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Alphamentips:
Christianity was spread in Nigeria mostly by the Brits, Portuguese and Romans now Italians.

Religion is practiced everywhere ....I'm sure uve traveled abroad.....Issac newton was a Christian, many founding fathers of science are strong Catholics, Jews, etc....so why is that it's mostly us Africans that complain religion is preventing us from knowing what is good and developing it.... or we blame the whites that brought it here for using it limit us from developing

... is it not the same bible and Quran they read over there and are still developed? Abi is Saudi and Dubai not a nation??

What u guys don't want to admit is that the black man is limited in brain power mostly because of the "good" environment he's forged in..
....my oga...necessity is the mother of invention.....it's no surprise that the corner of the world that has the harsh snow weather first thought of creating fridge.... it wasn't a thirst for cold water that drove the thinking for this invention...

StillDtruth:
Because atheists are permanently cursed and they are so far gone that they cannot commit suicide because they know they its even worser, therefore they live their lives without hope.

And the hopes other people have especially christians is what pains them as they see that christians are happy while they are in great pain and sorrow.

So it is just a case of if they are not happy no other person should be happy. And if they are cursed everyone should be cursed like them.

No cause for insult,
Please respect other people's believe

advanceDNA:
Religion is practiced everywhere ....I'm sure uve traveled abroad.....Issac newton was a Christian, many founding fathers of science are strong Catholics, Jews, etc....so why is that it's mostly us Africans that complain religion is preventing us from knowing what is good and developing it.... or we blame the whites that brought it here for using it limit us from developing

... is it not the same bible and Quran they read over there and are still developed? Abi is Saudi and Dubai not a nation??

What u guys don't want to admit is that the black man is limited in brain power mostly because of the "good" environment he's forged in..
....my oga...necessity is the mother of invention.....it's no surprise that the corner of the world that has the harsh snow weather first thought of creating fridge.... it wasn't a thirst for cold water that drove the thinking for this invention...

I no dey like discuss religion, sports or politics with strangers because it's an edgy topic especially an African or a religious person... you'll get emotional and we'd miss the opportunity of having any meaningful advancement in the convo. So I'll pass.

Knock yourself out with whatever rocks your boat, Bro. If you believe Jesus is your Lord and personal saviour no qualms. What's my own inside there?

Alphamentips:
I no dey like discuss religion, sports or politics with strangers because it's an edgy topic especially an African or a religious person... you'll get emotional and we'd miss the opportunity of having any meaningful advancement in the convo. So I'll pass.

Knock yourself out with whatever rocks your boat, Bro. If you believe Jesus is your Lord and personal saviour no qualms. What's my own inside there?

Lol...my context isn't about Jesus....im shocked at how you arrived there.....my point is about we blacks refusing to admit who we are, grow and develop.... and stop blaming the whites and religion for it...



Both black atheist and theist what have we developed from....

Both white atheist and theist are thinking, researching and investing things .. That's my point

advanceDNA:
Religion is practiced everywhere ..so why is that it's mostly us Africans that complain religion is preventing us from knowing what is good and developing it.... or we blame the whites that brought

... is it not the same bible and Quran they read over there and are still developed? Abi is Saudi and Dubai not a nation??

What u guys don't want to admit is that the black man is limited in brain power mostly because of the "good" environment he's forged in..
....my oga...necessity is the mother of invention.....it's no surprise that the corner of the world that has the harsh snow weather first thought of creating fridge.... it wasn't a thirst for cold water

I'm so tempted to help u get enlightenment on this but it's a journey you have to embark alone.

Another reason I don't want to engage you on this is because all truth passes through three stages:

First, it is ridiculed; second, it is violently opposed; and third, it is accepted as self-evident. And I don't wanna be on the receiving end of your reaction.

Just like when a doctor breaks a sad news to you that your relative passed away.

You go almost unleash all your anger on the doctor because your mind will vehemently reject what does not align with what you've always known to be true.

That's why people who are irreligious, agnostic or atheist are attacked and called the Devil.

And I don't want you to put the Devil on me

Alphamentips:
I'm so tempted to help u get enlightenment on this but it's a journey you have to embark alone.

Another reason I don't want to engage you on this is because all truth passes through three stages:

First, it is ridiculed; second, it is violently opposed; and third, it is accepted as self-evident. And I don't wanna be on the receiving end of your reaction.

Just like when a doctor breaks a sad news to you that your relative passed away.

You go almost unleash all your anger on the doctor because your mind will vehemently reject what does not align with what you've always known to be true.

That's why people who are irreligious, agnostic or atheist are attacked and called the Devil.

And I don't want you to put the Devil on me

U have a lot of fallacy going on here..

