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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 8:18am On Aug 09, 2024
Kingsempires:
Hmm!!
Oga, check where i criticize any jws on this thread or do you just want to bring my comment on another thread like the way you did above.oga i don't hate jws the one thing i hate in them is that they see other christian denomination fake and sees their selves as the true religion of God
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:44am On Aug 09, 2024
Kingsempires:
Hmm!!
Well i'm sorry for being harsh, please remove the thoughtless speech and focus on what is beneficial!
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:05am On Aug 09, 2024
Kingsempires:
Oga, check where i criticize any jws on this thread or do you just want to bring my comment on another thread like the way you did above.oga i don't hate jws the one thing i hate in them is that they see other christian denomination fake and sees their selves as the true religion of God
No JW will walk up to you to condemn you but we will not welcome you as our fellow believer if you're not in agreement with what we believe.
Can you stand in front of Francis the Pope of Roman Catholic Church to criticize what the church believes and still expect him to see you as his fellow believer?

So we don't condemn people rather we are against false religions!
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 10:23am On Aug 09, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
No JW will walk up to you to condemn you but we will not welcome you as our fellow believer if you're not in agreement with what we believe.
Can you stand in front of Francis the Pope of Roman Catholic Church to criticize what the church believes and still expect him to see you as his fellow believer?

So we don't condemn people rather we are against false religions!
Ok , let me take it like that cheesy
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:30am On Aug 09, 2024
Kingsempires:
Ok , let me take it like that cheesy
So take it like that just as your Pope will not welcome someone who doesn't accept what his church teaches as his fellow believer! smiley
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 3:34pm On Aug 11, 2024
johnw47:
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God

1. God beget the Word, 2. the Word is God,
what God beget is God, what God made (angel) is not God

what man begets is man, what man makes is not man


God begat the Word:
1Jn_4:9  By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him.

the Word is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
You quoted John 1:1.
Where did you see "IS" @ John 1:1?

Man begets another man, another being not himself.


LYING is inseparable from trinitarians.
grin

johnw47:
being born is sometimes said to be created, but they are diffrent;
being born is to be part of the one who beget you, being created is to be bought into
existance through God's Word.
in adam's case the Word made adam from the dust of the ground,
and the Word made eve from adam's rib

it could be said i created a small lake on my property, but actually
i made a small lake on my property using my bulldozer
Psalm 90:2 "God born the mountains "

In your own Bible born means created.
John double W LYING miscreant.


johnw47:
God is a Spirit, the Word is the same Spirit as His Father

just like i am the same dna as my parents
Your Trinitarian mentors said Jesus Christ is the 2nd person, the 2nd spirit different from the first spirit, his Father.
Different from that ghost, they said is their 3rd person.

DNA (for the layman) means you resemble your parents or Father.
DNA does not mean you are your father.

John double W LYING miscreant.

grin
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 3:39pm On Aug 11, 2024
johnw47:
God and the Word are God beings. i and my father are human beings
In a nutshell, John W is a polytheist worshipping more than 2 different beings, his God beings.


Idol worshippers.
Confirmed by the screenshots.
grin grin

Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 3:43pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
In a nutshell, John W is a polytheist worshipping more than 2 different beings, his God beings.


Idol worshippers.
Confirmed by the screenshots.
grin grin
trouble maker
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 3:44pm On Aug 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
So take it like that just as your Pope will not welcome someone who doesn't accept what his church teaches as his fellow believer! smiley
let God be the Judge
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 3:52pm On Aug 11, 2024
Ken4Christ:
My God is only mysterious to carnal people like you. You don't have the capacity to receive spiritual truths because you don't have the Spirit of God.
Your Trinitarian mentors are carnal people, according to your claim.

Your Trinitarian mentors invented their mystery & held you captive.

Pastor ,why do you disgrace your Trinitarian mentors?

grin grin
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 3:54pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
trouble maker
Oga,nah your fellow Trinitarian posted those screenshots on Facebook.

Please Go and confirm it for yourself.
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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 4:02pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
Oga,nah your fellow Trinitarian posted those screenshots on Facebook.

