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Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 6:22am On Aug 06, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
How JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES were called in times past:
• Abraham descendants: after establishing the covenant between Him and Abraham servants of God were referred to as Abraham's descendants yet not all Abraham's children are faithful so the history of Abraham's other seven sons was discontinued in the scriptures except Isaac!
• Israelites: after Jacob's descendants became numerous in the land of Egypt they were known as Israelites but not all Jacob's children remain faithful so God's blessings follows only three tribes of Israel namely Judah, Benjamin and Levi known as Jews till today!
• Jews: from the time of Rehoboam the son of Solomon three southern tribes of Israel stood with him because of the promises God made to David regarding the Messiah that he will be born from the lineage of David but not all Jews were faithful so God kept His promises to the house of David until the arrival of the Messiah and after the Christ (Messiah) only few Jews remain faithful to God's promises and they were referred to as those belonging to the WAY because the young man (Jesus) who proved to be the Christ called himself "the WAY"
• Christians: After members of "the WAY" were noticed in an ancient city called Antioch they were called "Christians" and that's the last name faithful people were called along with faithless miscreants till the year 1931 when God through the mouth of one of his servants declared the GROUP name for all His faithful WORSHIPERS right from the time of Abel till
today that GROUP NAME is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
So throughout history JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES has been called by different GROUP names each time they gather as an organization but God hid that name from Satan's agents until the year 1931! Isaiah 65:15
But unlike ancient times when Satan's agents often turn God's organization upside down it is now impossible for Satan and his agents so instead of leaving God's organization they keep accusing the same organization claiming it's a cult yet they remain there worshiping with the so called "CULT"
Judgement is coming and Jehovah has recorded the names of all Jehovah's Witnesses right from the time of Abel until the first century! Hebrews 11:4-34; 12:1 compare to Malachi 3:16
smiley
lost false jw mad max

groups also call themselves names such as; "the latter day saints"

it doesn't mean that they are,
you have been blinded:

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by StillDtruth: 7:49am On Aug 06, 2024
Boomark:
What posted is off point. You can type out the scripture you quoted so that the world will know it is off point.

I didn't see where Jesus said past worshippers are Christians in it.
The world has seen it, even if you pretend not to see it.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by MightySparrow: 8:57am On Aug 06, 2024
Boomark:
Even Jesus Christ came from nowhere (according to the Pharisees) to see people who are called teachers wallowing in ignorance.

In other words, you are telling us that all Israelites of old before Christ are Christians because it is the same spirit that gave them the laws they are following? They all knew and preached about the coming of the Christ. Like the sameritan woman is a Christian, John 4:25. Abi?

The chief priest, scribes, and Pharisees are Christians who killed their Christ and are busy persecuting and killing Christians for refusing to follow Christian laws handed to them by the same spirit? Beautiful.

Saul who later became Paul was a zealous Christian killing and persecuting another type Christian group for not following what the same spirit told them? Wonders shall never end.

And in summary you are saying that it is Christians that killed Christ. Same spirit gave them the laws they are defending.

The prophets who are still making enquiries of the salvation yet to come are Christians even without knowing the name Jesus through which they can be saved?

The spirit of Christ is the same as the spirit of God. Same spirit that God gave him. He received this same spirit from the his God. So Originally, it the spirit of God. Same spirit from God.

‭Isaiah 42:1-5 HCSB‬
[1] “This is My Servant; I strengthen Him, this is My Chosen One; I delight in Him. I have put My Spirit on Him; He will bring justice to the nations. [2] He will not cry out or shout or make His voice heard in the streets. [3] He will not break a bruised reed, and He will not put out a smoldering wick; He will faithfully bring justice. [4] He will not grow weak or be discouraged until He has established justice on earth. The islands will wait for His instruction.” [5] This is what God, Yahweh, says — who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and what comes from it, who gives breath to the people on it and life to those who walk on it —

Jesus our Lord, the servant of the Most High God confirmed it in Matthew 12

‭Matthew 12:16-21 HCSB‬
[16] He warned them not to make Him known, [17] so that what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: [18] Here is My Servant whom I have chosen, My beloved in whom My soul delights; I will put My Spirit on Him, and He will proclaim justice to the nations. [19] He will not argue or shout, and no one will hear His voice in the streets. [20] He will not break a bruised reed, and He will not put out a smoldering wick, until He has led justice to victory. [21] The nations will put their hope in His name.