..u jump into conclusions alot that I'm some religionist that will call u a devil because of ur views...
..if u ddnt notice....I only mentioned one of your many comments.....and my comment is based on the context of Africa being intrinsically limited in brain power but blame religion and the whites ... But somehow u made it about Jesus and devils

U have some weird notion that you know better than any theist .....I don't know why...but i want believe Its another fallacy because no one is all-knowing,

U seem to have this urge of schooling me on something u already Believe I don't know, which makes u sound condescending and I believe made you miss my point.....

advanceDNA:
Lol...my context isn't about Jesus....im shocked at how you arrived there.....my point is about we blacks refusing to admit who we are, grow and develop.... and stop blaming the whites and religion for it...



Both black atheist and theist what have we developed from....

Both white atheist and theist are thinking, researching and investing things .. That's my point

U sound less agitated now vs when you first replied me. So I guess your defenses are a bit down and you are a bit more open to contradicting opinions... So I'll start with saying:

1. Africa is in the tropics. Blessed with a warm favorable weather. Rich with natural resources and shit. So our ancestors weren't into conquering or taking over vast cold masses of land in the polar regions. I mean why leave a warm nation to cold regions.

We explored and ventures out of Africa but not with intent to take over unlike the Caucasians. So they war was always brought to our doorsteps.

...and after a few physical hand-to-hand combats the savage intruders retreated but came back with weapons that made it possible for them to fight from a distance.

With improved weapons, they had an increase in successful military invasions.

It's like the normal argument u read here on NL where tribalist monikers say things like "if the Igbos are so rich why don't they go develop the East and stay out of Lagos"

People who say that forget that a major reason the Eastern part of Nigeria isn't as developed as Lagos is because the war was brought to their doorsteps and they had to start all over with 2pounds to all man.

I mean, you can only hold out for so long. The best form of defence is attack.

So the logic is sound but not valid.

Same applies with the issue of neo-colonialism and religious indoctrination. You can't just say, "if you are so superior as blacks/Africans why did the whites get you to be slaves for 300 years plus?" Without raising the question who was the aggressor and where was the war fought.

It's sad I have to tell you this because it's common knowledge I gained while still in 1st year in school.

If you studied Peace and Conflict Resolution in school or any basic course in Humanity then I'm surprised this info didn't sink in.

Like it's all in the 2nd year GS textbooks. the fact you went through school and didn't even think twice about your beliefs and world view bothers me

advanceDNA:
U have a lot of fallacy going on here..

..u jump into conclusions alot that I'm some religionist that will call u a devil because of ur views...
..if u ddnt notice....I only mentioned one of your many comments.....and my comment is based on the context of Africa being intrinsically limited in brain power but blame religion and the whites ... But somehow u made it about Jesus and devils

U have some weird notion that you know better than any theist .....I don't know why...but i want believe Its another fallacy because no one is all-knowing,

U seem to have this urge of schooling me on something u already Believe I don't know, which makes u sound condescending and I believe made you miss my point.....

I'm not taking out of my ass bro. What fallacy do u mean? Call me out and I'll provide sources. I made mention of how religion blocks out the normal thinking process involved in scientific research and reasoning. How does a people who don't think straight develop scientifically?

I'm spitting facts bro. Call me out on the fallacy and I'll send u some external sources to verify.

Do u believe you are a man or woman? U don't believe in facts you rather 'know' the facts.

Belief is something spurn out of the lack of evidence to support a claim

advanceDNA

you made mention of how I think I know better than theists and all...

One question, why would you want to hold a book written around 200 AD and hasn't been revised for once as a reliable source of info in the 21st century over current information available to everyone online?

And the Bible you know today is not the same as the original Torah. It's doctored and now a political tool. Bro use Google. I'm out

Alphamentips:
advanceDNA

you made mention of how I think I know better than theists and all...

One question, why would you want to hold a book written around 200 AD and hasn't been revised for once as a reliable source of info in the 21st century over current information available to everyone online?

And the Bible you know today is not the same as the original Torah. It's doctored and now a political tool. Bro use Google. I'm out

Lol....How did we arrive here....when did we start discussing the bible, Torah, or any book??
When did I tell u I hold any book as a reliable source of info?? What info??

Geez.!! ...you are a dialoguing out of context and its weird

Alphamentips:
I'm not taking out of my ass bro. What fallacy do u mean? Call me out and I'll provide sources. I made mention of how religion blocks out the normal thinking process involved in scientific research and reasoning. How does a people who don't think straight develop scientifically?

I'm spitting facts bro. Call me out on the fallacy and I'll send u some external sources to verify.

Do u believe you are a man or woman? U don't believe in facts you rather 'know' the facts.

