₦airaland Forum

Lezzlie:
The number of doctors fleeing this country abroad , sparking a very dangerous rate of doctor/patient ratio is alarming and a prerequisite for a health crisis. I want to see doctors engage with the Federal Government on this serious matter.

Insecurity is felt by everyone and is not exclusive to medical doctors who are not even targeted by any armed or terrorist group.

Lastly, doctors are held at a higher standard for a reason and should not be downing tools like some artisan or unskilled labourers over a generic matter like this

Some good points.
This is Nigeria.
Some sectors should never be played with.
Doctors, teachers, police, etc


U said insecurity is felt by everyone. Agreed.

Have those people taken drastic measures?

Have we ever as nigerians come out to tell the government that there should be an end inability to rescue kidnap victims.


We are held in high standards but have become objects of mockery.
I see people blaming doctors at every turn forgetting how meagre the workforce is.

Then we gonna lose 1 of our members?



We must learn.

illicit:
Are doctors meant to save a life or save lives...?

This question is very funny...and highly unthinkable.

ItisWell22:
Such a long time. 😢

May she be released. 🙏🤲

Amen,she has a baby that was six months as at then.Her nephew that just gain admission to a school was kidnapped along with her.

May Allah bring her back safely 😢🤲🤲🤲

advocatejare:
You won’t stop displaying your foolishness and ignorance every time.

Mind you, you are the ones always mentioning me like you did now, so be prepared. Don’t turn back and be playing victim card when the heat is much for you to bear!

When did I write that everyone should keep quiet about the kidnapping?

Nigerians are going through enough hardship already, how many of the masses can afford private hospital charges now that doctors have gone on strike?

If every trade union are going on strike when their members are kidnapped, do you think that life will be bearable for you?


Ode, where did you see me write Taraba? Why won’t you be writing rubbish when you only write to argue with your empty head.


Bring out the communique and show where it is stated that the strike is for insecurity and not because of the kidnapped doctor.


Did you see all the Emir declare strike because of that?


You are frustrated with life, your parents did a poor job raising you and that’s why you want to take your frustration on God, i won’t join you in atheist of theism arguments. Carry your frustrations commot my mention or go and meet your parents who were not good examples of theist people and failed to impart your life positively.

Bast.ard are you aware a doctor was kidnapped for a while and just recently released in Anambra. Also many others have benefited kidnapped but nothing have been done and the issue of insecurity has persisted. I asked you for a preferred alternative action for we doctors but you pretended not to see it.
By the way, your great grand parents were poor sods, they didn't impart good idol worshipping ethics into your grand parents, now see what you have turned into, a pig headed religious bigot on Nairaland

jaephoenix:
Bast.ard are you aware a doctor was kidnapped for a while and just recently released in Anambra. Also many others have benefited kidnapped but nothing have been done and the issue of insecurity has persisted. I asked you for a preferred alternative action for we doctors but you pretended not to see it.
By the way, your great grand parents were poor sods, they didn't impart good idol worshipping ethics into your grand parents, now see what you have turned into, a pig headed religious bigot on Nairaland

Yenyenyen

I have gone to read through your post to see why you turn out this unfortunate in life and what I saw made me realize why you have been behaving like a rabid dog everywhere.

You are angry because your father who used to sell alcohol to people and thereby destroying their lives decided to change for good by becoming a Christian and still ended up dying.


So because your father died, you think that God failed you and you decided to revolt against God by not believing in him anymore.


No wonder you are supporting a strike that will lead to the death of many Nigerians. You want other people to become fatherless too. You are a wicked soul


Also, you want me to be an idol worshipper, your problem is that i shouldn’t believe in God. FYI, I’ll continue to be in God, if your Dad died after he repented from his disastrous acts of destroying many lives and turning them into alcoholics, then he is somewhere having eternal rest now but if he didn’t, you will soon end up in hell like him if you don’t retrace your steps and stop being stupid!

When I said that I won’t engage you, what I meant is that I won’t engage you in religious talks. But if you choose to be stupid, irrational and unfortunate, I’ll help to cure you of your folly.

Be my guest, I’ll deal with you!


I’m still awaiting the communique on this strike where the doctors said they are striking against insecurity and not because of their colleague! If you can’t produce it, then you’re a liar like Satan your father!

Lezzlie:
I see where you're coming from and it's difficult to see reasin with you.

