty copied the flying wing concept design here.
But I'll still to add that the flying wing concept is not an entirely German brainwork.
In fact the flying wing concept has been in development decades before the Germans conceived theirs. US Northrop Grumman developers of B2 has been practicing with the flying wing concept long before the Germans.
In the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s they've developed various variant of the N-1M, N-9M, YB 35/49 which all these later contributes into B2 Spirit development. Attached below are pictures.

Decades of development is what help them to win the contract against formidable defense contractors, the reason why they also won the new B21 raider Stealth bomber contract.
We we can safely say the flying wing stealth concept is an indigenous America design, perfected over the years, this is not negating if similar concept has been developed in other countries like the German Horten Ho 229. But what obedience2 is trying to say, unlike the German whose main reason for developing the H2 is for greater payload and not because of Stealth, same with earlier Northrop flying wing designs. Northrop revolutionize the concept of flying incorporating not only larger payload with reduce drag but also Stealth components of flying wing.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 2:11pm On Aug 02, 2024
⚡This is how Turkish Intelligence (MIT) orchestrated the largest prisoner swap Since WWII.

Türkiye's National Intelligence Organization (MIT) conducted a major prisoner swap operation, the largest exchange operation since World War II.

The operation began when the US, Russia, and Germany requested Türkiye's assistance.

Türkiye was chosen due to its fair and constructive policy in the Russia-Ukraine war and past successes in mediation.

MIT officials frequently met with involved parties. MIT Chief Ibrahim Kalın had multiple face-to-face and phone conversations with counterparts.

MIT resolved parties' concerns, disagreements, and demands through fair and constructive solutions.


Execution of the Operation:

Took place on August 1st at Ankara Esenboğa Airport.

MIT ensured necessary security measures without disrupting regular airport operations.

The swap began at 16.05 with the arrival of the first plane from Slovenia.

Involved planes from Slovenia, Norway, Russia, Germany, and the US. 26 individuals were exchanged in total. Russia received 10 individuals and handed over 16.

MIT oversaw mutual confirmation processes and health checks.

10 individuals boarded a Russian plane to Moscow.

3 individuals boarded a US plane to Washington.

13 individuals boarded a German plane.

The operation ended successfully with the departure of all three planes.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 2:13pm On Aug 02, 2024
shoodboi2:
Your question was "before the b2 has there be any bomber developed or in development using the B2 spirit wing design and frame??" and I answered.

But as usual, you have reported to shifting the post to talking about stealth and production aircraft and not prototypes, even though you asked for production aircraft or prototypes.

Well, in terms of stealth, the German Ho 229 was stealthy.
..

Well was Ho229 the first stealthy bomber made? Northrop spent thousands of dollars to proof that claim using an exact replica. The result?

Ho229 offers no Stealth advantage than the traditional German bombers back then. An early warning WW2 British rader could easily spot the H2 same as would of any bomber back then.
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