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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:02pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
so which teaching should he agree of
If the disagreement of Jehovah's Witnesses with those who don't share our beliefs means judgement to you then the disagreement of your Pope with all other religions also means judgement.

That's why you need to know the meaning of whatever you quote in the Bible! smiley
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by johnw47: 10:03pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
In a nutshell, John W is a polytheist worshipping more than 2 different beings, his God beings.
Idol worshippers.
Confirmed by the screenshots.
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Janosky: You quoted John 1:1.
Where did you see "IS" @ John 1:1?
Man begets another man, another being not himself.

LYING is inseparable from trinitarians.
grin
Psalm 90:2 "God born the mountains "
In your own Bible born means created.
John double W LYING miscreant.
Your Trinitarian mentors said Jesus Christ is the 2nd person, the 2nd spirit different from the first spirit, his Father.
Different from that ghost, they said is their 3rd person.
DNA (for the layman) means you resemble your parents or Father.
DNA does not mean you are your father.
John double W LYING miscreant.
grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

wow, all that confusion and lies, of course:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by johnw47: 10:16pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
In a nutshell, John W is a polytheist worshipping more than 2 different beings, his God beings.
Idol worshippers.
Confirmed by the screenshots.
grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

truly lost and most dum fraud jw janosky

God and the word are God beings, and of course you cannot stop false accusing/lying, like your devil:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:27pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
so explain how you understood the chapters and verses that he quoted here

1 Corinthians 8:6 God his Father is the creator of EVERYTHING.
Jesus is a creature, the first born of God, sent into the world, Hebrew 1:6. Colossians 1:15.
In your Bible 'Father' meaning Senior.
The Father of Jesus senior Jesus in every sense. grin

Hebrew 1:2. John 1:3, God created the world through ( Greek dia antou) His Son, the agency of creation.

"Let us make man", God told his son. Genesis 1:26. Hebrew 1:2 is the evidence.


Genesis 1:27 = 1 Corinthians 8:6, God created EVERYTHING through His Son, Hebrews 1:2. John 1:3.

Job 38:1-7, God said His Sons (angels) in heaven rejoiced "shouted in applause", when HE created man.

Angels in heaven heard God telling his son (Jesus) "let us make man." Job 38:1-7 is the evidence.

Take note that Genesis 1:26 is misinterpreted by Trinitarians.
Because Genesis 1:27 proven that God (Yahweh) is One Supreme Being not 3 deities invented at Nicene
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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:30pm On Aug 11, 2024
johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

truly lost and most dum fraud jw janosky

God and the word are God beings, and of course you cannot stop false accusing/lying, like your devil:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Oga, carry your WAILING komot from this public forum.
John W is a polytheist worshipping 3 deities.


Your fellow Trinitarian first posted this screenshot evidence online

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by johnw47: 10:37pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
You quoted John 1:1.
Where did you see "IS" @ John 1:1?
lost fraud jw janosky

so you believe the Word was God but now is not God
you people are as dum as they come, aren't you

Janosky: Man begets another man, another being not himself.


LYING is inseparable from trinitarians.
grin
once again how dum can one be, man begets a son who is also a human being
God begets a Son who is also a God being, like i said

Janosky: Psalm 90:2 "God born the mountains "
In your own Bible born means created.
John double W LYING miscreant.
false accusing lost one, like i said; some see beget and created as the same, but there is a difference as i showed

Janosky: Your Trinitarian mentors said Jesus Christ is the 2nd person, the 2nd spirit different from the first spirit, his Father.
Different from that ghost, they said is their 3rd person.
very big dope, i don't have trinitarian mentors, but you will never stop lying, will you

Janosky: DNA (for the layman) means you resemble your parents or Father.
DNA does not mean you are your father.
John double W LYING miscreant.
grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky, did i say the Son is the Father, your confusion and lies know no bounds:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:39pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
Let God be the one to judge the world
This is how God rewards those He has judged worthy, please study Revelation 3:12.

Oga,What did your Jesus reveal to your heart in that verse?

grin grin
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 10:42pm On Aug 11, 2024
So janosky my question is who is Jesus to you
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by johnw47: 10:44pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
Oga, carry your WAILING komot from this public forum.
John W is a polytheist worshipping 3 deities.
Your fellow Trinitarian first posted this screenshot evidence online
grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

lost fraud jw janosky

so you keep saying/lying:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:50pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
So janosky my question is who is Jesus to you
Jesus himself asked his first century Jewish disciples and this is what happened:

When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.Matthew 16:13-17

What do you think about this conversation between Jesus and his disciples?
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:53pm On Aug 11, 2024
johnw47:
lost fraud jw janosky

so you believe the Word was God but now is not God
you people are as dum as they come, aren't you
Simple question:
FROM WHERE DID YOU IMPORT "is INTO JOHN 1:1?

