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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:46pm On Aug 28, 2024
Jozzy4:
You who understands , only one person know the day and hour? 😂😂😂😂
The FATHER knows

The Holy Spirit knows God's mind

You're the one USING PERSON for your dubious reason
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Jozzy4: 4:50pm On Aug 28, 2024
Emusan:
The FATHER knows
" ONLY " The Father knows 😂😂

The Holy Spirit knows God's mind

You're the one USING PERSON for your dubious reason
Don't be ashamed, both are two persons . Tell us how many Knows 😂😂😂😂
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:53pm On Aug 28, 2024
Jozzy4:
" ONLY " The Father knows 😂😂
Don't be ashamed, both are two persons . Tell us how many Knows 😂😂😂😂
I thought they said Holy Spirit is a person so how come two persons knows something yet Jesus said ONLY the father? huh
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 5:01pm On Aug 28, 2024
Jozzy4:
"ONLY " The Father knows 😂😂
Yes!

Don't be ashamed, both are two persons . Tell us how many Knows 😂😂😂😂
The Holy Spirit knows the very MIND OF GOD.

TRUE OR FALSE?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Jozzy4: 5:27pm On Aug 28, 2024
Emusan:
Yes!



The Holy Spirit knows the very MIND OF GOD.

TRUE OR FALSE?
Shey holy spirit no be person again ni?

Why e hard you to say TWO persons Know

😂😂😂😂😂😂
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Jozzy4: 5:27pm On Aug 28, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
I thought they said Holy Spirit is a person so how come two persons knows something yet Jesus said ONLY the father? huh
😂😂😂😂
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 5:32pm On Aug 28, 2024
Jozzy4:
Shey holy spirit no be person again ni?
Have proved that times without number.

He is a PERSON that is why He has the ability TO KNOW.

Why e hard you to say TWO persons Know 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jesus didn't use PERSON but The Father.

So, you know the reason WHY YOU DUBIOUSLY CHANGE FATHER TO PERSON.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Jozzy4: 5:42pm On Aug 28, 2024
Emusan:
Have proved that times without number.

He is a PERSON that is why He has the ability TO KNOW.

Jesus didn't use PERSON but The Father.


So, you know the reason WHY YOU DUBIOUSLY CHANGE FATHER TO PERSON.
Trinity in the mudddddd
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:45pm On Aug 28, 2024
Emusan:
Have proved that times without number.
He is a PERSON that is why He has the ability TO KNOW.
Jesus didn't use PERSON but The Father.
So, you know the reason WHY YOU DUBIOUSLY CHANGE FATHER TO PERSON.
Please let me get something straight.

You trinitarians always say your God is three PERSONS in ONE, Please which of these three is not a PERSON:

The Father.
The Son.
The Holy Ghost or Spirit. undecided
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 5:47pm On Aug 28, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Please let me get something straight.

You trinitarians always say your God is three PERSONS in ONE (GOD), Please which of these three is not a PERSON:

The Father.
The Son.
The Holy Ghost or Spirit. undecided
Before I answer your question, what make a BEING to be called a PERSON?

I shoot ALL OF RHEM ARE PERSON according the scripture!
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 5:48pm On Aug 28, 2024
Jozzy4:
Trinity in the mudddddd
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why didn't you provide where Jesus used the term PERSON?

grin cheesy grin grin grin
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:55pm On Aug 28, 2024
Emusan:
Before I answer your question, what make a BEING to be called a PERSON?
I shoot ALL OF RHEM ARE PERSON according the scripture!
Well i think a person is somebody that can't be excluded when talking about individuals, for instance i can't mention names of persons on NL who always follow me up and down the forum without mentioning Emusan because i believe you're a person! undecided
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Jozzy4: 10:03am On Aug 29, 2024
Emusan:
Why didn't you provide where Jesus used the term PERSON?

grin cheesy grin grin grin
Trinity in the mud 😂😂😂😂🤣

So you are denying the person hood of the The Father and Holy spirit now. What a useless doctrine
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by MightySparrow: 11:00am On Aug 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Please let me get something straight.

You trinitarians always say your God is three PERSONS in ONE, Please which of these three is not a PERSON:

The Father.
The Son.
The Holy Ghost or Spirit. undecided
None
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:08pm On Aug 29, 2024
Jozzy4:
Trinity in the mud 😂😂😂😂🤣

So you are denying the person hood of the The Father and Holy spirit now. What a useless doctrine
Shouting Trinity in mud million times won't stop the fact that you haven't proof where Jesus used the word PERSON.

Can you imagine...

