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DaddyCoool:
Who's right? Who's wrong?



https://dailypost.ng/2024/08/15/why-i-stopped-speaking-to-my-mother-gospel-singer-kirk-franklin/

That's one broken home.

DaddyCoool:
But no where does it say you have to keep dealing with them or stay in touch with them

Yes! But for the sake of making heaven as your eternal home. You have to forgive. But if they need your help and it is within your capacity, do it for them and maintain your lane.

Joseph in the old testament, forgave his blood brothers, who sold him into slavery. Check your bible...

King David forgave King Saul, who was after his life to kill him...

And to crown it all, Jesus Christ say we should forgive those who offend us so that our Father in Heaven can forgive us too...

dauntless15:
Lol yes it's crappy, didn't know you are the book, sorry book.

you said we should not do this again nah

saintnegroid:
you said we should not do this again nah

Yea, the book is still crap.

BeigJawnson:
Yes! But for the sake of making heaven as your eternal home. You have to forgive. But if they need your help and it is within your capacity, do it for them and maintain your lane.

Joseph in the old testament, forgave his blood brothers, who sold him into slavery. Check your bible...

King David forgave King Saul, who was after his life to kill him...

And to crown it all, Jesus Christ say we should forgive those who offend us so that our Father in Heaven can forgive us too...

Funny guy, didn't I say you should forgive with all your heart. Doesn't mean you must keep hanging around them

BluntCrazeMan:
That's one broken home.

Notice how universe always gives stars to broken homes, never to a wholesome intact loving families? You wonder why

babajero:
If you keep on doing what a Christian shouldn't do then you are not a Christian.

You didn't answer the question. Do you sin everyday? Yes or no

DaddyCoool:
Funny guy, didn't say you should forgive with all your heart. Doesn't mean you must keep hanging around them

Yes now, forgive and let go... But mingling and hanging around them is you being unwise... Same bible told us we should be wise like the serpent and be gentle like the dove...

For example, you have a brother you do discuss all your plans with and later he came to you seeking your forgiveness for blocking your plans not to progress in life, it will be hard to forgive him, but you have to forgive him and let go.

But will it be wise enough for you to be telling him your plans again after you forgive him?

Infact, the lessons you learn from him won't make you trust anybody with your plans by telling them... Let wisdom leads, in everything you do.... It is not funny ... I ain't joking.

Kirk franklin has to forgive his mother. If his mother calls, he should pick and talk to her, and vice versa... So is he telling us that if his mother comes for forgiveness, he won't forgive her cos of what she's done to him?

BeigJawnson:
Yes now, forgive and let go... But mingling and hanging around them is you being unwise... Same bible told us we should be wise like the serpent and be gentle like the dove...

For example, you have a brother you do discuss all your plans with and later he came to you seeking your forgiveness for blocking your plans not to progress in life, it will be hard to forgive him, but you have to forgive him and let go.

But will it be wise enough for you to be telling him your plans again after you forgive him?

Infact, the lessons you learn from him won't make you trust anybody with your plans by telling them... Let wisdom leads, in everything you do.... It is not funny ... I ain't joking.

Kirk franklin has to forgive his mother. If his mother calls, he should pick and talk to her, and vice versa... So is he telling us that if his mother comes for forgiveness, he won't forgive her cos of what she's done to him?

Cool. But maybe you missed where he said this:

"And I promised myself that as a little boy I couldn’t protect myself but as a grown man I would never be put in a position where you would treat me like that again.”

[thanks bro.quote author=Olatara post=131543850]Imagine me.[/quote]

DaddyCoool:
Cool. But maybe you missed where he said this:

"And I promised myself that as a little boy I couldn’t protect myself but as a grown man I would never be put in a position where you would treat me like that again.”

I missed it, thanks so much for this...

caye:
I don't insult ppl on this forum, but you will be an exception.

YOU ARE A FOOL SIR, FOR INSULTING BLACK AMERICANS!

Calling ppl better than you " animals" shows who you really are: a big fool

Your father and every elderly members of your family are fools for failing to train you.