Not knowing that the Holy Spirit of God can also be referred to as spirit of Christ is the reason why you believe the false teaching of Christians killing Christ and other Christians.
I am just discovering another dishonest JW. Why not refute the scripture qouted?
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Prosper1912: 12:45pm On Aug 06, 2024
The difference is clear as seen in 2 Timothy 4:2-5
One like teaching that suit the ear while the other follow teaching that is guided by the Bible.

Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Boomark(m): 1:20pm On Aug 06, 2024
MightySparrow:
I am just discovering another dishonest JW. Why not refute the scripture qouted?
I am glad that what I posted killed the error you believed in. I am still preparing a shocking response for you and your friend Emusan on the witness of Christ. Something that no man can oppose.

The spirit of God is that same spirit of Christ which was given to him by God this Father. Same spirit. No problem with the scripture.

The heresy I refuted came in your own words, saying that people of old who prophesied and preached about the coming of Jesus Christ are Christians. This is heresy and has no scriptural backup for anyone to even refute.

Your heresy means that all Israelite who knew and taught their children about the coming of Jesus Christ are Christians because they preached the message Christ coming, message of the future salvation.

The chief priests, the high priests and all those who killed Christ are his Christians because the same spirit gave them the law they are practicing. Saul was a Christian who persecuted other types of Christians?

King Saul and king David are all Christians. My brother this your heresy no get part 2.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Boomark(m): 1:27pm On Aug 06, 2024
StillDtruth:
The world has seen it, even if you pretend not to see it.
Hahaha. It is only darkness that has it. Human beings are yet to see. You have nothing to post because such a thing does not exist.

People are now believing things they cannot defend. Smh.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by StillDtruth: 2:13pm On Aug 06, 2024
Boomark:
Hahaha. It is only darkness that has it. Human beings are yet to see. You have nothing to post because such a thing does not exist.

People are now believing things they cannot defend. Smh.
Something that has already being defended yet you are the only one who did not see it. Clearly you are blind which is why you confessed that is only darkness you see.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by achorladey: 2:30pm On Aug 06, 2024
Prosper1912:
The difference is clear as seen in 2 Timothy 4:2-5
One like teaching that suit the ear while the other follow teaching that is guided by the Bible.
Teaching like Jesus returned invisibly in 1914 and bought a religious organization created by Russell and declared them the only better performing performance group doing God's will grin grin grin
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by MightySparrow:
Boomark:
I am glad that what I posted killed the error you believed in. I am still preparing a shocking response for you and your friend Emusan on the witness of Christ. Something that no man can oppose.

The spirit of God is that same spirit of Christ which was given to him by God this Father. Same spirit. No problem with the scripture.

The heresy I refuted came in your own words, saying that people of old who prophesied and preached about the coming of Jesus Christ are Christians. This is heresy and has no scriptural backup for anyone to even refute.

Your heresy means that all Israelite who knew and taught their children about the coming of Jesus Christ are Christians because they preached the message Christ coming, message of the future salvation.

The chief priests, the high priests and all those who killed Christ are his Christians because the same spirit gave them the law they are practicing. Saul was a Christian who persecuted other types of Christians?

King Saul and king David are all Christians. My brother this your heresy no get part 2.
The first time you claimed Jesus was wrong by refuting Acts 1:8. Later you refuted 1 Peter 1 10 - 11.
Instead of whining, just give your explanation of the two passages.


You are not responding.......

Rev.14.6 - And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,


Explain the bolded.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Boomark(m): 7:14pm On Aug 06, 2024
StillDtruth:
Something that has already being defended yet you are the only one who did not see it. Clearly you are blind which is why you confessed that is only darkness you see.
I don't follow the multitude passing through the broadway. I use scriptures to annihilate and destroy heresies and false doctrines. You can't post anything because I have already damaged the error you are believing. Tell those who defended that that I have arrived and they are going to start afresh.

