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Just a rubbish sentiment. You will never know who would fail until giving an opportunity to serve. This is Tinubu doing is thing and increasing the poverty rate.
Atiku was just straight forward in many things. He said I will sell the refineries and he was largely criticised and today people are saying that the refinery should be sold.

No doubt

Timmi:
Go and read Obasanjo book. Lazy ineptitude mentality. You want people to research everything for you. If you really want to know, then get up, dust off your behind and go read/study/research and stop playing dumb.

You sound really hurt. What's the problem?

Are you aware that asking questions is the foundation of research?

Since you have read, studied, researched and not playing dumb, am surprised that you can't answer this very simple question for a person of your intellectual level...

What are those Nigerian assets atiku sold to himself?

My Watch
Book by Oluṣẹgun Ọbasanjọ will help you better.

lexy2014:
What are those Nigerian assets atiku sold to himself?

madridguy:
My Watch
Book by Oluṣẹgun Ọbasanjọ will help you better

Did the book not help you?

If it did, use that help that it helped you to answer the question.

What are those Nigerian assets atiku sold to himself?

Bode George is going to support another PDP candidate for 2027. Who could that be.

That was exactly reason why pdp not in power today, but instead for headless mob to accept their mistakes that, 3 big masqurades that supposed to join forces to dislodge monster party at helm of affair, were going separately own their that pave for for monster to continuing unleaching terror. Headless mob are chasing shadow, by blaming INEC, JUDICIARY AND NOW OTHER TRIBE, for the woe they brougt upon themselves

madridguy:
Atiku as a Vice president sold almost every Nigeria assets to himself through his proxies, now imagine him as a president

Tell us about the one there now
As governor, he didn't even sell Lagos, he took it for himself
Now look at what's going on with Oando

emkz:
I don't think it is fair to say Atiku would have failed as president. He is not the president, so the assumption is meaningless.

It was due to selfishness on the part of everyone in PDP that Atiku emerged as candidate. In fairness, the ticket wasn't handed to him; he fought for it like a man. So that is fair. Southern governors met in Asaba and agreed that the south must produce the next president. What then happened? Selfish interests took over, the PDP governors could not implement their own accord, and Atiku went into the competition.

Atiku won.

Had Atiku been able to consolidate his victory by uniting the PDP and bringing back the likes of Kwankwaso, Obi, and G5, he'd have won the 2023 elections. The divisions within the PDP into main PDP, Kwankwaso's NNPPC, Obi's LP and Wike's aso-ebi boys split PDP votes. That split handed victory to President Tinubu. Atiku might have worked to prove himself and immortalize himself as a good president, or he could have ruined his opportunity like a former president did. No one knows for sure.

What pained me about Atiku's case even though I do not support him, is the people that surrounded him. They failed to advise him properly. In this game of politics, bigmanism has its limits; you must stoop and negotiate with those who hold the aces to swing things. You'd make concessions to them. For example, what value did Okowa bring to the ticket? Even after the election, I can't remember Okowa attending the presidential elections petitions tribunal sittings frequently. I also can't remember if he granted interviews as much as Datti Baba-Ahmed did. Okowa was honourable, but aloof, as if he felt Atiku was on his own. If it was Wike that was chosen, you can imagine the onslaught. Now, see the risk Tinubu took, did it pay off for the victory?

Anyway, Atiku is a resilient man, he just doesn't have good friends and good advisers.

He said there could have been unstable polity if Atiku had won,do you think failure in economic policy is the only form of failure? How can a group within the party hold the presidential ticket and also party structure at the same time to the exclusion of other stakeholders and you think there wouldn't be problem? Iyorchia Ayu should have resigned after the PDP primaries

madridguy:
Atiku as a Vice president sold almost every Nigeria assets to himself through his proxies, now imagine him as a president

Obi as a Governor only built brewery for his people to get drunk, instead of building schools. He also allowed Doctors go on strike for almost a year. As a candidate, he also instigated religious war. Now imagine him being the President

lexy2014:
What are those Nigerian assets atiku sold to himself?

