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Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Rossikk(op): 5:19pm On Aug 31, 2024
In the middle belt to north west we have ethnic groups whose people bear names like Nandong, Nanjing, Nantang, Nanfwang, Fogyang, Fungo, Tarweng, etc.

Their languages also sound AMAZINGLY Chinese/Japanese etc.

I also noticed that people from there tend to have those slanty thin Chinese - type eyes.

Are NIGERIANS the remote ancestors of the Chinese?
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by illicit(m): 6:16pm On Aug 31, 2024
No relations...
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Rossikk(op): 6:22pm On Aug 31, 2024
illicit:
No relations...
Explain the connections.

Linguistic and physiognomical.

If you went to a remote country where the natives bore names like Jack, Michael, Esther and Oliver, you would conclude immediately they must have had ancient contact with the English.

So what’s the difference here?

Why are Nigerians bearing clearly Chinese names, or you are not aware of it?

Actually the more accurate question would be

“Why are the Chinese bearing Nigerian names?”
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by illicit(m): 6:23pm On Aug 31, 2024
Rossikk:
Explain the connections.

Linguistic and physiognomical.
Mere coincidence if any exists at all
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Rossikk(op): 6:26pm On Aug 31, 2024
illicit:
Mere coincidence if any exists at all
Sorry, I edited my response.
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by illicit(m): 6:31pm On Aug 31, 2024
Rossikk:
Sorry, I edited my response.
Charles will mean the same thing in Venezuela and England

But Jang Hong will mean different things in Plateau and China...
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Tjra: 6:36pm On Aug 31, 2024
illicit:
Charles will mean the same thing in Venezuela and England

But Jang Hong will mean different things in Plateau and China...
True
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by illicit(m): 6:38pm On Aug 31, 2024
Rossikk:
How do you know that?

Have you ever done a language comparison between Chinese and our Middle Belt languages like Mwaghavul or Berom?

This video on YouTube went viral, and showed many words used by them with the same meaning:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIYqtI3Ik30?si=opuG24hIwmVTl-yt
I am a Linguist
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Kemetian: 6:40pm On Aug 31, 2024
illicit:
I am a Linguist
What you claim to be doesn’t matter.

Watch the video and explain the connections.
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by illicit(m): 6:42pm On Aug 31, 2024
Kemetian:
What you claim to be doesn’t matter.

Watch the video and explain the connections.
Doesn't matter....
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Kemetian: 6:44pm On Aug 31, 2024
illicit:
Charles will mean the same thing in Venezuela and England

But Jang Hong will mean different things in Plateau and China...
You cannot state that categorically without doing a language comparison.

What studies have you done?
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by illicit(m): 6:46pm On Aug 31, 2024
Kemetian:
You cannot state that categorically without doing a language comparison.

What studies have you done?
A lot

I did history of Languages

What u call 'jang' may not even be pronounced 'jang' in China
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Kemetian: 7:13pm On Aug 31, 2024
illicit:
A lot

I did history of Languages

What u call 'jang' may not even be pronounced 'jang' in China
Have you WATCHED the video?

They compared language PLUS pronunciation, and found very strong matches.
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by illicit(m): 7:19pm On Aug 31, 2024
Kemetian:
Have you WATCHED the video?

They compared language PLUS pronunciation, and found very strong matches.
Like I said

Mere coincidences

No relations
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Kemetian: 7:24pm On Aug 31, 2024
illicit:
Like I said

Mere coincidences

No relations
That’s utter NONSENSE.

And you are NO linguist.

No linguist dismisses linguistic connections without investigation.

You have STILL not watched the video.

Aren’t you interested in learning anything new?

Mr ‘Linguist’.
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by ShoeGetSize: 7:30pm On Aug 31, 2024
A simple answer is NO, but I don't expect anyone of your limited mental abilities to understand this.

Rossikk:
In the middle belt to north west we have ethnic groups whose people bear names like Nandong, Nanjing, Nantang, Nanfwang, Fogyang, Fungo, Tarweng, etc.

Their languages also sound AMAZINGLY Chinese/Japanese etc.

I also noticed that people from there tend to have those slanty thin Chinese - type eyes.

Are NIGERIANS the remote ancestors of the Chinese?
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by lionshare: 7:40pm On Aug 31, 2024
I have always been curious about how these similarities arose. Perhaps their ancestors migrated from China, with some settling in Nigeria. Are there other languages in Africa that share similar characteristics?
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by illicit(m): 7:47pm On Aug 31, 2024
Kemetian:
That’s utter NONSENSE.

And you are NO linguist.

No linguist dismisses linguistic connections without investigation.

You have STILL not watched the video.

Aren’t you interested in learning anything new?

