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Please don't harden your heart.

The end game of the devil and his demons is Hell fire, and later destruction with him at the lake of fire

Listen to us

listening?? what will that do to us?? we have been listning since how many decade ? and whats the point

why would you listen to someone who tells you all the "supposed" greatness of some heaven yet doing everything he possibly can to avoid that same yeye "heaven". here is the important question:" WHY IS THE POPE AND/OR ALL OTHER YEYE MEN IN ROBE ARE AFRAID OF DEATH?!?!

obonujoker:
Please don't harden your heart.

The end game of the devil and his demons is Hell fire, and later destruction with him at the lake of fire

Listen to us

You want people to listen to you, do you care to listen to people first?

There is no message in what you're saying so it will make no sense at all to any sane individual but let's say you approach someone and start by asking:

(don't read the Bible until your listener asks you to tell if you know the answer)

Why is it that morality in most places is dying away? 2Timothy 3:1-5

What is happening to our dead loved one now? Ecclesiastes 5:5-10

World is filled with violence, things are getting harder and we are scared of the future of our children, is this how things will continue to be? Matthew 6:10 compare to Psalms 37:7-11

With these approaches nobody will object to your message in fact they will not know where you are driving at until you introduce the only solution to mankind's problems: God's Kingdom or God's Government where only the good will be allowed to live! Matthew 10:7

Threatening your listener with some fairy Hell stories won't yield anything positive though the REAL meaning of Hell is Grave but that is a topic for another time!

MaxInDHouse:
There is no message in what you're saying so it will make no sense at all to any sane individual but let's say you approach someone and start by asking:

(don't read the Bible until your listener asks you to tell if you know the answer)

Why is it that morality in most places is dying away? 2Timothy 3:1-5

What is happening to our dead loved one now? Ecclesiastes 5:5-10

World is filled with violence, things are getting harder and we are scared of the future of our children, is this how things will continue to be? Matthew 6:10 compare to Psalms 37:7-11

With these approaches nobody will object to your message in fact they will not know where you are driving at until you introduce the only solution to mankind's problems: God's Kingdom or God's Government where only the good will be allowed to live! Matthew 10:7

Threatening your listener with some fairy Hell stories won't yield anything positive though the REAL meaning of Hell is Grave but that is a topic for another time!

So in other words, Jesus Christ is a liar?

obonujoker:
So in other words, Jesus Christ is a liar?

Jesus didn't speak English so find out what the Hebrew word translated to Hell means.

If someone told you the king of a native American City said he wants to kill you will you just swallow it hook line and sinker when you can find out the meaning of what the king said?

obonujoker:
Please don't harden your heart.
The end game of the devil and his demons is Hell fire, and later destruction with him at the lake of fire
Listen to us

Stop lying to yourselves! Stop allowing men continue to scam you with their many lies!

obonujoker:
∆ So in other words, Jesus Christ is a liar?

Jesus Christ is not the liar here; Your scammers-in-the-lords who lace their lies with the mentions of the name Jesus Christ are.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus didn't speak English so find out what the Hebrew word translated to Hell means.

If someone told you the king of a native American City said he wants to kill you will you just swallow it hook line and sinker when you can find out the meaning of what the king said?

Psalms 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

So what Hell was David talking about here?

Kobojunkieee:
Jesus Christ is not the liar here; Your scammers-in-the-lords who lace their lies with the mentions of the name Jesus Christ are.

But Jesus Christ mentioned and talked about hell.

He spoke about it in the Bible... Or is the Bible not true again?

obonujoker:
Psalms 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
So what Hell was David talking about here?

After the third day a dead body begins to decay in the Grave (Hell) that's what Martha told Jesus! John 11:39

David was inspired to prophesy regarding Jesus' death that God will not allow Jesus' body to rotten in the grave where he was buried {Act 2:31} and Jesus was raised to fulfill that prophecy!

MaxInDHouse:
After the third day a dead body begins to decay in the Grave (Hell) that's what Martha told Jesus! John 11:39

David was inspired to prophesy regarding Jesus' death that God will not allow Jesus' body to rotten in the grave where he was buried {Act 2:31} and Jesus was raised to fulfill that prophecy!

So why did Jesus talk about worms, wailing, weeping and gnashing of teeth in hell?? Matt 13:41-42?

obonujoker:
So why did Jesus talk about worms, wailing, weeping and gnashing of teeth in hell?? Matt 13:41-42?

He was speaking in illustrations! Matthew 13:34

obonujoker:
Please don't harden your heart.

The end game of the devil and his demons is Hell fire, and later destruction with him at the lake of fire

Listen to us

What part of human burns in hell?

obonujoker:
↪But Jesus Christ mentioned and talked about hell.
↪He spoke about it in the Bible... Or is the Bible not true again?

