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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by PJtech: 5:32pm On Aug 02, 2024
Maski87:
If she is xy tell how come she has a vagina
It's complicated.. Her cases is so rare
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Atonda012: 5:34pm On Aug 02, 2024
An example of wotowotocious collection. Angela no wan die.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by BadMaster: 5:34pm On Aug 02, 2024
Angelfrost:
Bottom line...

She has too much "Manliness" in her bones and blood, which makes her unsuitable to compete against women who don't have such "advantages".

Olympics should revoke her participation immediately until this "anomaly" is corrected.
Khelif has been beaten twice by two different Irish women in the past. Carini simply couldn't compete.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by SeriouslySense(m): 5:35pm On Aug 02, 2024
well she looks like a male lipsrsealed

No wonder

"She has hyperandrogenism, a condition marked by unusually high levels of androgens in her blood, resulting in elevated testosterone and the presence of XY chromosomes."
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by lexy2014: 5:37pm On Aug 02, 2024
GloriousGbola:
He is six foot five. It is unfair. tongue

Can you not see the difference in height between him and the other sprinters?

They should have dropped out and insisted on running against a person of similar height
How was his height an advantage?
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by izzou(m): 5:38pm On Aug 02, 2024
pocohantas:
So she is a woman?

Has she been beaten by women in the past?

If I had seen her picture without any caption, I will say she looks like ladies and gentlemen.

But then, her condition is similar to the one I see in Nigeria where some women have beards right? Only that she is in sports. I am trying to get the issue here.
[color=royalblue]She almost killed her fellow woman with blows..

Blows that felt like something an Agbero will throw[/color]
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Angelfrost(m): 5:38pm On Aug 02, 2024
BadMaster:
Khelif has been beaten twice by two different Irish women in the past. Carini simply couldn't compete.
Wow... That's interesting. grin
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Newton1045: 5:41pm On Aug 02, 2024
Sorry for her condition. She is a man.

The y chromosome makes her a man. And she would be stronger than natural female
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by pocohantas(f): 5:41pm On Aug 02, 2024
izzou:
[color=royalblue]She almost killed her fellow woman with blows..

Blows that felt like something an Agbero will throw[/color]
Lmao!

Has she been killed in the past by fellow women? She is not trans from this writeup. They say she no be woman. Wetin she come be?
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by SeriouslySense(m): 5:41pm On Aug 02, 2024
Definitely stronger, even her appearance alone will tell.

Newton1045:
Sorry for her condition. She is a man.

The y chromosome makes her a man. And she would be stronger than natural female
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Godszilla: 5:43pm On Aug 02, 2024
As stated, the International Boxing Association (IBA) feels it appropriate at this prevalent time, to address recent media statements regarding those athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif, particularly regarding their participation in the Paris Olympic Games 2024.

We wish to make the following points in these regards:

On 24 March 2023, IBA disqualified athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif from the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships New Delhi 2023. This disqualification was a result of their failure to meet the eligibility criteria for participating in the women’s competition, as set and laid out in the IBA Regulations. This decision, made after a meticulous review, was extremely important and necessary to uphold the level of fairness and utmost integrity of the competition.

Point to note, the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential. This test conclusively indicated that both athletes did not meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have competitive advantages over other female competitors.

The decision made by IBA on 24 March 2023, was subsequently ratified by the IBA Board of Directors on 25 March 2023. The official record of this decision can be accessed on the IBA website here IBA Board of Directors Meeting Minutes.

The disqualification was based on two tests conducted on both athletes as follows:

Test performed during the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships in Istanbul 2022.
Test performed during the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships in New Delhi 2023.
For clarification

Lin Yu-ting did not appeal the IBA’s decision to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), thus rendering the decision legally binding.

Imane Khelif initially appealed the decision to CAS but withdrew the appeal during the process, also making the IBA decision legally binding.

Our Committees have rigorously reviewed and endorsed the decision made during the World Championships. While IBA remains committed to ensuring competitive fairness in all of our events, we express concern over the inconsistent application of eligibility criteria by other sporting organizations, including those overseeing the Olympic Games. The IOC’s differing regulations on these matters, in which IBA is not involved, raise serious questions about both competitive fairness and athletes’ safety.

For clarification on why the IOC permits athletes with competitive advantages to compete in their events, we urge interested parties to seek answers directly from the IOC.

Yours sincerely,

International Boxing Association

https://www.iba.sport/news/statement-made-by-the-international-boxing-association-regarding-athletes-disqualifications-in-world-boxing-championships-2023/#:~:text=On%2024%20March%202023%2C%20IBA%20disqualified%20athletes%20Lin,IBA%20Women%E2%80%99s%20World%20Boxing%20Championships%20New%20Delhi%202023.

