Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years - Politics - Nairaland
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| Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by Islie(op): 3:53pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
The administrations of former President Muhammadu Buhari in the final five months of his term in 2023 and President Bola Tinubu have collectively spent N9.31 trillion on petrol subsidies in 19 months.https://leadership.ng/nigerias-n9-2trn-19-month-petrol-subsidy-surpasses-n8-15trn-spent-in-16-years/
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| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by RealityGod: 3:54pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
God no go forgive una |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by kingsways: 3:57pm On Aug 24, 2024*. Modified: 6:45pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
I believe it’s an impeachable offence to spend public funds without appropriation I don't get how the government who said they removed subsidy and more than trippled fuel retail prices have ended up paying more subsidy than governments who actually did pay subsidy. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by MasterJayJay: 4:02pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
Tinubu is a weapon fashioned against Nigeria. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by Paraman: 4:06pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
What do you expect? The government under Tinubu devalued the naira twice. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by Melagros(m): 4:08pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
COMRADES, Tinubu is not a good leader at all, he lacks leadership skills |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by Racoon(m): 4:09pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
Same fuel subsidy issue both of them have shamelessly lied to this nation that they have done away with but yet have been amassing billion paying same despite the unavailability of petroleum products and lack of adequate stats on daily crude oil consumption in Nigeria. Tinubu and Buhari really dealt with Nigeria |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by misransome: 4:11pm On Aug 24, 2024*. Modified: 3:55am On Aug 26, 2024 |
But Buhari really destroyed things for us. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by AcuraZDX: 4:17pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by greenermodels: 4:20pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
Mm |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by Brendaniel: 4:21pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
Paraman:And people like you supported him to do it... Back to the topic: We warned them about Tinubu, we warned about the way and manner he removed subsidy, we warned about how he floated the naira... We were called haters for speaking the truth... |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by psucc(m): 4:28pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
Tinubu must start where Buhari stopped. Una never see something |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by Ennyjude(f): 4:38pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
Una president dey try |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by nairalanda1(m): 4:44pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
TemplarLandry:You really need to realize that there is a large economic cost to keeping subsidy in NIgeria. Instead, you are here playing politics. It is obvious your party made a mistake keeping subsidy. See the result. 9 TRILLION Lost for nothing. And the money has to be replaced by loans....which means more deficit and more debt. Your party has failed man, and your laughter is begining to wear thin. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by nairalanda1(m): 4:47pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
Paraman:It is a mistaken assumption that devaluing the haira has anything to do with subsidy. At best it would have made the cost of petrol go up to N1500 per liter or more. But as you know, your beloved Tinubu essentially recommenced subsidy in October 2023, and thus, we lost even more money...alongside the money we lost from buhari under subsidy. At the end, that 9trillion leaves a huge deficit in our budgeting, which has to be filled with loans. I don't like GEJ, but looks like you guys goofed when your masters led out you people to disrupt subsidy removal in 2012, which would have been the last time we could have done this painlessly. Karma is always a harsh mistriess. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by FreeStuffsNG: 4:48pm On Aug 24, 2024*. Modified: 7:17pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
There's no more subsidy again. If there's subsidy today then NNPC would not have been able to make trillions in profits and pay dividends! Bring in your petrol and sell at any price. FG will not pay you any subsidy if you choose to do giveaway. May God bless Nigeria for ever! Check my signature for free stuffs!