John W capping GIBBERISH.
grin

johnw47:
once again how dum can one be, man begets a son who is also a human being
God begets a Son who is also a God being, like i said
John W worshipping more than 2 God beings.

Oga, what happened to your brain?

After all, the screenshot evidence is irrefutable.

grin grin

Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 10:53pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
This is how God rewards those He has judged worthy, please study Revelation 3:12.

Oga,What did your Jesus reveal to your heart in that verse?

grin grin
Men!!!, what did you want me to say; me and you are not believing the same thing .are you going to say that am going to hell for the way i believe God is or am I going to say that you will go to hell because of the way you believe God is huh that is why i said i leave everything for God to Judge so can't misunderstand my quote
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by johnw47:
Janosky:
John W is a polytheist worshipping 3 deities.
grin grin
Janosky:
Says the illiterate pastor worshipping 3 deities invented by men .
grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

you will forever love calling the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible
3 deities which is 3 god's, you will truly see your rewards:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:57pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
Men!!!, what did you want me to say; me and you are not believing the same thing .are you going to say that am going to hell for the way i believe God is or am I going to say that you will go to hell because of the way you believe God is huh that is why i said i leave everything for God to Judge so can't misunderstand my quote
Oga, Jesus said the statement of Revelation 3:12 in your own Bible.
Whether you accept or reject it, that's your choice.

Shalom
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 11:02pm On Aug 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus himself asked his first century Jewish disciples and this is what happened:

When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.Matthew 16:13-17

What do you think about this conversation between Jesus and his disciples?
peter's answer was son of the living God and he was correct. So what I understand there is that Jesus is the son of God if there is more explaination on the verse you can explain to me.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 11:08pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
So janosky my question is who is Jesus to you
According to Jesus Christ on earth,Matthew 16:13-17 on the earthly realm. Christ is the son/servant of God his Father (Senior).

According to Jesus Christ in heaven, Revelation 1:1 & Revelation 3:12, in the spiritual realm, Christ is the son not elevated to the position his God & Father ALONE occupies.

Let me point out a very significant point in these verses.

Jesus Christ said what you read about Christ in Matthew 16:13-17. Revelation 1:1 & Revelation 3:12 is REVEALED.



If you like, cling tight to the delusion invented at Nicene.
That's your cup of coffee.
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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by johnw47: 11:11pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
Simple question:
FROM WHERE DID YOU IMPORT "is INTO JOHN 1:1?
John W capping GIBBERISH.
grin
lost fraud jw janosky

most dum one, i never imported "is" i posted the verse with "was"
the Word was God in the beginning and the Word is God now, of course
just like i was born human and am human now


Janosky: John W worshipping more than 2 God beings.
Oga, what happened to your brain?
After all, the screenshot evidence is irrefutable.
grin grin
all you have is repeating your lies over and over again which is mental disease:
your madness is also known as:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

OCD is mental disease

lets not forget who your father is:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 11:13pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:
Oga, Jesus said the statement of Revelation 3:12 in your own Bible.
Whether you accept or reject it, that's your choice.

Shalom
so what is your explaination to this verse to what I quoted above huh
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 11:21pm On Aug 11, 2024
Kingsempires:
so what is your explaination to this verse to what I quoted above huh

In heaven,Jesus Christ said himself is a worshipper of "my God" in heaven.

Oga,what is your own explanation to Revelation 3:12?
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 11:58pm On Aug 11, 2024
Janosky:

In heaven,Jesus Christ said himself is a worshipper of "my God" in heaven.

Oga,what is your own explanation to Revelation 3:12?
So is there any part of the bible that said that if you worship Jesus you will go to hell ?
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:50am On Aug 12, 2024
Kingsempires:
peter's answer was son of the living God and he was correct. So what I understand there is that Jesus is the son of God. if there is more explaination on the verse you can explain to me.
There are many spirit sons of God according to the Bible {Job 38:7} the spirit that came to this planet and became Jesus lived in the spirit realms for uncountable years he is the first created spirit and later worked with his father in making all other things! Proverbs 8:22-30 compare to John 1:1-2
According to the Bible his name is Michael the Archangel. He is called the Archangel because he is the only one of his kind {Jude :9} he said when God was creating everything he was beside God like a master worker trained to do the job but out of all the things God created through him {Colossians 1:15-16} he preferred humans most {Proverbs 8:31} that's why he is ever ready to do whatever he could to save us from the curse of sin! Daniel 12:1-3

I can go on and on but you have to sit down and learn all of these through a Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses otherwise you will only continue claiming Christian with no knowledge of the Bible just like billions out there.

I was a Muslim when i met Jehovah's Witnesses and i can't quote anything in the Bible but today you can testify to what i can do with a copy of the Bible in my hand.

