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| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 10:29am On Sep 09, 2024 |
LDaVinci:My friend, if you don't know why they have been chasing these people since 1945 in the north just keep quiet. Go and ask why western Cameroun people had to say about those of them that settled in their midst . The very reason the FG decided to move the capital to a then virgin land Abuja was because they knew that Lagos has a rich history and cultural heritage that won't be sacrificed on the alter of one Nigeria . Besides, the only known capital wasn't the state itself but an exclusive zone in Lagos Island. Learn before you spew trash . |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by Zionmdde: 10:34am On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:Another bunch of gibberish, the nigga is now dragging SS. When rather the president have commissioned a project that will link SE gas straight to SW. Hope indeed? One will think SE are suffering most in Nigeria today. Ipob and Biafra are not the same. And yes I believe in the division of the country instead of things to keep going the way they are. As for tribal bigots, they are all wasted sperms. Idiots whose useless lives shouldn't have existed in the first place |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 10:36am On Sep 09, 2024 |
Zionmdde:Rants of an IPOB ant. It's not up to you to decide on this your Biafra. We will tell you when or how you will get your Biafra. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by gidgiddy: 10:41am On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:You wonder why this individual still wants one Nigeria and still comes with reasons every day why Nigeria is a failed country We have no business being together inside the British colony called Nigeria We should have held referendum years ago, and everyone can go their way Instead, we are still trying to uphold the long failed British colony called Nigeria that will take nobody no where |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by LDaVinci: 10:45am On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:I havent insulted you, so I dont see why you should be rude to me. There is rich cultural heritage everywhere in Nigeria, its ridiculous to say that is the reason the capital was moved. The capital was moved on account of congestion and also for security reasons. The weight of the presence of the FG on Lagos which was also the commercial nerve centre was too much. If the FG had remained here, this town would have been unlivable in by now. Talking about the Igbo, they are not the only people with issues in Nigeria. Almost all Nigerian tribes have issues - even minorities. You need to see the rivalry between the Tiv and Idoma or between the Urhobo and Itsekiri. So its everywhere my brother. Dont demonise the Igbo unnecessarily. Afterall they fought a war to leave Nigeria and Nigeria refused to let them go. So what do you want? You dont what them to go, and you dont want them to stay. What other option than to eliminate them all in a holocaust. Is that what you want? |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by Zionmdde: 10:47am On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:Lol you must really have so much power from under oshodi bridge. So that's how you walk around thinking you have any say in other people's affairs? Thoughts of a wasted sperm. Foolishness elevated. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 10:48am On Sep 09, 2024 |
gidgiddy:You of all people know that if there is anything we have in common is that your Biafra comes to fruition . The only thing we disagree about is where your Biafra starts and ends. So don't tag me as one of your Zikist one Nigerianists. If you are looking for the most committed Nigerianists under the current Zikists template , then look at your nearest fellow Ibo man. Both of us know that the greatest obstacle to your useless Biafra isn't the other nationalities in Nigeria but your own kith and kin. The only way you can get them onboard your Biafra train is when you guarrantee them that you will annex the SS into your rogue nation. We both know Biafra died the minute the SS was liberated from your clutches. We also know that there were more Sabos within ojukwu's war cabinet and among the civilians working in the background to negotiate a return back to Nigeria after the SS was liberated. Your Biafra is not an independence movement but a racist tribal expansionist project to occupy and displace the people of the SS from their lands. This is your ambitions and nothing else as this was the same action taken by your Ojukwu on the hapless civilians of minority origins trapped in your cannibalistic hellscape known as Biafra . |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by paxonel(op): 10:51am On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:Anyway, cessationism are usually products of long term injustice perpetrated by the ruling class to the cessationist group, it happens world-wide. We have 3 major tribes here Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo. For over 60 years now, the Igbos have been excluded from producing a president from their region that's why you see cessationists like Nnamdi Kanu and Ipob, though their activities are not constitutional. For this reason, it is expedient for the ruling class to map out a comprehensive power rotation plan which is inclusive of the Igbo region that must be followed by all political parties. I think this isn't difficult to do if we truly want a one nation that is free of political cessationism |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by etrouble: 10:54am On Sep 09, 2024 |
paxonel:Whatever you just started smoking, stop it before it stops you. Kaduna Emeka Ezeogwu killed Yoruba, Hausa, Fulani and Kanuri leaders while he told Nnamdi Azikiwe to hide abroad. Obafemi Awolowo was in the prison then, and he escaped the blood sucking vagabond and his group. He was an Igbo Thereafter, Aguyi Ironsi abolished the Regional Governments. He was also an Igbo The above two offences are unpardonable. Generations yet unborn will continue to pay for it. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 10:59am On Sep 09, 2024 |