Please Go and confirm it for yourself.
grin grin grin
Let God be the one to judge the world
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 4:18pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
Anybody that is saying that Jesus is an angel or is not God is not a christian,that person is another religion person on his-her own
Your fellow Trinitarians (since the time of Martin Luther) have confessed that Jesus your deity is archangel Michael.

Why is the same ghost giving all of you conflicting information?

grin grin
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 4:27pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
Your fellow Trinitarians (since the time of Martin Luther) have confessed that Jesus your deity is archangel Michael.

Why is the same ghost giving all of you conflicting information?

grin grin
oga leave me alone cool everybody knows the way he/she knows God na this nairaland were I see very stubborn debaters the only thing I want to start doing on nairaland is to be asking questions that I don't understand. Because I have noticed that the are people on this nairaland that have knowledge very well about religion
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Ken4Christ: 4:31pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
Your Trinitarian mentors are carnal people, according to your claim.

Your Trinitarian mentors invented their mystery & held you captive.

Pastor ,why do you disgrace your Trinitarian mentors?

grin grin
Receive the free gift of salvation that is in Christ alone and have peace.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 4:35pm On Aug 11, 2024
Ken4Christ:
Receive the free gift of salvation that is in Christ alone and have peace.
it is really a free gift
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 4:49pm On Aug 11, 2024
Ken4Christ:
The Deity of Christ unveiled all over the scriptures. Only a blind man will read through the statements of Jesus and not be convinced is is God in human flesh.

He had power to forgive sins which no human could do.

He had the power to give eternal life which no human could do.
That same power that Jesus & John said does not belong to Jesus, John 17:7

Oga, you are deceiving yourself.
grin

Ken4Christ:
He had the power to raise himself from the dead which no human could do.
Acts 2:31-36, Peter the apostle confirmed that Ken is LYING.

Ken4Christ:
He had the power to ascend back to heaven which no human could do.

He made statements which no human ever made or could have make.

He said

I am the way, the truth and the life.

I am the bread of life.

I am the living water.

I am the first and the last.

Before Abraham was, I am

He who has seen me as seen the Father.
You are deceiving & misleading yourself with your false interpretation of the holy scriptures.

John 14:24, Jesus Christ and John have rebuke your delusion.
Jesus is not his Father, rather Jesus is preaching the words he received from his Father who sent Christ.

Ken4Christ:
Angels worshipped him. Humans worshipped Him. Demons flee at the mention of his name.
Greek proskyneu , original meaning was prostrate, or kneeling to greet a elderly person or monarch.

When applied to Jesus, proskyneu means prostrate or bow down (the manner Yorubas greet their Kabiyesi or monarch).
You are not worshipping Jesus or your monarch.
Illiterate pastor deceiving himself grin

Ken4Christ:
Humans were created. Jesus is the creator.

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

I could go on and on. The evidences are overwhelming.

Illiterate pastor TWISTING John 1:3, what is the meaning of Greek "dia antou" @ John 1:3. 1 Corinthians 8:6 & Hebrew 1:2?

You know nothing except deceiving & misleading gullible folks.
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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 4:52pm On Aug 11, 2024
Ken4Christ:
The Jehovah Witness are not Christians. They are anti Christ. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light.
Says the illiterate pastor worshipping 3 deities invented by men .
grin
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 4:55pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
I guess there are the anti Christ that was said in the bible

Oga polytheist,After you read both screenshots again.

Go and follow your Trinitarian mentors & that illiterate pastor deceiving you.
grin

Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:02pm On Aug 11, 2024
Ken4Christ:
Destruction is in hell and Lake of fire. It doesn't mean cessation of existence. Otherwise the beast and the false prophet cast into the Lake fire in Revelation 19;20 would have ceased to exist. But they were acknowledged to still be there after 1,000 years of Jesus reing. And Satan was also cast in there. I have cited these references to you before but you still held on to the lies established by Russell and Rutherford who are obviously both in hell.
Destruction meaning "cessation of existence".