Timmi:
Go and read Obasanjo book. Lazy ineptitude mentality. You want people to research everything for you. If you really want to know, then get up, dust off your behind and go read/study/research and stop playing dumb.

He asked a simple question and you’re telling him to go do research on information that he doesn’t even believe exist.
You could’ve just given him the answer before calling him ‘lazy’.
Worse part is you even mentioned Obasanjo’s book were the old man was slating those who didn’t bend to his will of ruling Nigeria for a third term. Mr industrious book reader!

correct.Pa George sabi them better

emkz:
I don't think it is fair to say Atiku would have failed as president. He is not the president, so the assumption is meaningless.

It was due to selfishness on the part of everyone in PDP that Atiku emerged as candidate. In fairness, the ticket wasn't handed to him; he fought for it like a man. So that is fair. Southern governors met in Asaba and agreed that the south must produce the next president. What then happened? Selfish interests took over, the PDP governors could not implement their own accord, and Atiku went into the competition.

Atiku won.

Had Atiku been able to consolidate his victory by uniting the PDP and bringing back the likes of Kwankwaso, Obi, and G5, he'd have won the 2023 elections. The divisions within the PDP into main PDP, Kwankwaso's NNPPC, Obi's LP and Wike's aso-ebi boys split PDP votes. That split handed victory to President Tinubu. Atiku might have worked to prove himself and immortalize himself as a good president, or he could have ruined his opportunity like a former president did. No one knows for sure.

What pained me about Atiku's case even though I do not support him, is the people that surrounded him. They failed to advise him properly. In this game of politics, bigmanism has its limits; you must stoop and negotiate with those who hold the aces to swing things. You'd make concessions to them. For example, what value did Okowa bring to the ticket? Even after the election, I can't remember Okowa attending the presidential elections petitions tribunal sittings frequently. I also can't remember if he granted interviews as much as Datti Baba-Ahmed did. Okowa was honourable, but aloof, as if he felt Atiku was on his own. If it was Wike that was chosen, you can imagine the onslaught. Now, see the risk Tinubu took, did it pay off for the victory?

Anyway, Atiku is a resilient man, he just doesn't have good friends and good advisers.

Claptrap as usual
Some people have no scruples dining with the devil just to gain political power, which is what is reminiscent of third world countries and their politics.
I see you glorifying that transactional form of politics that lacks principles. But why won't you?
Anywhere belle face

Papa George is spot on. Perhaps the outcome would have been different if the PDP ticket was seeded to the South.

lexy2014:
When these people who support tinubu are asked to assess tinubus performance, they will say "it's too early to assess his performance. He needs more time".

When they are asked what they think atiku, obi, sowore and co would have done differently, they will say all these aspirants would have failed as president.

If they can't assess the performance of the person in office, how are they able to assess the performance of obi, atiku, sowore and co who are yet to be in office?

Is it like they are blind to the present but have a crystal ball that helps them tell the future it it's the lens of sycophancy and tribalism that they put on?

Very much spot on

They are simply sycophants

Nothing more

I remember the propaganda of hitting the ground running early June when he took office. They even claimed nta is now delivering "breaking news"!!

They are nothing but sycophants. Empty, bigoted sycophants

Everything they criticised and stood against when PDP was in power, they have found cause to defend and rationalise now that their gods are in office

Obi was the man for the job at the time.

Nigerians are suffering now because they changed God purpose.

OMBIIGA:
Papa George is spot on. Perhaps the outcome would have been different if the PDP ticket was seeded to the South.

This is also another form of tribalism.

Timmi:
Go and read Obasanjo book. Lazy ineptitude mentality. You want people to research everything for you. If you really want to know, then get up, dust off your behind and go read/study/research and stop playing dumb.

You could have just told him though
Instead of hiding behind a book
Just say you don't know
Nor be everything una go take dey do zombeism

madridguy:
Atiku as a Vice president sold almost every Nigeria assets to himself through his proxies, now imagine him as a president

What is Tinubu doing now?

emkz:
I don't think it is fair to say Atiku would have failed as president. He is not the president, so the assumption is meaningless.