I have another shocker for you people. I will invite you. See how people are holding unto antichrist doctrine.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by StillDtruth: 7:46pm On Aug 06, 2024
Boomark:
I don't follow the multitude passing through the broadway. I use scriptures to annihilate and destroy heresies and false doctrines. You can't post anything because I have already damaged the error you are believing. Tell those who defended that that I have arrived and they are going to start afresh.

I have another shocker for you people. I will invite you. See how people are holding unto antichrist doctrine.
I used scriptures to answer you and you said you did not see it! That is the definition of blindnesss. So, you have an eye sight problem.

Possibly, when we see that you can see, then we can begin ascertaining whether what you see, is valid or not.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Boomark(m): 7:46pm On Aug 06, 2024
MightySparrow:
The first time you claimed Jesus was wrong by refuting Acts 1:8. Later you refuted 1 Peter 1 10 - 11.
Instead of whining, just give your explanation of the two passages.
Show me where I claimed Jesus was wrong.

Anytime I say 'show me' liers panic and 99.999% of the people who lack evidence will continue fumbling or disappear.

The answer to the scripture is that the Holy Spirit of God which is also known as spirit of Christ which which God gave to Jesus Christ revealed the coming if Jesus Christ to the prophet of old.

The apostle use spirit of Christ and later added same spirit just to show you that the spirit that worked in the prophets, and the spirit that God gave to Christ and the spirit that possessed Samson are the same spirit you can call different names.
If you now come and start saying that Samson is a christian, know that you cannot defend such heresy.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Emusan(m): 7:52pm On Aug 06, 2024
Boomark:
I am glad that what I posted killed the error you believed in. I am still preparing a shocking response for you and your friend Emusan on the witness of Christ. Something that no man can oppose.
You're still preparing yet you're boasting.

well I know your type and I'm waiting for you.

But don't forget to support your claim with Bible verse(s)
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Boomark(m): 8:13pm On Aug 06, 2024
StillDtruth:
I used scriptures to answer you and you said you did not see it! That is the definition of blindnesss. So, you have an eye sight problem.

Possibly, when we see that you can see, then we can begin ascertaining whether what you see, is valid or not.
You are lying. False teachers always lie.
See picture of what I asked you do and you are here lying.

So the world have seen it chapter 1:1 is the scripture I asked you to type out and show me where Christ called past people Christians?

My brother it is better you keep quiet and learn. No lier in the name of Christ will enter the kingdom of God. Those who prophesied and perform miracles in his name didn't make it, how much more ordinary liars. Matthew 7:21-23. Meditate on this.

Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Boomark(m): 8:15pm On Aug 06, 2024
Emusan:
You're still preparing yet you're boasting.

well I know your type and I'm waiting for you.

But don't forget to support your claim with Bible verse(s)
Yeah, lots of verses.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Emusan(m): 8:17pm On Aug 06, 2024
Boomark:
Yeah, lots of verses.
Waiting!!!
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by StillDtruth: 8:38pm On Aug 06, 2024
Boomark:
You are lying. False teachers always lie.
See picture of what I asked you do and you are here lying.

So the world have seen it chapter 1:1 is the scripture I asked you to type out and show me where Christ called past people Christians?

My brother it is better you keep quiet and learn. No lier in the name of Christ will enter the kingdom of God. Those who prophesied and perform miracles in his name didn't make it, how much more ordinary liars. Matthew 7:21-23. Meditate on this.
You are the one Lying in your bid to teach and promote your error. This is a thread, and everything said or not said is already captured here, so making a pic is absolutely a nullity and will not give you an oppurtunity to reargue what you lied and said you did not see, whereas, the thread clearly shows it.

Thank God you already know what would happen to Liars!
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:43pm On Aug 06, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
How JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES were called in times past:

• Abraham descendants: after establishing the covenant between Him and Abraham servants of God were referred to as Abraham's descendants yet not all Abraham's children are faithful so the history of Abraham's other seven sons was discontinued in the scriptures except Isaac!

• Israelites: after Jacob's descendants became numerous in the land of Egypt they were known as Israelites but not all Jacob's children remain faithful so God's blessings follows only three tribes of Israel namely Judah, Benjamin and Levi known as Jews till today!

