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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Botragelad(op): 4:10pm On Aug 02, 2024
GloriousGbola:
It is an extreme case of brain fart.

Can you imagine northern Nigeria fielding a trans athlete? That is the level of cognitive dissonance here.
Exactly. Human hardly think these days.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by izubext007: 4:12pm On Aug 02, 2024
let's see her pu$$¥
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by lexy2014: 4:12pm On Aug 02, 2024
Botragelad:
I've been noticing a load of misinformation floating about, and I think it even made it onto the front page at one point. So, I'm just going to lift this(explanation below) straight from a source, not my own work, mind you and give a brief rundown of the whole thing.




It's quite straightforward, really, for those who can be bothered to read and do their own research without blindly following the crowd of misinformation.

Below, you'll find photos of her from when she was a youngster, as well as her record. And, might I add, she's had a few fight and come out on the losing end, too.
this puts to rest the argument of the transgender agenda that women can compete against men and men should be allowed to compete against under whatever confused label they choose.

but its unfair for a woman with high testosterone and appearance to compete against women who dont have such high levels. its no longer a fair fight
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Lawag3: 4:12pm On Aug 02, 2024
PJtech:
That doesn't change the fact that she has XY chromosomes which makes her 'male'

Males should not be allowed to take part in women games
So now males can have a vagina a uterus ovaries and get pregnant abi?


Because she can do all that.


There are men with the xx chromosome.


That doesn't make them women.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by brain54(m): 4:15pm On Aug 02, 2024
MrPOTUS:
Your last paragraph says it all.

Coz if u put her against a real man, na die she dey, lipsrsealed

Against her own sex, na die her opponent dey cheesy
Exactly...

The paralympics comes to mind!
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Rotji(m): 4:16pm On Aug 02, 2024
Ehen cos I was wondering how Algeria 🇩🇿 an Arab country would field a transgender in any event at all.

The lack of correct information on this issue has triggered lots of responses which were not necessary had it been people know.

This is to let you know how unfair it is to allow trans women to compete with biological women if Imane a born woman but with hormonal defects making her possess male hormones and some xtics can be too overbearing or overwhelming on women.

Remember she was denied participation in the India 🇮🇳 games few years ago cost her test details didn't fit the normal criteria for female competitors.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Botragelad(op): 4:16pm On Aug 02, 2024
brain54:
mosaicism is a mutation in genetic makeup of an individual...

Which means it's unnatural a disorder.

You were the one who brought the issue of estrogen and pregesterone in the argument which suggested that it didn't matter in determining a person's gender. Which was why I took the time to explain it to you.

Of course tetestorone is present in females also just as estrogen and pregesterone is in men. The level or abundance is what tells Alot.

I only brought up the issue of visible sex organs because of your claim of other determinants to verify gender which you still have not mentioned.

Your argument is simply neither here nor there and lacks clarity which only confirms you as being confused. You seem like a gaslighter.

Good luck with your confusion!
What's this human saying?
Mosaicism is the presence of two or more different cell populations within an individual, its not a mutation per se, call it a natural occurrence that can affect anyone. And, I might add, it's not necessarily a disorder, just tells you about the complexity of human biology.

I'm guessing, you're still stuck on hormones and visible sex organs, aren't you? I mentioned estrogen and progesterone to illustrate the nuances of sex determination, not to suggest they're the sole arbiters of gender. And, of course, testosterone is present in females, just as estrogen and progesterone are present in males. It's all about the delicate balance of these hormones.

As for other determinants of gender, I've mentioned chromosomal variations, hormonal influences, etc. But, I suppose, that's too much for you to grasp.
I don't know, but your argument, is a jumbled mess of nonsense!😂
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Botragelad(op): 4:16pm On Aug 02, 2024
lexy2014:
this puts to rest the argument of the transgender agenda that women can compete against men and men should be allowed to compete against under whatever confused label they choose.

but its unfair for a woman with high testosterone and appearance to compete against women who dont have such high levels. its no longer a fair fight
🥴
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Lawag3: 4:17pm On Aug 02, 2024
BarrElChapo:
Would have been better if she were trans. She has XY chromosomes and that technically makes he/she a man as women have only X chromosomes.
OK men can have a vagina a uterus ovaries and get pregnant.

