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MaxInDHouse:
"Young children, it is the last hour, and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared, from which fact we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort" 1John 2:18-19

In the first century their kind left the group but got lost and never had any record in the Bible so their modern day counterpart have learned from the past mistakes of their first century counterpart instead of leaving the congregation they are now claiming:

PHYSICALLY IN MENTALLY OUT!

tctrills:
Is fear

achorladey:
You don't understand what PIMO means

Sand2022 is PHYSICALLY IN MENTALLY OUT(does no longer holds the Jehovah’s Witnesses view of trinity)

To leave that religious organization, there are process and procedures they follow. Considering he has risen to the position of an elder. He must do his calculations well before dropping the bomb of disassociation.

Kingsempires:
ok ooo

MaxInDHouse:
He doesn't know what to say but the dribbler and manipulator has come to his rescue, telling you that it's wise to hide within a group as a prominent member yet speaking against the same group.

Can you remember Jesus' word at Revelations 3:16

Real Witnesses of Jehovah will always stand for what is right not hiding among people you know are practicing falsehood claiming you're PHYSICALLY IN MENTALLY OUT!

Emusan:
This is to show you that, your lies of ONE LINE OF THOUGHT was never there in the first place.

Since there are PIMO among you and you can't even know them shows the gods in Warwick can also be PIMO

MaxInDHouse:
He doesn't know what to say but the dribbler and manipulator has come to his rescue, telling you that it's wise to hide within a group as a prominent member yet speaking against the same group.

Can you remember Jesus' word at Revelations 3:16

Real Witnesses of Jehovah will always stand for what is right not hiding among people you know are practicing falsehood claiming you're PHYSICALLY IN MENTALLY OUT!

He doesn't know what to say but the dribbler and manipulator has come to his rescue, telling you that it's wise to hide within a group as a prominent member yet speaking against the same group.

Can you remember Jesus' word at Revelations 3:16

So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth

Real Witnesses of Jehovah will always stand for what is right not hiding among people you know are practicing falsehood claiming you're PHYSICALLY IN MENTALLY OUT!

Emusan:
There's nothing Jesus did not know.
Holy spirit knows EVERYTHING.
I so much like the scripture you quoted.
Firstly, but today you claimed you know Jesus that He is even Angel Michael which means you've become The Father then
Secondly, the point Jesus was making is at the @underlined part.

The rest of your post:

Holy spirit knows the VERY MIND OF GOD.

Whenever you see them with @underlined, just know their manipulation had started.

If it's not PERSONIFICATION then you know your entire argument fell flat and your lying mouth exposed that is why you want it to be PERSONIFICATION.

Just remove that PERSONIFICATION NONSENSE FROM YOUR HEAD AND SEE THE TRUTH.

Barristter07:

Matt 24:36
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. "

Jesus said he doesn't know , but only the Father.

- The Son doesn't know, therefore the son cannot reveal to anyone the day and hour. This automatically rules out the holy spirit knowing the day and hour.

In that case, I repeat . Holy spirit doesn't know the day and hour, which means it's not God nor a person.


To claim otherwise, is to commit the heresy that holy spirit is a person that knows the Father's Mind much more than Jesus. ,hence greater than Christ. ❌ Unscriptural

Kingsempires:
so who is Jesus

MaxInDHouse:
Matthew 16:16

Barristter07:

Matt 24:36
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. "

Jesus said he doesn't know , but only the Father.

- The Son doesn't know, therefore the son cannot reveal to anyone the day and hour. This automatically rules out the holy spirit knowing the day and hour.

In that case, I repeat . Holy spirit doesn't know the day and hour, which means it's not God nor a person.


To claim otherwise, is to commit the heresy that holy spirit is a person that knows the Father's Mind much more than Jesus. ,hence greater than Christ. ❌ Unscriptural

Barristter07:

Matt 24:36
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. "

Jesus said he doesn't know , but only the Father.

- The Son doesn't know, therefore the son cannot reveal to anyone the day and hour. This automatically rules out the holy spirit knowing the day and hour.

In that case, I repeat . Holy spirit doesn't know the day and hour, which means it's not God nor a person.


