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HurricaneLanter:
So when did Belarus become a NATO member? You love to shift the goalpost. We're talking NATO member states shooting down Russian UAV. Please stick to the topic

I'm curious about what your point is though, are you saying that if Russian UAV is shot down Russia would retaliate for that? Or are you saying they aren't capable of shooting it down? Or are you saying their "inability" to shoot those down is connected to them not being able to arrest Putin?

liveLongNprospa:
Life comes at you fast

This is what I was saying about that Osimhen matter . Nigerians are mostly hypocrites , but will support bad behaviors and even defend the indefensible when they are not the ones directly affected .

The moment they are affected , they will suddenly discover their voice and start speaking against what they supported in the past.

I remember months back when we had discussions centered around all these demolition going on in Lagos. A lot of people believe people whose buildings are being demolished are automatically guilty and that the government is blameless . Some people felt the owners of the buildings didn’t do enough due diligence , blah blah blah…..

I’m sure if you tell this man that he didn’t do due diligence before he started his poultry in Abuja he will never agree with u and will cuss you out. The fact that the government didn’t even give him notice to allow him evacuate his birds makes his case pathetic .

This is just a lesson for all of us that we should be more kinda with our words and put ourselves in people’s shoes When discussing their misfortune in the hands of government and its officials

Amigoss:
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He doesn't need to be quick,he should take his time,SURU LERE.....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01zvnAivCbU&pp=ygUQc3VydWxlcmUgbGFnYmFqYQ%3D%3D

To destroy very easily but to build nko o ah wahala ni o... Ki lawa se? Sejo lawa f’aye gbo? Ki lawa se? Se b’aye lawa je n’ibi. Eje a f’iyen le, K’e je a jaye ori n’ibi, T’oba d’ola, k’a mi aran wahala wa lo

These are the issues .

Fashola claimed they gave Dangote the land he built his refinery on for free and he didn’t pay anything .

Nine years later Dangote claimed he paid $100m for the same land and that he never received anything for free .

Now the indigenes have sued Lagos state government to come out and explain if indeed $100m was collected by LASG for their ancestral land and what was done with the money.

I won’t be surprised if the court throw the case out based on technicality

BlueRayDick:
This is what I was saying about that Osimhen matter . Nigerians are mostly hypocrites , but will support bad behaviors and even defend the indefensible when they are not the ones directly affected .

The moment they are affected , they will suddenly discover their voice and start speaking against what they supported in the past.

I remember months back when we had discussions centered around all these demolition going on in Lagos. A lot of people believe people whose buildings are being demolished are automatically guilty and that the government is blameless . Some people felt the owners of the buildings didn’t do enough due diligence , blah blah blah…..

I’m sure if you tell this man that he didn’t do due diligence before he started his poultry in Abuja he will never agree with u and will cuss you out. The fact that the government didn’t even give him notice to allow him evacuate his birds makes his case pathetic .

This is just a lesson for all of us that we should be more kinda with our words and put ourselves in people’s shoes When discussing their misfortune in the hands of government and its officials

Lagos state will never demolish a structure without prior notice. I have experienced this multiple times on multiple projects.


I have also had bosses who tried to play smart and got burned. Build on setback, ignore the 3 metre clearance between fence and building. We know the guy, build we will sort approval later.

One time we were going to extend beyond our boundary and it was the taxi drivers who told us, stop this before we report you. It was very funny seeing unkempt taxi drivers telling well dressed corporate people what the law was on site boundary

There was a site in Anthony we were going to renovate without approval. Lasbca came and dropped paper. Management said the owner of the site was an apc chairman and nothing would happen. The chairman called saying sort out all your papers, fashola does not fk around on approvals. We had to shut it down.


However corrupt lasbca is, there is always a paper trail showing when the first notice was issued. This is not a like for like case because most of the enforcement bodies in Abuja are run by barely literate thugs. Then add the fact that you have wike who has never followed process running things.


Abuja where task force was kidnapping women on grounds of indecent dressing? Abuja where task force started spraying parked cars without any provocation?