Botragelad:
I've been noticing a load of misinformation floating about, and I think it even made it onto the front page at one point. So, I'm just going to lift this(explanation below) straight from a source, not my own work, mind you and give a brief rundown of the whole thing.




It's quite straightforward, really, for those who can be bothered to read and do their own research without blindly following the crowd of misinformation.

Below, you'll find photos of her from when she was a youngster, as well as her record. And, might I add, she's had a few fight and come out on the losing end, too.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by izzou(m): 5:43pm On Aug 02, 2024
pocohantas:
Lmao!

Has she been killed in the past by fellow women? She is not trans from this writeup. They say she no be woman. Wetin she come be?
[color=royalblue]Her testosterone level is as high as that of a man.

She has been banned twice in the past.

As a lady, fighting with her is like fighting with a man.

Na why that Italian lady run. Make she no kill am before she find horseband[/color]
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by SeriouslySense(m): 5:45pm On Aug 02, 2024
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Her testosterone level is as high as that of a man.

She has been banned twice in the past.

As a lady, fighting with her is like fighting with a man.

Na why that Italian lady run. Make she no kill am before she find horseband[/color]
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by EnterpriseMan(m):
Botragelad:
Who said it makes them male? I asked you a question whether or not it ticks your male and female box. You clearly didn't read to understand my previous response.

Now turner syndrome, is a condition where a female is born with only one X chromosome (45,X instead of 46,XX). And, for your information they're still female! How can that be, you ask? Well.

In my previous response I explained that sex chromosomes aren't the only determining factor for sex or gender! It's a complex. And in Turner syndrome, the presence of a single X chromosome still triggers the development of female characteristics.

So, simple sense tell you that having only one X chromosome doesn't make someone male. That's like saying a car with three wheels is a bicycle. It's a bloody nonsense!

And another thing you should know, Turner syndrome individuals are still women, with female Instruments and secondary sex characteristics. They might have some developmental issues, but that doesn't change their sex or gender. Do you understand now?
Oga stop your super story. Forget how many xxxxxx or xxxyyyyyy. It's very simple.
The presence of a Y chromosome denotes a male child. X is in everyone, some conditions you have more but the presence of a Y is what makes a child male.
Stop talking about how many X or how many Y. Even in the 2023 boxing championship in India she was disqualified because she failed the test.

She was misgendered and raised as a female doesn't make her a female.

Then there is a condition called the Swyer syndrome where a person has the XY chromosome but develops a female representative system. This is a condition where you are a male with all male chemistry and hormones but have a female representative system. And this I suspect is her condition so I cannot blame her or her family because unless you do a test for it, it's hard to determine.
It's one of those situations where life deals you a bad hand and you're left to live with it. She is not a transgender nor part of the lgbtq, so for that I can't hate her.
I only have sympathy for her and her opponent.

So her condition is a gray area, I don't want her disqualified and I still don't want her beating up women who don't have testosterone.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Love800(m): 5:50pm On Aug 02, 2024
Nothing of such though.
As far she has only vagina(female reproductive organ), she is a woman even with the high tetesterones.
brain54:
Born with xy chromosomes...

This is a very complex issue actually.

But I still feel it's an unfair advantage. It's like half male and half female.

Maybe it should be considered creating a special Olympics or games for these "unique" people!
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by nkpommpko(m): 5:50pm On Aug 02, 2024
This is a medical condition, she should seek medical attention, instead of taking advantage of it to wounjure small girls up and down.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by brain54(m): 5:55pm On Aug 02, 2024
Love800:
Nothing of such though.
As far she has only vagina(female reproductive organ), she is a woman even with the high tetesterones.
Okay...

But what about the xy chromosomes present?
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by blowjohn(m): 5:55pm On Aug 02, 2024
Botragelad:
I've been noticing a load of misinformation floating about, and I think it even made it onto the front page at one point. So, I'm just going to lift this(explanation below) straight from a source, not my own work, mind you and give a brief rundown of the whole thing.

So let her go and compete in sports that people with high testosterone levels compete in.

Simple.






It's quite straightforward, really, for those who can be bothered to read and do their own research without blindly following the crowd of misinformation.

Below, you'll find photos of her from when she was a youngster, as well as her record. And, might I add, she's had a few fight and come out on the losing end, too.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Imnaknus: 5:57pm On Aug 02, 2024
Power of the media! Even Elon Musk was X-ing what he obviously knew little about. Thanks for this information, OP.
It’s not her fault she’s the way she is, plus she’s been beaten by a female before and no one complained then.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Proserpina: 6:03pm On Aug 02, 2024
As far as I'm concerned, she's a woman and has the right to compete.