To claim otherwise, is to commit the heresy that holy spirit is a person that knows the Father's Mind much more than Jesus. ,hence greater than Christ. ❌ Unscriptural

MightySparrow:
Do you affirm that the Holy Ghost doesn't know the mind of the Father?

MightySparrow:
Explain nah!
If someone gives an answer like this you will demand an answer in line of thought.

MaxInDHouse:
Let the one asking demand for that!

MightySparrow:
I have joined him to ask

MaxInDHouse:
Matthew 16:16

MaxInDHouse:
I have no business with you, go and ask your Papa whatever he tells you is your part.

Kingsempires:
explain

MightySparrow:
You don't know Jesus you argue about?

MaxInDHouse:
You've always say it's delusion so why bother yourself again?

MaxInDHouse:
When Jesus walked the earth there were lots of speculations regarding his identity due to his unequal supernatural gifts that no prophet has ever had.
So many begin to wonder who is this young Jewish carpenter claiming to be with all these wonderful works.
That's why he asked his disciples to tell him what the Jewish people who have seen him and his miraculous gifts thought:

When he had come into the region of Caes·a·reʹa Phi·lipʹpi, Jesus asked his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” Matthew 16:13

His disciples responded:

“Some say John the Baptist, others E·liʹjah, and still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” Matthew 16:14

After hearing other people's opinion he turned to his own disciples:

“You, though, who do you say I am?” Matthew 16:15

Then Simon Peter in behalf of his other friends of Jesus responded:

“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Matthew 16:16

Jesus commended Peter and said God revealed it to Peter ! Matthew 16:17


So today if you're thinking of same question is it not best i refer you to what happened when Jesus himself was here?

Thanks for your time!

Ybigp5:
So your God died and came back to life on its own?

Kingsempires:
so the scenario is that Jesus is[b][/b]"the son of God".
Is if Jesus is the "son of God".
Then is it evil to worship the son of God?

MaxInDHouse:
After the event where Jesus commended Peter for making that comment in the following chapter God said about Jesus:

“This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. Listen to him.” Matthew 17:5

You will notice that God only confirmed what Peter said and commended by Jesus and added one more thing: "listen to him"

According to Jesus all true worshipers of God are his brothers because we are wordhipers of one God {Mark 12:29 compare to Deuteronomy 6:4} who is the father and God of all:

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

The Greek word translated WORSHIP could be rendered in two ways:
WORSHIP or OBEISANCE

Where it applies to God the Almighty it should be rendered WORSHIP but where it's used for others then it should be rendered OBEISANCE.

Some translators misconstrued that Greek word where God told everyone to OBEY Jesus and rendered it WORSHIP but from what Jesus himself said worship should go to only one person and that is his father who is our father and his God who is our God! John 20:17

We don't tell others what to do or not to do we only present what we know from God's word i believe you can make your own decision from here.

Please i'm unfollowing this thread afterwards so if you have further questions ask me on my own threads.

Good morning!

Kingsempires:
But sand2022 my question for you is ;

Is it true you are still attending jw ?

If you are still attending jw and you are a trinitarian my brother sorry to say this but that is hypocrite. If you agree with the trinity why are you still attending Jw

Sand2022:
If I had not done my own research from the scriptures and if what I believe is what I have been taught by the Watchtower, I would agree that it is hypocritical.

However, attending meetings in a church that you do not agree with their theology is not approving their theology nor against the scriptures. More especially if there is another concern you have.

Jesus Christ is our exemplar. Although he didn't accept the theology of his time, he was always in the temple and synagogue. He obviously participated in all that was done there. That wasn't hypocritical.

After his death, we see Peter, John and even Paul attend meetings of the Jews conducted in the temple and the synagogue. That wasn't hypocritical. The worship of God is no longer attendance in a physical location. It is Spirit and truth. What will be hypocritical and what we can learn from Jesus is, while you attend, if at all needed, you still let them know that you do not agree with them on so and so. That is what Jesus did. They know his position of things, but his attendance doesn't affect his loyalty.

I have told them and officially resigned as an elder and a Regular Pioneer because I cannot in a clean conscience teach their doctrine either from the platform or door to door. So the elders know officially that I object to some teachings of JWs. I wanted to disassociate, but my wife almost died of grief. I pulled back, not for the religion, but for her health. So I saw from Jesus example that mere attendance is not the sin.