Belief is something spurn out of the lack of evidence to support a claim

Oh.....sigh!!

advanceDNA:
Lol....How did we arrive here....when did we start discussing the bible, Torah, or any book??
When did I tell u I hold any book as a reliable source of info?? What info??

Geez.!! ...you are a dialoguing out of context and its weird

No be you use this your hand talk say whether no be the same Bible Jews dem dey read we dey read for Africa?

The answer is 'no'

Abi you dey get amnesia? It's not the same Bible. Ours was modified to pass a narrative and to hold us down.

You also asked if the Arabians and whites practice a different kind of Islam and the answer is 'YES' also.

You really aren't aware how deep that rabbit hole goes, are you?

jaephoenix:
Plus christians want to control how non-christians live. Also they wake us up from sleep, harass us on the road, block the roads, disturb the peace with processions etc

Exactly. They and their Muslim brothers. I was at Marina one day awaiting a guy fixing my car tyre when one lady came unto me and offered me a winners' chapel leaflet and went like "Jesus is inviting you".

I looked at the lady dead in the eyes with a very cold gaze and politely asked "Who is Jesus?". The next thing she said was "You don't know Jesus?"

I said I don't know him, then the lady left to meet the rest of the team feeling embarrassed.
These guys are idiots, they clearly can't receive what they give.

Alphamentips:
No be you use this your hand talk say whether no be the same Bible Jews dem dey read we dey read for Africa?

The answer is 'no'

Abi you dey get amnesia? It's not the same Bible. Ours was modified to pass a narrative and to hold us down.

You also asked if the Arabians and whites practice a different kind of Islam and the answer is 'YES' also.

You really aren't aware how deep that rabbit hole goes, are you?

advanceDNA is a white supremacist but expect him 2 deny it


arrant rubbish


he beta declare his famili membs only as limited in brain power

advanceDNA:
Oh.....sigh!!

itz ur mumdadsiblings dat are limited in brain power


rest

MaxInDHouse:
Everyone loves sharing happy moments with their neighbors most importantly when we chat about how to live peaceful and friendly as well meaning neighbors so it's evildoers around us that makes you and i to start suspecting others. For your information out of 1,000 people you come across in life its 800+ among them who knows you well that often plan evil against you it's less than 200 that are strangers who may think of hurting you and trust me that such ones always feel bad doing so because their conscience will continue to disturb them for hurting you when you never offended them but your own blood relation will do the worst without feeling remorseful.

So stop being afraid of strangers because 98% of them have a free mind with no evil whatsoever against you!

What if I don't want to hear such 'happy moment'? Must you disturb me?

elated177:
On a second thought, there is no need.

How am I sure that you are even an atheist. There is no atheist here.

Just so you know, I am not a Christian.

So who are you

StillDtruth:
Clear proof that atheists all became atheists because God did not answer their prayers.

And i no understand catholics dey fast like dis? Your lies don dey too much o.

So you should be an atheist by now

FRANCISTOWN:
Exactly. They and their Muslim brothers. I was at Marina one day awaiting a guy fixing my car tyre when one lady came unto me and offered me a winners' chapel leaflet and went like "Jesus is inviting you".

I looked at the lady dead in the eyes with a very cold gaze and politely asked "Who is Jesus?". The next thing she said was "You don't know Jesus?"

I said I don't know him, then the lady left to meet the rest of the team feeling embarrassed.
These guys are idiots, they clearly can't receive what they give.

I usually don't have time for those cretards. But the few times I have agreed to engage them, they back off

jaephoenix:
What if I don't want to hear such 'happy moment'? Must you disturb me?

You can just tactfully say:
"i'm busy now maybe some other time"

Do you relate with people around you?
Of course you do because that's the reason why God gave you the gift of speech to enjoy talking to people around you.

One thing is certain:
You love chatting with neighbors that's why you're always here on Nairaland but it's the topic of discussion that may not interest you not that you don't want to hear about what could lead to happy moments.

So if you feel bored with the presence of some random neighbors coming to say "hello there" it's the condition of your heart at that moment not that you won't like to talk to others at all!

MaxInDHouse:
You can just tactfully say:
"i'm busy now maybe some other time"

Do you relate with people around you?
Of course you do because that's the reason why God gave you the gift of speech to enjoy talking to people around you.

One thing is certain:
You love chatting with neighbors that's why you're always here on Nairaland but it's the topic of discussion that may not interest you not that you don't want to hear about what could lead to happy moments.

So if you feel bored with the presence of some random neighbors coming to say "hello there" it's the condition of your heart at that moment not that you won't like to talk to others at all!