The fact they are better than your poverty ridden family does not mean they are better than everyone else. My comment was not for a toddler like you, it was for adults especially those who'd had a firsthand experience with the Akatas. If you have an uncle or anyone from your village who live in the US, ask him/her what kind of life the Akatas live. Over 90% of them live such life and it's not an understatement if someone use that statistic to generalize.

dauntless15:
Yea, the book is still crap.

okay same as you

Kirk admitting this does not make him less of Christian; it makes him human. Many of us here are quick to judge him because we do not know the background of the story!

Kirk Franklin's mother abandoned him as an infant! He was adopted and raised by his aunt. Kirk never met his father until Kirk turned 53 years old. How difficult could one's childhood be?? We should cut him some slacks.

Now, this story was a singular opportunity for his mum to make amends, yet, she walked out as usual. Before we cancel Kirk, I'd suggest all put ourselves in his shoes for a day!

mbaise1000:
If this were from any one who doesn't claim to be a Christian, it will be understandable but coming from a person who claims to be a Christian and who claims to be an evangelist, (fort this is what I will take a gospel singer to be) this is not it. This comes to prove again what we keep saying that majority of people who claim to be Christians are in reality not christians, this person is certainly not a Christian. What exactly is he preaching through his music? Every Christian must be able to forgive every single offence no matter how many times, this is very difficult to do but only christians can do that, do this person is not a Christian no matter what he may claim.

A lot of spiritual ignorance on display here.

Some dummys are claiming he needs to forgive his mother.

So the sign that you have forgiven someone is talking to them.

How daft.

Right now, there are two people who are talking and one is planning to murder the other. But religious people see them talking and are happy that all is well.

Religious people are making noise here saying he needs to forgive.

Forgiveness doesn't require pursuing the person around town- it implies no atom of desire for vengeance or retribution for the pain that the person caused you.

Someone came to your house and stole your employers dollars and because of that you lost your job.

It's three years later and you have gotten another job and you are holding dollars for your new employer and the person says they want to come visit you again.

Foolishness is saying I have forgiven you so come into my bedroom and have free reign to the dollars for the second time.

Forgiveness says Yes, come to my house and I will see you outside and we can talk. That way, I won't be tempting you to break me down again

nwirinedu:
Story not complete, decades ago he gave a tribute to her in one of his songs about how she struggled doing odd jobs to pay for his piano lessons.

Ingratitude has many faces.

He was taking about mom who raised him. His biological abandoned him at 4.
See full story below

GSyntax:
Kirk admitting this does not make him less of Christian; it makes him human. Many of us here are quick to judge him because we do not know the background of the story!

Kirk Franklin's mother abandoned him as an infant! He was adopted and raised by his aunt. Kirk never met his father until Kirk turned 53 years old. How difficult could one's childhood be?? We should cut him some slacks.

Now, this story was a singular opportunity for his mum to make amends, yet, she walked out as usual. Before we cancel Kirk, I'd suggest all put ourselves in his shoes for a day! mbaise1000

Not only that, she kept denying that was his biological father even after 2 DNA tests! The woman is just no good


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5whZunUUNtU?si=Wsscmh3i8xScaEaT

Ezendigbo1978:
Your father and every elderly members of your family are fools for failing to train you.

The fact they are better than your poverty ridden family does not mean they are better than everyone else. My comment was not for a toddler like you, it was for adults especially those who'd had a firsthand experience with the Akatas. If you have an uncle or anyone from your village who live in the US, ask him/her what kind of life the Akatas live. Over 90% of them live such life and it's not an understatement if someone use that statistic to generalize.

...and so , you generalized a whole traumatized race ( the Foundational Black Americans) by the actions of a few living , probably in Chicago or L.A?
What about the upstanding Black Americans , with high income families living in Georgia, Atlanta, Texas or anywhere else?

- who put it into you that the most progressive black group in the world is the Nigerian American? The white supremacists which your type worships? The same villains and demons who killed black Americans en masse in the south in the 30s & 40s , burning Black American towns , driving them into the ghettos of the northern US cities?