But see how hollow your argument is: doctors are going on strike for the release of one of their own and if that one is released, they will call off the strike. So if the country burns they don't care as long as the government pulls all of its resources to free one of their own, then everything can return to status quo. See how your logic falls on its face?

The foolishness on this platform is mind-blowing.

Doctors will not strike on poor medical equipment or poor facilities or lack of TB and malaria medication in the country or the high rate of child-mother mortality rate where Nigeria is a defending champion in death of mother and child.

But will put patients' life in danger for one of their own , going against its own Hippocratic oath.

Even the police, the most hated government agency in Nigeria have more decorum and professionalism than you people.

One of the NUMEROUS examples where doctors went on strike for poor medical equipment: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/8/2/nigerian-doctors-begin-strike-over-pay-inadequate-facilities

Aya, rest, I beg.

advocatejare:
Yenyenyen

I have gone to read through your post to see why you turn out this unfortunate in life and what I saw made me realize why you have been behaving like a rabid dog everywhere.

You are angry because your father who used to sell alcohol to people and thereby destroying their lives decided to change for good by becoming a Christian and still ended up dying.


So because your father died, you think that God failed you and you decided to revolt against God by not believing in him anymore.


No wonder you are supporting a strike that will lead to the death of many Nigerians. You want other people to become fatherless too. You are a wicked soul


Also, you want me to be an idol worshipper, your problem is that i shouldn’t believe in God. FYI, I’ll continue to be in God, if your Dad died after he repented from his disastrous acts of destroying many lives and turning them into alcoholics, then he is somewhere having eternal rest now but if he didn’t, you will soon end up in hell like him if you don’t retrace your steps and stop being stupid!

When I said that I won’t engage you, what I meant is that I won’t engage you in religious talks. But if you choose to be stupid, irrational and unfortunate, I’ll help to cure you of your folly.

Be my guest, I’ll deal with you!

And you also didn't read where I gave explanations how your god doesn't exist? So why should I be angry at a non-existent god? Are you this idio.tic in life? Do you get angry at the Red Unicorn? Reading my story and twisting it won't help your cause.
IDIOTU, PLEASE WHAT ALTERNATIVE OPTION DO DOCTORS HAVE FOR STRIKING? This is the third time I'm asking this question which you have been dodging.
I'm not interested in engaging you on any religious discourse, cost like I told you before, you're too dvmb to have a debate. Just answer the question. Thank you, sir

Lezzlie:
I see where you're coming from and it's difficult to see reasin with you.

But see how hollow your argument is: doctors are going on strike for the release of one of their own and if that one is released, they will call off the strike. So if the country burns they don't care as long as the government pulls all of its resources to free one of their own, then everything can return to status quo. See how your logic falls on its face?

The foolishness on this platform is mind-blowing.

Doctors will not strike on poor medical equipment or poor facilities or lack of TB and malaria medication in the country or the high rate of child-mother mortality rate where Nigeria is a defending champion in death of mother and child.

But will put patients' life in danger for one of their own , going against its own Hippocratic oath.

Even the police, the most hated government agency in Nigeria have more decorum and professionalism than you people.

You guys should stop calling the Hippocratic Oath in your poor blackmailing attempt.

Look up the doctor-patient ratio in Nigeria and you'll get a hint of the number of lives that are equivalent to a single doctor's.

Kidnapping of medical doctors have been occuring across the country...just a few days ago, a group of medical students were kidnapped.

As an organization, it is only natural to fight for the safety of its members, and as has been shown in the Nigerian story, strike seems to be the only language the government understands.

Whether other associations decide to strike or not is not the issue of today.

Turn this energy with which you throw abuses here and there to the government. You and your likes should urge the government to secure the release of this doctor.

You should be aware that it is idiocy for a nation not to prioritize the lives of its healthcare providers.... comparable to what security personnel are going through now. Doctors cannot continue to go to work when one of them has been in captivity since December last year.

Note that going on strike does not mean unstable patients will be ignored. We have our ways of handling this issue.

It's appalling the hatred doctors in this country face. Read through this thread and you'll find folks speaking bitterly of their doctors... people that work in the midst of impossible conditions to provide care.

It's the same way people throw abuses at our security personnel at the slightest opportunity.

Someone up there wrote that Nigerian doctors contribute nothing to healthcare. Imagine the ignorance.