paxonel:You are spewing trash. Is it the right of any nationality or tribe to rule Nigeria ? Did the Ibos not have the earliest opportunity via both civilian democracy and later their Ibo quasi military dictatorship that messed things up ? You are championing Ibo right to power as if there is a line of succession to power based on ethnicity. If so, what of the Efik, the Igala, the Binis, the Jukums and other 360 ethnicities in Nigeria ? Are they lesser than the Ibo in Nigeria that the Ibo man has to cut in line ? What even made you assume that power must follow an ethnic train ? Are we not practicing democracy ? You are here using ethnicity to demand power rotation to Ibos and when others vote their own, you gasslight them as tribalists ? You no get one kobo sense for head. Nigerians do not owe the Ibo man anything. If at all, they were lucky not to have paid severe war reparations and also have their war criminals tried and hung for their war crimes. Stop defending Ibo ethnic bigotry and hypocrisy. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 11:02am On Sep 09, 2024 |
Zionmdde:Obi will never ever be President . Lolz Frustrated IPOB bigotted tribal hypocrite. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by SmartyPants(m): 11:04am On Sep 09, 2024 |
MEEVEET:My brother don't lie. The average Igbo male in particular and some of the women, who grew up in Igboland and have not travelled much, detests anything and anyone from the SW, North, Edo, and Ebonyi. Don't lie. Some of us have travelled so we know. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by Zionmdde: 11:06am On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:Lol Tinubu government favors me more personally. So he has my vote. Types another thing. Find any of my comment in support of ipob, you get 5k to buy rope and do the world a favour and reduce the number of useless idiots roaming about |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 11:09am On Sep 09, 2024 |
Zionmdde:Sharap. You suffering 0hu hustling in one dingy market for your Oga and still having his freedom deferred. Enjoy my ass and nah Una complain pass. Find hot stove and sit on it. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by Zionmdde: 11:16am On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:Whatever, I will still vote tinubu Wasted useless bigots. You can keep your hates going, who cares |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by MEEVEET: 11:18am On Sep 09, 2024 |
SmartyPants:And some yorubas who don't travel love igbos abi? Igbos have higher percentage of people that travel to other part of Nigeria so what your point? When your mother tell u these lies research before u speak Ebonyi? Are you serious now? Ebonyi that was created recently? Lmaooo |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by paxonel(op): 11:19am On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:ok,can a rotation be made that will involve atleast the six major Geo -political zones? I think that will be far more better than just the Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba ![]() Because me self, I'm not igbo or Hausa or yoruba and i need power too ![]() |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 11:27am On Sep 09, 2024 |
paxonel:The question you should ask yourself is why are the Ibos now suddenly so desperate for power? All of them are in unison on this agenda just as they also bound together in their expansionst quest aka Biafra . The Ibo man has kept telling you that for true reconciliation from the civil war they must be given power. These are a people who refuse any wrongdoing and deny vehmently in the face of raw evidence the atrocities they committed on minority people . You will expect they will do the honourable thing and apologise sincerely to Nigerians , the victims of their senseless coup and the hundreds of communities in the SS that their Biafra war criminals sacked during the war. No. Instead they went to town crying victim and blaming everyone else. And now they have come to demand from you the power to rule you and you are foolishly considering their useless demands ? Nigeria does not owe the Ibo man anything more than Nigeria owes any other nationality. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by SmartyPants(m): 11:34am On Sep 09, 2024 |
MEEVEET:Well we started on a fairly civil note but look at how quickly you displayed your trademark lack of refinement, and generally offensive approach to discourse. You should be ashamed if you had any shame at all. That is your business though. Moving on: Your claim was that Igbos don't hate anyone but I just showed you four groups the average untravelled Igboman hates naturally. You don't have to offend him for him to hate you on sight. The only other major tribe with such an outlook are the Fulanis. Secondly, mentioned SW, North, Edo, and Ebonyi, but you fixated on Yorubas. Why? Is it that in your limited way of thinking, you've concluded that I'm Yoruba? Funny! Mind you, I never said Yorubas are not tribalistic either, or that there are no Yorubas who hate igbos but my view is that those Yorubas started to do so generally as a response to Igbo hate. Long before the internet was invented, I was already hearing things like "Yorubas are dirty" as a child. That was my introduction to tribalism in Nigeria. And when you check the historical records, you can see that as far back as the 60s Nnamdi Azikiwe aspired to be Premier of the Western Region and almost succeeded, after helping to install Sir Michael Opara as Premier of the Eastern region! Is it characteristic of a hateful people to have given him that much room, although eventually he was scuppered? Let me tell you the truth: of all the major tribes, Yorubas are by far the least tribalistic. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 11:44am On Sep 09, 2024 |