If others can't compete,they shouldn't. grin grin

There are women more muscular In Nigeria we don't discriminate against them, na you no go near their husbands grin grin

Na everything white dey cry ontop . grin
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Omotaday(m):
PJtech:
That doesn't change the fact that she has XY chromosomes which makes her 'male'

Males should not be allowed to take part in women games
You lots are confused.

Will it also be okay to tell males in the same condition to compete in female sport?

Conservatives say there are only two genders and male should be male, female should be female. I agree


But here is a born female and you lots are trying to force her to change her gender and also telling her to go compete with the opposite sex.


This is madness!
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by drlateef: 6:20pm On Aug 02, 2024
Botragelad:
I've been noticing a load of misinformation floating about, and I think it even made it onto the front page at one point. So, I'm just going to lift this(explanation below) straight from a source, not my own work, mind you and give a brief rundown of the whole thing.




It's quite straightforward, really, for those who can be bothered to read and do their own research without blindly following the crowd of misinformation.

Below, you'll find photos of her from when she was a youngster, as well as her record. And, might I add, she's had a few fight and come out on the losing end, too.
Ordinarily, any woman in whom high testosterone levels are found in her blood would be disqualified for doping. Now, can anyone tell me if there is difference in effects of endogenous and exogenous testosterone? There is practically no difference. To now claim she was borne with it and so not cheating is ludicrous. Since she has XY xsomes, it then means she is a man and has muscle bulk and power of a man. He has just been assaulting the poor female boxers because he is not in their class😂
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Botragelad(op): 6:20pm On Aug 02, 2024
Omotaday:
You lots are confused.

Will it also be okay to tell males in the same condition to compete in female sport?

Conservatives says there are only two genders and male should be male, female should be female. I agree


But here is a born female and you lots are trying to force her to change her gender and also telling her to go compete with the opposite sex.


This is madness!
😂
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Botragelad(op): 6:21pm On Aug 02, 2024
drlateef:
Ordinarily, any woman in whom high testosterone levels are found in her blood would be disqualified for doping. Now, can anyone tell me if there is difference in effects of endogenous and exogenous testosterone? There is practically no difference. To now claim she was borne with it and so not cheating is ludicrous. Since she has XY xsomes, it then means she is a man and has muscle bulk and power of a man. He has just been assaulting the poor female boxers because he is not in their class😂
Just another confused guy who refused to read! Lol
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by PopQueenAgency: 6:23pm On Aug 02, 2024
PJtech:
That doesn't change the fact that she has XY chromosomes which makes her 'male'

Males should not be allowed to take part in women games
Doesn't your mom have XY chromosomes, making you akudaya?
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Blackdisciple(m): 6:28pm On Aug 02, 2024
So what they meant is that shes tom-boy or what cos I dont understand she's intersex born with male chromosomes grin grin grin
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by drlateef: 6:29pm On Aug 02, 2024
Botragelad:
Just another confused guy who refused to read! Lol
I am not confused. You dont know anything about intersex and pathophysiology behind it. So keep quiet.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by femi4: 6:33pm On Aug 02, 2024
Botragelad:
I've been noticing a load of misinformation floating about, and I think it even made it onto the front page at one point. So, I'm just going to lift this(explanation below) straight from a source, not my own work, mind you and give a brief rundown of the whole thing.




It's quite straightforward, really, for those who can be bothered to read and do their own research without blindly following the crowd of misinformation.

Below, you'll find photos of her from when she was a youngster, as well as her record. And, might I add, she's had a few fight and come out on the losing end, too.
Her testosterone level is quite high
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Lawag3: 6:34pm On Aug 02, 2024
Angelfrost:
Wow... That's interesting. grin
She has 9 career loss and only 11 wins by KO so the advantage doesn't even show too much did the other women that beat her have two heads?
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by DaddyJapan(m): 6:37pm On Aug 02, 2024
GloriousGbola:
It is an extreme case of brain fart.

Can you imagine northern Nigeria fielding a trans athlete? That is the level of cognitive dissonance here.

Maybe next people will drop out of races because they are running long distance against biological Ethiopians. That Italian boxer is a punk bitch arse.
While I understand the larger import of your argument, you muddy the waters by needlessly injecting religion/culture into the debate.

Iran regularly runs foul of the rules of fair play in women's football, because some of the footballers it fields have a rather masculine appearance. By the way, it is also the only majority Muslim country I know where gender-reassigment surgery is sponsored by the government - red tape notwithstanding.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by PDPGuy: 6:39pm On Aug 02, 2024
pocohantas:
So she is a woman?

Has she been beaten by women in the past?

If I had seen her picture without any caption, I will say she looks like ladies and gentlemen.

But then, her condition is similar to the one I see in Nigeria where some women have beards right? Only that she is in sports. I am trying to get the issue here.
In fact, she had lost 6 previous matches to her fellow women
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