GloriousGbola:
Lagos state will never demolish a structure without prior notice. I have experienced this multiple times on multiple projects.

However corrupt lasbca is, there is always a paper trail showing when the first notice was issued. This is not a like for like case because most of the enforcement bodies in Abuja are run by barely literate thugs. Then add the fact that you have wike who has never followed process running things.

Well, if u say so sha. Your experience may not be someone else’s experience sha .

But government pulling down people’s buildings down at this period is as insensitive as insensitive can ever be .

hopefulLandlord:
I'm curious about what your point is though, are you saying that if Russian UAV is shot down Russia would retaliate for that? Or are you saying they aren't capable of shooting it down? Or are you saying their "inability" to shoot those down is connected to them not being able to arrest Putin?

Since the war started, Russian drones have been attacking NATO territory. All we hear is long grammar, complains and excuse upon excuses. Even if these NATO countries can't respond/retaliate until permission is granted from Washington, they should be able to intercept Russian military drones violating her airspace.

They lack the courage, they're afraid. Simple.

GloriousGbola:
Lagos state will never demolish a structure without prior notice. I have experienced this multiple times on multiple projects.


I have also had bosses who tried to play smart and got burned. Build on setback, ignore the 3 metre clearance between fence and building. We know the guy, build we will sort approval later.

One time we were going to extend beyond our boundary and it was the taxi drivers who told us, stop this before we report you. It was very funny seeing unkempt taxi drivers telling well dressed corporate people what the law was on site boundary

There was a site in Anthony we were going to renovate without approval. Lasbca came and dropped paper. Management said the owner of the site was an apc chairman and nothing would happen. The chairman called saying sort out all your papers, fashola does not fk around on approvals. We had to shut it down.


However corrupt lasbca is, there is always a paper trail showing when the first notice was issued. This is not a like for like case because most of the enforcement bodies in Abuja are run by barely literate thugs. Then add the fact that you have wike who has never followed process running things.


Abuja where task force was kidnapping women on grounds of indecent dressing? Abuja where task force started spraying parked cars without any provocation?

[color=royalblue]Lagos won't demolish without notice, but you believe Abuja will demolish without notice?

You didn't even try to find out if he was contravening laws. You just slam Abuja with such an accusation

That one is pure bias.

And that's why Proper's comment really went well; Life really comes at us fast.

As a teenager, I know what it feels when my mother's shop was destroyed by Fashola.

Na so e dey be. May God comfort him, and bring him to his prosperity season.

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izzou:
[color=royalblue]Lagos won't demolish without notice, but you believe Abuja will demolish without notice?

You didn't even try to find out if he was contravening laws. You just slam Abuja with such an accusation

That one is pure bias.

And that's why Proper's comment really went well; Life really comes at us fast.

As a teenager, I know what it feels when my mother's shop was destroyed by Fashola.

.Na so e dey be. May God comfort him, and bring him to his prosperity season

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Prosperity don reach him domot

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Lagos won't demolish without notice, but you believe Abuja will demolish without notice?

You didn't even try to find out if he was contravening laws. You just slam Abuja with such an accusation

That one is pure bias.

And that's why Proper's comment really went well; Life really comes at us fast.

As a teenager, I know what it feels when my mother's shop was destroyed by Fashola.

Na so e dey be. May God comfort him, and bring him to his prosperity season.

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Baba, I've seen people go from 100 to 0 because of all these government demolitions. Nobody should be defending government for some of these demolitions because if you probe really deep, you will discover it's all about government land grabbing and nothing else.

As a little boy my old man told me about the history of Maroko and how the original occupants were evicted from where we now call Victoria Island; I learnt not to trust government and its officials from that maroko incident. Some of us are critical of government because of the history we know and those things happening all over again.

