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Yes. If you don't pay tithe you will go to hell fire....

Michael547:
Prove it that he was talking to Christians in Exodus.

As at the time what happened in exodus happened, there were no Christians.

Even jesus is not a Christian cos Christianity started after jesus left the earth for heaven.

God doesn't want your gift if u are not given cheerfully.... Give what u can... God see's your heart.... We are not under the law anymore

No. The devoured wont be rebuked and that may dampen the chances of heaven. Also that reduces the volume of faith based works on earth, a vital part of Christian's life and life itself.

StillDtruth:
See how you prove you are completely mad and stupid. The topic is about tithe.

You are the mad one here.

You are just saying nonsense laced with insults...

TimiRume:
There is nothing like giving God a tithe in the new covenant. The new covenant demands 100% of us and our all. Everything we have now is God's. No such thing as 10% in this church age.

Very correct!

People don't understand that the abrogation of the old testament is a call to greater things, not lesser.

If in the old covenant we were asked to give a tenth, in the new, we should give even more.

Luke 6:38, in the words of Jesus Himself:

"Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again".

It has changed from "give 10% and some offerings" to "as you give, you will receive".

We have not been "set free" to go and "enjoy" our money as we like, but we have been invited to be good to others by giving, both to help the work. In the Church and to other people in need.

To this end, I submit, we are expected to give even more now than before.

The only difference is, the giving is not under the control of any man, pastor or otherwise.

No pastor may declare punishment on anyone because he or she did not give money to him or his "ministry". If indeed a person gives to God, He knows, and he will reward accordingly.

StillDtruth:
People are already gping to hell because of their disobediences.

So, Non tithers are just part of the population who already do not obey God. So tithe or no tithe, people are already heading to hell.

Does that mean Jesus will go to hell? U know He didn’t pay tithe ??

danijesus:
oga you just they spit rubbish here,go warm eba chop.

Lol...point out the rubbish na

No sir/ma

StillDtruth:
See madman. I say hell fire, madman is saying hell.

If you were not too stupid to read you would have seen that hell is cast into hell fire aka lake of fire. But you are too stupid to read so you open your mouth to speak foolishly.

Is hell no longer the same as hell fire according to you? Did Jonah go to hell, yes or no?

Michael547:
So how many laws given to the isrealites are you keeping? Why are you singling out only tithe? What about the rest laws where tithe appears in the old testament?

Thanks for this point.
Let me also add...Christians should also practice An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth which the new covenant negates.
It saddens my heart when Law of Tithe is singled out as a tool for manipulation by some of our pastors.

Jeezuzpick:
Very correct!

People don't understand that the abrogation of the old testament is a call to greater things, not lesser.

If in the old covenant we were asked to give a tenth, in the new, we should give even more.

Luke 6:38, in the words of Jesus Himself:

"Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again".

It has changed from "give 10% and some offerings" to "as you give, you will receive".

We have not been "set free" to go and "enjoy" our money as we like, but we have been invited to be good to others by giving, both to help the work. In the Church and to other people in need.

To this end, I submit, we are expected to give even more now than before.

The only difference is, the giving is not under the control of any man, pastor or otherwise.

No pastor may declare punishment on anyone because he or she did not give money to him or his "ministry". If indeed a person gives to God, He knows, and he will reward accordingly.

Amen brother. May God bring us back to this truth were we truly demomstrate the pure love of Christ, not by compulsion, but as we are led by his spirit.

What I believe this means is that the church is in dire need of spiritual help as these lies that have creeped in are sponsored by the enemy. May God grant us the grace and boldness to speak the truth always while we pray without ceasing for the church, that God may by our prayers open doors of freedom for the church which is his body.

Michael547:
why did good people and King David go to hell as recorded in Psalms 16:10, Psalms 116:3, Jonah 2:2, Psalms 86:13 if hell was a place where only bad people go and get tormented?

The hell here is referring to near death experience, I believe the translators used hell to express absolute desolate and fear

Those pastors who said such lies are the ones who are going to hell.The hottest part of hell is reserved for those who utter such falsehood.l watched a video recently on Johnson Suleiman, where he said it's better for 1000 non tithers to die than for one person that sow seeds in his ministry to die.

StillDtruth:
Of course, Exodus 22:29 and co will not be in your bible.

old testament
law of moses

Jesus Christ came to make all things new
he never encouraged tithes or first fruit
his disciples never took tithes
paul didn't take tithes

any pastor that talks tithing is a fraud

Wat a useless caption

If tithe is old testament law and stop paying, how do you expect the church to finance all needs, the electricity bills,fuel, maintenance of the church, payments of pastor and purchase of musical instruments that you dance upadan, are you expecting the pastor to do so, you better start paying for the continuity of the gospel.

Sebi it's when you have Money to pay tithe and things are going well for you to some extent you will consider paying tithe
Person wey never see food chop since yesterday you go reason am tithe
Shey e no go swear for you😂

gasparpisciotta:
The hell here is referring to near death experience, I believe the translators used hell to express absolute desolate and fear

Are the hell in other verses of the Bible also near death experiences? How do you differentiate?