It was due to selfishness on the part of everyone in PDP that Atiku emerged as candidate. In fairness, the ticket wasn't handed to him; he fought for it like a man. So that is fair. Southern governors met in Asaba and agreed that the south must produce the next president. What then happened? Selfish interests took over, the PDP governors could not implement their own accord, and Atiku went into the competition.

Atiku won.

Had Atiku been able to consolidate his victory by uniting the PDP and bringing back the likes of Kwankwaso, Obi, and G5, he'd have won the 2023 elections. The divisions within the PDP into main PDP, Kwankwaso's NNPPC, Obi's LP and Wike's aso-ebi boys split PDP votes. That split handed victory to President Tinubu. Atiku might have worked to prove himself and immortalize himself as a good president, or he could have ruined his opportunity like a former president did. No one knows for sure.

What pained me about Atiku's case even though I do not support him, is the people that surrounded him. They failed to advise him properly. In this game of politics, bigmanism has its limits; you must stoop and negotiate with those who hold the aces to swing things. You'd make concessions to them. For example, what value did Okowa bring to the ticket? Even after the election, I can't remember Okowa attending the presidential elections petitions tribunal sittings frequently. I also can't remember if he granted interviews as much as Datti Baba-Ahmed did. Okowa was honourable, but aloof, as if he felt Atiku was on his own. If it was Wike that was chosen, you can imagine the onslaught. Now, see the risk Tinubu took, did it pay off for the victory?

Anyway, Atiku is a resilient man, he just doesn't have good friends and good advisers.

He didn't say Atiku would have failed because he can't govern or lacks capacity. He said he would have failed due to southern resistance to another 8 years for the north. It's all there in the article.

Who still takes this old man serious?

Greedy old man.

Oga rest, all of you are the same, let's talk about the on sit already as president and not someone that is not on sit

lexy2014:
What are those Nigerian assets atiku sold to himself?

madridguy:
My Watch
Book by Oluṣẹgun Ọbasanjọ will help you better.

A book where Obasanjo was slating those that didn’t bend to his will of ruling Nigeria for a third term.
Obasanjo has shown time and time again that he doesn’t possess the moral standing to be taken seriously. Not even his writings.

madridguy:
Atiku as a Vice president sold almost every Nigeria assets to himself through his proxies, now imagine him as a president

Tinubu is worse than Atiku

Throwback:
That is why I laugh at the Yorubas who think they are woke and support Obi, when the majority of his Igbo people like this fellow above only see them as useful traitors.

Except I am a bastard, why would I even associate with people who see me as their enemy, not to talk of championing their own obvious tribal political agenda, when my own tribe also has its own to be championed?

The anthem of Yaba left

[quote author=madridguy post=131663352]Atiku as a Vice president sold almost every Nigeria assets to himself through his proxies, now imagine him as a president [/quote
Oga read your comment again over again and judge yourself if you have brain.. does a vice president have the power to do without the consent of the president? One of the sign of cynics like you is that you will have find all means and possibilities to accuse someone you hate and overlook the reality and if vice president under obasanjo watch can do that then obasanjo is the greatest theif in the world.. How is it funny when during the regime of this person you are accusing Nigeria flourish in amass wealth but during your beloved wicked president poverty rate has gone down 100 percent.. APC and poverty is inseparable

Kukutenla:
Claptrap as usual
Some people have no scruples dining with the devil just to gain political power, which is what is reminiscent of third world countries and their politics.
I see you glorifying that transactional form of politics that lacks principles. But why won't you?
Anywhere belle face

I left the following message for you, and I reproduce it here because it is clear to me that you have a fundamental cognitive problem:

emkz:
I must be so powerful to have infiltrated your subconscious to the point that you feel hollow when you don't read from me and respond to what is not directed to you.

I recall one day when I used to waste my time reading your intellectual malarkey when I thought you had sense and you said you were always moved to respond to me because you did not want me to leave with the impression that I was smarter than you. The problem was that I did not even consider you smart in the first place to regard you beyond someone desperate for my attention.