1. Jesus Christ specifically said His Heaven and His Hell — the Kingdom of God — He brought only for the Lost Sheep of Israel. He also warned His followers not to give that which is Holy — the Gospel of the Kingdom of God — to the dogs(the non-Israelites). This is what Jesus Christ is recorded to have said and nothing of this was ever changed by any of His followers.

2. What you Christians and your scammers-in-the-lords speak is not what Jesus Christ spoke — not according to the Bible. You Christians and Muslims are pretty much the same in that your attempts by your gods of men to piggy-back on the name of the God of Israel and Jesus Christ are born of fraud.

MaxInDHouse:
He was speaking in illustrations! Matthew 13:34

Now read and understand.

Matthew 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

The Bolded part, is it a parable or explanation of the parable Jesus gave?

Michael547:
What part of human burns in hell?

The soul of the human burns in hell fire.

At the lake of Fire, both the body and soul will be burnt, as the bodies of dead unbelievers will already be resurrected for the great white throne judgment.

Remember the Antichrist and the False prophet are both cast alive into the Lake of Fire, meaning they didn't die before being cast into the lake of Fire.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Kobojunkieee:
1. Jesus Christ specifically said His Heaven and His Hell — the Kingdom of God — He brought only for the Lost Sheep of Israel. He also warned His followers not to give that which is Holy — the Gospel of the Kingdom of God — to the dogs(the non-Israelites). This is what Jesus Christ is recorded to have said and nothing of this was ever changed by any of His followers.

2. What you Christians and your scammers-in-the-lords speak is not what Jesus Christ spoke — not according to the Bible. You Christians and Muslims are pretty much the same in that your attempts by your gods of men to piggy-back on the name of the God of Israel and Jesus Christ are born of fraud.

1. So Jesus didn't make these statements 👇

Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


2. From the verses above, you can see that we are doing what Jesus asked us his disciples (Christians) to do, by telling people about God, baptizing them in the holy ghost and power and doing signs and wonders as God leads.



So why won't you believe us?

obonujoker:
1. So Jesus didn't make these statements 👇
■ Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
■ Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
■ John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
2. From the verses above, you can see that we are doing what Jesus asked us his disciples (Christians) to do, by telling people about God, baptizing them in the holy ghost and power and doing signs and wonders as God leads. So why won't you believe us?

1. The World to which Jesus Christ said His Father sent him, Jesus Christ described as the very same World to which His Father had Moses raise the Bronze Snake in the desert as a path to redemption. According to Jesus Christ, He too was given to the Israelites who were condemned so that they can obtain redemption from the curse of God — condemnation — upon them, a curse which came down on all of Israel during the Last Days which He heralded.🤔

14 “Moses lifted up the snake in the desert. It is the same with the Son of Man. He must be lifted up too.
15 Then everyone who believes in him can have eternal life.”
16 Yes, God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life. - John 3 vs 14 - 16

So, here we have Jesus Christ establish the identity of the world to which He was sent. Then throughout the Gospels, the same Jesus Christ warned His followers against giving that which is Holy to the dogs, Himself only offering healing — the crumbs from the table — to the dogs and nothing more(not the gospel itself or the Kingdom of God). 🤔
So, which one of those 3 verses you quoted earlier leads you to believe that Jesus Christ changed His mind — lied in the Gospels? 🤔

2. I am afraid you are wrong as all I see is a Christian trying hard to sell the lies he has been fed, probably from his childhood by his many scammers-in-the-lords, lies which he does not even realize render Jesus Christ a liar if claimed true. 🤔

obonujoker:
So why did Jesus talk about worms, wailing, weeping and gnashing of teeth in hell?? Matt 13:41-42?

So if the human soul without the body is the one that goes and burns in hell fire, Why did Jesus make mention of worms in hell fire? Can worms consume soul in hell fire?

obonujoker:
The soul of the human burns in hell fire.

At the lake of Fire, both the body and soul will be burnt, as the bodies of dead unbelievers will already be resurrected for the great white throne judgment.


Remember the Antichrist and the False prophet are both cast alive into the Lake of Fire, meaning they didn't die before being cast into the lake of Fire.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

If unbelievers would be resurrected to be judged and sent to the lake of fire, How were they sent to hell fire in the first place? Are you saying that unbelievers are going to be judged twice?

obonujoker:
Now read and understand.

Matthew 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

The Bolded part, is it a parable or explanation of the parable Jesus gave?

Did he explain all the parables?

Michael547:
So if the human soul without the body is the one that goes and burns in hell fire, Why did Jesus make mention of worms in hell fire? Can worms consume soul in hell fire?