Anybody that wants to learn about Maroko incident can read the below business day link to the story.

https://businessday.ng/news/news-features/article/how-nigerian-elites-grabbed-maroko-land-25-years-ago-part-1/

BlueRayDick:
Baba, I've seen people go from 100 to 0 because of all these government demolitions. Nobody should be defending government for some of these demolitions because if you probe really deep, you will discover it's all about government land grabbing and nothing else.

As a little boy my old man told me about the history of Maroko and how the original occupants were evicted from where we now call Victoria Island; I learnt not to trust government and its officials from that maroko incident. Some of us are critical of government because of the history we know and those things happening all over again.

Anybody that wants to learn about Maroko incident can read the below business day link to the story.

https://businessday.ng/news/news-features/article/how-nigerian-elites-grabbed-maroko-land-25-years-ago-part-1/

[color=royalblue]I have watched my parents build twice in Lagos, and you cannot build without people in government getting involved.

Just last year, FHA demolished all the buildings along Festac Buffer Zone.

As at today, buildings are there. Even a Petrol station is there now. Ask GloriousGbola.

So who gave these ones approval? They just jumped into a land that structures were just demolished and started building?

10 years later, FHA will demolish it again, and sell to another person

E dey easy to dey clap for Twitter. At least, he is a living Testimony of how these things can be a racket[/color]

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Prosperity don reach him domot

[color=royalblue]I hope he recovers oh.

To start again no be beans[/color]

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Amigoss:
😭😭

This one off me 😂😂😂😂

Tinubu you do this one 🤦‍♂️

Amigoss:
😭😭

This yemi adenuga is playing
She no know the people she is dealing with
No be Irish again 😂😂

HurricaneLanter:
Since the war started, Russian drones have been attacking NATO territory. All we hear is long grammar, complains and excuse upon excuses. Even if these NATO countries can't respond/retaliate until permission is granted from Washington, they should be able to intercept Russian military drones violating her airspace.

They lack the courage, they're afraid. Simple.

They lack courage to intercept drones? Also how do you mean "attacking"? Are you saying Russia sends drones with the intention of detonating it in NATO territory?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I have watched my parents build twice in Lagos, and you cannot build without people in government getting involved.

Just last year, FHA demolished all the buildings along Festac Buffer Zone.

As at today, buildings are there. Even a Petrol station is there now. Ask GloriousGbola.

So who gave these ones approval? They just jumped into a land that structures were just demolished and started building?

10 years later, FHA will demolish it again, and sell to another person

E dey easy to dey clap for Twitter. At least, he is a living Testimony of how these things can be a racket[/color]

The truth be say, if e never happen to u na advise go full ur mouth.

BlueRayDick:
The truth be say, if e never happen to u na advise go full ur mouth.

it has happened to me repeatedly in my professional life.

lagos state has never demolished any of our structure without prior notice.

the process is always teh same - contravention notice, second notice , final warning, demolition notice.

today they take the picture and time stamp it so no one can claim it was not done.

we had a situation where we were told our facility would be demolished for road related works. they dropped the demolition notice, and then went to sleep for six months. we actually were thinking maybe we should not have exited as quickly as we did. then one morning, out of the blue without any notice, they came to demolish.

we built a station in orile and when we built it my immediate boss who is a guy who thinks he is smarter than he is insisted on putting temporary structures in the right of way/setback because we had space constraints. one year later they came for us and we had to take it all down.

this is the thing. the construction approval process is often slow and tedious and there is the temptation to fast track. the problem is that after fast tracking everyone goes to sleep and does not complete the documents. so when there is a change of guard or a sudden enforcement drive, there will be trouble.

hopefulLandlord:
They lack courage to intercept drones? Also how do you mean "attacking"? Are you saying Russia sends drones with the intention of detonating it in NATO territory?

Did Iran send drones to attack France, Jordan, UK, US? did Iran violate their airspace before they shot down Iranian drones and missiles heading to Israel?? Yet some of these NATO countries shot down Iranian drones through their military base in Jordan, Syria, Eastern Mediterranean. The same clowns can't even shot down Russian drones/missiles that attacked her territory/airspace.