Point of correction: I chat on Nairaland when I'm at work and no patient arrives in the consulting room. I'm not 'always' here. And I don't appreciate strangers knocking on my door or pressing the bell. That sound alone distracts me. So take your distraction elsewhere. Take a poll on Nairaland and ask if folks would welcome a JW on their door.

advanceDNA:
Religion is practiced everywhere ....I'm sure uve traveled abroad.....Issac newton was a Christian, many founding fathers of science are strong Catholics, Jews, etc....so why is that it's mostly us Africans that complain religion is preventing us from knowing what is good and developing it.... or we blame the whites that brought it here for using it limit us from developing

... is it not the same bible and Quran they read over there and are still developed? Abi is Saudi and Dubai not a nation??

What u guys don't want to admit is that the black man is limited in brain power mostly because of the "good" environment he's forged in..
....my oga...necessity is the mother of invention.....it's no surprise that the corner of the world that has the harsh snow weather first thought of creating fridge.... it wasn't a thirst for cold water that drove the thinking for this invention...

The bolded isn't true. There's no scientific support whatsoever for your claim.

Poor education ,poverty ,and leadership problems are the major reasons blacks in Africa aren't making much progress.
Outside the continent, blacks are excelling .

triplechoice:
The bolded isn't true. There's no scientific support whatsoever for your claim.

Poor education ,poverty ,and leadership problems are the major reasons blacks in Africa aren't making much progress.
Outside the continent, blacks are excelling .

Lol....first u disagree by saying I am wrong about the black man's environment.......then u indirectly agree by listing the problems of the black man's environment that limits his brain power and then further confirm that he thrives outside his environment....

Okay sir..

advanceDNA:
Lol....first u disagree by saying I am wrong about the black man's environment.......then u indirectly agree by listing the problems of the black man's environment that limits his brain power and then further confirm that he thrives outside his environment....

Okay sir..

No I didn't disagree. It's you who can't see your generalisation about blacks. Are blacks only found in Africa?
You said blacks have limited brain power.

And you never specify the environment.

Alphamentips:
advanceDNA

you made mention of how I think I know better than theists and all...

One question, why would you want to hold a book written around 200 AD and hasn't been revised for once as a reliable source of info in the 21st century over current information available to everyone online?

And the Bible you know today is not the same as the original Torah. It's doctored and now a political tool. Bro use Google. I'm out

Do you think you know better than "theist and all" who don't subscribe to The Bible?

triplechoice:
No I didn't disagree. It's you who can't see your generalisation about blacks. Are blacks only found in Africa?
You said blacks have limited brain power.

And you never specify the environment.

Sigh

advanceDNA:
Sigh

Don't sigh. Communicate if you have anything to say.

triplechoice:
Don't sigh. Communicate if you have anything to say.

Sir....i don't understand what you playing it

first ...u said was that I was wrong..then u tried to give a counter comment that only sounded like u are agreeing whit what I earlier said about the black man's environment affecting him

Then u started getting defensive that u never disagreed....

Please sir....how do say an opinion is wrong without disagreeing with the opinion??

. U are are playing with words like you are trying to escape something.....i dont get it

jaephoenix:
Take a poll on Nairaland and ask if folks would welcome a friendly neighbor on their door.

The highlighted is what you need to ask that's a better way to present the matter.
Bad reports will not make most people think straight but just say a "friendly neighbor" and leave religion out of it.

If the same should go with Atheists, Agnostics, Judaists, Hindus, Buddhists, Traditionalists, Muslims and others most people will say "NO" because of bad reports.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what you need to ask that's a better way to present the matter.
Bad reports will not make most people think straight but just say a "friendly neighbor" and leave religion out of it.

If the same should go with Atheists, Agnostics, Judaists, Hindus, Buddhists, Traditionalists, Muslims and others most people will say "NO" because of bad reports.

Oga, whether friendly or not, folks don't welcome strangers knocking on their doors

Pasako:
No cause for insult,
Please respect other people's believe

I agree.

advanceDNA:
Sir....i don't understand what you playing it

first ...u said was that I was wrong..then u tried to give a counter comment that only sounded like u are agreeing whit what I earlier said about the black man's environment affecting him

Then u started getting defensive that u never disagreed....

Please sir....how do say an opinion is wrong without disagreeing with the opinion??

. U are are playing with words like you are trying to escape something.....i dont get it

I'm not playing at anything.

I said you generalised about black people and their environment and asked you to be specific.
Or you don't know what it means to generalise and because of that you're finding it difficult to understand me?

Apart from the generalisation, I said no evidence whatsoever that blacks anywhere have limited brain power..You said "limited brain power". Your own very words.
You're a black man . Do you accept you have limited brain power ?