• Jews: from the time of Rehoboam the son of Solomon three southern tribes of Israel stood with him because of the promises God made to David regarding the Messiah that he will be born from the lineage of David but not all Jews were faithful so God kept His promises to the house of David until the arrival of the Messiah and after the Christ (Messiah) only few Jews remain faithful to God's promises and they were referred to as those belonging to the WAY because the young man (Jesus) who proved to be the Christ called himself "the WAY"

• Christians: After members of "the WAY" were noticed in an ancient city called Antioch they were called "Christians" and that's the last name faithful people were called along with faithless miscreants till the year 1931 when God through the mouth of one of his servants declared the GROUP name for all His faithful WORSHIPERS right from the time of Abel till today that GROUP NAME is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

So throughout history JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES has been called by different GROUP names each time they gather as an organization but God hid that name from Satan's agents until the year 1931! Isaiah 65:15

But unlike ancient times when Satan's agents often turn God's organization upside down it is now impossible for Satan and his agents so instead of leaving God's organization they keep accusing the same organization claiming it's a cult yet they remain there worshiping with the so called "CULT"


Judgement is coming and Jehovah has recorded the names of all Jehovah's Witnesses right from the time of Abel until the first century! Hebrews 11:4-34; 12:1 compare to Malachi 3:16 smiley
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Boomark(m): 9:29pm On Aug 06, 2024
StillDtruth:
You are the one Lying in your bid to teach and promote your error. This is a thread, and everything said or not said is already captured here, so making a pic is absolutely a nullity and will not give you an oppurtunity to reargue what you lied and said you did not see, whereas, the thread clearly shows it.

Thank God you already know what would happen to Liars!
Have you seen how you people lie and always say what you don't know with assurance.

Someone quoted a page from here in another thread. I replied that particular post and left. That's how I joined here.

So after learning everything from this topic you still find it difficult to show where Christ said past worshippers are Christians? You didn't learn anything or maybe you are just waiting for opportunity to lie.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Emusan(m): 2:27pm On Aug 07, 2024
Boomark:
There is nothing brilliant about this if you don't know what they are actually witnessing about Christ.
In you own view after reading the OP, is there any differences between Christian and Jehovah Witness?
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by StillDtruth: 2:44pm On Aug 07, 2024
Boomark:
Have you seen how you people lie and always say what you don't know with assurance.

Someone quoted a page from here in another thread. I replied that particular post and left. That's how I joined here.

So after learning everything from this topic you still find it difficult to show where Christ said past worshippers are Christians? You didn't learn anything or maybe you are just waiting for opportunity to lie.
Who cares how you came here? grin

The thread shows everything we said including where you lied that you did not see it because you have an eyesight probllem..

So go.and repair your eyes so that you can see it. And repeating yourself just proves that you truly have an eye problem.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Boomark(m): 4:03pm On Aug 07, 2024
Emusan:
In you own view after reading the OP, is there any differences between Christian and Jehovah Witness?
True Christianns are Jehovah's witnesses. Those who don't witness for both Jehovah God and the Son Jesus are antichrist, 1 Jn 2:22-23.

I am not talking about a church named Jehovah's witnesses or a church named Christian.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Boomark(m): 4:08pm On Aug 07, 2024
StillDtruth:
Who cares how you came here? grin

The thread shows everything we said including where you lied that you did not see it because you have an eyesight probllem..

So go.and repair your eyes so that you can see it. And repeating yourself just proves that you truly have an eye problem.
The thread shows, the thread shows... Don't you have anything to show others after the thread have shown you?

That is why I have landed so all of you will start afresh. It is now very obvious that nobody learnt anything except, the thread shows.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by StillDtruth: 4:31pm On Aug 07, 2024
Boomark:
The thread shows, the thread shows... Don't you have anything to show others after the thread have shown you?

That is why I have landed so all of you will start afresh. It is now very obvious that nobody learnt anything except, the thread shows.
Hahahahahaha 😆😆 The "the thread shows everything" has taken care of all that so go fix your eyes maybe after that, you will see. 😆😆😆😆
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Emusan(m): 4:47pm On Aug 07, 2024
Boomark:
True Christianns are Jehovah's witnesses.
That's nice!

Do you agree with statement "So just as some worshipers of God in ancient times turned their backs on pure worship a Christian too may turn back from following the Way of holiness but a Witness of Jehovah will never ever turn back no matter what happens!"