Illiterate pastor misleading himself, according to his dictionary.

grin grin

Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:06pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
People were call their self christians by does'nt believe that Jesuschrist is God.
kings empires & illiterate pastor,People who call themselves Christ followers have no faith in Revelation 3:12 & Matthew 16:13-17, that Jesus Christ is a worshipper of our God in heaven the revelation Jesus Christ shared to them.
grin
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:13pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
let God be the Judge
If God be the judge then your Pope shouldn't disagree with whatever others teach about God! smiley
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:16pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
leave them make them dey twist the bible grin
According to your own Bible,Acts chapter 9 verse 3 to 30, Paul the apostle converted by Jesus Christ, which group did Paul fellowship with after conversion?

Did Paul believe in John chapter 3:16-18?

Please continue WAILING and deceiving yourselves.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:22pm On Aug 11, 2024
Ken4Christ:
The first step is to receive eternal life. And this life is in Jesus. The invitation to receive eternal or everlasting life is not mysterious. It's as simple as learning ABC. Just believe in your heart that Jesus died for you and confess with your mouth that he is your Lord and Saviour. And you will be saved. You will receive eternal life. But you have rejected this simple message of the scripture. Instead you are following the false teachings of Russell and Rutherford. So, you have decided to abide in spiritual death. The end of people who reject the gospel of our Lord Jesus is hell and Lake of fire.
The first step to receive eternal life,according to Jesus Christ is John 17:3.
*1. Knowledge of the God who sent Jesus.

*2. Knowledge of Jesus the Son sent by the God in heaven.
Shout upandan "Jesus is my Lord and personal saviour" & neglect the instructions of John 17:3, you're wasting your time.

John 17:3 is another big blow against Trinity.
grin grin
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:30pm On Aug 11, 2024
Ken4Christ:
You reject the revelation of Jesus and uphold the word of a man spoken in ignorance. Who told you that everything you read in Ecclesiastes is divine revelation from God?

Illiterate pastor, please Go & convince your fellow Trinitarian,Oga Steep that Ecclesiastes according to you,is not divine revelation.

Nah the same ghost give una conflicting, contradictory information.
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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:42pm On Aug 11, 2024
Tetraozonaitera:
Saul sought the help of the Witch of Endor to summon the Spirit of Samuel. The Spirit cursed Saul eventually.
No Sir.
Why would God chose a Witch (satanic practice condemned by God, Exodus 22:18) to reveal info to disobedient Saul?
No nau.

The witch summon a demon to communicate with Saul.
Apparently God made Samuel to reject communication with Saul (due to Saul's disobedience) while Samuel was alive .
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky:
Tetraozonaitera:
To answer your question:

ISAIAH 52:5-7

5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
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I think you meant to say: Phillipians 2:6 not Isaiah....
Phillipians 2:6 Mounce Greek interlinear. NWT & NASB are correct renditions devoid of Trinitarian bias.
Please see the screenshots evidence.

John 14:28 & Revelation 3:12, Christ confirmed there is equality with his God & Father does not exist.
Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 11:3 inspired by holy spirit.
@ Phillipians 2:6, Paul never made any allusion to equality.

Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Tetraozonaitera: 7:57pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
I think you meant to say: Phillipians 2:6 not Isaiah....
Phillipians 2:6 Mounce Greek interlinear. NWT & NASB are correct renditions devoid of Trinitarian bias.
Please see the screenshots evidence.

John 14:28 & Revelation 3:12, Christ confirmed there is nothing like equality with his God & Father.
Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 11:3 inspired by holy spirit.
@ Phillipians 2:6, Paul never made any allusion to equality.
Good points
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 8:08pm On Aug 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
If God be the judge then your Pope shouldn't disagree with whatever others teach about God! smiley
so which teaching should he agree of
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 8:15pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:

Oga polytheist,After you read both screenshots again.

Go and follow your Trinitarian mentors & that illiterate pastor deceiving you.
grin
who you come dey call illiterate pastor?
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 9:39pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
who you come dey call illiterate pastor?
The one wey read John 1:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6 & Hebrew 1:2 without understanding the important Greek word "dia antou" in all the 3 verses but still come Nairaland dey type GIBBERISH.
grin
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 9:53pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
The one wey read John 1:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6 & Hebrew 1:2 without understanding the important Greek word "dia antou" in all the 3 verses but still come Nairaland dey type GIBBERISH.
grin
so explain how you understood the chapters and verses that he quoted here
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