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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 7:34pm On Aug 02, 2024
Android17:
All the sanctions that were imposed on Nigeria because of Abacha's rein of terror by the west were lifted at OBJs swearing in. OBJ did not do ANYTHING special. Regardless of what you heard now in hindsight.

LAMBA. They changed the metrics for determining growth to sell this obvious lie. You can't be borrowing heavily to service salaries in a thriving economy. It is similar to how Fauci and his hordes of deranged psychopaths changed the definition of a vaccine so they could coerce people into taking an mRNA gene therapy in-the-guise of a vaccine.

Was corruption not fighting back tooth and nail to kill her? How many attempts at her life did she face as the NAFDAC boss?

LOOOOL. Stop letting MIT degrees bamboozle you.


Out of respect for Adesina, I would just LOL my response to this.
OH really?
OBJ didn't do anything special?
The Telecommunications sector just miraculously started booming?
The debt forgiveness by OBJ and okonji?
How much was given to Nigeria after these sanctions where lifted up?

For the GEJ, please tell us how they changed the metrics. You can't just say they did that without showing us working so we can learn about this magic done.

Corruption fought back and yet she was very successful during her time with the help of OBJ which is the most important thing.

You haven't said anything about Okonjo to disclaim her success as finance minister.

Please disrespect Adesina. Thanks
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:50pm On Aug 02, 2024
[color=royalblue]North was deceived.

E be like say na the new format for the rest of the year.

North was deceived[/color]
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 7:55pm On Aug 02, 2024
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 7:58pm On Aug 02, 2024
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[font=serif].....somebody like this go dey wonder why Nigerians dey protest of hardship. LOL!


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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:59pm On Aug 02, 2024
swiz123:
Yes he did.

Anambra was an eyesore during Mbadinauju's time.
How was Anambra when Ngige left and how was it when Obi left office

Obi left and many were wishing it was Ngige who continued

Facts only
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:00pm On Aug 02, 2024
larride:
Yes there are no easy solution to Nigeria problem means you must be careful not to compound those problem. Nigeria was already tough as it was before he removed the fuel subsidy, after removing the subsidy, the shege level was increased by x10.

I'm of the opinion that if he had waited for maybe 6 months maybe to critically access the situation of things, he would've come up with a better way to manage the fall out of the fuel subsidy removal. He can easily send a supplementary budget request to the NA to cover the 6 month.

Now the government is on the back good struggling to even catch up. It's self sabotage.
And in those 6months salaries won't be paid or where will they get money for unbudgeted subsidy from
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:01pm On Aug 02, 2024
Ibime:
Sarki dey try. He started from Nairaland

But his education level is very low. On a normal day, most aboki no dey speak English so to them Sarki is is the one-eyed man in the land of the blind.
It sounds cruel and derogatory until you hear the insanely stupid takes from so called online thought leaders of the north who claim they were somehow deceived into rioting.

One thing has changed and that is that it is no longer foreign tribes the urchins are robbing and killing and beating, but their own kinsmen
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:03pm On Aug 02, 2024
Foreign investors left Nigeria during the military regime and came back during civilian rule which fell on OBJs laps