If unbelievers would be resurrected to be judged and sent to the lake of fire, How were they sent to hell fire in the first place? Are you saying that unbelievers are going to be judged twice?

1. They are spiritual worms designed by God as a punishment to rebellious souls.

Mark 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

2. The soul is an eternal being. The flesh is made of dust as shown in Genesis. The flesh houses the soul. The soul is like God (created in God's image) and cannot die as God does not die (Eternal).

So any soul that sinneth after dropping the physical body is supposed the return back to God, but God cannot see or condone sin (attributes of satan), hence the sinful soul is sent to the abode where the Devil is, which is Hades, and since the devil hates God, he torments terribly the damned human soul that finds it's way there, that's why is called Hell Fire.

At the final judgment, the second resurrection, the soul will be brought out of hell and join together with the physical buried body, and if found wanting will be cast body and soul into the second death (Lake of Fire)... See 👇

Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

However, there's hope for human beings. Jesus has overcome Death and Hell.👇
Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

And so anyone who wants eternal with God mist come to Jesus Christ and collect it freely

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

MaxInDHouse:
Did he explain all the parables?

Yes Jesus did whenever his disciples asked him to.

Remember the seed of the sower.

However whenever Jesus talked about Hell, He was serious.

Many souls wished they had the second chance to come back and repent

obonujoker:
1. They are spiritual worms designed by God as a punishment to rebellious souls.

Mark 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Where did Jesus teach that the worms are spiritual worms?
Are you also saying that hell fire is in the spiritual realm? If yes, where in the spiritual realm?

2. The soul is an eternal being. The flesh is made of dust as shown in Genesis. The flesh houses the soul. The soul is like God (created in God's image) and cannot die as God does not die (Eternal).

Where does Genesis 2:7 say that the soul was put inside flesh?

If the soul does not die, how can you explain Ezekiel 18:4, 20?

So any soul that sinneth after dropping the physical body is supposed the return back to God, but God cannot see or condone sin (attributes of satan), hence the sinful soul is sent to the abode where the Devil is, which is Hades, and since the devil hates God, he torments terribly the damned human soul that finds it's way there, that's why is called Hell Fire.

Who sent the Devil to hell fire? If the devil is in hell fire, why is he not tormented by the worms and fire?

At the final judgment, the second resurrection, the soul will be brought out of hell and join together with the physical buried body, and if found wanting will be cast body and soul into the second death (Lake of Fire)... See 👇

Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

So are you saying that the unbelievers are judged twice? Can an unbeliever who was in hell fire before be directed to heaven and not to the lake of fire?

obonujoker:
Please don't harden your heart.

The end game of the devil and his demons is Hell fire, and later destruction with him at the lake of fire

Listen to us

Why should I listen to u and not to a Muslim?

obonujoker:
The soul of the human burns in hell fire.

At the lake of Fire, both the body and soul will be burnt, as the bodies of dead unbelievers will already be resurrected for the great white throne judgment.

Remember the Antichrist and the False prophet are both cast alive into the Lake of Fire, meaning they didn't die before being cast into the lake of Fire.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

What is a soul?

obonujoker:
1. They are spiritual worms designed by God as a punishment to rebellious souls.

Mark 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

2. The soul is an eternal being . The flesh is made of dust as shown in Genesis. The flesh houses the soul. The soul is like God (created in God's image) and cannot die as God does not die (Eternal).

So any soul that sinneth after dropping the physical body is supposed the return back to God, but God cannot see or condone sin (attributes of satan), hence the sinful soul is sent to the abode where the Devil is, which is Hades, and since the devil hates God, he torments terribly the damned human soul that finds it's way there, that's why is called Hell Fire.

At the final judgment, the second resurrection, the soul will be brought out of hell and join together with the physical buried body, and if found wanting will be cast body and soul into the second death (Lake of Fire)... See 👇

Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

However, there's hope for human beings. Jesus has overcome Death and Hell.👇
Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

And so anyone who wants eternal with God mist come to Jesus Christ and collect it freely

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

How do you know this? How do you kbow an eternal concept when u r not eternal

jaephoenix:
How do you know this? How do you kbow an eternal concept when u r not eternal

From the Bible

The bible is the word of God

jaephoenix:
What is a soul?

Soul is the created being in God's image and likeness

The body (Flesh) houses the soul.

The soul is eternal, it doesn't die but lives on even after the flesh drops

jaephoenix:
Why should I listen to u and not to a Muslim?

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

And Jesus Christ has empowered us to show people the truth.

No other religion or lifestyle or superhero can save

obonujoker:
Yes Jesus did whenever his disciples asked him to.

Is it when his disciples couldn't understand and ask him or he always explain all his illustrations?