Odogwu maley
If you work hard you ball hard 😂😂
https://www.nairaland.com/8208195/dauda-lawal-zamfara-governors-new

iamoyindamola:
Odogwu maley
If you work hard you ball hard 😂😂
https://www.nairaland.com/8208195/dauda-lawal-zamfara-governors-new

[color=royalblue]He is buying it for the state

He won't take it when he leaves office [/color]

GloriousGbola:
it has happened to me repeatedly in my professional life.

lagos state has never demolished any of our structure without prior notice.

the process is always teh same - contravention notice, second notice , final warning, demolition notice.

today they take the picture and time stamp it so no one can claim it was not done.

we had a situation where we were told our facility would be demolished for road related works. they dropped the demolition notice, and then went to sleep for six months. we actually were thinking maybe we should not have exited as quickly as we did. then one morning, out of the blue without any notice, they came to demolish.

we built a station in orile and when we built it my immediate boss who is a guy who thinks he is smarter than he is insisted on putting temporary structures in the right of way/setback because we had space constraints. one year later they came for us and we had to take it all down.

this is the thing. the construction approval process is often slow and tedious and there is the temptation to fast track. the problem is that after fast tracking everyone goes to sleep and does not complete the documents. so when there is a change of guard or a sudden enforcement drive, there will be trouble.

Baba all this one u are saying is because the properties demolished are those of ur clients and not urs directly. God forbid, the day a loved one or ur direct property is affected; u won't care whether it is APC , LP or PDP government that demolished it. You will voice your displeasure loud and clear.

I understand that man's pains; he lost a N150m worth of investment and according to his twitter thread, over 50 direct staff will be out of job. On his twitter thread , the man claimed he has C of O and every necessary title documents and approval. If FCT housing authority can take his property down, what makes u think some people who were LASBCA victims in Lagos were not in same shoes while he was praising LASBCA.

The lesson in all of this is : DON'T MOCK A PAIN YOU HAVEN'T ENDURED.

iamoyindamola:
Odogwu maley
If you work hard you ball hard 😂😂
https://www.nairaland.com/8208195/dauda-lawal-zamfara-governors-new

that may be kickbacks from bandits and miners

BlueRayDick:
Baba all this one u are saying is because the properties demolished are those of ur clients and not urs directly. God forbid, the day a loved one or ur direct property is affected; u won't care whether it is APC , LP or PDP government that demolished it. You will voice your displeasure and loud and clear.

I understand that man's pains; he lost a N150m worth if investment and according to his twitter thread, over 50 direct staff will be out of job. On his twitter thread , the man claimed he has C of O and every necessary title documents and approval. If FCT housing authority can take his property down, what makes u think some people who were LASBCA victims in Lagos were not in same shoes while he was praising LASBCA.

The lesson in all of this is : DON'T MOCK A PAIN YOU HAVEN'T ENDURED.

[color=royalblue]They will soon come and tell him the documents are fake or illegal.

You will think all the people building in Lagos, and getting their properties demolished are foolish, until e reach your turn

Wike go soon respond. And he will be surprised with what he hears[/color]

HurricaneLanter:
Did Iran send drones to attack France, Jordan, UK, US? did Iran violate their airspace before they shot down Iranian drones and missiles heading to Israel?? Yet some of these NATO countries shot down Iranian drones through their military base in Jordan, Syria, Eastern Mediterranean. The same clowns can't even shot down Russian drones/missiles that attacked her territory/airspace.

The whole Iran drone attack on Israel was telegraphed and planned with USA and it's allies though including even Israel. It was all symbolic.

Also you refused to answer what you mean by "Russian drones have been attacking NATO territory". Are you saying those drones were sent by Russia with the intent to detonate it on a NATO territory?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]They will soon come and tell him the documents are fake or illegal.

You will think all the people building in Lagos, and getting their properties demolished are foolish, until e reach your turn

Wike go soon respond. And he will be surprised with what he hears[/color]

Anyhowness and wickedness in governance is a common denominator across the country. That Lagos' governance is marginally better than what obtains in most parts of the country doesn't make its employees any less wicked or needlessly destructive than the employees in other states of the country.