I'm here proving the Person hood of the Holy Spirit using the scripture which you haven't countered and you're saying "I'm DENYING the same person hood"

O ma se ooo
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:34pm On Aug 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Well i think a person is somebody that can't be excluded when talking about individuals, for instance i can't mention names of persons on NL who always follow me up and down the forum without mentioning Emusan because i believe you're a person! undecided
Incoherent jargons.

What makes a BEING A PERSON is my question.

Consult your English dictionary for assistant.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Jozzy4: 10:13pm On Aug 30, 2024
Emusan:
Shouting Trinity in mud million times won't stop the fact that you haven't proof where Jesus used the word PERSON.

Can you imagine...


I'm here proving the Person hood of the Holy Spirit
using the scripture which you haven't countered and you're saying "I'm DENYING the same person hood"

O ma se ooo
Since you are proving the person hood.

@underlined, so once again: How many persons know the day and hour ? 😂

A. One person

B. Two persons.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:01pm On Aug 31, 2024
Jozzy4:
Since you are proving the person hood.@underlined, so once again: How many persons know the day and hour ? 😂

A. One person

B. Two persons.
Number 1 fact: Holy Spirit is PERSON....
Number 2 fact: Jesus said ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS THE HOUR
Number 3 fact: Holy spirit knows GOD'S MIND
Number 4 fact: You decided to use the word PERSON for your fraudulent motives.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Jozzy4: 8:54am On Sep 01, 2024
Emusan:
Number 1 fact: Holy Spirit is PERSON....
Number 2 fact: Jesus said ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS THE HOUR
Number 3 fact: Holy spirit knows GOD'S MIND
Number 4 fact: You decided to use the word PERSON for your fraudulent motives.
If 1 is true, Do you agree two persons know the day and hour?

If 1 is False , Do you agree only the Father knows ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m):
Jozzy4:
If 1 is true, Do you agree two persons know the day and hour?

If 1 is False , Do you agree only the Father knows ?
Yes! 1 is true and not only that ALL THE THREE PERSONS OF THE HOLY TRINITY KNOW.

Quote the scripture and not your permutation.

Holy spirit knows God's mind, true or false?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Jozzy4: 6:57pm On Sep 01, 2024
Emusan:
Yes! 1 is true and not only that ALL THE THREE PERSONS OF THE HOLY TRINITY KNOW.

Quote the scripture and not your permutation.

Holy spirit knows God's mind, true or false?
Vs

ONLY THE FATHER

Jesus = ONLY THE FATHER/ONE PERSON know the day and hour

Emusan = You lied, Father , son , holy spirit knows, Three person's know the day and hour. It's not only the Father you liar .

You just make the Lord a Liar, you this shameless trinitarian?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by achorladey:
@ Emusan....

Matthew 24:36.....Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.

Revelation 19:12 His eyes are a fiery flame, and on his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself,

Their revelation book explaining the revelation account.....


What is the written name that Jesus has?

7 John’s description continues: “He has a name written that no one knows but he himself.” (Revelation 19:12b) The Bible already speaks of God’s Son by names such as Jesus, Immanuel, and Michael. But this unstated “name” appears to stand for the position and privileges that Jesus enjoys during the Lord’s day. (Compare Revelation 2:17.) Isaiah, describing Jesus since 1914, says: “His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6) The apostle Paul associated Jesus’ name with His very high privileges of service when he wrote: “God exalted [Jesus] to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend.”​—Philippians 2:9, 10.

8. Why is it that only Jesus can know the name written, and with whom does he share some of his lofty privileges?

8 Jesus’ privileges are unique. Apart from Jehovah himself, only Jesus can comprehend what it means to hold such a high position. (Compare Matthew 11:27.) Therefore, of all God’s creatures, only Jesus can fully appreciate this name. Nevertheless, Jesus does include his bride in some of these privileges. So he makes this promise: “The one that conquers . . . I will write upon him . . . that new name of mine.”​—Revelation 3:12.


Another perspective about their take on Matthew 24:36......

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1996567
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 6:57pm On Sep 02, 2024
Jozzy4:
Vs

ONLY THE FATHER

Jesus = ONLY THE FATHER/ONE PERSON know the day and hour

Emusan = You lied, Father , son , holy spirit knows, Three person's know the day and hour. It's not only the Father you liar .

You just make the Lord a Liar, you this shameless trinitarian?
Yes! Holy Spirit knows God's mind.
That makes the Holy spirit to be a person and whoever knows your mind actually knows ALL THINGS.

Jesus as the Word of God and God Almighty is ONE with the Father.

Just as @achorladey piint ed out as quoted in that Rev Jesus has a NAME only Him knows, I know you won't hesitate to say of course the Father will know the name as well.