My bible studies does not support the idea that your church marks your salvation. It is your conduct and your heart towards your creator that matters. Most especially your love for God and your love for those around you counts the most and faith in Christ. God is not going to judge church, but individuals. So if you love God stand for the truth even if your religion is against it. That is what God will judge.

It doesn't matter if Jonathan was in Saul's house nor join him for war, what matters is that when he makes the wrong decision, Jonathan wont support that.

When the time is right for her, I will leave, but don't think that my leaving means that I will not ever attend a JW meeting as if when they pray to God, they pray to idols as JWs view other churches, I won't join them in such a obvious misunderstanding of God's word. I can attend the meeting when I want to but if I leave, I will concentrate more on churches than there. But I don't judge them as if no one there will ever be saved. No, most people there sincerely do not know that there view is wrong. They think is that truth. And don't think that God will be too cold to destroy them if, other things being equal, they miss getting some things right. Of course I am not God anyway, but I won't think so, for a scriptural reason. Eg Job.

I still know that JWs don't see other churches that way. Again, I don't follow wrong theology.

I advise people stop this church madness. Put your eyes on Christ, not church. Even if God has appointed a pastor, he is not master over your faith. He is God's tool to assist you. That church name.is not faith in Christ.

Kingsempires:
now that you are a trinitarian attending Jw can change your believe anytime

Kingsempires:
why are you leaving

Sand2022:
If I had not done my own research from the scriptures and if what I believe is what I have been taught by the Watchtower, I would agree that it is hypocritical.

However, attending meetings in a church that you do not agree with their theology is not approving their theology nor against the scriptures. More especially if there is another concern you have.

Jesus Christ is our exemplar. Although he didn't accept the theology of his time, he was always in the temple and synagogue. He obviously participated in all that was done there. That wasn't hypocritical.

After his death, we see Peter, John and even Paul attend meetings of the Jews conducted in the temple and the synagogue. That wasn't hypocritical. The worship of God is no longer attendance in a physical location. It is Spirit and truth. What will be hypocritical and what we can learn from Jesus is, while you attend, if at all needed, you still let them know that you do not agree with them on so and so. That is what Jesus did. They know his position of things, but his attendance doesn't affect his loyalty.

I have told them and officially resigned as an elder and a Regular Pioneer because I cannot in a clean conscience teach their doctrine either from the platform or door to door. So the elders know officially that I object to some teachings of JWs. I wanted to disassociate, but my wife almost died of grief. I pulled back, not for the religion, but for her health. So I saw from Jesus example that mere attendance is not the sin.

My bible studies does not support the idea that your church marks your salvation. It is your conduct and your heart towards your creator that matters. Most especially your love for God and your love for those around you counts the most and faith in Christ. God is not going to judge church, but individuals. So if you love God stand for the truth even if your religion is against it. That is what God will judge.

It doesn't matter if Jonathan was in Saul's house nor join him for war, what matters is that when he makes the wrong decision, Jonathan wont support that.

When the time is right for her, I will leave, but don't think that my leaving means that I will not ever attend a JW meeting as if when they pray to God, they pray to idols as JWs view other churches, I won't join them in such a obvious misunderstanding of God's word. I can attend the meeting when I want to but if I leave, I will concentrate more on churches than there. But I don't judge them as if no one there will ever be saved. No, most people there sincerely do not know that there view is wrong. They think is that truth. And don't think that God will be too cold to destroy them if, other things being equal, they miss getting some things right. Of course I am not God anyway, but I won't think so, for a scriptural reason. Eg Job.

I still know that JWs don't see other churches that way. Again, I don't follow wrong theology.

I advise people stop this church madness. Put your eyes on Christ, not church. Even if God has appointed a pastor, he is not master over your faith. He is God's tool to assist you. That church name.is not faith in Christ.

Kingsempires:
now that you are a trinitarian attending Jw can change your believe anytime

I advise people stop this church madness. Put your eyes on Christ, not church. Even if God has appointed a pastor, he is not master over your faith. He is God's tool to assist you. That church name.is not faith in Christ.