These are comments from those who had listened to me in fact they often make me feel like i know too much but i always tell them that they can know better than me if only they have a pure heart and willing to learn from the one and only organization God is using to educate people today. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

See their comments:

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.
Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.
Questionnaires:
Please, Tell Him.
Wiser One.
I hope they learn someday that their ways are not TRUE.
Their Eyes Are Closed.
Questionnaires:
There's Alot of Sense in What You Wrote.
Now; How Does The JW Prefer And Advise We Run A Country Like Nigeria ?
Questionnaires:
I want to.
You can let me know.
Questionnaires:
Surprisingly And Truthfully;
It's A Honour For You, King.
I'm Positioning Myself To Help Provide A Meeting Point For All Humanity. That We Should Love Our Neighbours As We Love Ourselves.
This Alone - Is The Greatest Treat For Humanity.
Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.
CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.

But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check
CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point
Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!
naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 8:11am On Aug 12, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
There are many spirit sons of God according to the Bible {Job 38:7} the spirit that came to this planet and became Jesus lived in the spirit realms for uncountable years he is the first created spirit and later worked with his father in making all other things! Proverbs 8:22-30 compare to John 1:1-2
According to the Bible his name is Michael the Archangel. He is called the Archangel because he is the only one of his kind {Jude :9} he said when God was creating everything he was beside God like a master worker trained to do the job but out of all the things God created through him {Colossians 1:15-16} he preferred humans most {Proverbs 8:31} that's why he is ever ready to do whatever he could to save us from the curse of sin! Daniel 12:1-3

I can go on and on but you have to sit down and learn all of these through a Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses otherwise you will only continue claiming Christian with no knowledge of the Bible just like billions out there.

I was a Muslim when i met Jehovah's Witnesses and i can't quote anything in the Bible but today you can testify to what i can do with a copy of the Bible in my hand.

These are comments from those who had listened to me in fact they often make me feel like i know too much but i always tell them that they can know better than me if only they have a pure heart and willing to learn from the one and only organization God is using to educate people today. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

See their comments:
but there were archangels in the Bible angel Gabriel was also an archangel in the bible so how is Jesus now angel Michael, what of archangel Gabriel?
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:45am On Aug 12, 2024
Kingsempires:
but there were archangels in the Bible angel Gabriel was also an archangel in the bible so how is Jesus now angel Michael, what of archangel Gabriel?
There is just one archangel and his name is Michael.
The Bible mentioned the name of two angels Michael and Gabriel that's why some Bible readers thought Gabriel is also an archangel he is not.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Emusan(m): 10:17am On Aug 17, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
There is just one archangel and his name is Michael.
The Bible mentioned the name of two angels Michael and Gabriel that's why some Bible readers thought Gabriel is also an archangel he is not.
How long will you continue to lie against God and His Word?

The scripture boldy says there are many archangels, well if Devil is your father what do you expect!

"But for twenty-one days the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia blocked my way. Then Michael, one of the archangels, came to help me, and I left him there with the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia." - Dan 10:13
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:35am On Aug 17, 2024
Emusan:
How long will you continue to lie against God and His Word?
The scripture boldy says there are many archangels, well if Devil is your father what do you expect!
"But for twenty-one days the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia blocked my way. Then Michael, one of the archangels, came to help me, and I left him there with the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia." - Dan 10:13
The translators used their preconceived thought there so please check the same verse in other translations.

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Emusan(m): 10:43am On Aug 17, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The translators used their preconceived thought there so please check the same verse in other translations.

May you have PEACE! smiley
Waoooooo

So what is the Hebrew meaning of the word CHIEF PRINCE?

cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 1:53pm On Aug 17, 2024
Emusan:
Waoooooo

So what is the Hebrew meaning of the word CHIEF PRINCE?

cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
you still dey ask the question huh
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Emusan(m): 1:58pm On Aug 17, 2024
Kingsempires:
you still dey ask the question huh
Of course, since he is claiming that it was translator's preconceived thought.

Or you don't want to know the meaning too?
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:05pm On Aug 17, 2024
Emusan:
Of course, since he is claiming that it was translator's preconceived thought.
Or you don't want to know the meaning too?
It simply means angels having authority over other angles in heaven but the archangel is the overall commander over all angles in heaven.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 2:09pm On Aug 17, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
It simply means angels having authority over other angles in heaven but the archangel is the overall commander over all angles in heaven.
I don't still understand your narration
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Emusan(m):
MaxInDHouse:
It simply means angels having authority over other angles in heaven but the archangel is the overall commander over all angles in heaven.
Lying liar!

Arch means CHIEF

Even in the rank Chief Prince is more superior to Archangel.

Stop lying against God and His word just because you want to please your gods in Warwick. You'll give account one day, don't forget that.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 2:17pm On Aug 17, 2024
Emusan:
Lying liar!

Arch means CHIEF

Even in the rank Chief Prince is more superior to Archangel.

Stop lying against God and His word just because you want to pleasenypur gods in Warwick. You'll give account one day, don't forget that.
is the Way he understood the Bible
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