The Bush administration was pushing debt forgiveness to many African countries

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/07/hearafrica05.development
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m):
All this talk of subsidy was removed to save cost would have made sense if the same Govt didn't spend 90billion to subsidize Hajj, spend 21billion to complete a house for VP when the Aguda House is befitting, spend 150billion (allegedly) to buy a new PJ amongst other wasteful spendings, while the country grapple with hyperInflation.
You saved money by removing subsidy on Petroleum, Education, Power and then spend some of the saved money on useless projects that add no value to our economy. Will this Polithiefcians die if they do the right thing while stealing with sense, a serving Minister was recently accused of buying his forth House in Canada 1 year plus in office.
Sultan of Sokoto said in January i think that the only reason the Northern youth are not on the street protesting the hardship is because they still obey him and other Northern Leaders, that the moment they stop listening and obeying them the North and Nigeria might burn.
Crises like this could lead to a coup de ta if not well managed by the President, and this may be what the North want. After several meetings were held in Daura between Buhari and some Northern leaders, their people suddenly championed a hunger protest. I hope President Tinubu is fully in control of his Military as Commander-in-Chief, and also has spies within the rank and file.
The insensitivity of Govt to the plight of Nigerians is just too obvious and annoying, and it is so because they are never the target when the masses are running mad with anger like we are currently seeing in the North.
Govt at all levels should wake up to their responsibilities, before the unexpected happens.....
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 8:09pm On Aug 02, 2024
North was used and deceived by who? cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 8:10pm On Aug 02, 2024
Theflint1:
Lol...now na the time to farm endorsement from any and everywhere.
I dey tell you
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:14pm On Aug 02, 2024
raumdeuter:
And in those 6months salaries won't be paid or where will they get money for unbudgeted subsidy from
The same place they are getting money to pay subsidy now.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 8:21pm On Aug 02, 2024
Lol same old excuses. Like Buhari like Tinubu. Buhari set Nigeria back many years facts. If one year is like this, only God knows how Nigeria will be after 4 years of this disaster of a president.

I mean we all knew he had nothing to offer but this level of incompetency is really a discovery. Nigerians have never seen anything close to this level of deterioration we are experiencing on all levels.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 8:22pm On Aug 02, 2024
Amigoss:
North was used and deceived by who? cheesy
Na Tinubu na, he used Mu-Mu ticket to deceive them.


grin grin cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:23pm On Aug 02, 2024
larride:
The same place they are getting money to pay subsidy now.
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:23pm On Aug 02, 2024
GloriousGbola:
It sounds cruel and derogatory until you hear the insanely stupid takes from so called online thought leaders of the north who claim they were somehow deceived into rioting.

One thing has changed and that is that it is no longer foreign tribes the urchins are robbing and killing and beating, but their own kinsmen
Lol, don't hold your breath.

It happened this way cause there wasn't a religious/tribal slant to the protests.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:24pm On Aug 02, 2024
Ellexy:
By Tinubu na, he used Mu-Mu ticket to deceive them.


grin grin cheesy
They still hold the key to his administration, and na less than 3 years remain...well more 2 if you remove campaign year.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 8:24pm On Aug 02, 2024
According to Raumdeuter, Tinubu won't go back on paying subsidy no matter the protest, but we are paying more subsidy now than when he entered.

Lamba president, gullible followers.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 8:29pm On Aug 02, 2024
izzou:
[color=royalblue]North was deceived.

E be like say na the new format for the rest of the year.

North was deceived[/color]
Make dem go warm eba chop abeg. Deceive ko, deception ni
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:30pm On Aug 02, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
OH really?
OBJ didn't do anything special?
The Telecommunications sector just miraculously started booming?
The debt forgiveness by OBJ and okonji?
How much was given to Nigeria after these sanctions where lifted up?

For the GEJ, please tell us how they changed the metrics. You can't just say they did that without showing us working so we can learn about this magic done.

Corruption fought back and yet she was very successful during her time with the help of OBJ which is the most important thing.

You haven't said anything about Okonjo to disclaim her success as finance minister.

Please disrespect Adesina. Thanks
No matter how they try and twist it though, they can't argue with their realities (especially those in Naija), life was easier in certain administrations, and harder in others... abroadians can keep quoting statistics (be like we don dey chop statistics cheesy), but like Ibime would say, reality is undefeated.

Every administration has the challenges and advantages their administration enjoyed. I'm sure if you sat an Obasanjo down and asked him the challenges he had to surmount, 3 hrs e go still dey talk.

We can't argue reality, and the reality remains that life has been hardest for the average Nigerian under the APC administration. No matter the twisting and turning that's done, that's the fact.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 8:30pm On Aug 02, 2024
cool

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 8:31pm On Aug 02, 2024
raumdeuter:
Foreign investors left Nigeria during the military regime and came back during civilian rule which fell on OBJs laps

The Bush administration was giving debt forgiveness to many African countries

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/07/hearafrica05.development
Other African countries reignited bilateral trades. Econet, MTN were able to do/ start business within Nigeria hence GSM.