Nigerian's hardly associate empathy and foresight with governance...it always has to be loud, destructive, punitive and after the fact. It's why we have people like Oshiomhole telling widows to "Go and Die", military brutality normalized, and APC existing.

hopefulLandlord:
The whole Iran drone attack on Israel was telegraphed and planned with USA and it's allies though including even Israel. It was all symbolic.

Also you refused to answer what you mean by "Russian drones have been attacking NATO territory". Are you saying those drones were sent by Russia with the intent to detonate it on a NATO territory?

Then let NATO telegraph their aerial defense to intercept Russian drones attacking NATO member states too

izzou:
[color=royalblue]He is buying it for the state

He won't take it when he leaves office [/color]

Of course he will document it when he's leaving 😁

GloriousGbola:
that may be kickbacks from bandits and miners

Like Wiz khalifa say work hard play hard

FCTA won't demolish without prior notice, some owners do connive with crooked staff to contravene the Abuja Master plan and think they can get away with it.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]They will soon come and tell him the documents are fake or illegal.

You will think all the people building in Lagos, and getting their properties demolished are foolish, until e reach your turn

Wike go soon respond. And he will be surprised with what he hears[/color]

Baba a lot of injustice has happened in this country. I'm sure when Maroko was being demolished , we had people who supported the government in power that they were taking the right steps. Just see below the excerpts of the shege victims faced back then:

Eleven years old Bose Atie, a primary five student of Kuramo Primary School, Victoria Island, had walls fell on her at her father’s house located on 20, Seriki Street, Maroko, during the demolition and died instantly. The father J.O. Atie now lives sorrowfully in his block 347 flat 2, Ilasan Housing Estate.

Seventy years old Chief Anitini (aka California), the owner of the popular California Cinema, California Hotel and California Bakery, who also owned other 17 buildings including the building that housed the branch of Cooperative Bank, all in the then Maroko, having suffered physical beating with butts of guns by soldiers, died weeks later.
Tragically, Alhaji Akasholojuro of 14 Buraimoh Street, Maroko, had his wife Awawu, and the children drowned in the Five Cowries Lagoon while trying to ferry their salvaged properties across to Ikoyi waterside.

Folakemi Agogo, a widow, lost two of her sons, Olugbenga, 18 and David 8 during the struggle to get alternative accommodation.
Most of the displaced people of Maroko were stranded in open places after the forceful eviction in July 1990. More agonising for the Maroko people was that the time of the demolition was in mid July; which means there was heavy rain coupled with the coastal winds associated with such areas. Days after the demolition, the residents were spilled all over the villages in Lagos and in neighbouring Ogun state. Some moved to church yards and under the bridges. Treasured monuments such as: pictures at infancy, marriage albums, college certificates, pictures and similar records were lost as a result.

Guess what ? The same Lagos government that justified why it had to demolish maroko later admitted in court the demolition was done in error.

Investigation shows that the Lagos state High Court had also admitted in 1991 that the demolition of Maroko was done in error. There was an injunction by the Lagos Appeal Court that the Lagos state government should leave the vacated Maroko land untouched till the matter is finally determined but the judgment was not obeyed by both the Lagos state government and the other gladiators in the Maroko tussle.

Also, at the Supreme Court, Abuja, in the year 2002, the then Lagos state Commissioner for Justice, Professor Yemi Osinbajo, now Vice President of Nigeria, admitted that though, government acquired Maroko town in 1972, it again relinquished the acquisition in 1977; thereby confirming that Maroko was not under government acquisition when it was demolished in 1990.

The Lagos state government subsequently accepted responsibility through Yemi Osinbajo and promised the evictees 1,000 housing units every year, till the whole former house-owners of Maroko are fully resettled. This promise was also yet to be implemented as at the time of this research.

When I see people fixated on defending government actions at all cost, I just shake my head.

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