SmartyPants:To add to that, Lagos state has so many Ibos in employment in their civil service. Lagos also has appointed Ibos as commissioners and heads of their ministries. Has any Ibo state ever given outsiders the opportunity to work in their civil service talk more of getting political appointment? Remind that cretin of how Obi pioneered sacking of non Anambra indigenes from the Anambra civil service which was immediately met by reciprocation from both Abia and Enugu state . Mind you most of those sacked by Obi on the flimsy excuse that they are not indigenes of Anambra state were mostly from sister Ibo states with some having served for up to 25ys and more. This is the charlatan that they said was the messiah. Only a fool will take any accusation of tribalism by an Ibo man seriously. As for me , I wear my tribalism shirt anytime I am around them to let them know long before hand who they are dealing with. Looking back you can't just go and watch that old BBC interview of the Sarduna on the Ibos. The man was 110% right and he proved this with them killing him. So in conclusion, just know that whatever these people accuse you of , know they are a thousand times more guilty of it. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by gidgiddy: 12:22pm On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:This one keeps talking about South South to deflect from the bigger issue that Nigeria does not work. We should not be together, we have no business being together. The Biafran agitator is not dragging anyone's land, that's why he is talking about referendum, where ethnic groups forced together into the British colony called Nigeria, can decide their fate. If you people are so worried about SS, support a referendum in the SE. When the SE leaves, you all can continue with SS But the one Nigerianists cannot support referendum so that his failed unworkable Nigeria can continue forever |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 12:34pm On Sep 09, 2024 |
gidgiddy:Of late your rants here have shifted from granting Biafra to notably calling for Nigeria's total disolution. I pondered on why this shift from a known IPOB clown like yourself and then it came to me that you will prefer a total balkanized Nigeria so that you can begin your putsch to annex the SS . This is because a divided and broken Nigeria will have no justification to come to the help of the SS people . You will fail woefully and be banished forever in your landlocked Biafra enclave. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by IGBOPROMISE1: 12:43pm On Sep 09, 2024 |
illicit:You still don't get it owing to your preconceived tribalistic mindset! It's not a question of who made or didn't make mistakes, but when you dwell on past mistakes of decades ago....done by those long since dead, to 'justify' your present bigotry, hatred and misplaced sense of entitlement, then YOU are part of the problem! |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 12:59pm On Sep 09, 2024 |
IGBOPROMISE1:And your revisionists that have been revisiting the events leading to the coup and war and twisting shit while gasslighting others were doing what ? Let sleeping dogs lie but you went to kick it to wake up and are now complaining. Do you expect everyone to be silent and swallow your lies without countering it? Typical 0koro that will start shit he can't finish. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by IGBOPROMISE1: 1:17pm On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:Your fear of a disintergrated 'one Nigeria' comes from a position of weakness and a parasitic feeling that you can't live on your own and govern yourself independently! Bros Gidgiddy is spot on! Anyone with a feeling for humanity and the welfare of others....and not just his ethnicity, will not wish Nigeria on anyone! FULL STOP! Why TF would anyone want ethnicities in the middle-belt, currently facing the existential threat of annihilation owing to the pogrom and land-grabbing being visited on them, continue in their suffering while the Igbo or Biafra get their freedom!? I know you're either Yoruba or Fulani (correct me if i'm wrong), and a dyed-in-the-wool and unrepentant 'one Nigerianist', so it comes as no surprise that you would not only want its continued tortured existence, but would also want the political-economy and structure currently in place to remain unchanged! Your ilk have captured the Nigerian state from 2015 to date, and you have done NOTHING to truly restructure the polity to reflect the TRUE fiscal federalism that is the only slim chance Nigeria has for survival....you've done NOTHING besides blow useless grammar and feign interest and intent on the subject! On the day Biafra/Igbo gain their freedom from the hell-hole that is 'one Nigeria', can you tell us how you feel Ndigbo will go about 'annexing' the so called 'south-south'!? We're talking about a people who have lived side-by-side with the Ogoni, Ijaw, Efik/Ibibio/Annang for centuries without ever attempting to 'annex' their territories in the name of 'empire' or whatever, so what makes you think Ndigbo after all these past centuries will now wake up one morning and have a thirst for 'territorial expansion'!? Amongst the three major ethnicities, who are those known for having 'empires' and 'caliphates' and went on campaigns of conquest!? Ndigbo have oyel, gas, access to the sea and a formidable human resource base, so why TF should we be looking to 'annex' our neighbours land!? |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 1:21pm On Sep 09, 2024 |