Mr ‘Linguist’.
Any Linguist knows what is called language distribution

What you are proposing is geographically impossible

How and when did the two cultures contacted or interacted
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by alanto: 7:55pm On Aug 31, 2024
illicit:
A lot

I did history of Languages

What u call 'jang' may not even be pronounced 'jang' in China
I totally agree
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Kemetian: 10:29pm On Aug 31, 2024
illicit:
Any Linguist knows what is called language distribution

What you are proposing is geographically impossible

How and when did the two cultures contacted or interacted
So you have ZERO IDEA about the history of ancient African presence in China, which the video discusses with abundant evidence, yet you are DISMISSING the linguistic connections?

Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance - Albert Einstein

You are no linguist.

What sort of linguist refuses to, or can't afford data to watch a 20 minute video to learn new information about possible linguistic connections between his own country and China?

You're the most unlinguistic linguist in history.
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Kemetian: 10:36pm On Aug 31, 2024
lionshare:
I have always been curious about how these similarities arose. Perhaps their ancestors migrated from China, with some settling in Nigeria. Are there other languages in Africa that share similar characteristics?
ANCIENT NIGERIANS AND OTHER BLACK AFRICANS were the world's FIRST explorers.

They traversed the seas in ships, and sailed to the Americas, to Australia, to Asia. To Europe.

The first empires of China, India and Japan were BLACK AFRICAN empires.

This is all very well documented.


Mogao Caves, China
https://i0.wp.com/live2makan.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/L2M-CN-2201-SHENZHENMUSEUM-DUNHUANG-21.jpg
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Kemetian: 10:44pm On Aug 31, 2024
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by MadPolitician: 10:48pm On Aug 31, 2024
Rossikk:
In the middle belt to north west we have ethnic groups whose people bear names like Nandong, Nanjing, Nantang, Nanfwang, Fogyang, Fungo, Tarweng, etc.

Their languages also sound AMAZINGLY Chinese/Japanese etc.

I also noticed that people from there tend to have those slanty thin Chinese - type eyes.

Are NIGERIANS the remote ancestors of the Chinese?
The Chinese culture shares a lot of similarities with typical African culture. Many times i have wondered whether the Chinese and the African share the same origins. What with the love for family, even extended family, the marriage rituals, the respect for elders, etc. I was even astonished to see some Chinese elders observing some traditional dances while celebrating a family members new house in tneir village, just the same way we throw owanbe when someone wants to open a new house over here.
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Sirianese: 10:52pm On Aug 31, 2024
Rossikk:
In the middle belt to north west we have ethnic groups whose people bear names like Nandong, Nanjing, Nantang, Nanfwang, Fogyang, Fungo, Tarweng, etc.

Their languages also sound AMAZINGLY Chinese/Japanese etc.

I also noticed that people from there tend to have those slanty thin Chinese - type eyes.

Are NIGERIANS the remote ancestors of the Chinese?
The more likely thing is that the same off-world donors contributed to the genetic stock of both tribes
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by MossadAgent: 11:18pm On Aug 31, 2024
Ibos are not Jews tho.
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Kemetian:
MadPolitician:
The Chinese culture shares a lot of similarities with typical African culture. Many times i have wondered whether the Chinese and the African share the same origins. What with the love for family, even extended family, the marriage rituals, the respect for elders, etc. I was even astonished to see some Chinese elders observing some traditional dances while celebrating a family members new house in tneir village, just the same way we throw owanbe when someone wants to open a new house over here.
Names of the Mwahgavul people of Plateau state:

Nantong, Nanking, Nanching, Nanfwang, Nanchang, Nankin, Ching, Nankeen, Nanji, Yen, Talang, Tarjeng, Tarweng, Nabam, Katbam, Naijen, Nandom etc etc.

Every one of those names is also a Chinese name.

Our ancestors were great travellers.

That language they call Mandarin in China is an ancient Nigerian language mixed with some other stuff.

Mwaghavul & Berom ladies. Note their facial features....

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/1a/9e/1b1a9e6f48dce528074f562f501e5451.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fsqua2AXwAEzjX0.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJdQyb_WIAA74kz.jpg
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Kemetian: 11:33pm On Aug 31, 2024
Sirianese:
The more likely thing is that the same off-world donors contributed to the genetic stock of both tribes
This has nothing to do with extraterrestrials.

This is not a UFO thread.
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by illicit(m): 12:11am On Sep 01, 2024
Kemetian:
ANCIENT NIGERIANS AND OTHER BLACK AFRICANS were the world's FIRST explorers.

They traversed the seas in ships, and sailed to the Americas, to Australia, to Asia. To Europe.