From the way you follow me all over nairaland to insult me to convince yourself that you are not insignificant, there is only one explanation for your case: you are obsessed with emkz. Even when emkz was banned after tearing you to pieces for trying to provoke him, you were still looking for him to notice you. This is obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD).

Like I advised you in one of your lame attacks I did not read, find something to do with yourself. You think anyone that speaks favourably for the government is paid. That is because you are probably a hack for hire. Some of us used our personal funds to campaign for candidates we believed and believe in. Some of us are competing at the global stage, but Nairaland is a leveller where we have to tolerate nuisances who can't lace our discarded shoes.

The only help I can give you is to ask you to seek professional help because your obsession with emkz is harming you and exposing your personal limitations. You can't afford to be obsessed with me. I am too big for you to ever comprehend. Stop hurting yourself by trying.

Bye!

meditator:
Obi as a Governor only built brewery for his people to get drunk, instead of building schools. He also allowed Doctors go on strike for almost a year. As a candidate, he also instigated religious war. Now imagine him being the President

lexy2014:
The casualties are not only those who are dead.
They are well out of it.
The casualties are not only those who are dead.
Though they await burial by installment.
The casualties are not only those who are lost
Persons or property, hard as it is
To grope for a touch that some
May not know is not there.


The casualties are not only those led away by night.
The cell is a cruel place, sometimes a haven.
Nowhere as absolute as the grave.
The casualties are not only those who started
A fire and now cannot put out. Thousands
Are burning that have no say in the matter.
The casualties are not only those who are escaping.
The shattered shall become prisoners in
A fortress of falling walls.



The casualties are many, and a good number as well
Outside the scenes of ravage and wreck;
They are the emissaries of rift,
So smug in smoke-rooms they haunt abroad,
They do not see the funeral piles
At home eating up the forests.
They are wandering minstrels who, beating on
The drums of the human heart, draw the world
Into a dance with rites it does not know.

The drums overwhelm the guns…
Caught in the clash of counter claims and charges
When not in the niche others left,
We fall.
All casualties of the war.
Because we cannot hear each other speak.
Because eyes have ceased the face from the crowd.
Because whether we know or
Do not the extent of wrongs on all sides,
We are characters now other than before
The war began, the stay-at-home unsettled.


By taxes and rumours, the looters for office
And wares, fearful everyday the owners may return.
We are all casualties,
All sagging as are
The cases celebrated for kwashiorkor.
The unforeseen camp-follower of not just our war

J.P. Clark!

lexy2014:
You sound really hurt. What's the problem?

Are you aware that asking questions is the foundation of research?

Since you have read, studied, researched and not playing dumb, am surprised that you can't answer this very simple question for a person of your intellectual level...

What are those Nigerian assets atiku sold to himself?

You sound really hurt. What's the problem?

Are you aware that asking questions is the foundation of research?

Since you have read, studied, researched and not playing dumb, am surprised that you can't answer this very simple question for a person of your intellectual level...

What are those Nigerian assets atiku sold to himself?

lexy2014:
When these people who support tinubu are asked to assess tinubus performance, they will say "it's too early to assess his performance. He needs more time".

When they are asked what they think atiku, obi, sowore and co would have done differently, they will say all these aspirants would have failed as president.

If they can't assess the performance of the person in office, how are they able to assess the performance of obi, atiku, sowore and co who are yet to be in office?

Is it like they are blind to the present but have a crystal ball that helps them tell the future or it's the lens of sycophancy and tribalism that they put on?

True this. Very true

lexy2014:
Oh, what the unconventional words
April’s last days brought to me here.
You knew that in my heart and thoughts,
Is left that Holy Week of fear.

I was not hearing the knells,
Deploring in the azure-river,
But the bronze laugh – for seven days –
Or crying, like the flowing silver.

And, sadly hiding off my face,
Like before fateful separation,
I was in waiting for the pace
Of her, called since ‘Excruciation’

The Answer
To V. A. Komarovsky
1914

Anna Akhmatova

Good one.