Most Nigerians are ungrateful. Very ungrateful.

Ironic thing is that when their family member falls sick, they still approach this good-for-nothing Nigerian doctor for treatment.

Una well done sha.

TONYE001:
You guys should stop calling the Hippocratic Oath in your poor blackmailing attempt.

Look up the doctor-patient ratio in Nigeria and you'll get a hint of the number of lives that are equivalent to a single doctor's.

Kidnapping of medical doctors have been occuring across the country...just a few days ago, a group of medical students were kidnapped.

As an organization, it is only natural to fight for the safety of its members, and as has been shown in the Nigerian story, strike seems to be the only language the government understands.

Whether other associations decide to strike or not is not the issue of today.

Turn this energy with which you throw abuses here and there to the government. You and your likes should urge the government to secure the release of this doctor.

You should be aware that it is idiocy for a nation not to prioritize the lives of its healthcare providers.... comparable to what security personnel are going through now. Doctors cannot continue to go to work when one of them has been in captivity since December last year.

Note that going on strike does not mean unstable patients will be ignored. We have our ways of handling this issue.

It's appalling the hatred doctors in this country face. Read through this thread and you'll find folks speaking bitterly of their doctors... people that work in the midst of impossible conditions to provide care.

It's the same way people throw abuses at our security personnel at the slightest opportunity.

Someone up there wrote that Nigerian doctors contribute nothing to healthcare. Imagine the ignorance.

Most Nigerians are ungrateful. Very ungrateful.

Ironic thing is that when their family member falls sick, they still approach this good-for-nothing Nigerian doctor for treatment.

Una well done sha.

The medical professional should be held to a higher standard.

The present crop of Nigerian doctors cannot be blackmailed, they don't have neither the training or the responsibility or shame to be blackmailed.

Please where in Nigeria are doctors targeted for kidnapping in this country?

A doctor who disregard the Hippocratic oath, the very oath that sets the medical professional apart, is unfit to be a doctor and should be disbarred.

jaephoenix:
And you also didn't read where I gave explanations how your god doesn't exist? So why should I be angry at a non-existent god? Are you this idio.tic in life? Do you get angry at the Red Unicorn? Reading my story and twisting it won't help your cause.

Are you saying that your parents were foolish to have believed in God and that you are wiser than them to have believed against what they believe?
Anyways, an apple doesn’t fall too far from its tree

IDIOTU, PLEASE WHAT ALTERNATIVE OPTION DO DOCTORS HAVE FOR STRIKING? This is the third time I'm asking this question which you have been dodging.
I'm not interested in engaging you on any religious discourse, cost like I told you before, you're too dvmb to have a debate. Just answer the question. Thank you, sir

If you are a honorable person, provide proof to what you wrote

I’m still awaiting the communique on this strike where the doctors said they are striking against insecurity and not because of their colleague! If you can’t produce it, then you’re a liar like Satan your father!

TONYE001:
One of the NUMEROUS examples where doctors went on strike for poor medical equipment: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/8/2/nigerian-doctors-begin-strike-over-pay-inadequate-facilities

Aya, rest, I beg.

Read your caption again. I see "strike over pay" there without having to open the link"

Funny you picked a foreign site though

blowjohn:
Some good points.
This is Nigeria.
Some sectors should never be played with.
Doctors, teachers, police, etc


U said insecurity is felt by everyone. Agreed.

Have those people taken drastic measures?

Have we ever as nigerians come out to tell the government that there should be an end inability to rescue kidnap victims.


We are held in high standards but have become objects of mockery.
I see people blaming doctors at every turn forgetting how meagre the workforce is.

Then we gonna lose 1 of our members?



We must learn.

okay

advocatejare:
Are you saying that your parents were foolish to have believed in God and that you are wiser than them to have believed against what they believe?
Anyways, an apple doesn’t fall too far from its tree

If you are a honorable person, provide proof to what you wrote

I’m still awaiting the communique on this strike where the doctors said they are striking against insecurity and not because of their colleague! If you can’t produce it, then you’re a liar like Satan your father!

Are saying your great grand parents were foolish enough to become idol worshippers? Why didn’t you become one like them, since you want me to be a Christian like my parents?
I asked you a question before you asked me, so reply mine first

Lezzlie:
Read your caption again. I see "strike over pay" there without having to open the link"

Funny you picked a foreign site though

You are just weird.