- Do you even know the history that had happened from the 1700s till date?

How old are you gaan? Most of you youngings talk as if everyone here is your mate.

caye:
...and so , you generalized a whole traumatized race ( the Foundational Black Americans) by the actions of a few living , probably in Chicago or L.A?
What about the upstanding Black Americans , with high income families living in Georgia, Atlanta, Texas or anywhere else?

- who put it into you that the most progressive black group in the world is the Nigerian American? The white supremacists which your type worships? The same villains and demons who killed black Americans en masse in the south in the 30s & 40s , burning Black American towns , driving them into the ghettos of the northern US cities?

- Do you even know the history that had happened from the 1700s till date?

How old are you gaan? Most of you youngings talk as if everyone here is your mate.

I tell you, UNBELIEVABLE ignorance!
Ezendigbo1978 if you only realize how ignorant you are!

DaddyCoool:
Notice how universe always gives stars to broken homes, never to a wholesome intact loving families? You wonder why

There could be a theory to that.

It's not entirely Universe Per-se.
But individuals who swore that their past won't describe or be a designing factor for their future..
Thus, they become high-flying in nature.
They want to make it by all means and shame their ugly past.
They have trust issues so much,, and their own kids may not be as successful as they are, because they wouldn't want their kids to suffer what they suffered, and thus, they would raise kids who are not high-fliers.

People who come from tranquil homes don't develop high-flying nature in them.
They easily do well in teams, and they easily trust people too.
They are Okay just being comfortable.
They don't even need to be the spotlight person, thus, they don't need to be the star.

...
I may not be totally correct in my two-way analysis,, but most of the time, it is true.

mbaise1000:
If this were from any one who doesn't claim to be a Christian, it will be understandable but coming from a person who claims to be a Christian and who claims to be an evangelist, (fort this is what I will take a gospel singer to be) this is not it. This comes to prove again what we keep saying that majority of people who claim to be Christians are in reality not christians, this person is certainly not a Christian. What exactly is he preaching through his music? Every Christian must be able to forgive every single offence no matter how many times, this is very difficult to do but only christians can do that, do this person is not a Christian no matter what he may claim.

I'm personally shocked reading this of him

...and also that he has come out to publicly state this.

But then again, everyone of us is at different levels of pruning.

This is probably an area of his life the Holy Spirit has been labouring over...to bring him to perfection.

Please pray for him instead of condemnation.

I sincerely believe in my heart, that the next we'll hear about this is that he has moved past this hurt, and forgiven his mother.

If he's truly a child of God, as I want to believe, he'll have a redefining encounter.

PrimadonnaO:
I'm personally shocked reading this of him

...and also that he has come out to publicly state this.

But then again, everyone of us is at different levels of pruning.

This is probably an area of his life the Holy Spirit has been labouring over...to bring him to perfection.

Please pray for him instead of condemnation.

I sincerely believe in my heart, that the next we'll hear about this is that he has moved past this hurt, and forgiven his mother.

If he's truly a child of God, as I want to believe, he'll have a redefining encounter.

Where did he say he hasn't forgiven his mother?
Below is what he said:

"And I promised myself that as a little boy I couldn’t protect myself but as a grown man I would never be put in a position where you would treat me like that again.”

BluntCrazeMan:
There could be a theory to that.

It's not entirely Universe Per-se.
But individuals who swore that their past won't describe or be a designing factor for their future..
Thus, they become high-flying in nature.
They want to make it by all means and shame their ugly past.
They have trust issues so much,, and their own kids may not be as successful as they are, because they wouldn't want their kids to suffer what they suffered, and thus, they would raise kids who are not high-fliers.

People who come from tranquil homes don't develop high-flying nature in them.
They easily do well in teams, and they easily trust people too.
They are Okay just being comfortable.
They don't even need to be the spotlight person, thus, they don't need to be the star.

...
I may not be totally correct in my two-way analysis,, but most of the time, it is true.

I disagree. Genius talent like Kirk's can only come from God. You can't get it by hard work or being angry