Neglecting the that fact the scripture was clear as ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 6:58pm On Sep 02, 2024
achorladey:
@ Emusan....

Matthew 24:36.....Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.

Revelation 19:12 His eyes are a fiery flame, and on his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself,

Their revelation book explaining the revelation account.....


What is the written name that Jesus has?

7 John’s description continues: “He has a name written that no one knows but he himself.” (Revelation 19:12b) The Bible already speaks of God’s Son by names such as Jesus, Immanuel, and Michael. But this unstated “name” appears to stand for the position and privileges that Jesus enjoys during the Lord’s day. (Compare Revelation 2:17.) Isaiah, describing Jesus since 1914, says: “His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6) The apostle Paul associated Jesus’ name with His very high privileges of service when he wrote: “God exalted [Jesus] to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend.”​—Philippians 2:9, 10.

8. Why is it that only Jesus can know the name written, and with whom does he share some of his lofty privileges?

8 Jesus’ privileges are unique. Apart from Jehovah himself, only Jesus can comprehend what it means to hold such a high position. (Compare Matthew 11:27.) Therefore, of all God’s creatures, only Jesus can fully appreciate this name. Nevertheless, Jesus does include his bride in some of these privileges. So he makes this promise: “The one that conquers . . . I will write upon him . . . that new name of mine.”​—Revelation 3:12.


Another perspective about their take on Matthew 24:36......

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1996567
Since ONLY Jesus knows according to him that means Jehovah isn't God.

More palava for those who are lack scriptural understanding
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by achorladey: 7:49pm On Sep 02, 2024
Emusan:
Since ONLY Jesus knows according to him that means Jehovah isn't God.

More palava for those who are lack scriptural understanding
Another round of twisting and manipulation will enter. grin grin grin grin

That's why those familiar with them knows the many inconsistency in their explanation of scripture which expose the lies and manipulations of the Bible.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Jozzy4: 10:15pm On Sep 02, 2024
Emusan:
Yes! Holy Spirit knows God's mind.
That makes the Holy spirit to be a person and whoever knows your mind actually knows ALL THINGS.

Jesus as the Word of God and God Almighty is ONE with the Father.

Just as @achorladey piint ed out as quoted in that Rev Jesus has a NAME only Him knows, I know you won't hesitate to say of course the Father will know the name as well.

Neglecting the that fact the scripture was clear as ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS.
He has a name "WRITTEN " . The writer is excluded. The word " Written" indicated an action of writing.

The same way it says at Rev 2:17 that the person from that congregation who conquers has a name written which only him knows. Once again, excluding the writer.

I need to know : Who gave the Father the permission or right to know the day and hour so we can exclude him?

Secondly, no one knows the Father deeply than the son, Are you saying holy spirit knows the Father much more than the son who doesn't know ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:28pm On Sep 02, 2024
Jozzy4:
He has a name "WRITTEN " . The writer is excluder. The word " Written" indicated an action of writing.

The same way it says at Rev 2:17 that the one who is victorious has a name written which only him knows. Once again, excluding the writer.

I need to know : Who gave the Father the permission or right to know the day and hour so we can exclude him?

Secondly, no one knows the Father deeply than the son, Are you saying holy spirit knows the Father much more than the son who doesn't know ?
Òpùrọ́ ń gbin'lá
Oníwàyó ń gbìn'gbàdo
Sínú oko t'álábòsí dá

The liar is planting okra
While the dubious is planting corn
On the farmland of the hypocrite.


No matter how clear the fact liars will always back each other but watch how they will end their friendship it's right on the spot when truth takes it's leave.
So they knew what they're saying is lies but as long as truth is around they will continue parting each other's back.
On the other thread a misinformed churchgoer is arguing blindly that Abraham and David are Christians despite all biblical evidence that since Jesus hasn't come nobody can become his follower.
The apostate continue to hail the churchgoer who keeps begging me to agree with him! cheesy
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by achorladey:
MaxInDHouse:
Òpùrọ́ ń gbin'lá
Oníwàyó ń gbìn'gbàdo
Sínú oko t'álábòsí dá

The liar is planting okra
While the dubious is planting corn
On the farmland of the hypocrite.