The first empires of China, India and Japan were BLACK AFRICAN empires.

This is all very well documented.


Mogao Caves, China
https://i0.wp.com/live2makan.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/L2M-CN-2201-SHENZHENMUSEUM-DUNHUANG-21.jpg
If we were such great explorers

What did we bring back from the voyages?

How many Chinese did we bring back home?
Where were the ships built, with what tool, which technology, go to do what in China or Japan, if there was a trade route, what now happened, how did we forget about it?

Any historical record to this?

Our languages don't even belong to the same family

They have different alphabets, different orthography, have u seen how Chinese writes?
Do you know long Chinese have been writing?

Interior Africans don't even write, we may carve or design but that's not writing

What we call nsibidi is an esoteric language understood by initiates not for everyone
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Kemetian: 12:25am On Sep 01, 2024
illicit:
If we wee such great explorers

What did we bring back from the voyages?

How many Chinese did we bring back home?

Our languages don't even belong to the sand family

They have different alphabets, different orthography, have u seen how Chinese writes?
Do you know long Chinese have been writing?

Interior Africans don't even write, we may carve or design but that's not writing

What we call nsibidi is an esoteric language understood by initiates not for everyone
Black Africans INVENTED writing.

The oldest scripts are the NUBIAN (OR MEROITIC) AND KEMETIC HIEROGLYPHS dating over 10,000 YEARS OLD.

What are you talking about?

Black Africans are the world's FIRST AND ORIGINAL PEOPLE.

That is the first thing you need to get into your head.

THIS IS SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS.

The Out Of Africa thesis.

EVERYTHING STARTED WITH BLACK AFRICANS: Writing, Mathematics, Chemistry, Astronomy, the Calendar, Marriage, Religion, Speech, Iron Smelting, Mining of Minerals, International trade and shipping. Architecture, Cities, Medicine, Philosophy, Law, Religion, Administration.

They recently found a PAINT FACTORY in South Africa, complete with evidence of chemical admixture and deep knowledge of chemistry, and the site was carbon-dated to OVER 100,000 YEARS OLD!!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15257259

Do you know that humanity's oldest known written records only go back 6,000 years at the most?

The white race emerged only around 6 or 7,000 years ago.

They are NEWCOMERS to civilisation.

This video shows how Black Africans dominated the oceans for thousands of years in their ships.

Do you know the Atlantic ocean was known as the Ethiopian Ocean until a few centuries ago?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d8/70/d4/d870d4360a5d9b97939fd6e91b0594f0.png


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORB3y4T5pSI&t=389s
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by illicit(m): 12:28am On Sep 01, 2024
Kemetian:
Black Africans INVENTED writing.

The oldest scripts are the NUBIAN (OR MEROITIC) AND KEMETIC HIEROGLYPHS dating over 10,000 YEARS OLD.

What are you talking about?

Black Africans are the world's FIRST AND ORIGINAL PEOPLE.

That is the first thing you need to get into your head.

THIS IS SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS.

The Out Of Africa thesis.

EVERYTHING STARTED WITH BLACK AFRICANS: Writing, Mathematics, Chemistry, Astronomy, the Calendar, Marriage, Religion, Speech, Iron Smelting, Mining of Minerals, International trade and shipping. Architecture, Cities, Medicine, Philosophy, Law, Religion, Administration.

They recently found a PAINT FACTORY in South Africa, complete with evidence of chemical admixture and deep knowledge of chemistry, and the site was carbon-dated to OVER 100,000 YEARS OLD!!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15257259

Do you know that humanity's oldest known written records only go back 6,000 years at the most?

The white race emerged only around 6 or 7,000 years ago.

They are NEWCOMERS to civilisation.
My great grandfather never wrote shit...

I don't know about yours

How many old mathematicians do you know from your village?

Do they write hieroglyphics in your village too?
Re: Are NIGERIANS Ancestors Of The Chinese? by Kemetian: 12:41am On Sep 01, 2024
illicit:
My great grandfather never wrote shit...

I don't know about yours

How many old mathematicians do you know from your village?
African history is about far more than your village.

In the days of Greece and Rome, the average European was a stark village illiterate. Doesn't mean Greece and Rome didn't exist.

In the olden days, education and writing were the preserve of the elite, initiates etc.

Mathematics was advanced in many parts of ancient Africa.

The Mali Empire, the Ghana Empire, the Benin Kingdom, The Yoruba kingdoms. Great Zimbabwe, Ancient Egypt (which was black African in antiquity), and Nubia.

Yoruba mathematics is very advanced. Check out this publication for details.

https://www.obafemio.com/uploads/5/1/4/2/5142021/math_in_yoruba.pdf
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