EU that only gave humanitarian aides started offering development support. They offered OBJ billions of foreign currency to DEVELOP his country.

They helped with repatriated funds. Monies stolen by past governments started being refunded.

Cc LiveLongNprospa

I'm not going to do your homework for you.

Rebasing just means changing the base for which the economy (specifically GDP) should be compared to. It is wishy-washy as I can decide to compare my economic growth from any time to make the numbers look fantastic. If the per capita GDP has not changed, then my useless metric does not translate to truly getting wealthier.

Think of it this way. If you had 5 dogs (male and female genders) and only N1000 to tend to them in 2020 and now they've mated and had puppies so your total dogs in 2024 is 15 yet you still have only N1200 to take care of them, did you get richer?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:31pm On Aug 02, 2024
OasisX:
cool
[color=royalblue]Errrrmmm

According to some of our friends, na lamba be this oh.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 8:33pm On Aug 02, 2024
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Errrrmmm

According to some of our friends, na lamba be this oh.

grin[/color]
grin

.....its like gospel to me not lamba bruh.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:34pm On Aug 02, 2024
It's going 10 years now that APC has been in charge, and it's been the 10 unique years in the history of Nigeria where nothing at all was going an administration way...last last una go wash una head.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:38pm On Aug 02, 2024
Android17:
Other African countries reignited bilateral trades. Econet, MTN were able to do/ start business within Nigeria hence GSM.

EU that only gave humanitarian aides started offering development support. They offered OBJ billions of foreign currency to DEVELOP his country.

They helped with repatriated funds. Monies stolen by past governments started being refunded.

Cc LiveLongNprospa

I'm not going to do your homework for you.

Rebasing just means changing the base for which the economy (specifically GDP) should be compared to. It is wishy-washy as I can decide to compare my economic growth from any time to make the numbers look fantastic. If the per capita GDP has not changed, then my useless metric does not translate to truly getting wealthier.

Think of it this way. If you had 5 dogs (male and female genders) and only N1000 to tend to them in 2020 and now they've mated and had puppies so your total dogs in 2024 is 15 yet you still have only N1200 to take care of them, did you get richer?
There is a reason why everyone is avoiding the question

What is our income as a country, what is our population
Then calculate our income per head then compare to any country with similar to develop an expectation of where our standard of living should be without Nigerian factor
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:39pm On Aug 02, 2024
Theflint1:
It's going 10 years now that APC has been in charge, and it's been the 10 unique years in the history of Nigeria where nothing at all was going an administration way...last last una go wash una head.
Before APC FG under GEJ and Iweala were borrowing to pay salaries

In this same Nigeria
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:40pm On Aug 02, 2024
larride:
The same place they are getting money to pay subsidy now.
The increased state allocations is what will suffer. The same allocations governors said was not enough to meet salary obligations
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:43pm On Aug 02, 2024
[color=royalblue]KEDC disconnect Govt House because of gbese

Govt carry padlock, lock their gate.

What a country![/color]
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:45pm On Aug 02, 2024
izzou:
[color=royalblue]KEDC disconnect Govt House because of gbese

Govt carry padlock, lock their gate.

What a country![/color]
because nigerians everywhere have been conditioned from childhood to see electricity as free or cheap
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:46pm On Aug 02, 2024
raumdeuter:
There is a reason why everyone is avoiding the question

What is our income as a country, what is our population
Then calculate our income per head then compare to any country with similar to develop an expectation of where our standard of living should be without Nigerian factor
Maybe the more important question should be what our per capita income was when PDP handed over to APC, and what's our per capita income today.

We've always had a huge population, Nigeria did not magically become a populated country under the APC...the world's population in 2015 is not world's population in 2024.

How, despite our population were Nigerians living better under PDP vs now under APC.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:48pm On Aug 02, 2024
raumdeuter:
Before APC FG under GEJ and Iweala were borrowing to pay salaries

In this same Nigeria
Whether you borrow to pay salaries, or to run capital projects, what matters is how your borrowing affects bottom line.

America borrows money, PDP borrowed money, APC has been and continues to borrow money.

Why has APCs borrowing not translated to an improved standard of living for the average Nigerian ?
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