No matter how clear the fact liars will always back each other but watch how they will end their friendship it's right on the spot when truth takes it's leave.
So they knew what they're saying is lies but as long as truth is around they will continue parting each other's back.
On the other thread a misinformed churchgoer is arguing blindly that Abraham and David are Christians despite all biblical evidence that since Jesus hasn't come nobody can become his follower.
The apostate continue to hail the churchgoer who keeps begging me to agree with him! cheesy
Pains of that thread reach here grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

No matter how clear the fact liars will always back each other but watch how they will end their friendship it's right on the spot when truth takes it's leave.
Liars and manipulators like Achorladey = Emusan in your madness and insanities peddling brains which originate your being a worst fool grin grin cheesy cheesy

So they knew what they're saying is lies but as long as truth is around they will continue parting each other's back.
Had your brains think deeply about the response you will see this....

Secondly, no one knows the Father deeply than the son
No one knows go soon get head. I know your madness and insanities peddling brains don't commend your colleagues believing your lies as worst fools grin cheesy grin

On the other thread a misinformed churchgoer is arguing blindly that Abraham and David are Christians despite all biblical evidence that since Jesus hasn't come nobody can become his follower.
tctrills the pains don reach here ooooi grin cheesy grin

The apostate continue to hail the churchgoer who keeps begging me to agree with him!
The person that tells us prophecy is not knowledge, Christian know Jesus partially does not mean the likes of the Israelites who know Jesus partially does not mean they believe Jesus grin cheesy cheesy

Achorladey = Emusan

Courz = Oteneaaron

You can keep peddling........

Òpùrọ́ ń gbin'lá
Oníwàyó ń gbìn'gbàdo
Sínú oko t'álábòsí dá

The liar is planting okra
While the dubious is planting corn
On the farmland of the hypocrite.
It surely fit your madness and insanities peddling brains.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by tctrills: 10:53pm On Sep 02, 2024
achorladey:
Pains of that thread reach here grin cheesy cheesy cheesy



Liars and manipulators like Achorladey = Emusan on your madness and insanities peddling brains which originate your being a worst fool grin grin cheesy cheesy



Had your brains think deeply about the response you will see this....



No one knows go soon get head. I know your madness and insanities peddling brains don't commend your colleagues believing your lies as worst fools grin cheesy grin



tctrills the pains don reach here ooooi grin cheesy grin



The person that tells us prophecy is not knowledge, Christian know Jesus partially does not mean the likes of the Israelites who know Jesus partially does not mean they believe Jesus grin cheesy cheesy

Achorladey = Emusan

Courz = Oteneaaron

You can keep peddling........



It surely fit your madness and insanities peddling brains.
When a man depends on false prophets he will always get himself confused. That is the problem with our Jw friend. I keep asking MaxInDHouse and his gang, should we believe you or do we believe the bible. When Jesus said, "No man can come to the Father but by me but then our JW brothers tell us that the men of the Old Testament were capable of coming to the Father without Christ, who do we believe? Do we believe them or do we believe Christ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by tctrills: 11:09pm On Sep 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
It simply means Holy Spirit can't be a person if Jesus said "only the father" after excluding the Son therefore the concept of Trinity is false, there can't be three persons in one yet Jesus said he himself who is the Son doesn't know something and goes further to say "only the father knows"

So had it been your friend agreed that the Holy Spirit is not a person it would make sense that IT could know but if it's a person Jesus wouldn't have used the phrase "only the father" after all there supposed to be three in One person.

Emusan already knew he has lost it but as usual he will continue arguing blindly waiting for you to turn it into exchange of insults to trash the whole issue in the mud. smiley
According to JW doctrine, man had the capacity to come unto the Father directly but sometime between 6 BC and 4 BC he lost that ability and since then no man could come to the Father without Christ.
The false teachings of men. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by achorladey: 11:13pm On Sep 02, 2024
tctrills:
When a man depends on false prophets he will always get himself confused. That is the problem with our Jw friend. I keep asking MaxInDHouse and his gang, should we believe you or do we believe the bible. When Jesus said, "No man can come to the Father but by me but then our JW brothers tell us that the men of the Old Testament were capable of coming to the Father without Christ, who do we believe? Do we believe them or do we believe Christ?
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

He already said he trust his GODS of men housed in USA 100% completely and with the same mouth counter what he said. Whenever he sees what he calls their humble Bible knowledge rejected. It does not sit well with him. You see him going to different thread to reference to console his lying and manipulated brains.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by tctrills: 11:26pm On Sep 02, 2024
achorladey:
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

He already said he trust his GODS of men housed in USA 100% completely and with the same mouth counter what he said. Whenever he sees what he calls their humble Bible knowledge rejected. It does not sit well with him. You see him going to different thread to reference to console his lying and manipulated brains.
MaxInDHouse spend hours doing a research to find all my old posts on Nairaland. It was so funny when I saw it yesterday. If only he spends such quality time studying his bible, he would not be where is presently is. grin grin grin grin
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