IGBOPROMISE1:Your foolishness began when you assumed from the begining that I am not from the SS by labelling me parasitic. We know the real parasites that contribute nothing but vice and it's you guys. To fools like you every SS opinion against Biafra is coming from an impostor . Can you tell me what joins the SS with you guys ? Face your Biafra and leave SS out of your madness. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by IGBOPROMISE1: 1:28pm On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:How has any Igbo 'revised' events leading up to the Nzeogwu-led coup and subsequent ones!? Isn't it you vile and bigoted lot that have constantly been banging on about why 'no Igbo will ever be president of Nigeria' and why 'denying Ndigbo any commensurate federal presence is justifed' all in a failed bid to 'justify' your hatred, greed and emilokan/jihadist lust for power!? |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 1:30pm On Sep 09, 2024 |
IGBOPROMISE1:What of the pogroms carried out by biafran soldiers and Ibo civilians alike on SS people during the war? Is that also a lie ? |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by IGBOPROMISE1: 1:33pm On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:Why wouldn't i assume when you constantly dodge telling us where you're from!? I'm a proud Igbo man from Ndoni in Rivers state, and i declare as much with my full chest! But with you, trying to extract your ethnic identity is like trying to look for a virgin in a brothel! Like i said, Ndigbo have oyel, gas, human resources and access to the sea, so why would we want to continue sharing the same country with evil schmucks like you!? |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by IGBOPROMISE1: 1:46pm On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:Dude, you see, YOU are the one engaging in revisionism here! What 'pogroms' did Biafran soldiers and 'Ibo' civilians carry out on south-south during the war!? When were such reported and by whom!? If you want i can produce reports OF THE TIME by foreigners and foreign press that spoke of the pogrom, war crimes. depravity and criminality of the evil hegemonic Nigerian state and northerners against the people of the Eastern region in general and the Igbo in particular! As we speak, the Nigerian state is still despoiling and exploiting the land and resources of the 'SS' that you claim to love and care for and carrying out state-sanctioned murders against them, but your own preoccupation is to try and divert attention away from this to blaming the Igbo for all Nigeria and 'SS' woes! |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by AntiMarxist: 1:54pm On Sep 09, 2024 |
IGBOPROMISE1:Of course you will deny it. What led to the abandoned property saga in places like PH and Calabar ? Go and read the harrowing accounts documented by SS people during the occupation of their lands by biafran orcs. Go and research why there where more minority people joining the federal forces than your ethnic militia . Go and find out from riverine communities in Rivers who till this very day hold yearly Thanksgiving ceremonies coincident to the day of federal forces chasing your orcs out of their land. Go and research on "win the war meat'. Go and find out about the underground civilian militia that terrorised your occupying forces in Midwestern region. Your days of claiming victim are over I will continue to expose all your war criminals and the atrocities they committed on hapless SS minority people Senseless killings, pogroms , rape ,sodomy , pillaging and out right theft was committed not only by your biafran invading force but also civilians alike on hapless Minorities whom you claimed you came to liberate from Fulani jihadists . You are not in any way victims but the arch villains in the sad story called Nigeria. |
| Re: What Were The Offence Of Igbo, That Ironsi Did What? by paxonel(op): 2:46pm On Sep 09, 2024 |
AntiMarxist:I don't get what you are saying. Desperate for power like how? All of them are in unison on this agenda just as they also bound together in their expansionst quest aka Biafra .No! You are wrong on this, don't generalize. Yes, it is true that many of them are still influenced by Nnamdi kanu and ipob to believe in cessationism, but most of the educated igbos that i know, especially the ones living here in the west, do believe in Nigeria The Ibo man has kept telling you that for true reconciliation from the civil war they must be given power.That is the truth, as much they they are one the 3 major tribes. I don't think this is desperation. It is their right, just like the minority tribes like ijaw, Ndoma, Urhobo, Efik, Tiv, itsekiri, tiv, are also entitled to the presidency by right, not just the Hausa and Yoruba only These are a people who refuse any wrongdoingwhat do you mean by wrong doing? Which tribe in Nigeria did not do wrong? If you want to talk about cessationism as wrong doing Sunday Iboho is there o, not just only Nnamdi kanu. As a matter of fact, there are hundreds of bandits in the north who are fighting the state causing insecurity, is that one not wrong doing too? and deny vehmently in the face of raw evidence the atrocities they committed on minority people .hmmm! I bow for you o ![]() You will expect they will do the honourable thing and apologise sincerely to Nigerians , the victims of their senseless coup and the hundreds of communities in the SS that their Biafra war criminals sacked during the warWe are talking about reconciliation and a new Nigeria all inclusive you still talking about the past requesting apology from people who were not there during the civil and the coup you are talking about, are you that dumb? ![]() No. Instead they went to town crying victim and blaming everyone else.[/,quote]Blame everyone else of what?you are stupid enemy of Nigeria! I will advice you, go back to cotonou where you came from. You are trying to bring disunty among the tribes here Nigeria does not owe the Ibo man anything more than Nigeria owes any other nationality.who saying Nigeria owes anyone anything. Every tribe irrespective of their region are entitled to Nigeria and that is what the political class should work to achieve in order to maintain unity. there is nothing you can do about it. Foolish man |
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