Making conclusions without reading the piece?

Does the source matter? Read the link and see whether there's any truth in the post, or not.

Lezzlie:
The medical professional should be held to a higher standard.

The present crop of Nigerian doctors cannot be blackmailed, they don't have neither the training or the responsibility or shame to be blackmailed.

Please where in Nigeria are doctors targeted for kidnapping in this country?

A doctor who disregard the Hippocratic oath, the very oath that sets the medical professional apart, is unfit to be a doctor and should be disbarred.

Alright then.

Carry on.

The strike is ongoing, hopefully, something good comes out of it this time.

I respect your opinion on the matter, I'll disengage you here.

Lezzlie:
The medical professional should be held to a higher standard.

The present crop of Nigerian doctors cannot be blackmailed, they don't have neither the training or the responsibility or shame to be blackmailed.

Please where in Nigeria are doctors targeted for kidnapping in this country?

A doctor who disregard the Hippocratic oath, the very oath that sets the medical professional apart, is unfit to be a doctor and should be disbarred.

Look up the revised version of the Hippocratic oath known as the PHYSICIAN'S PLEDGE by WHO and educate yourself, so you don't speak ignorantly

To paraphrase it, "I'll prioritize my health and well-being physically and mentally, in order to be able to discharge my duties effectively to my patients"

So my friend, doctors going on strike to protest the kidnap of a colleague is them abiding exactly by the OATH they took. Prioritizing their health and well-being physically and mentally

Indian doctors went on Nationwide strike recently because of rape and murder of a colleague, which is in line with the OATH

The anger should be directly towards the government for the insecurity in the country and not on doctors acting within the OATH they took

Lezzlie:
The medical professional should be held to a higher standard.

The present crop of Nigerian doctors cannot be blackmailed, they don't have neither the training or the responsibility or shame to be blackmailed.

Please where in Nigeria are doctors targeted for kidnapping in this country?

A doctor who disregard the Hippocratic oath, the very oath that sets the medical professional apart, is unfit to be a doctor and should be disbarred.

Please can you recite the Hippocratic Oath? Or more importantly tell you what it said? Thank you.
Oh, and here are the litany of doctors kidnapped over a space of 10 years, at different states

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/04/21/nma-decries-incessant-kidnapping-of-doctors-in-aba/

https://articles.nigeriahealthwatch.com/the-kidnapping-of-doctors-and-why-it-matters/

https://gazettengr.com/at-least-10-doctors-victims-of-kidnap-violent-crimes-in-two-months-in-enugu-nma-2/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/medical-dental-consultants-decry-kidnapping-of-cross-river-doctors/%3famp
This particular one pain me cos the woman na my teacher at UCTH
https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/20-doctors-have-been-kidnapped-in-nigeria-in-2021-nma-cries-for-help/yvff7g6

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/11/10-doctors-kidnapped-within-2-months-in-enugu-nma/

https://thesun.ng/doctors-as-endangered-species/

Do you actually think the only reason doctors are running away is cos of money? Security is top of the agenda. And they think we have a lot of money. Lol 😆
So tomorrow it may be me. So something has to be done

jaephoenix:
Are saying your great grand parents were foolish enough to become idol worshippers? Why didn’t you become one like them, since you want me to be a Christian like my parents?
I asked you a question before you asked me, so reply mine first

You didn’t ask me questions first, why are you a liar like this?

I asked you the question at 1:21pm that you should bring out the communique that supported your lies, when did you ask your own question?

Check the screenshot below

Susily:
Look up the revised version of the Hippocratic oath known as the PHYSICIAN'S PLEDGE by WHO and educate yourself, so you don't speak ignorantly

To paraphrase it, "I'll prioritize my health and well-being physically and mentally, in order to be able to discharge my duties effectively to my patients"

So my friend, doctors going on strike to protest the kidnap of a colleague is them abiding exactly by the OATH they took. Prioritizing their health and well-being physically and mentally

Indian doctors went on Nationwide strike recently because of rape and murder of a colleague, which is in line with the OATH

The anger should be directly towards the government for the insecurity in the country and not on doctors acting within the OATH they took

I get tired of lay folks quoting this Hippocratic Oath when they don't even know what's written there. It gets one seriously pissed at how supposedly smart folks are this ignorant

TONYE001:
You guys should stop calling the Hippocratic Oath in your poor blackmailing attempt.