I understand you now.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Lawag3: 4:18pm On Aug 02, 2024
OALandAgents:
" She" does have male reproductive system including functional testicles.
No she doesn't
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by GloriousGbola: 4:18pm On Aug 02, 2024
lexy2014:
this puts to rest the argument of the transgender agenda that women can compete against men and men should be allowed to compete against under whatever confused label they choose.

but its unfair for a woman with high testosterone and appearance to compete against women who dont have such high levels. its no longer a fair fight
Then it is unfair for Ethiopians to run long distane
It is unfair for blacks to be sprinters
It is unfair for Canadians to play hockey.
It is unfair for tall people to play basketball.

Elite athletes often have unique or exaggerated physical traits

If I recall Micheal Phelps had very big feet.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by lexy2014: 4:21pm On Aug 02, 2024
GloriousGbola:
Then it is unfair for Ethiopians to run long distane
It is unfair for blacks to be sprinters
It is unfair for Canadians to play hockey.
It is unfair for tall people to play basketball.

Elite athletes often have unique or exaggerated physical traits

If I recall Micheal Phelps had very big feet.
do all the people you mentioned above have high testosterone?

how does all you mentioned above negate the issue of high testosterone among female athletes?
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by brain54(m): 4:22pm On Aug 02, 2024
Botragelad:
What's this human saying?
Mosaicism is the presence of two or more different cell populations within an individual, its not a mutation per se, call it a natural occurrence that can affect anyone. And, I might add, it's not necessarily a disorder, just tells you about the complexity of human biology.

I'm guessing, you're still stuck on hormones and visible sex organs, aren't you? I mentioned estrogen and progesterone to illustrate the nuances of sex determination, not to suggest they're the sole arbiters of gender. And, of course, testosterone is present in females, just as estrogen and progesterone are present in males. It's all about the delicate balance of these hormones.

As for other determinants of gender, I've mentioned chromosomal variations, hormonal influences, etc. But, I suppose, that's too much for you to grasp.
I don't know, but your argument, is a jumbled mess of nonsense!😂
If you can open your mouth...


Or your phone in this instance to say mosaicism is not a mutation of genetics but a natural occurrence not an abnormally then I don't know what to say to you again.

Just wallow in your ignorance!
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by lexy2014: 4:23pm On Aug 02, 2024
Lawag3:
OK men can have a vagina a uterus ovaries and get pregnant.

I understand you now.
no. she/he is intersex. it is a biological anomaly
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Afritop(m): 4:24pm On Aug 02, 2024
So Bobrisky too is not trans. huh
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by folake4u: 4:26pm On Aug 02, 2024
lexy2014:
this puts to rest the argument of the transgender agenda that women can compete against men and men should be allowed to compete against under whatever confused label they choose.

but its unfair for a woman with high testosterone and appearance to compete against women who dont have such high levels. its no longer a fair fight
@ the bolded. What are you even saying?

So because she has high level of testosterone, she should use the men's bathroom too right?

I'm going by your logic now.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by SmartyPants(m): 4:28pm On Aug 02, 2024
Botragelad:
So what? 😂
Smarty pants indeed!
So she has a clear and unfair biological advantage! She is essentially a man as she has XY chromosomes. Are you dense?
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Botragelad(op): 4:29pm On Aug 02, 2024
brain54:
If you can open your mouth...


Or your phone in this instance to say mosaicism is not a mutation of genetics but a natural occurrence not an abnormally then I don't know what to say to you again.

Just wallow in your ignorance!
Prove me wrong and quit the noise.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Angelfrost(m): 4:30pm On Aug 02, 2024
Bottom line...

She has too much "Manliness" in her bones and blood, which makes her unsuitable to compete against women who don't have such "advantages".

