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MaxInDHouse:
Jesus returned in the year 1914!

Still lying against Jesus.

Emusan:
Still lying against Jesus.

What i believe!

MaxInDHouse:
What i believe!

Which is wrong without scriptural and archeaological backing.

OR do you think EVERY BELIEVE is right?

Emusan:
Which is wrong without scriptural and archeaological backing. OR do you think EVERY BELIEVE is right?

There are many books regarded as scriptures and there are countless interpretations that led to uncountable doctrines so i don't say any belief is wrong it depends on the believer with his or her beliefs, my understanding is that the one that's WORKING what is BENEFICIAL i will go for along with my fellow believers! Matthew 12:46-50

So i believe in the doctrine of 1914 as i can see that everything written in the scriptures about what i believe has been happening just as i was made to believe.

MaxInDHouse:
There are many books regarded as scriptures and there are countless interpretations that led to uncountable doctrines so i don't say any belief is wrong it depends on the believer with his or her beliefs, my understanding is that the one that's WORKING what is BENEFICIAL i will go for along with my fellow believers! Matthew 12:46-50

The @color part reinforced that you're unrepentant liar

So i believe in the doctrine of 1914 as i can see that everything written in the scriptures about what i believe has been happening just as i was made to believe.

Everything written in the scripture yet you can't provide a single verse to back 1914.

So which scripture did you see 1914?

Emusan:
The @color part reinforced that you're unrepentant liar. Everything written in the scripture yet you can't provide a single verse to back 1914. So which scripture did you see 1914?

Please quote where i said a belief is WRONG!

Of course Jesus never mentioned any date but everything he mentioned in the Bible book of Matthew 24:7-14 has been unfolding since the year 1914

That's why i believe that it's true he was enthroned that year.

false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses from jwfacts dot com

The Jehovah's Witness religion incorrectly predicted the end would occur in 1914, which shows it is directed by humans and not God. To find that the leaders continue to lie about what was said is more disturbing, as it shows the leaders actively colluded to deceive and manipulate their followers.

Reality Check

The only aspect of Russell's 1914 prediction to remain is the term "end of the Gentile times." Though the term is still in use, the meaning has greatly changed. Before 1914, this meant that earthly governments would end in total destruction and false religion would be overturned, heralding God's kingdom on earth. Now it simply means that Jesus is ruling in heaven, a handy concept as it is invisible, unnoticed

Jesus began ruling in heaven In the year 1914!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus began ruling in heaven In the year 1914!

paranoid lost false jw mad max

you follow my articles from the internet up and down in threads,
posting the same things over and over and over again,
that's okay, you crazy


paranoia of course is a fearful mental disease:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

johnw47:
you follow my articles.

On my own thread o!

Surely something is wrong with your brain!

MaxInDHouse:
On my own thread o!
Surely something is wrong with your brain!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


oh duh most dum lost false jw mad max

it doesn't matter whose thread it is, you follow my internet articles up and down
posting your same repetitive obsessive compulsions over and over and over again

you real confused, aren't you, talk about something wrong with your brain:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses from jwfacts dot com

1881

1881 became the next prophesied year that the sealing of the 144,000 was to be complete. This was to be at the end of 7 harvest years after the jubilee cycles had ended in 1874.

"the gathering of the bride into the place of safety, will occupy a parallel of seven years of time, ending in 1881" Zion's Watch Tower 1881 January p.1

"To our understanding the general call to this joint heirship with our Redeemer as members of the New Creation of God, ceased in 1881." Studies In the Scriptures Series VI - New Creation 1915 ed. p.95

"As in the type that date - three and a half years after the death of Christ - marked the end of all special favor to the Jew and the beginning of favor to the Gentiles, so we recognize A.D. 1881 as marking the close of the high calling, or invitation to the blessing peculiar to this age - to become joint-heirs with Christ and partakers of the divine nature." Studies In the Scriptures Series II - The Time Is At Hand 1915 ed. p.235

"The General Call To The High Calling Ceased-9 Even though the general call ceased in 1881, the door to the high calling remains open, as shown by number 9. However, it is only when one who is spirit begotten has to be replaced, (on account of being overcharged with the cares of this world, or sinful living, or loss of faith), that one, desirous of doing the Father's will, is invited to enter the narrow way as a replacement. The door to the high calling will remain open until the bride has made herself ready." Explanation of Chart Representing the Plan of the Ages

"It was also reasoned that the end of God's special favor to natural Israel down to 36 C.E. might point to 1881 as the time when the special opportunity to become part of spiritual Israel would close." Jehovah's Witnesses-Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.632

Once again it was believed that the remaining of the 144,000 would be taken by the rapture straight to heaven. In January 1881 the Watchtower stated that "the translation or change from the natural to the spiritual condition, [is] due this side or by the fall of our year 1881."