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| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by nairalanda1(m): 4:48pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
Racoon:Because they are politicans, and most of nigeria prefers cheap fuel, damm the consequences...and politicans will do anything...including sacrificing the economy to Molech, to see that they win elections next season SO, subsidy, even before 2015. We have lost billions over decades from this madness called subsidy. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by nairalanda1(m): 4:56pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
FreeStuffsNG:There is a subsidy. NNPC is being forced to pay for it from those same dividends. Plus if there was no subsidy, that profit would have been much much higher than that |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by nairalanda1(m): 5:01pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
Brendaniel:On subsidy removal and floating the naira, there was nothing that could be done. (That is why some of us believe that subsidy should have gone since 2012, even since 1993) Years , nay decades of trying to keep subsides and keep the naira strong at all costs had led to a situation where the national debt was eating 99% of our revenue. At the end, whoever was in charge was going to make some harsh decisions. This is not about defending tinubu, as I don't support him or any of the candidates, and even believe that APC should have been kicked out last year, but at the point we were, keeping subsides or lkeeping a strong naira was not sustainable. Again, we should have made these decisions over ten years ago. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by FreeStuffsNG: 5:06pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
nairalanda1:You need to go read what subsidy means. Just in case you don't know, in present day Nigeria, you can bring in petrol at any price and sell at any price! Nobody will give you a dime if you sell below your cost price. The closest to what NNPCL is doing is monopoly and not subsidy. It sells at a margin to Federal Government and monopolize that account. That's why it made billions of dollars in profit. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by Penguin2: 5:07pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
And guess what, it’s now being paid into one man’s pocket - Tinubu’s pocket. Tinubu will make of Nigeria what he made of Lagos. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by Brendaniel: 5:14pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
nairalanda1:I doubt there is any global power that doesn't do subsidy... |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by nairalanda1(m): 5:41pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
FreeStuffsNG:NNPC Is the major importer, and imports fuel above N1000 and sells it between N580-750...AND the resulting shortfall is paid for by the government. Subsidy . Just in case you don't know, in present day Nigeria, you can bring in petrol at any price and sell at any price! Nobody will give you a dime if you sell below your cost price.The problem is, a private importer, can't compete with NNPC's subsidised fuel under current conditions. If you were importing fuel as a private importer, your selling price would be above N1200. Meanwhile, NNPC Is selling directly to marketers at a low price below N700. How would you compete? That is how subsidy damages economies . It prevents competition. The closest to what NNPCL is doing is monopoly and not subsidy. It sells at a margin to Federal Government and monopolize that account. That's why it made billions of dollars in profit.And it could have made far more than that if there was no subsidy. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by nairalanda1(m): 5:45pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
Brendaniel:And such subsides are either production subsides...which is what we don't do for our petroleum sector , or subsides for means tested poor people, not for everyone. And all are funded heavily by high tax uptake, and also because the gdp is far larger than Nigeria's gdp, even under the best of times (because many of these global powers earn most of their money from exporting manufactured goods and services, not from exporting oil and other raw materials like Nigeria and most African countries)...they can afford such things. Again, at the end, fuel is sold at market price in most global powers. Government even heavily adds its own tax...which is far higher than what we can concieve here. If we want to be like the global powers, we have to become a manufacutring nation, which we haven't become since independence. And which would require, roughly, several generations of hardship before we get there. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by LagosPrince: 5:46pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
Don't vote for tinubu, he will scatter the country but some people no hear word. Now E don set . |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by Brendaniel: 5:48pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
nairalanda1:No, not just production subsidies, but food, education, healthcare, electricity and so on, if you need details I will supply them for you... |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by nairalanda1(m): 5:52pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
LagosPrince:We should not have voted for APC, but if we had voted for someone else, the same scenairo would have played out. Infact, one thing some Obi supporters were saying was that their man would have done a gradual removal of subsides....say by pegging the price at N300. Which means that subsidy costs would have risen to around N900 per liter by now....which means we would have long since crossed the 10 trillion mark by now. (That is why I believe Obi meant it when he said subsidy would go). Subsidy on petrol always causes issues. If it is not corruption it is smuggling, if it is not smuggling it is loss of domestic refining capacity, and if it is not that, it is high amount of debt. The amount mentioned up there would have been far less if TInubu had not restored subsidy by October 2023. But he did, and here we are . Bad economics is what NIgerian leaders do to get elected. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by nairalanda1(m): 5:55pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
Brendaniel:And I have pointed out to you that we are not a global power, so we don't have the gdp to fund tax on subsides.. Plus, the subsides are not for everyone, as in Nigeria. There is a country that tried all you suggested...in the old USSR, and in many of its fellow communist countries...they subsidised everything....food, healthcare, housing ,etc. The result was scarcity of many food items, as well as badly run public services. (As an example, one American who became a citizen of the DDR was happy to pay just 2 german marks as rent for his house, but that meant that maintenance of the house suffered.) If you want a subsidy, either you pay a tax rate of 50% and live in a country that exports manufactured goods and services....or you end up like the USSR....and the DDR....collapsing under the massive debt incurred in 'keeping subsides'. |
| Re: Nigeria’s N9.2trn 19-month Petrol Subsidy Surpasses N8.15trn Spent In 16 Years by Nobody: 6:36pm On Aug 24, 2024 |
APC o TemplarLandry:Na Obi say make una dey incompetent? 9 years of incompetence |
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