Earthscience:
Thanks for this point.
Let me also add...Christians should also practice An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth which the new covenant negates.
It saddens my heart when Law of Tithe is singled out as a tool for manipulation by some of our pastors.

Don't mind them....how can they just single out tithe and leave the rest.

nikky5:
Recently, I have heard a few of our fathers of faith in Nigeria preach that tithe defaulters will not make it to heaven when they die.

I will need further clarification on this because I have stopped paying my tithes for about three years now. I also believe in tithing as an old testament law. Well, I may be wrong in some ways. Can anyone throw more light on this please. I am a born again Christian.

Thanks.

Battle between facing reality and chasing shadows

What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

The need to stop chasing shadows

nikky5:
Recently, I have heard a few of our fathers of faith in Nigeria preach that tithe defaulters will not make it to heaven when they die.

I will need further clarification on this because I have stopped paying my tithes for about three years now. I also believe in tithing as an old testament law. Well, I may be wrong in some ways. Can anyone throw more light on this please. I am a born again Christian.

Thanks.

Put your money into whatever benefits you.
There's no such thing as going to heaven or hell. Those people who conjured the heaven and hell bullshit are busy developing their countries and taking over the world. You are busy preparing to go to heaven.
They tell you not to store up treasure in the world because moths will eat them up. But they collect your money and build properties in the world - schools, banks, hospitals. Are moths blind to the properties of your so-called men of god?
Religion, especially Christianity, is a just a tactic to slavery. If not for education, the original inventors of religion did not want you to even live in a house. You are supposed to surrender everything and live like a pauper so that you can inherit a mansion in heaven.
And somehow they are still achieving that.
How else do you explain a situation where people who contribute money to build a school can not afford to send their children to that same school?

Michael547:
Is that verse referring to Christians or to the isrealites?

If you believe and accept the 10 commandments,then every commandments in the old testament is not only for Israelites but for christians too.

Flakky26:
If you believe and accept the 10 commandments,then every commandments in the old testament is not only for Israelites but for christians too.

Oga is tithe recorded among the 10 commandments?
Bring out all the commandments where tithe was mentioned in the bible let's see how many you are following today.

StillDtruth:
Christ clearly.Said "if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."

Do you keep all the commandments in Old testaments, Exodus and Deuteronomy especially??

If you really love God, do you need anyone to coerce you to pay tithe ? Just 10%
what do you have that you did not receive ?

Below is what Jesus said about tithing
The key point here is

THESE YOU OUGHT TO HAVE DONE and NOT TO LEAVE THE OTHER UNDONE

Tithing is the first step of your consecration and the war against tithing is because of how satan has raised his own pupit and set his children on it.

Please I'm talking to born again Christians not the crowd who think they are Christian properly because they've going to church all their lifes. My prayer is that God reveals His son to you as salvation

The law that command christian's to pay tithe but forbid pastors who enjoy luxuries to help members in crisis. When pastors need money they rush to make alter calls in several millions, but when you have financial problem, the best they offer is 3 minutes prayers for a benefactor to come. Leaving you in turbulence. Anyone who speak in favor of tithe, and arrays of alter calls in churches, check him out, he is a potential pastor, pastor already, pastor wife, son or daughter or direct beneficiary from the largesse . No one will go to hell because of tithe. The two most important commandment are 1. Not to worship any other god apart from God almighty which we are doing as Christians through Christ Jesus and 2. Love your neighbor as yourself. Help people you see are truly distressed. Not pastors who will oppress you with the money they siphon from you.

gallantfx:
If you really love God, do you need anyone to coerce you to pay tithe ? Just 10%
what do you have that you did not receive ?

Below is what Jesus said about tithing
The key point here is

THESE YOU OUGHT TO HAVE DONE and NOT TO LEAVE THE OTHER UNDONE

Tithing is the first step of your consecration and the war against tithing is because of how satan has raised his own pupit and set his children on it.

Please I'm talking to born again Christians not the crowd who think they are Christian properly because they've going to church all their lifes. My prayer is that God reveals His son to you as salvation

were the Pharisees under the law of christ when Jesus made that statement or they were under the mosaic law?

Jcash90:
If tithe is old testament law and stop paying, how do you expect the church to finance all needs, the electricity bills,fuel, maintenance of the church, payments of pastor and purchase of musical instruments that you dance upadan, are you expecting the pastor to do so, you better start paying for the continuity of the gospel.

List incomplete, school for mummy G.O, G.O children in UK and US, landed property in choice area, coupe cars and heavy jeeps worth several million, while the contributors stay in a room and parlor with three kids. Yet , with the wealth the pastor never see reasons to empower the poor.

Tithes to Nigerian pastors? Who use it for luxury lifestyle?

Which heaven? The clouds or the sun? What are you going to do in heaven?


So far en concern money wey go reach pastor's hand, they must defend it. The black man is shadier than the fox.


Brainwashing at its apogee!