Jesus returned in the year 1914!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus returned in the year 1914!

And it will continue to be most lie against God and His word.

MaxInDHouse:
Please quote where i said a belief is WRONG!

Of course Jesus never mentioned any date but everything he mentioned in the Bible book of Matthew 24:7-14 has been unfolding since the year 1914

That's why i believe that it's true he was enthroned that year.

You did HERE

Lying liar Jws like his father the Devil.

Jesus Christ returned in the year 1914!

false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses from jwfacts dot com

Russell stated in Zion's Watch Tower 1892 Jan 1 p.22 that "never was there such a general time of banding together as at present." Yet all this weight of evidence that the 1800's were the "last days" has since been discarded. Today, only one prophecy is used to specifically point to 1914 as the start of Jesus presence; that is, the Seven Times. The other scriptural proofs are now considered to have been wrong.

As impressive as Russell's reasoning looks, it was progressively changed as one prediction after another failed to eventuate. Russell originally wrote that the Bible Students ascension to heaven and the fall of Babylon were to happen in years prior to 1914. 1914 was just the date when the Gentile times would end and paradise be established on earth. As his predictions failed to eventuate these occurrences were moved to 1914. Russell was clearly wrong when not one of these had occurred by the end of 1914

false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses from jwfacts dot com

1914

1914 has been a pivotal date for the Watchtower. The expectations prior to 1914 included it being the end of the Gentile Times, the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all governments, the resurrection, the start of Jesus 1000 year reign and paradise on earth.

1914!

MaxInDHouse:
1914!

The year Watchtower lied against God and His word that Jesus return when Jesus said "NO ONE KNOWS THE DATE" this singular statement from Jesus Christ actually proved anyone talking about A SPECIFIC DATE as a false teacher.

The funny thing is, you agreed Jesus never talked about 1914

The same you also agree that just as Jesus never spoke about ANY SPECIFIC DATE Watchtower are the true followers of Jesus for not MENTIONING ANY SPECIFIC DATE

The same you still shouting 1914 which is a SPECIFIC DATE in which Jesus never mentioned nor ANY ONE KNOWS EXCEPT THE FATHER.

Very pathetic with a lying lair speaking from both side of his mouth.

Since the year 1914!

false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

"We shall be as glad as any one if we shall all experience our change from earthly to spirit conditions before 1915, and and this is our expectation; but if this should not be the Lord's will, then it would not be our will. So far as we have been able to see up to the present time, the failure of a full development of matters in 1915, or before, would imply that all the chronological arrangements, as we have them, are wrong--our view of the Harvest and all. And we have no reason to believe that these are wrong. We remember that we are not infallible, and that our judgment is not infallible; but the wonderful inventions of today, and the light that is dawning in every direction, as well as the universal unrest, seem in corroboration of the chronology--that we are in the dawning of the New Age. But just how far along we are we do not positively know." Watch Tower 1914 Jan 1 p.5 (reprints 5374)

When Jesus earthly kingdom did not eventuate in 1914, Watchtower publications began to promote 1915. When 1915 amounted to nothing, the entire meaning of all Russell's prophetic interpretation required rewriting. It took until 1943[2] for the new understanding to finally be clarified.

johnw47:
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

"We shall be as glad as any one if we shall all experience our change from earthly to spirit conditions before 1915, and and this is our expectation; but if this should not be the Lord's will, then it would not be our will. So far as we have been able to see up to the present time, the failure of a full development of matters in 1915, or before, would imply that all the chronological arrangements, as we have them, are wrong--our view of the Harvest and all. And we have no reason to believe that these are wrong. We remember that we are not infallible, and that our judgment is not infallible; but the wonderful inventions of today, and the light that is dawning in every direction, as well as the universal unrest, seem in corroboration of the chronology--that we are in the dawning of the New Age. But just how far along we are we do not positively know." Watch Tower 1914 Jan 1 p.5 (reprints 5374)

When Jesus earthly kingdom did not eventuate in 1914, Watchtower publications began to promote 1915. When 1915 amounted to nothing, the entire meaning of all Russell's prophetic interpretation required rewriting. It took until 1943[2] for the new understanding to finally be clarified.

This uncertainty in prophecy interpretations was part of JW's dumping Russell as their founder and shifted to Rutherford.

MaxInDHouse:
Since the year 1914!

January or June?

Emusan:
And it will continue to be most lie against God and His word.