Those who don't witness for both Jehovah God and the Son Jesus are antichrist, 1 Jn 2:22-23

I am not talking about a church named Jehovah's witnesses or a church named Christian.
Okay
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Boomark(m): 8:37pm On Aug 07, 2024
Emusan:
That's nice!

Do you agree with statement "So just as some worshipers of God in ancient times turned their backs on pure worship a Christian too may turn back from following the Way of holiness but a Witness of Jehovah will never ever turn back no matter what happens!"



Okay
No. I don't agree with of the last part concerning "witness of Jehovah."
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Boomark(m): 8:55pm On Aug 07, 2024
StillDtruth:
Hahahahahaha 😆😆 The "the thread shows everything" has taken care of all that so go fix your eyes maybe after that, you will see. 😆😆😆😆
Those who are called by God are good bold teachers and preachers. Not hiding anything.

So my friend, with humility in my heart, please show me from the thread where past worshippers of God were called Christians in the bible.

Please don't send me away as if you don't know anything. I know you know something so show me.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by StillDtruth: 4:18am On Aug 08, 2024
Boomark:
Those who are called by God are good bold teachers and preachers. Not hiding anything.

So my friend, with humility in my heart, please show me from the thread where past worshippers of God were called Christians in the bible.

Please don't send me away as if you don't know anything. I know you know something so show me.
I have boldly stated what i know to be true in the thread and you said you did not see it, Thst definitely means you.have an eye problem, so go see visit the optrician first, then read the thread again if you like.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Emusan(m): 9:28am On Aug 08, 2024
Boomark:
No. I don't agree with of the last part concerning "witness of Jehovah."
The person who opened this thread is Jws and he has been promoting such heretic teaching.

He is know for badmouthing the name CHRISTIAN even when Watchtower dare not to.

Screenshots below speak more about the issue.

Then you can understand the reason for this thread.

What do you have to say?
Or you can ask him if he is also a Christian with evidence below.

NOTE: The BASTARDIZED and CURSED old group name is the name CHRISTIAN

Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:13am On Aug 08, 2024
Emusan:
The person who opened this thread is Jws and he has been promoting such heretic teaching.
He is know for badmouthing the name CHRISTIAN even when Watchtower dare not to. Screenshots below speak more about the issue. Then you can understand the reason for this thread. What do you have to say? Or you can ask him if he is also a Christian with evidence below.
NOTE: The BASTARDIZED and CURSED old group name is the name CHRISTIAN
YES!
The group name "CHRISTIANS" has been CURSED and BASTARDIZED that's why you can't mention the name of your church as your so called PASTORS are condemning their fellow believers in their teachings even though they're all claiming "CHRISTIANS"

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES will speak with one voice to condemn the blunder of a backslider not teachings that binds us together as one.

So if you find anyone speaking against what we teach ask him to mention the name of his church and see him or her silenced.


WHY?

There is no church with a unique teaching that members can be proud of except Jehovah's Witnesses!

So what happens to others claiming Christians?

They have brought a CURSE onto that name "CHRISTIANS" due to the contradictions among them such can't exist among God's own people that's why the true God gave us a group name that unites all His true worshipers:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

No matter how pained you can be that's the undeniable truth! smiley

Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Emusan(m): 2:18pm On Aug 08, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
YES!
The group name "CHRISTIANS" has been CURSED and BASTARDIZED that's why you can't mention the name of your church as your so called PASTORS are condemning their fellow believers in their teachings even though they're all claiming "CHRISTIANS"

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES will speak with one voice to condemn the blunder of a backslider not teachings that binds us together as one.

So if you find anyone speaking against what we teach ask him to mention the name of his church and see him or her silenced.


WHY?

There is no church with a unique teaching that members can be proud of except Jehovah's Witnesses!

So what happens to others claiming Christians?

They have brought a CURSE onto that name "CHRISTIANS" due to the contradictions among them such can't exist among God's own people that's why the true God gave us a group name that unites all His true worshipers:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

No matter how pained you can be that's the undeniable truth! smiley
So are you a Christian?
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:52pm On Aug 08, 2024
Emusan:
So are you a Christian?
You are not but claiming that's why i will not sit on the same bench with you so call me whatever you want, i know my brothers in the faith! wink
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