Look up the doctor-patient ratio in Nigeria and you'll get a hint of the number of lives that are equivalent to a single doctor's.

Kidnapping of medical doctors have been occuring across the country...just a few days ago, a group of medical students were kidnapped.

As an organization, it is only natural to fight for the safety of its members, and as has been shown in the Nigerian story, strike seems to be the only language the government understands.

Whether other associations decide to strike or not is not the issue of today.

Turn this energy with which you throw abuses here and there to the government. You and your likes should urge the government to secure the release of this doctor.

You should be aware that it is idiocy for a nation not to prioritize the lives of its healthcare providers.... comparable to what security personnel are going through now. Doctors cannot continue to go to work when one of them has been in captivity since December last year.

Note that going on strike does not mean unstable patients will be ignored. We have our ways of handling this issue.

It's appalling the hatred doctors in this country face. Read through this thread and you'll find folks speaking bitterly of their doctors... people that work in the midst of impossible conditions to provide care.

It's the same way people throw abuses at our security personnel at the slightest opportunity.

Someone up there wrote that Nigerian doctors contribute nothing to healthcare. Imagine the ignorance.

Most Nigerians are ungrateful. Very ungrateful.

Ironic thing is that when their family member falls sick, they still approach this good-for-nothing Nigerian doctor for treatment.

Una well done sha.

That's the more reason you should japa when u can. No patient is worth your life

advocatejare:
You didn’t ask me questions first, why are you a liar like this?

I asked you the question at 1:21pm that you should bring out the communique that supported your lies, when did you ask your own question?

Check the screenshot below

Idiot.a this is the link to my post where I asked the question . Check the time. It was 12.19pm. I know u like lying like your true father, the devil which you people pulled out from your ass

https://www.nairaland.com/8195839/resident-doctors-begin-nationwide-strike/1#131697142

hmohammed:
Sometimes i wonder if Nigerians actually got an education or something else. How is this action logical? Or could it be that Nigerians have psycho issues? You dont mind losing lives in order to save 1 life

Has your brain been kidnapped before?

Lezzlie:
I see where you're coming from and it's difficult to see reasin with you.

But see how hollow your argument is: doctors are going on strike for the release of one of their own and if that one is released, they will call off the strike. So if the country burns they don't care as long as the government pulls all of its resources to free one of their own, then everything can return to status quo. See how your logic falls on its face?

The foolishness on this platform is mind-blowing.

Doctors will not strike on poor medical equipment or poor facilities or lack of TB and malaria medication in the country or the high rate of child-mother mortality rate where Nigeria is a defending champion in death of mother and child.

But will put patients' life in danger for one of their own , going against its own Hippocratic oath.

Even the police, the most hated government agency in Nigeria have more decorum and professionalism than you people.

I don't understand your point. So the doctors should lie low when docs are kidnapped left right and center? Do you have an alternative option to strike we should adhere to?
By the way, here are the instances we have gone on strike for poor equipments, training etc

https://dailypost.ng/2024/04/26/delsuth-resident-doctors-begin-one-week-warning-strike/

https://www.channelstv.com/2024/06/21/ogun-doctors-threaten-strike-over-poor-working-conditions/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/8/2/nigerian-doctors-begin-strike-over-pay-inadequate-facilities

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/07/ojukwu-varsity-doctors-threaten-strike-over-poor-working-conditions/

I have been observing your posts, they reek of ignorance. Try and educate yourself before engaging folks online

Lezzlie:
The number of doctors fleeing this country abroad , sparking a very dangerous rate of doctor/patient ratio is alarming and a prerequisite for a health crisis. I want to see doctors engage with the Federal Government on this serious matter.

Insecurity is felt by everyone and is not exclusive to medical doctors who are not even targeted by any armed or terrorist group.

Lastly, doctors are held at a higher standard for a reason and should not be downing tools like some artisan or unskilled labourers over a generic matter like this

Do you think the government cares if any citizen is kidnapped, whether doc or not?
Dialogue do not move them. Insecurity has been here for 10 years and worsening. What has the government done? Nothing. Just lip service. And it would continue to worsen til citizens protest, revolt etc. That's when they know you're serious. If not, time would come, kidnappers would be going round to kidnap folks in their sleep, and still nothing would happen. By then, I would be safely outta here