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liveLongNprospa:
Honestly at some point, this whole AI detection tools will be useless because why should I be queried for using AI tools to achieve a goal.

I was watching this Google Gemini presentation and honestly AI presents alot of questions especially in regards to learning.

How will the education sector embrace use of AI say 10yrs from now

Spy360:
Dangote is notorious for being harsh to Nigeirans himself. I believe that's where he is having issues with policy makers and public analysts.

He sells cement higher than international market, etc . He cannot be trusted as a business always wants to be spoon-fed.

Ibime:
If we agree Nigerians deserve subsidy, the subsidy to should come at the point of the final supplier (Dangote). If we say PMS should be sold at N500 per litre, then there should be a single payment from Govt to Dangote reflecting the difference between the price Dangote can sell abroad and N500

Flowing the subsidy mechanism through multiple IOCs at the point of crude extraction is messy accounting

Dangote is simply filling in the gap of the previous PMS importers. Multiple IOCs cannot be writing down their revenue to account for subsidy, they are not party to the subsidy agreement between Nigerians and FG, only the final supplier of PMS is part of that arrangement

BlueRayDick:
Let me ask you a question: Why do u think Dangote refinery is considering setting up a London based trading arm?

If crude oil business is as simple as " If crude is 1 barrel per $80, then sell to me because u have the product" ; why do u think oil and gas companies set up trading offices in Dubai, London, etc.? These are trading offices run by expats who are international trade specialists paid in dollars.

Do u feel those guys are paid hundreds of thousands in dollars to just sit down to do "willing buyer willing seller" ?

nihilistjnr:
The logical conclusion to your question is explored in Warhammer 40k, and the dark age of technology. It's not an IP most are familiar with, but I'm a huge fan of it.

Anyway 40k is set in the 41st millennium, and one of their plot lines explores something called a Standard Template Construct (STC) which is an AI so advanced thag it is capable of building anything you want based on preconfigured templates, from 3D printing spaceships to terraforming entire planets.

Now in the times before the current setting, humanity experienced a galactic level civil war, and most of their scientists, engineers and general STEM experts are dead.

So nobody knows how an STC works, only that it works, and when it doesn't work, nobody knows how to fix it, because nobody learnt how to build anything. The AI and software running their spaceships and general machinery are now being worshipped as Machine spirits because nobody knows how to code, or even the meaning of code, to the point where they look at basic software like a digital dash and consider it sorcery.

That's an extreme example, but this truly the danger of AI in its peak manifestation, and in general technological advancement as a whole.

In the UK now, they don't even sell cars with spare tyres anymore. If your car has a flat. You call someone out to fix it. And there's now a whole generation of people, my wife as an example, who have never changed a tyre before in their lives and would be stranded if that happened in say Nigeria, because she doesn't even know what a Jack looks like.

And that's the danger AI presents to learning.

nihilistjnr:
Blueraydick, The quality of your submissions is one reason I keep coming back to this thread.

Your (and GloriousGbola's) analysis of this NNPC dangote issue carry good medal walahi

GloriousGbola:
i also picked something else from what ibime wrote, nigeria is not dangotes sole market. so if dangote get crude oil at a subsidized rate and then sells his pms at global market rates, he is simply gaming the system - as he will not be selling to nigeria alone.

this may also be the difference in his relations between tinubu and buharis admin. buhari is not a businessman, has no experience in business beyond his 150 cows, is socialist through and through and can easily be lambaed into believing that dangote will not make a killing from selling subsidized pms on the international market at market rates. Tinubu did work in the oil industry t the financial numbers level, tinubu is a business man , tinubu understands no altruism in the jungle and will not allow for a scenario where nigeria subidizes dangotes profit before tax.

nihilistjnr:
The logical conclusion to your question is explored in Warhammer 40k, and the dark age of technology. It's not an IP most are familiar with, but I'm a huge fan of it.

Anyway 40k is set in the 41st millennium, and one of their plot lines explores something called a Standard Template Construct (STC) which is an AI so advanced thag it is capable of building anything you want based on preconfigured templates, from 3D printing spaceships to terraforming entire planets.