JWs' Jesus returned on 31 , February, 1914.

Emusan:
You did HERE

Lying liar Jws like his father the Devil.

MaxInDHouse: Jesus Christ returned in the year 1914!

Emusan: The year Watchtower lied against God and His word that Jesus return when Jesus said "NO ONE KNOWS THE DATE" this singular statement from Jesus Christ actually proved anyone talking about A SPECIFIC DATE as a false teacher.

The funny thing is, you agreed Jesus never talked about 1914

The same you also agree that just as Jesus never spoke about ANY SPECIFIC DATE Watchtower are the true followers of Jesus for now MENTIONING ANY SPECIFIC DATE

The same you still shouting 1914 which is a SPECIFIC DATE in which Jesus never mentioned nor ANY ONE KNOWS EXCEPT THE FATHER.

Very pathetic with a lying lair speaking from both side of his mouth.

MaxInDHouse: Since the year 1914!

emusan, mad max is following you up and down too
with his repetitive obsessive compulsions, which is mental disease


a few of mad max's disorders;
uncontrollable repetitive obsessive compulsions > Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD)
Paranoia
Delusions of Grandeur

false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

"In the year 1943 the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society published the book "The Truth Shall Make You Free." ... This moved forward the end of six thousand years of man's existence into the decade of the 1970's. Naturally this did away with the year 1874 C.E. as the date of return of the Lord Jesus Christ and the beginning of his invisible presence or parousia. ... Page 324 of the above book positively says: "The King's presence or parousia began in 1914."" God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years Has Approached pp.209-210

Why has the Watchtower Society discontinued its belief in all their original date interpretations but retained 1914? The occurrence of World War One appeared to give 1914 historical significance whilst none are able to be attached to any of the other 20 or so dates promoted. However, the Watchtower explanation of the prophecy of the Seven Times is examined and shown to be based on historical errors and inconsistent reasoning, leaving no reason to say that 1914 is of any relevance to us today.

Jesus returned in the year 1914!

false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

Blame the Members

As soon as proven wrong about 1914, Russell went into damage control, dishonestly rewriting history. Reading through the older publications, it is evident how forcefully the predictions for 1914 were presented as truth. Russell began claiming his teachings were nothing more than inference.

“The Lord did not say that the Church would all be glorified by 1914. We merely inferred it and, evidently, erred.” Watch Tower 1916 Apr 15 reprints p.5888

“We did not say positively that this would be the year. We merely left every one to look at the facts of history and reckon for himself. ... But would it be a reasonable expectation that the Gentile Kingdoms would be snuffed out inside of an hour or inside of a day? ... We do not think that any would have been justified in so thinking. If any had such expectation, it was unwarranted.” Watch Tower 1914 Nov 1 pp.325-326 reprints p.5565

Even more unsavoury is the manner in which Russell attacked the motives of those that stopped being his followers.

"If there is any reason that would lead any to let go of the Lord and His Truth and to cease sacrificing for the Lord’s Cause, then it is not merely the love of God in the heart which has prompted interest in the Lord, but something else; probably a hoping that the time was short; the consecration was only for a certain time. If so, now is a good time to let go.” Watch Tower 1914 Nov 1 reprints p.5570

"The present is a time of testing, we believe, to many of the Lord's people. Have we in the past been active merely because we hoped for our glorious change in A.D. 1914, or have we been active because of our love and loyalty to the Lord and his message and the brethren!" Watch Tower 1915 Mar 1 reprints p.5649

The beginning of restoration in the year 1914!

false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

Those that stopped following Russell did so because they came to the conclusion he was a charlatan. They did not "let go of the Lord", but rather came to realise that Russell and his interpretations could not be trusted. It is of extreme arrogance for Russell to equate those that stopped following his failed teachings with leaving the Lord, and of impure motives, and it is of little wonder that many came to recognise him as a false teacher.

Rutherford continued with this strategy of blaming members for their enthusiasm in accepting Watchtower information as truth.

"It seems to be a weakness of many Bible Students that if they locate a future date in the Bible, immediately they center as many prophecies upon that date as possible. This has been the cause of many siftings in the past. As far as we recall, all the dates foreseen were correct. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, there were inclined to throw away everything. ... Many can remember how "absolutely sure" some were about 1914. No doubt the Lord was pleased with the zeal manifested by his servants; but did they have a Scriptural basis for all they expected to come to pass that year? Let us be cautious, therefore about predicting particulars." Watch Tower 1925 Feb 15 p.57

It is disappointing to note Watchtower continues being critical of these individuals in the early 1900's, rather than lay blame where it squarely belongs, on Watchtower leaders.

The year 1914!