Olympics should revoke her participation immediately until this "anomaly" is corrected.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by KushLyon(m): 4:30pm On Aug 02, 2024
lexy2014:
do all the people you mentioned above have high testosterone?

how does all you mentioned above negate the issue of high testosterone among female athletes?
You completely missed the point. You should probably stay out of this argument
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Botragelad(op): 4:30pm On Aug 02, 2024
SmartyPants:
So she has a clear and unfair biological advantage! She is essentially a man as she has XY chromosomes. Are you dense?
Smarty-pants indeed! 😂
Read my previous response to your mates. I did a proper explanation. Don't just rush to respond.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Judolisco(m): 4:32pm On Aug 02, 2024
PJtech:
That doesn't change the fact that she has XY chromosomes which makes her 'male'

Males should not be allowed to take part in women games
dem no born her with prick na.....no be she create herself... So u want her to fight with males? Dem go kill her
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Gbeng30(m): 4:32pm On Aug 02, 2024
Is not her fault, it's the xy chromosome...they should allow her continue in the competition.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by SmartyPants(m): 4:35pm On Aug 02, 2024
Botragelad:
Smarty-pants indeed! 😂
Read my previous response to your mates. I did a proper explanation. Don't just rush to respond.
Mister denselad: That person is essentially a man at least for the purposes of sports, and has no business competing with females. Not interested in any rubbish you may have written previously. End of.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Botragelad(op): 4:37pm On Aug 02, 2024
SmartyPants:
Mister denselad: That person is essentially a man at least for the purposes of sports, and has no business competing with females. Not interested in any rubbish you may have written previously. End of.
Smarty-pants indeed! 😂😂😂😂
Smart in the pant. Lol
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by MrSly(m): 4:37pm On Aug 02, 2024
Botragelad:
I've been noticing a load of misinformation floating about, and I think it even made it onto the front page at one point. So, I'm just going to lift this(explanation below) straight from a source, not my own work, mind you and give a brief rundown of the whole thing.




It's quite straightforward, really, for those who can be bothered to read and do their own research without blindly following the crowd of misinformation.

Below, you'll find photos of her from when she was a youngster, as well as her record. And, might I add, she's had a few fight and come out on the losing end, too.
How do we identify a male by chromosome? Presence of XY chromosome. Female does not have Y chromosome. So if he has Y chromosome and also possesses male organ as you see in the picture below then what makes him a female?

Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Marc3500: 4:37pm On Aug 02, 2024
Where are my Nigerian brothers wey sabi biology for here
Hit me 😊😊
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by brain54(m): 4:37pm On Aug 02, 2024
Botragelad:
Prove me wrong and quit the noise.
No one can convince people like you...

Once your mind is made up.

You will only keep coming up with useless counter arguments... Some of them made up. Just to suit your argument.

Believe whatever you want. But like I said saying black is white would not make it so in 5000 years.

Good luck!
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Botragelad(op): 4:38pm On Aug 02, 2024
brain54:
No one can convince people like you...

Once your mind is made up.

You will only keep coming up with useless counter arguments... Some of them made up. Just to suit your argument.

Believe whatever you want. But like I said saying black is white would not make it so in 5000 years.

Good luck!
Okay. You are clueless on what to say. I understand!
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by brain54(m): 4:40pm On Aug 02, 2024
Botragelad:
Okay. You are clueless on what to say. I understand!
This post exactly proves my point...

Your not on the same level with me Bro!
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by unyimesamuel001: 4:40pm On Aug 02, 2024
CAN A FEMALE HAVE MALE CHROMOSOMES

Imane Khelif is said to have XY chromosome and high testosterone levels but has a V*. (Islam do not permit trans)

Here is the reason.

Imane Khelif likely has a congenital disorder called ANDROGEN INSENSITIVITY SYNDROME. You can browse about it.

The disorder is due to the inability of the external genitals to respond to stimulation by testosterone. This males will have female genitals (has V*) and high testosterone levels.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by lexy2014: 4:41pm On Aug 02, 2024
KushLyon:
You completely missed the point. You should probably stay out of this argument
can you show me the argument you are referring to?

I remember asking questions. when did questions become argument?

is it that you dont know the difference between a question and an argument?

if you dont know the difference between an argument and a question, then what makes you the umpire to decide who stays or who leaves?

lets try again....

do all the people you mentioned above have high testosterone?

how does all you mentioned above negate the issue of high testosterone among female athletes?
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