Now in the times before the current setting, humanity experienced a galactic level civil war, and most of their scientists, engineers and general STEM experts are dead.

So nobody knows how an STC works, only that it works, and when it doesn't work, nobody knows how to fix it, because nobody learnt how to build anything. The AI and software running their spaceships and general machinery are now being worshipped as Machine spirits because nobody knows how to code, or even the meaning of code, to the point where they look at basic software like a digital dash and consider it sorcery.

That's an extreme example, but this truly the danger of AI in its peak manifestation, and in general technological advancement as a whole.

In the UK now, they don't even sell cars with spare tyres anymore. If your car has a flat. You call someone out to fix it. And there's now a whole generation of people, my wife as an example, who have never changed a tyre before in their lives and would be stranded if that happened in say Nigeria, because she doesn't even know what a Jack looks like.

And that's the danger AI presents to learning.

GloriousGbola:
obligatory

however i think what will fk ai over is it is training itself on information already available

if we start relying on AI fully , there will be no more human content to train AI, at which point it is likely to just be regurgitation its own content

dont follow the warhammer universe, but i raise you the butlerian jihad

iamoyindamola:
AI tool should be a guide like assisting you to achieve your goal
If AI tells you 1+1 is 2 without you showing why it's 2
You are the useless one of AI
What majority of people do is to dump everything AI give them without doing anything
And it's not advisable to introduce AI to children until they reach 18

liveLongNprospa:
I agree but the issue is companies are racing towards that future.
With each update, AI assistants are doing even more.
Being integrated more.

So what then should be done?
Pressure the government to pressure the companies to find new use cases or otherwise stop this development trend.
We have alot of people who buy into this AI dream.
But let's leave that extreme future.
My question is mostly for the use of AI at this moment in learning and development.
Should there be limits or should it be embraced?
I mean AI is already being used in our jobs as part of our daily drivers.
So how e go be?

liveLongNprospa:
This is fair.
My issue is with the use of AI detection tools that flag you for using AI at all.
That's a waste of time at this point.

larride:
Seankafor

Ibime

Dogs will list on Aug 20th.

Okx and Bitget announced the listing already.

nihilistjnr:
Blueraydick, The quality of your submissions is one reason I keep coming back to this thread.

Your (and GloriousGbola's) analysis of this NNPC dangote issue carry good medal walahi

Ibime:
Bros all information that's needed about any dispute is contained in the price someone is willing to pay and another party is willing to sell. When they finish plenty talks, I believe someone will provide the calculation as to why there is an impasse, and I guarantee you the impasse is hinged around the price points to Dangote not being as profitable as selling abroad. Everything in life is arithmetic.

raumdeuter:
If Dangote is saying he is ready to buy at market price, then why is he insisting on buying from NNPC alone

If you are ready to buy shoes at market price, why insist on only from Izzous shop? If izzou no sell then go to seankafor

Abi I'm missing something

seankafor:
https://x.com/okx/status/1823645816474480841?t=LKsUcsDjjGx_bpufOEAkUg&s=19[/quote]Looking to see if Bybit and Binance will list it.

GloriousGbola:
You know izzou's uncle who apprenticed him na.

larride:
Seankafor

Ibime

Dogs will list on Aug 20th.

Okx and Bitget announced the listing already.

Ballzproblemm:
en go need gas fee? me no get gas fee o 😢

larride:
It should be gas less claim like Notcoin.

larride:
It should be gas less claim like Notcoin.

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iamoyindamola:
Lailai

larride:
It will. Na telegram get ham now.

Segedinho:
Na d opke wey want govern Edo bdis?

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BlueRayDick:
Do u have any video of this man speaking in the senate? If yes, please share I want to listen to him without the intermittent cut and join laughing videos

raumdeuter:
If Dangote is saying he is ready to buy at market price, then why is he insisting on buying from NNPC alone

If you are ready to buy shoes at market price, why insist on only from Izzous shop? If izzou no sell then go to seankafor

Abi I'm missing something

monerozi5590:
Yes sir, your are missing something. He is not insisting on buying from NNPC alone. He wants to buy from those IOCs in Nigeria, but the IOCs want to sell to him above market price and not even directly sef but from a third party.